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Title: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: pearljammer10 on December 05, 2012, 08:46:07 AM
A couple different reports coming off Yahoo. One saying N.O. was changing there name to the Pelicans?!

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The New Orleans Hornets are expected to change their nickname to the Pelicans as early as the 2013-14 season, numerous sources told Yahoo! Sports. The Hornets planned to change their nickname since Tom Benson, owner of the New Orleans Saints, purchased the team on April 14. Benson also owns the rights to the nickname Pelicans. Yahoo! Sports

One saying not so much.

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New Orleans Hornets spokesman Greg Bensel denied a Yahoo! Sports report that owner Tom Benson has finalized plans to change the nickname of his NBA franchise from the Hornets to Pelicans. "We’re not confirming that is the name,’’ Bensel said. "This is a process that’s ongoing and still in discussions. And it will be eventually decided by the NBA.’’ New Orleans Times-Picayune


So what do you think? Are you yay on Pelicans? If not whats the best name change for New Orleans... To me it really should be the New Orleans Jazz and make Utah change their name
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: Fafnir on December 05, 2012, 08:49:41 AM
Both of your quotes say the same thing.

Pelicans are fine, it'll be weird for a few years but then everyone will just get used to it. Bobcats/Thunder both became completely normal after all.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: Snakehead on December 05, 2012, 09:23:34 AM
Both of your quotes say the same thing.

Pelicans are fine, it'll be weird for a few years but then everyone will just get used to it. Bobcats/Thunder both became completely normal after all.

I think this is a bad team name.

Bobcats and Thunder are both fine team names but the logos/colors are my issue.  The Thunder in particular look like a created team in an NBA video game.

Pelicans is just awful though.

Really too bad they can't just be the Jazz.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: scaryjerry on December 05, 2012, 09:35:39 AM
Embarrassing...save that name for a rec league team in surburbia :P just awful
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: pearljammer10 on December 05, 2012, 09:54:15 AM
Both of your quotes say the same thing.

Pelicans are fine, it'll be weird for a few years but then everyone will just get used to it. Bobcats/Thunder both became completely normal after all.

Whoops, thanks! fixed.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: Moranis on December 05, 2012, 09:55:35 AM
a little more detail, though mostly rehashes of other articles

http://nba.si.com/2012/12/04/new-orleans-pelicans-hornets-name-change-tom-benson/?sct=hp_t2_a16&eref=sihp (http://nba.si.com/2012/12/04/new-orleans-pelicans-hornets-name-change-tom-benson/?sct=hp_t2_a16&eref=sihp)

Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: pearljammer10 on December 05, 2012, 09:55:47 AM
Both of your quotes say the same thing.

Pelicans are fine, it'll be weird for a few years but then everyone will just get used to it. Bobcats/Thunder both became completely normal after all.

I think this is a bad team name.

Bobcats and Thunder are both fine team names but the logos/colors are my issue.  The Thunder in particular look like a created team in an NBA video game.

Pelicans is just awful though.

Really too bad they can't just be the Jazz.

Yeah I have a lot of trouble with the bobcats logo and color. It just looks amatureish.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: Birdman on December 05, 2012, 10:49:08 AM
Hate the name but doubt if they be there for long anyways
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: Jeff on December 05, 2012, 11:10:26 AM
I actually like the name a lot. 
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: fairweatherfan on December 05, 2012, 11:33:38 AM
(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9397/pelicanra3.jpg)

Gotta problem with that?!?
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: lightspeed5 on December 05, 2012, 11:36:58 AM
I honestly dont get the hate. Its really not that bad of a name. Remember all the hate about the thunder when that name was revealed? now what? its seen as just another team in the NBA.

I think its  a cool name. They could make the mascot an evil pelican which is something that is hard to depict but interesting to see.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: fairweatherfan on December 05, 2012, 11:48:33 AM
I honestly dont get the hate. Its really not that bad of a name. Remember all the hate about the thunder when that name was revealed? now what? its seen as just another team in the NBA.

I remember people griping about the Heat and Magic when they entered the league. 

In a league with teams named after weather, boats, horseriding tools, bodies of water, and old-timey pants, I don't think Pelicans will stand out for long.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: dark_lord on December 05, 2012, 12:17:32 PM
pelicans is a terrible name, lol.  sounds like a generic team name from nintendo's double dribble  ;D
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: pearljammer10 on December 05, 2012, 12:30:53 PM
If i was in charge id call them the New Orleans Big Easy.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: Lucky17 on December 05, 2012, 12:31:04 PM
Can't even give them points for originality:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans_Pelicans

I think I would have preferred the New Orleans Brass.

Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: pearljammer10 on December 05, 2012, 12:36:40 PM
Can't even give them points for originality:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans_Pelicans

I think I would have preferred the New Orleans Brass.

Busted!
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: wdleehi on December 05, 2012, 12:44:11 PM
So for the team logo, do they change the beak in a basket?
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: Lucky17 on December 05, 2012, 12:49:53 PM
So for the team logo, do they change the beak in a basket?

Don't know, but it sounds like a ready-made promotional opportunity for Popeye's as the corporate sponsor.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: ScottHow on December 05, 2012, 01:15:24 PM
Officially my second favorite team, lol
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: MBunge on December 05, 2012, 01:54:49 PM
The New Orleans Hex.

Mike
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: Lucky17 on December 05, 2012, 02:03:50 PM
The New Orleans Hex.

Mike

Nice. Plays up the Voodoo connection (name already taken by the AFL franchise there).

Having read up a bit more on the cultural significance of the term "Krewe," I've moved that to the top of my list.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/52175/can-you-handle-the-pelicans
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: wdleehi on December 05, 2012, 02:41:13 PM
New Orleans Basketbeads tossers? 


Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: Snakehead on December 05, 2012, 02:50:35 PM
The logo has to be a pelican with a basketball in his huge beak like a big 'ol fish.

I really don't have an issue with any NBA team name but I think this is bad. As I said logos and colors are another story.

The New Orleans Hex.

Mike

Nice. Plays up the Voodoo connection (name already taken by the AFL franchise there).

Having read up a bit more on the cultural significance of the term "Krewe," I've moved that to the top of my list.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/52175/can-you-handle-the-pelicans


It had a ring to it anyways but with that history, yes that's a great choice. 

I hope they at least use the old Jazz purple/yellow scheme here.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: Neurotic Guy on December 05, 2012, 03:28:43 PM
A couple different reports coming off Yahoo. One saying N.O. was changing there name to the Pelicans?!

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The New Orleans Hornets are expected to change their nickname to the Pelicans as early as the 2013-14 season, numerous sources told Yahoo! Sports. The Hornets planned to change their nickname since Tom Benson, owner of the New Orleans Saints, purchased the team on April 14. Benson also owns the rights to the nickname Pelicans. Yahoo! Sports

One saying not so much.

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New Orleans Hornets spokesman Greg Bensel denied a Yahoo! Sports report that owner Tom Benson has finalized plans to change the nickname of his NBA franchise from the Hornets to Pelicans. "We’re not confirming that is the name,’’ Bensel said. "This is a process that’s ongoing and still in discussions. And it will be eventually decided by the NBA.’’ New Orleans Times-Picayune


So what do you think? Are you yay on Pelicans? If not whats the best name change for New Orleans... To me it really should be the New Orleans Jazz and make Utah change their name

Yeah, I would think Utah would feel awkward or embarrassed about that.    Armstrong, Davis, Coltrane, Gilespie, Ellington Holiday -- they all make you think Utah.   

While we're on the subject, the LA Lakers is just as absurd as the Utah Jazz.
 
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: LarBrd33 on December 05, 2012, 04:01:03 PM
Hate the name but doubt if they be there for long anyways
I think the name's fine.  That team has a chance to be pretty good.  Anthony Davis is the real deal... he could have a Duncan-like career.  I even think if he and Gordon get back soon enough from their injuries, it's not unthinkable that they could inch towards the playoff race.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: D.o.s. on December 05, 2012, 04:02:49 PM
But both the Utah Jazz and the LA Lakers have become big enough to transcend the words. When I think of the phrase "Utah Jazz" I don't think of Mormons or Music, I think of Stockton and Malone. Likewise with the Lakers--I don't think lakes, I see Shaq, Kobe, Magic, Worthy, Kareem, etc.


Also I'm pretty sure the Hornets are staying in that arena for another decade, on paper at least.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: LooseCannon on December 05, 2012, 04:07:47 PM
Should have called them the New Orleans Jambalaya, so that they could be referred to as the Jam or the Jammies, for short.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: Edgar on December 05, 2012, 04:26:07 PM
(http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=I.4512250506380740&pid=15.1)
or
(http://www.paperandco.com/1711-3492-thickbox/pelikan-griffix-wax-pen.jpg)
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: Redz on December 05, 2012, 05:00:03 PM
they could market a line of underwear "Pelican Briefs"
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: Mr Green on December 07, 2012, 12:53:20 AM
Pelicans is a great name, I really like it! Voodoo would have been a good name as well.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: ACF on December 07, 2012, 04:22:34 AM
I actually think it's a pretty good name. I mean, it has to do with the state bird of Louisiana. That's perfectly in sync with what other teams do when they pick or change their nicknames.

As long as they make a sharp-looking identity as far as unis and logos go, they should be okay. What they should not do is make a logo that's cartoonish, a la the Charlotte Hornets. I love that logo but I think it only worked in Charlotte. New Orleans should do a really simple classic logo. Let's hope they don't Thunder Up on us  ;D

They are also changing up the colors to navy, gold and red so they (the Bensons) have a great chance at creating a good business brand that could sell a lot over the years actually, and hopefully keep the Pelicans in New Orleans.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: PhoSita on December 07, 2012, 04:37:03 AM
I actually think it's a pretty good name. I mean, it has to do with the state bird of Louisiana. That's perfectly in sync with what other teams do when they pick or change their nicknames.

As long as they make a sharp-looking identity as far as unis and logos go, they should be okay. What they should not do is make a logo that's cartoonish, a la the Charlotte Hornets. I love that logo but I think it only worked in Charlotte. New Orleans should do a really simple classic logo. Let's hope they don't Thunder Up on us  ;D

They are also changing up the colors to navy, gold and red so they (the Bensons) have a great chance at creating a good business brand that could sell a lot over the years actually, and hopefully keep the Pelicans in New Orleans.

(http://bossip.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/pelicans.jpg?w=531&h=501)

Something like this (ignoring the color scheme) would be pretty solid.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: ACF on December 07, 2012, 04:47:06 AM
I hadn't actually seen that logo before you posted it. Here's a cleaner version:



(http://news.sportslogos.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/500x509xNew-Orleans-Pelicans-Logo-Concept.jpg.pagespeed.ic.wbB0zH7ZT5.jpg)



http://news.sportslogos.net/2012/12/05/source-claims-hornets-to-become-pelicans-in-2013-14/




It's kind of cool because it reminds me of this logo:

(http://www.remembertheaba.com/ABALogos/NewBucsLogo.gif)




But, but, but... Tom Benson will probably choose something completely different. We'll see. Just don't go OKC on us.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: ACF on December 07, 2012, 05:35:23 AM
Tom Benson will probably choose something completely different.


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sorry to mislead, gentleman, but the logo i posted is from Scott Greci at Guru Design in New Orleans. and like Goth pointed out, it won't be used because it's already out there and they would never pay the guy who made it.

it's some sweet action though. top-shelf work.

http://boards.sportslogos.net/topic/90153-new-orleans-hornets-to-become-pelicans%3B-could-charlotte-readopt-hornets-identity/page__st__140
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: ACF on December 07, 2012, 05:44:51 AM


https://www.facebook.com/gurudesign/info


Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: lightspeed5 on December 07, 2012, 02:34:18 PM
they need a cartoony pelican logo.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: 2short on December 07, 2012, 03:31:14 PM
I'm fine with Pelicans, logo looks good and there are a TON of pelicans there.
In a perfect world the new orleans jazz.  Utah salt lakers.  Minnesota Lakers.  Los Angeles eeh who cares
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: Cassidy122690 on December 07, 2012, 04:00:48 PM
Pardon the profanity in the title, but it's actually a pretty informative article which has caused me to warm up to the name a bit...

http://deadspin.com/5966336/Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.-you-pelicans-are-awesome-a-defense-of-the-nbas-best-new-team-name
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: crownsy on December 08, 2012, 12:09:28 PM
Im still not a fan, but this article is hilarious. It's in white because of vulgarity in the link...

http://deadspin.com/5966336/****-you-pelicans-are-awesome-a-defense-of-the-nbas-best-new-team-name?tag=new-orleans-pelicans

here's a sample of the article, had me laughing.

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It cruises above the water, its eyesight so good that it can see fish beneath the surface from 60 feet up. Then it spirals into a death dive, streaking down upon the unsuspecting prey before it knows what hit it. The last thing that fish ever sees is the light blinking out as the pelican's gaping beak closes around it, and it's swallowed—while still alive.

The pelican will eat as much as four pounds of fish per day, nearly half its body weight. Its bloodlust is insatiable. It wants to kill you and everyone you've ever cared about. Don't believe me? Here's a pelican eating baby ducklings. And because that's not cruel enough, it makes their mother watch.

They're so noble, they're pretty much deities. During times of famine, it was said, the mother pelican would draw her own blood to feed her young, and the early church quickly adopted the pelican as a symbol for the Christ. Do you see anyone worshipping a seahawk? You do not.

EDIT: and thats why you don't just hunt the thread and hit reply like a noob without checking for new posts. TP to you cassidy, and yes the article is highly recommended for hilarity :D
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: ACF on December 08, 2012, 12:21:22 PM
(http://nathistoc.bio.uci.edu/birds/pelecaniformes/Pelecanus%20occidentalis/Brown%20Pelican,%20flying%203.jpg)

Looks quite majestic, if you ask me. Also, these birds are pretty ferocious.

The more I think about it, I really feel New Orleans went in the right direction with the Pelicans name.

Just. Don't. Screw. Up. The. Logo.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: crownsy on December 08, 2012, 12:23:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=POTUVc5wD8I

notfor the faint of heart...im warming up to this name.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: crownontherocks on December 18, 2012, 09:30:49 PM
The NBA has filed trademarks for the New Orleans Pelicans, amongst four other potential nicknames on behalf of the New Orleans Hornets NBA Limited Partnership.

The Rougarou, Mosquitos, Swamp Dogs and Bullsharks are the other nicknames that have been filed for trademark.

A swamp dog is a Cajun nickname for an alligator, while Rougarou refers to a beast from Louisiana folklore.

New Orleans will likely adopt a red, blue and gold color scheme.

Via K.L. Chouinard/Behind The Buck Pass
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: TripleOT on December 19, 2012, 05:27:58 PM
They can play this video on the Jumbotron

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT7STlVX71A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT7STlVX71A)
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: ACF on December 30, 2012, 04:35:27 PM
Here's a concept someone did at SportslogosNet (New colors on the right.)


(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i210/skullcrusherjones/NO-Pelicans-II_zps1604b18e.png)




Here's another one by another dude:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c75/crosbykidd/Picture4-7_zpse982be02.png)




Aaaaand another one, by a different guy:

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y475/cjzilligen/fleurdepelican_zpseace6b95.jpg)



All talk about the intended Pelicans brand being a bad move is obsolete as of this post  ;D
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: pearljammer10 on December 30, 2012, 05:27:57 PM
Here's a concept someone did at SportslogosNet (New colors on the right.)


(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i210/skullcrusherjones/NO-Pelicans-II_zps1604b18e.png)




Here's another one by another dude:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c75/crosbykidd/Picture4-7_zpse982be02.png)




Aaaaand another one, by a different guy:

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y475/cjzilligen/fleurdepelican_zpseace6b95.jpg)



All talk about the intended Pelicans brand being a bad move is obsolete as of this post  ;D


Kinda dig that first one with the red not green. Well done by whomever.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: The4Time2Doctor0 on December 30, 2012, 06:51:29 PM
I'm sick of all this pelican bashing. its a noble bird. how much fish can you fit in your mouth? had it been a peacock, I'd feel a bit different. they are shiesty birds.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: lightspeed5 on December 30, 2012, 07:35:31 PM
I like the pelicans name. Im tired of every name having to be a deadly animal of some sort. its childish and boring. This is different and unique.
Title: Re: New Orleans....Pelicans?!?
Post by: crownontherocks on January 23, 2013, 11:55:13 AM
Hornets to announce new nickname of Pelicans, new logo tomorrow,source told Y! Sports.Pelicans is state bird, environmental symbol for state

Pelicans name and logo go used next season. Merchandise availability to be determined. Pelicans also old name of Nawlins minor league teams.

Marc spears twitter