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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: ianboyextreme on December 05, 2012, 01:43:59 AM
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http://www.csnne.com/pages/video?PID=uvXM2-D_X1_dNXn_UxU_2zib5JXhY8_zUYddkA Its kind of sad how they dont quite get the joke, instead trying to flip it to try to show how "immature" he is. Its also sad how Tanguay changes his stance on Rondo depending on which people hes around. High School is over dude, be a man.
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I think Mazz is generally a good guy, but I really can't help thinking that there's more than a little racism in Felger's passionate hating on NBA players and the sport in general. Tanguay is, as you say, just a narcissist who will do anything to get attention and approval.
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I think Mazz is generally a good guy, but I really can't help thinking that there's more than a little racism in Felger's passionate hating on NBA players and the sport in general. Tanguay is, as you say, just a narcissist who will do anything to get attention and approval.
Dude i honestly feel kind of the same way about felger. Theres a little undercurrent of anomosity towards black folks from him IMO.
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I think Mazz is generally a good guy, but I really can't help thinking that there's more than a little racism in Felger's passionate hating on NBA players and the sport in general. Tanguay is, as you say, just a narcissist who will do anything to get attention and approval.
Dude i honestly feel kind of the same way about felger. Theres a little undercurrent of anomosity towards black folks from him IMO.
My feeling is that when you hear guys like Felger talk about how the NBA is full of "entitled" and "spoiled" athletes who want everything their own way and how its such a "star driven league" and that's a bad thing, then they extol the virtues of the NHL where everybody is a "hard worker" and has "grit" and "character," it's hard not to see the code language of race at play.
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i knew i was going to be infuriated watching it yet i still watched it....
why did i watch it? :-[
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i knew i was going to be infuriated watching it yet i still watched it....
why did i watch it? :-[
It's like when I read Heat fan comments. Ignorant, half the time offensive and generally gets a rise out of me.
I guess it's also like when I have a scab. Can't help but pick at it but I know that it'll probably lead to some pain.
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ahh felger
anyone think their ratings go down as soon as he comes on?
i for one change the channel immediately, his only saving grace in my eyes would be that its an act for brewing up arguments and increasing ratings
hate him
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i knew i was going to be infuriated watching it yet i still watched it....
why did i watch it? :-[
It's like when I read Heat fan comments. Ignorant, half the time offensive and generally gets a rise out of me.
I guess it's also like when I have a scab. Can't help but pick at it but I know that it'll probably lead to some pain.
Perfect analogy. I know i will always get so p---ed off but sometimes i cant help myself.
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I just wish they would have people who dont hate the team theyre covering. Its one thing if they are not a fan but to be the exact opposite? Why? Also, they should have the anchors cover their own sports. Why should Andy Gresh ever utter a word about the Celtics?
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i knew i was going to be infuriated watching it yet i still watched it....
why did i watch it? :-[
lol tp
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I just wish they would have people who dont hate the team theyre covering. Its one thing if they are not a fan but to be the exact opposite? Why? Also, they should have the anchors cover their own sports. Why should Andy Gresh ever utter a word about the Celtics?
i don't need the local guys covering local sports to be total fanboys, but i certainly dont tune into 98.5 to listen to guys bagging on my favorite NBA team.
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You took the bait of two entertainers. Pay them no mind
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I think Mazz is generally a good guy, but I really can't help thinking that there's more than a little racism in Felger's passionate hating on NBA players and the sport in general. Tanguay is, as you say, just a narcissist who will do anything to get attention and approval.
Dude i honestly feel kind of the same way about felger. Theres a little undercurrent of anomosity towards black folks from him IMO.
My feeling is that when you hear guys like Felger talk about how the NBA is full of "entitled" and "spoiled" athletes who want everything their own way and how its such a "star driven league" and that's a bad thing, then they extol the virtues of the NHL where everybody is a "hard worker" and has "grit" and "character," it's hard not to see the code language of race at play.
I think you are taking it way overboard with these "race" comments. A lot of what he says about the NBA is true to.
Is there anyone in sports who act more entitled than the poster boys of the NBA Dwight Howard and Lebron James?
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Wow couldn't agree more....I am so annoyed and so intolerable to felger and his opinions on rondo and the celtics hes actually losing a fan and longtime listener to his radio station I'm going back to weei for my celtics..and you absolutely couldn't be any more right about tanguay....what a clown and tp for you!
Funny thing is they're more immature then rondo if you listened to them enough...
Sticking up for a teammate is not immature....rondo could cure cancer and they'd call him a fool
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I think Mazz is generally a good guy, but I really can't help thinking that there's more than a little racism in Felger's passionate hating on NBA players and the sport in general. Tanguay is, as you say, just a narcissist who will do anything to get attention and approval.
Dude i honestly feel kind of the same way about felger. Theres a little undercurrent of anomosity towards black folks from him IMO.
My feeling is that when you hear guys like Felger talk about how the NBA is full of "entitled" and "spoiled" athletes who want everything their own way and how its such a "star driven league" and that's a bad thing, then they extol the virtues of the NHL where everybody is a "hard worker" and has "grit" and "character," it's hard not to see the code language of race at play.
Or it could be that Felger grew up in Wisconsin and is a huge hockey and NHL fan and was never really exposed to the NBA and good basketball until he came to Boston at the end on the Bird era.
Some people just don't like the NBA.
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You took the bait of two entertainers. Pay them no mind
Exactly. This thread is why they have their jobs. Well, Felger anyways, Tanguay is an idiot who rides the coattails of competent shockjocks.
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Some people just don't like the NBA.
True, but its annoying when someone turns not liking a sport into a "values" judgment on its players.
Athletes across all sports are incredibly entitled, I think if you paint one as being "more" you're deluding yourself.
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Some people just don't like the NBA.
True, but its annoying when someone turns not liking a sport into a "values" judgment on its players.
Athletes across all sports are incredibly entitled, I think if you paint one as being "more" you're deluding yourself.
Extremely true. Still doesn't make his comments racist
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Some people just don't like the NBA.
True, but its annoying when someone turns not liking a sport into a "values" judgment on its players.
Athletes across all sports are incredibly entitled, I think if you paint one as being "more" you're deluding yourself.
Extremely true. Still doesn't make his comments racist
Explictly no, but I've heard similar statements from MLB/NHL fans about NFL/NBA often enough that it makes me less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. (not to mention the politcal world were "values" type coding is more prevelant)
But that's mostly because even I see him on a limited basis since I'm not in the Boston area he's an annoying talking head. I'll happily assume the worst about him, skip bayless, etc...
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Felger is a contrarian. The only reason he likes Hockey, is because the rest of the town ignored it. When the Bruins were actually playing well, suddenly he become the most critical person in the city AGAINST the B's, and was calling for Claude's head up until he was hoisting the cup.
When people start hating the C's, you will see him turn the other way on them too.
Its his schtick. It's not racism, its just going against what everyone else is saying, to make an entertaining argument.
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Felger is a contrarian. The only reason he likes Hockey, is because the rest of the town ignored it. When the Bruins were actually playing well, suddenly he become the most critical person in the city AGAINST the B's, and was calling for Claude's head up until he was hoisting the cup.
When people start hating the C's, you will see him turn the other way on them too.
Its his schtick. It's not racism, its just going against what everyone else is saying, to make an entertaining argument.
Well at least he doesn't have a national TV show where he talks about Tim Tebow 30 minutes a day then.
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Some people just don't like the NBA.
True, but its annoying when someone turns not liking a sport into a "values" judgment on its players.
Athletes across all sports are incredibly entitled, I think if you paint one as being "more" you're deluding yourself.
Extremely true. Still doesn't make his comments racist
Explictly no, but I've heard similar statements from MLB/NHL fans about NFL/NBA often enough that it makes me less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. (not to mention the politcal world were "values" type coding is more prevelant)
But that's mostly because even I see him on a limited basis since I'm not in the Boston area he's an annoying talking head. I'll happily assume the worst about him, skip bayless, etc...
The thing is though, Hockey players do carry themselves differently than other pro athletes in the US, on the whole. I actually think it is a Canadian thing. There are still plenty of Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. hockey players (and Felger bashes on them...like Ovechkin...all the time).
But the fact is, if you look at an interview with a pro basketball or football player, and then an interview with a pro hockey player, chances are, you are going to come away thinking the hockey player is more humble and polite. Its a cultural thing for the sport, or maybe where the majority of the athletes are from.
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Felger is a contrarian. The only reason he likes Hockey, is because the rest of the town ignored it. When the Bruins were actually playing well, suddenly he become the most critical person in the city AGAINST the B's, and was calling for Claude's head up until he was hoisting the cup.
When people start hating the C's, you will see him turn the other way on them too.
Its his schtick. It's not racism, its just going against what everyone else is saying, to make an entertaining argument.
Well at least he doesn't have a national TV show where he talks about Tim Tebow 30 minutes a day then.
Oh man, he LOVED Tebow. A guy with "intangibles" who everyone thought would fail? That's Felgers sweetspot.
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Some people just don't like the NBA.
True, but its annoying when someone turns not liking a sport into a "values" judgment on its players.
Athletes across all sports are incredibly entitled, I think if you paint one as being "more" you're deluding yourself.
Extremely true. Still doesn't make his comments racist
Explictly no, but I've heard similar statements from MLB/NHL fans about NFL/NBA often enough that it makes me less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. (not to mention the politcal world were "values" type coding is more prevelant)
But that's mostly because even I see him on a limited basis since I'm not in the Boston area he's an annoying talking head. I'll happily assume the worst about him, skip bayless, etc...
The thing is though, Hockey players do carry themselves differently than other pro athletes in the US, on the whole. I actually think it is a Canadian thing. There are still plenty of **** hockey players (and Felger bashes on them...like Ovechkin...all the time).
But the fact is, if you look at an interview with a pro basketball or football player, and then an interview with a pro hockey player, chances are, you are going to come away thinking the hockey player is more humble and polite. Its a cultural thing for the sport, or maybe where the majority of the athletes are from.
My brother in law worked security at the Garden for years. His assessment was always that the B's players were nice guys and the Celtics players were jerks.
He's Hispanic so I doubt his assessment is based on race.
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Some people just don't like the NBA.
True, but its annoying when someone turns not liking a sport into a "values" judgment on its players.
Athletes across all sports are incredibly entitled, I think if you paint one as being "more" you're deluding yourself.
Extremely true. Still doesn't make his comments racist
Explictly no, but I've heard similar statements from MLB/NHL fans about NFL/NBA often enough that it makes me less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. (not to mention the politcal world were "values" type coding is more prevelant)
But that's mostly because even I see him on a limited basis since I'm not in the Boston area he's an annoying talking head. I'll happily assume the worst about him, skip bayless, etc...
The thing is though, Hockey players do carry themselves differently than other pro athletes in the US, on the whole. I actually think it is a Canadian thing. There are still plenty of **** hockey players (and Felger bashes on them...like Ovechkin...all the time).
But the fact is, if you look at an interview with a pro basketball or football player, and then an interview with a pro hockey player, chances are, you are going to come away thinking the hockey player is more humble and polite. Its a cultural thing for the sport, or maybe where the majority of the athletes are from.
In the vast majority of interviews that I see with NBA players, I end up liking that player. I guess it is a cultural thing.
As to Tanguay and Felger, what a couple of clowns. They actually looked embarrassed at themselves about the garbage they were spewing in that piece.
I didn't know Rondo went to Mexico to watch the games. Cool!
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My problem with Felger as far as the NBA goes is that he rips the Celtics for a lot of things that are more of an NBA problem than a Celtics problem.
If he's going to like any NBA team it has the be the Celtics. Great coach (who he loves), a bunch of team first guys, one if the greatest teammates ever in KG, and a defense first team.
He's always complaining about it being a star league, no defense, so if you hate that stuff you should like the Celtics.
He did have a gripe with KG and Rondo walking off the court last year and gave scott brooks and OKC credit for shaking hands etc when they lost. That was a legitimate IMO
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Some people just don't like the NBA.
True, but its annoying when someone turns not liking a sport into a "values" judgment on its players.
Athletes across all sports are incredibly entitled, I think if you paint one as being "more" you're deluding yourself.
Extremely true. Still doesn't make his comments racist
Explictly no, but I've heard similar statements from MLB/NHL fans about NFL/NBA often enough that it makes me less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. (not to mention the politcal world were "values" type coding is more prevelant)
But that's mostly because even I see him on a limited basis since I'm not in the Boston area he's an annoying talking head. I'll happily assume the worst about him, skip bayless, etc...
The thing is though, Hockey players do carry themselves differently than other pro athletes in the US, on the whole. I actually think it is a Canadian thing. There are still plenty of **** hockey players (and Felger bashes on them...like Ovechkin...all the time).
But the fact is, if you look at an interview with a pro basketball or football player, and then an interview with a pro hockey player, chances are, you are going to come away thinking the hockey player is more humble and polite. Its a cultural thing for the sport, or maybe where the majority of the athletes are from.
My brother in law worked security at the Garden for years. His assessment was always that the B's players were nice guys and the Celtics players were jerks.
He's Hispanic so I doubt his assessment is based on race.
I've never met your brother-in-law so I'm certainly not going to make any assumptions about him and his views, but I think it's extremely naive to think that a person can't have racist attitudes because he is Hispanic.
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Some people just don't like the NBA.
True, but its annoying when someone turns not liking a sport into a "values" judgment on its players.
Athletes across all sports are incredibly entitled, I think if you paint one as being "more" you're deluding yourself.
Extremely true. Still doesn't make his comments racist
Explictly no, but I've heard similar statements from MLB/NHL fans about NFL/NBA often enough that it makes me less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. (not to mention the politcal world were "values" type coding is more prevelant)
But that's mostly because even I see him on a limited basis since I'm not in the Boston area he's an annoying talking head. I'll happily assume the worst about him, skip bayless, etc...
The thing is though, Hockey players do carry themselves differently than other pro athletes in the US, on the whole. I actually think it is a Canadian thing. There are still plenty of **** hockey players (and Felger bashes on them...like Ovechkin...all the time).
But the fact is, if you look at an interview with a pro basketball or football player, and then an interview with a pro hockey player, chances are, you are going to come away thinking the hockey player is more humble and polite. Its a cultural thing for the sport, or maybe where the majority of the athletes are from.
My brother in law worked security at the Garden for years. His assessment was always that the B's players were nice guys and the Celtics players were jerks.
He's Hispanic so I doubt his assessment is based on race.
And the thing is, it may have nothing to do with how these guys are in private. But I really think as kids come up in hockey (particularly if they go through the juniors in Canada), they are taught a certain way to act in public. Its about being respectful and curteous to others. It is kind of similar to the military.
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these guys are jerks in private, but they just have been trained to hide that in public.
I don't think you get that culture in basketball.
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My problem with Felger as far as the NBA goes is that he rips the Celtics for a lot of things that are more of an NBA problem than a Celtics problem.
If he's going to like any NBA team it has the be the Celtics. Great coach (who he loves), a bunch of team first guys, one if the greatest teammates ever in KG, and a defense first team.
He's always complaining about it being a star league, no defense, so if you hate that stuff you should like the Celtics.
He did have a gripe with KG and Rondo walking off the court last year and gave scott brooks and OKC credit for shaking hands etc when they lost. That was a legitimate IMO
Well, its also important to remember that he is a Bucks fan. He grew up in Wisconsin, and stays loyal to his team. I respect that. And I personally enjoy seeing the contrast of him to some of the die hard C's fans on there. It makes for entertaining arguments.
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Some people just don't like the NBA.
True, but its annoying when someone turns not liking a sport into a "values" judgment on its players.
Athletes across all sports are incredibly entitled, I think if you paint one as being "more" you're deluding yourself.
Extremely true. Still doesn't make his comments racist
Explictly no, but I've heard similar statements from MLB/NHL fans about NFL/NBA often enough that it makes me less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. (not to mention the politcal world were "values" type coding is more prevelant)
But that's mostly because even I see him on a limited basis since I'm not in the Boston area he's an annoying talking head. I'll happily assume the worst about him, skip bayless, etc...
The thing is though, Hockey players do carry themselves differently than other pro athletes in the US, on the whole. I actually think it is a Canadian thing. There are still plenty of **** hockey players (and Felger bashes on them...like Ovechkin...all the time).
But the fact is, if you look at an interview with a pro basketball or football player, and then an interview with a pro hockey player, chances are, you are going to come away thinking the hockey player is more humble and polite. Its a cultural thing for the sport, or maybe where the majority of the athletes are from.
My brother in law worked security at the Garden for years. His assessment was always that the B's players were nice guys and the Celtics players were jerks.
He's Hispanic so I doubt his assessment is based on race.
I have a family friend who works for the c's and says they are all scumbags but I usually try to ignore that since im not privi to all details.
Im sure that's a pro sports thing anyway tho
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Some people just don't like the NBA.
True, but its annoying when someone turns not liking a sport into a "values" judgment on its players.
Athletes across all sports are incredibly entitled, I think if you paint one as being "more" you're deluding yourself.
Extremely true. Still doesn't make his comments racist
Explictly no, but I've heard similar statements from MLB/NHL fans about NFL/NBA often enough that it makes me less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. (not to mention the politcal world were "values" type coding is more prevelant)
But that's mostly because even I see him on a limited basis since I'm not in the Boston area he's an annoying talking head. I'll happily assume the worst about him, skip bayless, etc...
The thing is though, Hockey players do carry themselves differently than other pro athletes in the US, on the whole. I actually think it is a Canadian thing. There are still plenty of **** hockey players (and Felger bashes on them...like Ovechkin...all the time).
But the fact is, if you look at an interview with a pro basketball or football player, and then an interview with a pro hockey player, chances are, you are going to come away thinking the hockey player is more humble and polite. Its a cultural thing for the sport, or maybe where the majority of the athletes are from.
In the vast majority of interviews that I see with NBA players, I end up liking that player. I guess it is a cultural thing.
As to Tanguay and Felger, what a couple of clowns. They actually looked embarrassed at themselves about the garbage they were spewing in that piece.
I didn't know Rondo went to Mexico to watch the games. Cool!
Really? The vast majority of interviews you come out liking the player?
Maybe I just can't get Dwight, Wade, Melo, Lebron out of my head
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Some people just don't like the NBA.
True, but its annoying when someone turns not liking a sport into a "values" judgment on its players.
Athletes across all sports are incredibly entitled, I think if you paint one as being "more" you're deluding yourself.
Extremely true. Still doesn't make his comments racist
Explictly no, but I've heard similar statements from MLB/NHL fans about NFL/NBA often enough that it makes me less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. (not to mention the politcal world were "values" type coding is more prevelant)
But that's mostly because even I see him on a limited basis since I'm not in the Boston area he's an annoying talking head. I'll happily assume the worst about him, skip bayless, etc...
The thing is though, Hockey players do carry themselves differently than other pro athletes in the US, on the whole. I actually think it is a Canadian thing. There are still plenty of **** hockey players (and Felger bashes on them...like Ovechkin...all the time).
But the fact is, if you look at an interview with a pro basketball or football player, and then an interview with a pro hockey player, chances are, you are going to come away thinking the hockey player is more humble and polite. Its a cultural thing for the sport, or maybe where the majority of the athletes are from.
In the vast majority of interviews that I see with NBA players, I end up liking that player. I guess it is a cultural thing.
As to Tanguay and Felger, what a couple of clowns. They actually looked embarrassed at themselves about the garbage they were spewing in that piece.
I didn't know Rondo went to Mexico to watch the games. Cool!
Really? The vast majority of interviews you come out liking the player?
Maybe I just can't get Dwight, Wade, Melo, Lebron out of my head
Yeah, really, even Lebron, completely despite myself, I usually can't help thinking he comes across as a pretty good guy. I generally don't dislike Melo when I hear him talk, either.
Dwight Howard, on the other hand, I think that guy has some serious issues. I used to like Dwayne Wade, but I just think that every time I see him now, I'm too influenced by my own fury over his takedown of Rondo in the 2011 playoffs to ever be able to not have a deep, permanent grudge against him.
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My problem with Felger as far as the NBA goes is that he rips the Celtics for a lot of things that are more of an NBA problem than a Celtics problem.
If he's going to like any NBA team it has the be the Celtics. Great coach (who he loves), a bunch of team first guys, one if the greatest teammates ever in KG, and a defense first team.
He's always complaining about it being a star league, no defense, so if you hate that stuff you should like the Celtics.
He did have a gripe with KG and Rondo walking off the court last year and gave scott brooks and OKC credit for shaking hands etc when they lost. That was a legitimate IMO
Well, its also important to remember that he is a Bucks fan. He grew up in Wisconsin, and stays loyal to his team. I respect that. And I personally enjoy seeing the contrast of him to some of the die hard C's fans on there. It makes for entertaining arguments.
Agreed except for their stances on rondo....if this was a player they liked they would spin it in apositive light,a turning point, sticking up for teammates.....no they call him immature and a non leader....I'm just so sick of that, no other player in town in any sport gets called that for worse or similar actions....was dusting pedroia called immature and a bad leader when he rebelled against his manager? Was david ortiz called immature when he charged the mound in recent years? Will the patriots be mocked when they run up the score to obtain individual records? If a hockey player did the same thing he'd have a pants tent
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But the fact is, if you look at an interview with a pro basketball or football player, and then an interview with a pro hockey player, chances are, you are going to come away thinking the hockey player is more humble and polite.
Really? All I can think of when watching NHL interviews is how often they say "uh, ya know." It's hardly noticeable, but once you know it's there and you're listening for it you want to claw out your ears every 2 seconds (I just picked a random video below).
If anything I come away thinking hockey players are less intelligent. NBA players typically get on the mic and say whatever comes to mind, whether it's foul language or ignorance, salmon and mashed potatoes or Michael F-ing Jordan, doesn't matter. I find the Canadians take interviews much slower and actually calculate what they're going to say. Obviously cultural differences, but I wouldn't say I pick up more politeness and humility. I'd go with they're more relaxed. The general public is more polite but I wouldn't extend that to their athletes purely from interviews I've seen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH34X7FTgWg
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My problem with Felger as far as the NBA goes is that he rips the Celtics for a lot of things that are more of an NBA problem than a Celtics problem.
If he's going to like any NBA team it has the be the Celtics. Great coach (who he loves), a bunch of team first guys, one if the greatest teammates ever in KG, and a defense first team.
He's always complaining about it being a star league, no defense, so if you hate that stuff you should like the Celtics.
He did have a gripe with KG and Rondo walking off the court last year and gave scott brooks and OKC credit for shaking hands etc when they lost. That was a legitimate IMO
Well, its also important to remember that he is a Bucks fan. He grew up in Wisconsin, and stays loyal to his team. I respect that. And I personally enjoy seeing the contrast of him to some of the die hard C's fans on there. It makes for entertaining arguments.
Agreed except for their stances on rondo....if this was a player they liked they would spin it in apositive light,a turning point, sticking up for teammates.....no they call him immature and a non leader....I'm just so sick of that, no other player in town in any sport gets called that for worse or similar actions....was dusting pedroia called immature and a bad leader when he rebelled against his manager? Was david ortiz called immature when he charged the mound in recent years? Will the patriots be mocked when they run up the score to obtain individual records? If a hockey player did the same thing he'd have a pants tent
Just in the interest of fairness, because I listen to them all the time on the drive home;
was dusting pedroia called immature and a bad leader when he rebelled against his manager?
Yes, they were all over him for the picture and his conduct. Both of them are on record as calling pedroia a non-leader, that he doesn't have that kind of personality. Mazz is of the opinion that he's a good player but out of his depth as a team leader.
Was david ortiz called immature when he charged the mound in recent years?
Not for charging the mound, but the get on him pretty good whenever he complains about his money, which is often. They also called him a knucklehead for his antics the last 2 years barging into press conferences, taking vield shots at teammates ect.
If a hockey player did the same thing he'd have a pants tent
Again, theres no denying Mike like hockey and hates basketball, though I'm not one of the posters in this thread that is implying liking hockey and disliking basketball makes you sneaky racist. Thats just a situation where people are looking to be offended to me.
But as to this specific comment, he gets on hockey guys, even on bruins guys. Lucic, marshand, segin, thomas, all those guys get criticized. They only person on the bruins he has a unabated mancrush on is tukka.
I mean Mike's certainly playing up his gimmick, but I think he's generally a smart guy. what keeps people listening/watching is while his opinions are contrarian to a fault, he usually can back them up, which is something Skip bayless and their Ilk cant. people like to argue with him.
Gary's just a tool with a voice for radio who agrees with whatever dominant host is in the room with him, I hope to god he doesn't get the Celtics Play by Play job, which he seems to be campaigning for.
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Fair enough crownsy....I just think they're stronger about the rondo vitriol and I find it hard to listen too... the tipping point was Maxwell on weei at the same time speaking on the matter and actually making sense and connecting personal experiences he had with red... I don't need an anti rondo and Nba schtixk anymore
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I don't like people who take cheap shots from their safe, lofty position behind the mike.
I find it cowardly. Felger would p--- his pants if he had to confront face to face all the athletes' he's taken a dump on.
I realize it's entertainment. But it's not my kind.
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What did Rondo say?
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I was amazed to find out the other day that Felger and Mazz are on CSN from 2 - 6 o clock every freakin weekday.
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What did Rondo say?
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4699707/rondo-glad-to-be-back-with-team
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I don't like people who take cheap shots from their safe, lofty position behind the mike.
I find it cowardly. Felger would p--- his pants if he had to confront face to face all the athletes' he's taken a dump on.
I realize it's entertainment. But it's not my kind.
So no commentator is allowed to be critical of a player unless that player gets a chance to punch him out?
What is this, 9th grade?
Rondo makes millions of dollar a year to play basketball, I'm sure he could care less what local radio hosts think of his leadership abilities.
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the only problem i have with rondo going after humphries is that he didnt punch his lights out. enough of the pushing crap ;)
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I don't like people who take cheap shots from their safe, lofty position behind the mike.
I find it cowardly. Felger would p--- his pants if he had to confront face to face all the athletes' he's taken a dump on.
I realize it's entertainment. But it's not my kind.
I understand this, and I agree to a point. But its just their job. Sadly, that is what sells on sports radio (and Sports Tonight is an offshoot of sports radio).
But its definitely not for everyone.
I used to like sports radio a lot more, but over the last few years the schtick has gotten really old. But there are still a ton of people who LOVE it.
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Fair enough crownsy....I just think they're stronger about the rondo vitriol and I find it hard to listen too... the tipping point was Maxwell on weei at the same time speaking on the matter and actually making sense and connecting personal experiences he had with red... I don't need an anti rondo and Nba schtixk anymore
Come on. You should take Felger with a grain of salt but you should also be taking Max, Grande, Tommy, Dickerson with spoon fulls of salt
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My problem with Felger as far as the NBA goes is that he rips the Celtics for a lot of things that are more of an NBA problem than a Celtics problem.
If he's going to like any NBA team it has the be the Celtics. Great coach (who he loves), a bunch of team first guys, one if the greatest teammates ever in KG, and a defense first team.
He's always complaining about it being a star league, no defense, so if you hate that stuff you should like the Celtics.
He did have a gripe with KG and Rondo walking off the court last year and gave scott brooks and OKC credit for shaking hands etc when they lost. That was a legitimate IMO
Well, its also important to remember that he is a Bucks fan. He grew up in Wisconsin, and stays loyal to his team. I respect that. And I personally enjoy seeing the contrast of him to some of the die hard C's fans on there. It makes for entertaining arguments.
Agreed except for their stances on rondo....if this was a player they liked they would spin it in apositive light,a turning point, sticking up for teammates.....no they call him immature and a non leader....I'm just so sick of that, no other player in town in any sport gets called that for worse or similar actions....was dusting pedroia called immature and a bad leader when he rebelled against his manager? Was david ortiz called immature when he charged the mound in recent years? Will the patriots be mocked when they run up the score to obtain individual records? If a hockey player did the same thing he'd have a pants tent
Just in the interest of fairness, because I listen to them all the time on the drive home;
was dusting pedroia called immature and a bad leader when he rebelled against his manager?
Yes, they were all over him for the picture and his conduct. Both of them are on record as calling pedroia a non-leader, that he doesn't have that kind of personality. Mazz is of the opinion that he's a good player but out of his depth as a team leader.
Was david ortiz called immature when he charged the mound in recent years?
Not for charging the mound, but the get on him pretty good whenever he complains about his money, which is often. They also called him a knucklehead for his antics the last 2 years barging into press conferences, taking vield shots at teammates ect.
If a hockey player did the same thing he'd have a pants tent
Again, theres no denying Mike like hockey and hates basketball, though I'm not one of the posters in this thread that is implying liking hockey and disliking basketball makes you sneaky racist. Thats just a situation where people are looking to be offended to me.
But as to this specific comment, he gets on hockey guys, even on bruins guys. Lucic, marshand, segin, thomas, all those guys get criticized. They only person on the bruins he has a unabated mancrush on is tukka.
I mean Mike's certainly playing up his gimmick, but I think he's generally a smart guy. what keeps people listening/watching is while his opinions are contrarian to a fault, he usually can back them up, which is something Skip bayless and their Ilk cant. people like to argue with him.
Gary's just a tool with a voice for radio who agrees with whatever dominant host is in the room with him, I hope to god he doesn't get the Celtics Play by Play job, which he seems to be campaigning for.
Thank you for answering that.
He gets on the hockey guys all the time too. He rips on Lucic and his playoff success.
He calls Marshand Marshmon (or whatever) even when Marshand made it known that he doesn't want or like to be called that. He pretty much ripped the Bruins organization apart before winning the cup.
He's ripped Brady and Belicheck.
I think its stupid when he rips on garnet for screaming or pumping his chest but at least with Rondo he has a legitimate point unless of course you are talking to Tommy or Max
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Fair enough crownsy....I just think they're stronger about the rondo vitriol and I find it hard to listen too... the tipping point was Maxwell on weei at the same time speaking on the matter and actually making sense and connecting personal experiences he had with red... I don't need an anti rondo and Nba schtixk anymore
Come on. You should take Felger with a grain of salt but you should also be taking Max, Grande, Tommy, Dickerson with spoon fulls of salt
Uh agree on Tommy or dickerson but not Max sorry.... hes objective. just the week prior he took the stance against rondo and going back in the Detroit game. He stood up for rondo the sticking up for his team and said red would have too. Thats enough for me.
I also realize felger gets on everyone from different sports....he doesn't disrespect them as men and call them immature. Rondo is mature for his age as ive said before... hes done things on the court that make him a jerk maybe but hes never been in trouble off it, revolves his life around basketball, team, staying healthy, business ventures and charitty work...hes twice as mature as pierce or kg at 26...as felger would say...fact not opinion....he wouldn't call out anyone else for standing up to a bigger guy to stick up for your team sorry
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Fair enough crownsy....I just think they're stronger about the rondo vitriol and I find it hard to listen too... the tipping point was Maxwell on weei at the same time speaking on the matter and actually making sense and connecting personal experiences he had with red... I don't need an anti rondo and Nba schtixk anymore
Come on. You should take Felger with a grain of salt but you should also be taking Max, Grande, Tommy, Dickerson with spoon fulls of salt
Uh agree on Tommy or dickerson but not Max sorry.... hes objective. just the week prior he took the stance against rondo and going back in the Detroit game. He stood up for rondo the sticking up for his team and said red would have too. Thats enough for me.
I also realize felger gets on everyone from different sports....he doesn't disrespect them as men and call them immature. Rondo is mature for his age as ive said before... hes done things on the court that make him a jerk maybe but hes never been in trouble off it, revolves his life around basketball, team, staying healthy, business ventures and charitty work...hes twice as mature as pierce or kg at 26...as felger would say...fact not opinion....he wouldn't call out anyone else for standing up to a bigger guy to stick up for your team sorry
Felger has called plenty of other guys immature, and much worse.
He has been pretty brutal to Beckett for instance, and has railed on Marchand for being immature for doing kind of the same type of stuff Rondo got suspended for.
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Fair enough crownsy....I just think they're stronger about the rondo vitriol and I find it hard to listen too... the tipping point was Maxwell on weei at the same time speaking on the matter and actually making sense and connecting personal experiences he had with red... I don't need an anti rondo and Nba schtixk anymore
Come on. You should take Felger with a grain of salt but you should also be taking Max, Grande, Tommy, Dickerson with spoon fulls of salt
Uh agree on Tommy or dickerson but not Max sorry.... hes objective. just the week prior he took the stance against rondo and going back in the Detroit game. He stood up for rondo the sticking up for his team and said red would have too. Thats enough for me.
I also realize felger gets on everyone from different sports....he doesn't disrespect them as men and call them immature. Rondo is mature for his age as ive said before... hes done things on the court that make him a jerk maybe but hes never been in trouble off it, revolves his life around basketball, team, staying healthy, business ventures and charitty work...hes twice as mature as pierce or kg at 26...as felger would say...fact not opinion....he wouldn't call out anyone else for standing up to a bigger guy to stick up for your team sorry
Felger has called plenty of other guys immature, and much worse.
He has been pretty brutal to Beckett for instance, and has railed on Marchand for being immature for doing kind of the same type of stuff Rondo got suspended for.
Thank you, saved me some typing. TP
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Never heard him call anyone else immature....he was right about beckett...never called him immature to my knowledge.....never called marchand immature to my knowledge either he doesn't like his flopping....completely different then sticking up for a teammate. My problem is with that specific word...I think its misplaced with rondo because hes young and has an attitude. Like ive also said before kgs chest pounding, screaming on the Jumbotron, constantly cursing and cheapshots...for his age or any id consider that immature....rondo has no emotion a straight face says little to nothing and is a little guy with an edge who stood up to a bigger player..... hes never been in trouble, never blamed anyone for anything, never demanded trades and took a discount contract to stay here. Dwight Howard is immature...hell lebron and his decision...immature.
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Never heard him call anyone else immature....he was right about beckett...never called him immature to my knowledge.....never called marchand immature to my knowledge either he doesn't like his flopping....completely different then sticking up for a teammate. My problem is with that specific word...I think its misplaced with rondo because hes young and has an attitude. Like ive also said before kgs chest pounding, screaming on the Jumbotron, constantly cursing and cheapshots...for his age or any id consider that immature....rondo has no emotion a straight face says little to nothing and is a little guy with an edge who stood up to a bigger player.....
You're basing it on your own opinion.
Personally, I think Rondo WAS immature, and has acted immature a lot over his career.
And yes, Felger has definitely called Marchand immature. When he got suspended last year, he railed on him for being stupid and immature.
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Never heard him call anyone else immature....he was right about beckett...never called him immature to my knowledge.....never called marchand immature to my knowledge either he doesn't like his flopping....completely different then sticking up for a teammate. My problem is with that specific word...I think its misplaced with rondo because hes young and has an attitude. Like ive also said before kgs chest pounding, screaming on the Jumbotron, constantly cursing and cheapshots...for his age or any id consider that immature....rondo has no emotion a straight face says little to nothing and is a little guy with an edge who stood up to a bigger player.....
You're basing it on your own opinion.
Personally, I think Rondo WAS immature, and has acted immature a lot over his career.
And yes, Felger has definitely called Marchand immature. When he got suspended last year, he railed on him for being stupid and immature.
Fair enough....I see him as mature well well beyond his years...hes done some stupid things here and there because of his edgy competiveness...same as kg who no one around here would call a non leader. This isnt young Paul pierce type immaturity.
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Never heard him call anyone else immature....he was right about beckett...never called him immature to my knowledge.....never called marchand immature to my knowledge either he doesn't like his flopping....completely different then sticking up for a teammate. My problem is with that specific word...I think its misplaced with rondo because hes young and has an attitude. Like ive also said before kgs chest pounding, screaming on the Jumbotron, constantly cursing and cheapshots...for his age or any id consider that immature....rondo has no emotion a straight face says little to nothing and is a little guy with an edge who stood up to a bigger player.....
You're basing it on your own opinion.
Personally, I think Rondo WAS immature, and has acted immature a lot over his career.
And yes, Felger has definitely called Marchand immature. When he got suspended last year, he railed on him for being stupid and immature.
Fair enough....I see him as mature well well beyond his years...hes done some stupid things here and there because of his edgy competiveness...same as kg who no one around here would call a non leader.
Well, I think this is where it gets into a very personal definition of maturity...which is where it gets hairy.
Personally, I think Rondo is still immature(in basketball related things...I have no clue about him outside the public eye), because he has not learned to control his emotions. He lets them get in the way to the point that they affect his team in a negative way. To me (and I think to Felger) that is a sign of immaturity.
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Never heard him call anyone else immature....he was right about beckett...never called him immature to my knowledge.....never called marchand immature to my knowledge either he doesn't like his flopping....completely different then sticking up for a teammate. My problem is with that specific word...I think its misplaced with rondo because hes young and has an attitude. Like ive also said before kgs chest pounding, screaming on the Jumbotron, constantly cursing and cheapshots...for his age or any id consider that immature....rondo has no emotion a straight face says little to nothing and is a little guy with an edge who stood up to a bigger player.....
You're basing it on your own opinion.
Personally, I think Rondo WAS immature, and has acted immature a lot over his career.
And yes, Felger has definitely called Marchand immature. When he got suspended last year, he railed on him for being stupid and immature.
Fair enough....I see him as mature well well beyond his years...hes done some stupid things here and there because of his edgy competiveness...same as kg who no one around here would call a non leader.
Well, I think this is where it gets into a very personal definition of maturity...which is where it gets hairy.
Personally, I think Rondo is still immature(in basketball related things...I have no clue about him outside the public eye), because he has not learned to control his emotions. He lets them get in the way to the point that they affect his team in a negative way. To me (and I think to Felger) that is a sign of immaturity.
I don't think this specific one did effect them negatively honestly I think there's a case for the opposite similar to how a team reacts when a coach is ejected. He put a personal record on the line to stick up for a teammste. I also think he learned and models his attitude after kgs....the guy praised for leadership but also has been ejected from playoff games, suspended for elbows and gotten on all four and barked at point guards.
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Never heard him call anyone else immature....he was right about beckett...never called him immature to my knowledge.....never called marchand immature to my knowledge either he doesn't like his flopping....completely different then sticking up for a teammate. My problem is with that specific word...I think its misplaced with rondo because hes young and has an attitude. Like ive also said before kgs chest pounding, screaming on the Jumbotron, constantly cursing and cheapshots...for his age or any id consider that immature....rondo has no emotion a straight face says little to nothing and is a little guy with an edge who stood up to a bigger player.....
You're basing it on your own opinion.
Personally, I think Rondo WAS immature, and has acted immature a lot over his career.
And yes, Felger has definitely called Marchand immature. When he got suspended last year, he railed on him for being stupid and immature.
I don't think Rondo was really immature, just a young player living under a microscope.
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Some people just don't like the NBA.
True, but its annoying when someone turns not liking a sport into a "values" judgment on its players.
Athletes across all sports are incredibly entitled, I think if you paint one as being "more" you're deluding yourself.
Extremely true. Still doesn't make his comments racist
Explictly no, but I've heard similar statements from MLB/NHL fans about NFL/NBA often enough that it makes me less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. (not to mention the politcal world were "values" type coding is more prevelant)
But that's mostly because even I see him on a limited basis since I'm not in the Boston area he's an annoying talking head. I'll happily assume the worst about him, skip bayless, etc...
The thing is though, Hockey players do carry themselves differently than other pro athletes in the US, on the whole. I actually think it is a Canadian thing. There are still plenty of **** hockey players (and Felger bashes on them...like Ovechkin...all the time).
But the fact is, if you look at an interview with a pro basketball or football player, and then an interview with a pro hockey player, chances are, you are going to come away thinking the hockey player is more humble and polite. Its a cultural thing for the sport, or maybe where the majority of the athletes are from.
My brother in law worked security at the Garden for years. His assessment was always that the B's players were nice guys and the Celtics players were jerks.
He's Hispanic so I doubt his assessment is based on race.
I have a family friend who works for the c's and says they are all scumbags but I usually try to ignore that since im not privi to all details.
Im sure that's a pro sports thing anyway tho
Interesting, cause I know a guy who worked at the four seasons and saw them multiple times a year and said they are all pretty nice dudes, especially KG and Paul.
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Never heard him call anyone else immature....he was right about beckett...never called him immature to my knowledge.....never called marchand immature to my knowledge either he doesn't like his flopping....completely different then sticking up for a teammate. My problem is with that specific word...I think its misplaced with rondo because hes young and has an attitude. Like ive also said before kgs chest pounding, screaming on the Jumbotron, constantly cursing and cheapshots...for his age or any id consider that immature....rondo has no emotion a straight face says little to nothing and is a little guy with an edge who stood up to a bigger player.....
You're basing it on your own opinion.
Personally, I think Rondo WAS immature, and has acted immature a lot over his career.
And yes, Felger has definitely called Marchand immature. When he got suspended last year, he railed on him for being stupid and immature.
You must have a very interesting take on the meaning of immature.
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I think Mazz is generally a good guy, but I really can't help thinking that there's more than a little racism in Felger's passionate hating on NBA players and the sport in general. Tanguay is, as you say, just a narcissist who will do anything to get attention and approval.
Dude i honestly feel kind of the same way about felger. Theres a little undercurrent of anomosity towards black folks from him IMO.
My feeling is that when you hear guys like Felger talk about how the NBA is full of "entitled" and "spoiled" athletes who want everything their own way and how its such a "star driven league" and that's a bad thing, then they extol the virtues of the NHL where everybody is a "hard worker" and has "grit" and "character," it's hard not to see the code language of race at play.
I think you are taking it way overboard with these "race" comments. A lot of what he says about the NBA is true to.
Is there anyone in sports who act more entitled than the poster boys of the NBA Dwight Howard and Lebron James?
Are those players entitled or spoiled? Sure they are. But athletes in every sport are like that. It's just a matter of how obvious it is. The NBA is much more noticeable because they actually market the stars as the main focus of the show.
It's on the NBA that things are the way they are, not the players. But it's much easier for a guy like Felger to focus on the players. Why? Race. Maybe I'm being too sensitive, but the language he uses about it often seems loaded.
It's the same way that white players in the NBA are usually talked about as being "hard working" and "making the most of their talent" whereas highly talented black guys like LeBron are "supremely gifted" and have to "grow up" and "mature." To overcome their basic nature, in other words. Code language.
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He's Hispanic so I doubt his assessment is based on race.
Because hispanic people can't be racist?
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Some people just don't like the NBA.
True, but its annoying when someone turns not liking a sport into a "values" judgment on its players.
Athletes across all sports are incredibly entitled, I think if you paint one as being "more" you're deluding yourself.
Extremely true. Still doesn't make his comments racist
Explictly no, but I've heard similar statements from MLB/NHL fans about NFL/NBA often enough that it makes me less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. (not to mention the politcal world were "values" type coding is more prevelant)
But that's mostly because even I see him on a limited basis since I'm not in the Boston area he's an annoying talking head. I'll happily assume the worst about him, skip bayless, etc...
The thing is though, Hockey players do carry themselves differently than other pro athletes in the US, on the whole. I actually think it is a Canadian thing. There are still plenty of **** hockey players (and Felger bashes on them...like Ovechkin...all the time).
But the fact is, if you look at an interview with a pro basketball or football player, and then an interview with a pro hockey player, chances are, you are going to come away thinking the hockey player is more humble and polite. Its a cultural thing for the sport, or maybe where the majority of the athletes are from.
My brother in law worked security at the Garden for years. His assessment was always that the B's players were nice guys and the Celtics players were jerks.
He's Hispanic so I doubt his assessment is based on race.
I have a family friend who works for the c's and says they are all scumbags but I usually try to ignore that since im not privi to all details.
Im sure that's a pro sports thing anyway tho
Interesting, cause I know a guy who worked at the four seasons and saw them multiple times a year and said they are all pretty nice dudes, especially KG and Paul.
I've heard better things about KG than PP.
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Within the past year, on a program Tanguay was on, someone said little league baseball isn’t as popular as it used to be in the country, and Tanguay said Lacrosse (nothing against Lacrosse) could become more popular than little league baseball.
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Within the past year, on a program Tanguay was on, someone said little league baseball isn’t as popular as it used to be in the country, and Tanguay said Lacrosse (nothing against Lacrosse) could become more popular than little league baseball.
I have heard this elsewhere, and I think it is not far off, at least in certain towns. I am not sure if it is only in certain areas of the state, or if it has gone beyond that, but I do know there are areas where it is an incredibly fast growing sport that is taking over as a dominant spring sport.
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Within the past year, on a program Tanguay was on, someone said little league baseball isn’t as popular as it used to be in the country, and Tanguay said Lacrosse (nothing against Lacrosse) could become more popular than little league baseball.
I have heard this elsewhere, and I think it is not far off, at least in certain towns. I am not sure if it is only in certain areas of the state, or if it has gone beyond that, but I do know there are areas where it is an incredibly fast growing sport that is taking over as a dominant spring sport.
It's pretty heavily based in New England, but yes.
Anyway, while I understand the job these guys have to perform, I have a very low interest in what any Athlete does off the court, or how they measure up as human beings. The human interest stories are nice, but at the end of the day, these guys put a ball through a hoop/in a net/in the endzone, and they do it better than the 99.9999% of the rest of the world. I don't need them to be Nobel Prize recipients.
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I think Mazz is generally a good guy, but I really can't help thinking that there's more than a little racism in Felger's passionate hating on NBA players and the sport in general. Tanguay is, as you say, just a narcissist who will do anything to get attention and approval.
Dude i honestly feel kind of the same way about felger. Theres a little undercurrent of anomosity towards black folks from him IMO.
My feeling is that when you hear guys like Felger talk about how the NBA is full of "entitled" and "spoiled" athletes who want everything their own way and how its such a "star driven league" and that's a bad thing, then they extol the virtues of the NHL where everybody is a "hard worker" and has "grit" and "character," it's hard not to see the code language of race at play.
Or it could be that Felger grew up in Wisconsin and is a huge hockey and NHL fan and was never really exposed to the NBA and good basketball until he came to Boston at the end on the Bird era.
Some people just don't like the NBA.
Hey, he had the Bucks for crying out loud. He's always had great basketball to watch. If there is one thing we are proud of in WI (besides the population of 400 pound women), it's our storied franchise: the Milwaukee Bucks.
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Within the past year, on a program Tanguay was on, someone said little league baseball isn’t as popular as it used to be in the country, and Tanguay said Lacrosse (nothing against Lacrosse) could become more popular than little league baseball.
I have heard this elsewhere, and I think it is not far off, at least in certain towns. I am not sure if it is only in certain areas of the state, or if it has gone beyond that, but I do know there are areas where it is an incredibly fast growing sport that is taking over as a dominant spring sport.
It's pretty heavily based in New England, but yes.
Anyway, while I understand the job these guys have to perform, I have a very low interest in what any Athlete does off the court, or how they measure up as human beings. The human interest stories are nice, but at the end of the day, these guys put a ball through a hoop/in a net/in the endzone, and they do it better than the 99.9999% of the rest of the world. I don't need them to be Nobel Prize recipients.
I am with you, and this is a big reason I have weened myself off talk radio the last couple of years. I just have no interest in hearing about whether Tom Brady should skip the game to be with his pregnant wife, or anything having to do with fried chicken.
But I get the impression I might be in the minority about that, based on the ratings.
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Some people just don't like the NBA.
True, but its annoying when someone turns not liking a sport into a "values" judgment on its players.
Athletes across all sports are incredibly entitled, I think if you paint one as being "more" you're deluding yourself.
Extremely true. Still doesn't make his comments racist
Explictly no, but I've heard similar statements from MLB/NHL fans about NFL/NBA often enough that it makes me less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. (not to mention the politcal world were "values" type coding is more prevelant)
But that's mostly because even I see him on a limited basis since I'm not in the Boston area he's an annoying talking head. I'll happily assume the worst about him, skip bayless, etc...
I have to agree with you guys. You often hear the word "thug" used too.. and I just cringe.
He is a joke specifically though. He is totally in the Skip Bayless vein of guy that will say something to get a rise. He has no real values or consistent line of thinking so it makes it easy.
Best example is the criticisms of Rondo I heard from local sports radio and TV after the fight. These are all the same guys that will criticize NBA players for being friends and there not being that competitive fire in the league. LeBron will be bashed for this. Rondo goes against it and he is targeted.
Just typical crap from local Boston sports. It's all insufferable to listen to.
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Within the past year, on a program Tanguay was on, someone said little league baseball isn’t as popular as it used to be in the country, and Tanguay said Lacrosse (nothing against Lacrosse) could become more popular than little league baseball.
I have heard this elsewhere, and I think it is not far off, at least in certain towns. I am not sure if it is only in certain areas of the state, or if it has gone beyond that, but I do know there are areas where it is an incredibly fast growing sport that is taking over as a dominant spring sport.
It's pretty heavily based in New England, but yes.
Anyway, while I understand the job these guys have to perform, I have a very low interest in what any Athlete does off the court, or how they measure up as human beings. The human interest stories are nice, but at the end of the day, these guys put a ball through a hoop/in a net/in the endzone, and they do it better than the 99.9999% of the rest of the world. I don't need them to be Nobel Prize recipients.
I am with you, and this is a big reason I have weened myself off talk radio the last couple of years. I just have no interest in hearing about whether Tom Brady should skip the game to be with his pregnant wife, or anything having to do with fried chicken.
But I get the impression I might be in the minority about that, based on the ratings.
Yeah, it's all about crafting a narrative. Football especially, since the season is so short.
Rolling Stone had a great article about the way the producers of the weekly football programs put their shows together (no politics, don't worry!):
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-nfl-more-show-than-game-20121026
It's some seriously interesting stuff. (with a sprinkling of NSFW language)
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I think Mazz is generally a good guy, but I really can't help thinking that there's more than a little racism in Felger's passionate hating on NBA players and the sport in general. Tanguay is, as you say, just a narcissist who will do anything to get attention and approval.
Dude i honestly feel kind of the same way about felger. Theres a little undercurrent of anomosity towards black folks from him IMO.
My feeling is that when you hear guys like Felger talk about how the NBA is full of "entitled" and "spoiled" athletes who want everything their own way and how its such a "star driven league" and that's a bad thing, then they extol the virtues of the NHL where everybody is a "hard worker" and has "grit" and "character," it's hard not to see the code language of race at play.
Or it could be that Felger grew up in Wisconsin and is a huge hockey and NHL fan and was never really exposed to the NBA and good basketball until he came to Boston at the end on the Bird era.
Some people just don't like the NBA.
Hey, he had the Bucks for crying out loud. He's always had great basketball to watch. If there is one thing we are proud of in WI (besides the population of 400 pound women), it's our storied franchise: the Milwaukee Bucks.
Don't forget the great bratwurst.
Too bad he's not older, that Kareem/Oscar team was great.
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What did Rondo say?
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4699707/rondo-glad-to-be-back-with-team
Ok, I read the article. Now can someone please point out what Rondo said that was controversial? I can't find anything.
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Many of these Boston radio and TV guys are just not that good. I stopped watching and listening, especially Felger, what an idiot.
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Felger and Donny hates the Celtics, why they have jobs in Boston is beyond me.
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Felger and Donny hates the Celtics, why they have jobs in Boston is beyond me.
It's like being crapped on from the rest of the national media isn't enough.