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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: OhioGreen on December 03, 2012, 07:10:42 AM

Title: Our Defense? Options?
Post by: OhioGreen on December 03, 2012, 07:10:42 AM
Is it just outlived it's time, or is straight up man to man defense a thing of the past?
I was just thinking, and other posters have mentioned it too, at times, that our rebounding problems are a result of being out of position, and not knowing WHO to box out, leading to offensive boards and easy hoops for the opposition.  Wouldn't going back to straight man to man D alleviate that?  We've supposedly got some really strong defenders on our squad, in addition to AB when he gets back! Or is all the constant switching on every ball exchange, and blitzing the PG's by our big men necessary!? I think it's causing more problems than its worth!
When TThibs, the defensive guru was here, it was fine, but with LFrank and now Longabardi, our D is just a shell of itself!!
I say go back to basics. Play man to man, and mix it up with zone on occasion. Know who you are supposed to be boxing out. Keep a couple guys back to stop breaks and get some offensive boards, and maybe this group can still work!
Title: Re: Our Defense? Options?
Post by: PhoSita on December 03, 2012, 08:05:13 AM
With the defense, the only option outside of miraculously acquiring an active, long, rebounding, shotblocking inside big man, is to just let the players work out their kinks on the floor and learn to trust each other.  In the meantime, we have to put up with the mixed results.
Title: Re: Our Defense? Options?
Post by: 2short on December 03, 2012, 08:12:29 AM
Its improving and will get much better when ab comes back.  Its the rotations, took awhile last year for everyone to "get it".
I've noticed on more than a few occasions the base line open as some guys are rotating down. 
Title: Re: Our Defense? Options?
Post by: BballTim on December 03, 2012, 09:56:22 AM
Its improving and will get much better when ab comes back.  Its the rotations, took awhile last year for everyone to "get it".
I've noticed on more than a few occasions the base line open as some guys are rotating down.

  It's definitely improving. I haven't been following the numbers very closely, but we're 16th in the league in defense, a week or two ago we were 24th or so.
Title: Re: Our Defense? Options?
Post by: Chris on December 03, 2012, 10:40:44 AM
Its improving and will get much better when ab comes back.  Its the rotations, took awhile last year for everyone to "get it".
I've noticed on more than a few occasions the base line open as some guys are rotating down.

  It's definitely improving. I haven't been following the numbers very closely, but we're 16th in the league in defense, a week or two ago we were 24th or so.

Yup.  No idea about the numbers, but the execution has been night and day compared to the beginning of the season.  Thats the thing about Doc's system.  You really need everyone on the same page, which is why this team takes a long time to integrate anyone new.  Now that the new guys are getting comfortable, things are looking much smoother. 
Title: Re: Our Defense? Options?
Post by: cman88 on December 03, 2012, 07:32:39 PM
the last 2 games, our defense has looked Alot better...even Scal mentioned it during the bucks game that the rotations were tighter.

also, bradley coming back with have an effect on it as well...he's our 2nd best defender after KG on the team.
Title: Re: Our Defense? Options?
Post by: csfansince60s on December 03, 2012, 08:01:59 PM
Hopefully Jet, especially, gets it sooner rather than later, or a weapon and FT shooter we need at the end of games is more of a liability than an asset.

His self-admitted blown coverage of Jennings on that three killed us.
Title: Re: Our Defense? Options?
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on December 03, 2012, 08:36:24 PM
Hopefully Jet, especially, gets it sooner rather than later, or a weapon and FT shooter we need at the end of games is more of a liability than an asset.

His self-admitted blown coverage of Jennings on that three killed us.

The problem is not Terry's defense, but the role his been playing. He shouldn't be starting, particularly against bigger and talented offensive players in the SG position.

His best role on this team is off the bench, and as our back-up PG with limited time on the floor with Rondo. And when he's on the floor with Rondo, it should be Rondo guarding the bigger guard, usually the SG.

Not to say that Terry is without blame, but the first step is putting him in a role where his chances of succeeding are that much greater instead of roles where he's destined to fail. Hopefully DOC gets it sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Our Defense? Options?
Post by: LooseCannon on December 03, 2012, 08:49:36 PM
When Bradley returns, will Doc understand that a healthy Bradley should be closing most games at the SG spot?