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Title: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: FLCeltsFan on November 29, 2012, 10:39:41 PM
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Portland Trailblazers (6-9) at Boson Celtics (8-7)
Friday, November 30, 2012
7:30 PM ET
Game #16, Home Game #9
TV:  CSNNE, CSN-POR, NBA-LP 755(POR)/756(BOS)
Radio:  WEEI, KXTG
TD Garden 

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Probable Starters

Point Guard
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Leandro Barbosa vs Damian Lillard

Shooting Guard

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Jason Terry vs  Wesley Matthews

Small Forward
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Paul Pierce   vs  Nicolas Batum

Power Forward
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3959.jpg)  vs  (http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/4481.jpg)
Brandon Bass   vs  JJ Hickson 

Center
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Kevin Garnett  vs  LaMarcus Aldridge

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Celtics Reserves
Jared Sullinger
Jason Collins
Courtney Lee

Injuries
Avery Bradley (shoulders) out
Jeff Green (knee) questionable
Chris Wilcox (illness)  questionable

Suspended
Rajon Rondo

Red Claws

Fab Melo *
Kris Joseph *
*May be called up if Green and Wilcox can't play

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Trailblazers Reserves
Jared Jeffries
Meyers Leonard
Will Barton
Ronnie Price
Sasha Pavlovic
Luke Babbitt
Joel Freeland
Nolan Smith
Victor Claver

Injuries
Elliot Williams (Achilles) out

Key Matchups
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Leandro Barbosa vs Damian Lillard
Rondo vs Lillard would have been a great matchup, but with Rondo suspended Doc will probably start Barbosa again.  Lillard is leading all rookies in scoring (19.1), assists (6.1) and steals (1.4) and will be a tough matchup for Barbosa, who needs to stick close to him on defense. 

(http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3253.jpg)  vs  (http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/4487.jpg)
Paul Pierce vs Nicolas Batum
Pierce has been struggling of late and looking his age.  Batum is a very good athletic player who is averaging 17.9 points, 5.9 rebounds and 3.1 assists. He is also 3rd in the league in made 3's.   Paul Pierce will have his hands full with Batum and will need to stay with him on defense, especially on the perimeter.   

Honorable Mention
Kevin Garnett vs LaMarcus Aldridge
Aldridge is leading the Blazers in scoring with 20.4 ppg along with 7.4 rebounds and 3.0 assists.  He is young, athletic and will be a difficult cover for KG.  He is also a good defender who could make things difficult for KG on the offensive end. 

Game Notes
The Portland Trailblazers make their only visit to Boston as the Celtics look to bounce back from their meltdown against the Nets.  The Celtics won the only meeting between these two teams last year, 104-86 at TD Garden.  The Celtics have won 5 in a row and 12 of the last 13 games from the Blazers.

The Celtics are the only team in the league to have a winning record in the Rose Garden.  Portland is 2-6 on the road while the Celtics are a pedestrian 4-4 at home.  The Blazers are 4-6 in their last 10 games and the Celtics are 6-4 in their last 10. 

Both teams played on Wednesday and both are coming off a loss.  Portland gave the Wizards their very first win on the season while the Celtics lost the game and their cool to the Nets.  After the game, the Celtics were called soft by their coach and I expect them to come out motivated to be aggressive and to get the win. 

The Blazers are a young and athletic team and won't be a pushover by any means.  The Celtics are going to be short handed and stinging from the criticism of their coach. They need to earn this win with strong and smart play on both ends of the court. 

In a bit of trivia,  in the 1985-86 season, the Portland Trailblazers were the only team to beat the Celtics in the Garden all season.

Keys to the Game
Defense - The biggest key to every game will be defense.  The Celtics must make defense their number 1 priority.   They especially have to defend the basket better and keep players from getting tip ins, layups and second chance baskets along with stopping the pick and roll.  The Celtics have been very weak on defense so far this season and they need to make an effort to get better on that end. 

Rebound - When the Celtics put out the effort to out-rebound their opponents it usually results in a win.  But this year, that hasn't been all that often.  When they don't make the effort to rebound, it affects the effort in the other areas as well.  Neither team is a great rebounding team as the Blazers come in at 29th while the Celtics are 30th.   The Celtics have got to make more of an effort to grab rebounds as a team. 

Bench -    The Celtics' bench must give them quality minutes in order to keep the starters from being worn out by the end of the game. It may be difficult in this game if Wilcox and Green are out and Barbosa moves into the starting lineup.  With the roster being thinned out due to injury and suspension,  the remaining players off the bench must contribute. 

Be Aggressive The Celtics must be the more aggressive team.  This doesn't mean aggression like fighting  but they have to be the team diving for loose balls, grabbing rebounds, hustling on the court, and driving to the basket.  They can't let the other team out hustle them and they can't settle for jumpers. 

Move the Ball -   With Rondo out, the Celtics have to work harder to move the ball and find the open man.   They have to pass the ball but at the same time they need to be careful with those passes and avoid turnovers.  They have to make the extra pass and find the open man and not let the ball stick and get stagnant.  Hero ball doesn't win many games. 

X-Factor
Home Court and Celtics Pride
Once again, the Celtics will be at home and need to establish themselves as a strong home team.  They are coming off an embarrassing loss at home to the Nets as they not only lost the game but also lost their cool.  This would be a good time for them to find their Celtics Pride and bounce back.   

Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: action781 on November 29, 2012, 11:37:25 PM
I'd much rather see a Terry-Lee starting backcourt combination with Barbosa coming off the bench.  Curious to see how Doc does this.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Who on November 30, 2012, 07:29:54 AM
I miss Bill Walton. I desperately want another NBA big man who will play like him.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: FLCeltsFan on November 30, 2012, 02:25:08 PM
I miss Bill Walton. I desperately want another NBA big man who will play like him.
Don't we all... I often think of how great he would have been without the foot problems.  TP
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on November 30, 2012, 02:34:01 PM
I may get to see my boy KJ, I really hope Doc gives him a chance!!!!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: FLCeltsFan on November 30, 2012, 04:00:50 PM
Official Report

Bennett Salvatore

Bennett Salvatore has been an official in the NBA for the past 30 seasons, and has worked 1,684 regular season and 203 playoff games including 25 NBA Finals games. The veteran official has also worked the 1993 and 2002 NBA All-Star Games, the 1993 McDonald’s Championship in Munich, Germany, and the 1997 Mexico Challenge. Prior to joining the NBA, Salvatore spent two years officiating in the CBA, and also has 10 years officiating high school. Salvatore missed the entire 2011-12 season with an injury.

Salvatore may just be the worst ref in the league, and that is saying alot. Almost always one team or the other gets an advantage when he is officiating and I'll give you a hint, it usually isn't the Celtics.

Salvatore made one of the most controversial calls in NBA finals history in game 5 of the 2006 finals. The call basically gave the Heat their championship. Here is Bill Simmons' take on the call.

    Salvatore called the foul on Wade's final drive in overtime (remember, the call where ABC couldn't find a replay to show that anyone touched him?) even though he was standing at midcourt a full 35-40 feet from the play, and even though two other refs were closer to the play. Not only was that NOT his call, he butchered it.

Another of Salvatore's "butchered" calls was in the 2008 conference finals when he waved off a contested 3-pointer that Paul Pierce had hoisted over Richard Hamilton, inducing him to leave his feet with a ball fake and land on Pierce's back. Pierce, however, was charged with an offensive foul for creating the contact with Hamilton. The Celtics are 6-4 in their last 10 games with Salvatore. The Blazers are 4-6 in their last 10 games with Salvatore. His home W/L record is 7-4.

Pat Fraher

Pat Fraher has officiated 667 regular season NBA games and 11 Playoff games entering his 12th season. Prior to joining the NBA, Fraher officiated for seven years in the CBA, where he worked the CBA Finals and All-Star game. In addition, Fraher spent four years with the WNBA, where he officiated playoff games in both the WNBA Eastern and Western Conference Finals. Fraher also has two years of collegiate officiating experience with the NSIC and 10 years of experience as a high school official in his home state of Minnesota. He attended the University of Minnesota where he was awarded the Evans Scholarship and graduated with a Bachelor of Science degree in Mechanical Engineering. While at Hastings High School, Fraher was a member of the football, basketball and golf teams.The Celtics are 1-0 this season and 5-5 over their last 10 games with Fraher. He officiated the win over the Bucks where the Celtics took 34 free throws to 26 for the Bucks and the officiating was good. The Blazers are 3-7 over their last 10 games officiated by Fraher. His home W/L record this season is 8-4.

Leroy Richardson

Leroy Richardson served his country for 12 years in the United States Navy (May 1982 – January 1994), and was the 1991 and 1992 Tactragrulant sailor of the year in Dam Neck, Va. He was also awarded the Navy Achievement Medal and two Good Conduct Medals. Richardson was an enlisted surface warfare specialist and underwater sea surveillance specialist, was deployed to the Mediterranean from August 1988 through February 1989 and was stationed in Keflavik, Iceland from April 1986 through May 1987. After leaving the Navy, Richardson decided to pursue officiating full time. Since joining the NBA staff, he has officiated 1,010 regular season games and eight playoff games over the past 17 seasons, and was a member of the crews that officiated the 2000 Schick Rookie Game, 2000 NBA All-Star Saturday and the 2003 Japan Games. Richardson has three years of CBA officiating experience as well as 10 years of Pro-Am officiating experience, including the 1992 Pro Am Nationals. He also has three years of collegiate officiating experience in the Big East, Southeastern and Ohio Valley Conferences. Richardson spent eight years officiating in Virginia high schools, where he worked the VHSL State Tournament.

The Celtics have an 8-2 record in their last 10 games with Richardson as a referee. The last game he officiated for the Celtics was an OT win over Atlanta that was horribly officiated. KG fouled out on a terrible call where the Hawks were holding his jersey and elbowing him in the back and they called the offensive foul on KG. Stiemsma also fouled out with the 5th and 6th fouls coming within seconds of each other and were terrible calls. 12 fouls were called on the Celtics in the 4th quarter to just 4 on the Hawks. In OT they called 4 fouls on the Celtics and none on the Hawks. In an uncharacteristic show of emotion from Danny, he said after the game that he would be sending the tape of the game to the league office because the officiating was so bad. The Blazers are 6-4 in their last 10 with Richardson. He is one of the rare refs with more wins for the road team than the home team. His home W/L record this season is 5-7.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: FLCeltsFan on November 30, 2012, 06:44:49 PM
Sean Grande just said that JET will probably start at the point with CLee at the 2 guard.

Green and Wilcox expected to play


Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on November 30, 2012, 06:49:38 PM
Sean Grande just said that JET will probably start at the point with CLee at the 2 guard.

Green and Wilcox expected to play


Nooooooooooooooooooooo... I wanted to see some KJ tonight!!! Stupid Green for getting well quick (<--- kidding)! I don't want anyone to be injured but sometimes I just want to see someone else get a shot!! We wouldn't have gotten to see AB (prove himself) because of Doc, if not for injuries!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 06:53:58 PM
I'm a Huge KJ fan. 

Green is the one that needs to go to the RED CLAWS and learn to play. ;)
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 07:16:43 PM
Popovich plays everyone till the fail totally.....then deals with the press like belechik would....! Maybe why he has a few rings...!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 07:23:00 PM
rondo was the olny one suspended and wallace came in there looking for blood....humphries was fighting...took rondos shirt....???
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 07:34:11 PM
i hope doc told them to pass it up and move to the ball to avoid the PRESS...!!!!!!!!!11
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: TenaciousD on November 30, 2012, 07:35:04 PM
Less than a swing, but more than a shove. Rondo needs to study the Zen of retaliation.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 30, 2012, 07:37:09 PM
Happy Friday night to all, love Friday games.  I got a case of Sam Adams winter variety and ready to watch C's basketball... it doesn't get better than this.  Only thing that could ruin it is if the C's come out and play horribly again.

I'm interested in the Hickson vs. Bass matchup.  Hopefully Bass can keep him off the boards.  Aldridge will give us problems, but he's not an exceptional rebounder. 

Hopefully the C's respond to Doc's challenge of calling them soft, because that's what we are right now.

Predict that C's will win 99-94.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 30, 2012, 07:42:56 PM
Lets see who steps up tonight
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: butterbeanlove on November 30, 2012, 07:44:16 PM
Looks like the wonderful NBA refs already have some "side bets" on this game.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 07:44:34 PM
rember when the refs were just guys invisible in this league......calling the game...but not controllling it..?
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 30, 2012, 07:45:14 PM
Scal's right - teams have figured out Lillard (and he's probably getting worn down from all the minutes too).  Be interesting to see how he adjusts. 

Shame Rondo's not out here to take advantage, though.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 30, 2012, 07:45:41 PM
rember when the refs were just guys invisible in this league......calling the game...but not controllling it..?

No.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 07:46:25 PM
rember when the refs were just guys invisible in this league......calling the game...but not controllling it..?

No.
okay...I wasn't talking to YOU then.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 07:47:09 PM
Looks like the wonderful NBA refs already have some "side bets" on this game.
as usual..! TP.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 07:48:16 PM
Well, this is a good way to develop backup for rondo....!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 30, 2012, 07:48:44 PM
Our D on the Portland's first possession of the game was picture perfect.  Pretty good so far, but I'm waiting to see what happens when KG subs out.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 07:49:27 PM
yu, and our 3rd quarter lull.....
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: j804 on November 30, 2012, 07:49:45 PM
Our D on the Portland's first possession of the game was picture perfect.  Pretty good so far, but I'm waiting to see what happens when KG subs out.
we always start good though then when KG goes to the bench we fall apart so let's hold our horses
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 07:50:05 PM
look like they are bit more focused.  DA can dump the whole mess of them if they don't shape up
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 07:50:37 PM
well...good doc said that....they league does think the C's are soft.....and they study tape to see that the C's hardly care about rebounds.....
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: j804 on November 30, 2012, 07:52:04 PM
Ughhhh here we go
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 07:52:11 PM
2 sloppy handles in a row by PP.....cannot be lazy and slow....on passes...
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 30, 2012, 07:52:21 PM
What the heck is pierce doing man. All those lazy horrible passes. Turnover machine.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 07:52:29 PM
how many times has Pierce throw the dang ball away????
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 07:53:07 PM
this could be good for lee....make a name for his game tonight..!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 07:54:00 PM
how many times has Pierce throw the dang ball away????
ya, those weak flips intead of crisp passes are always bad...
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Who on November 30, 2012, 07:54:04 PM
Hickson looks much bigger than Bass than I thought he would.

Thicker body. Taller. Longer. More explosive.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Who on November 30, 2012, 07:55:02 PM
Nice play by Sullinger. Probing dribble and controlled pass to set Terry up for the midrange jumper. Great to see a big man with the skill-level to make that type of play.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 07:55:42 PM
I want to see KJ play soooooobad
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 07:56:19 PM
sully ith a re...terry..!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 30, 2012, 07:57:09 PM
Despite how horrible lee has been on offense i never liked terry starting over him for two reasons. Lee plays better defense than terry and terry gives you the same production rather hes in the starting lineup or not.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 07:57:15 PM
i would like t see kj and melo play...but....this isn't San Antonio...!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: hpantazo on November 30, 2012, 07:57:24 PM
Collins playing some very good defense on Aldridge so far.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Who on November 30, 2012, 07:57:45 PM
Very good defense by Collins. Crappy call by the refs.

Terrible spot on the floor for Portland to be giving Aldridge the ball. I had heard Portland's new coach was doing a lousy of job of getting Aldridge touches in effective situations. Treating him like Dirk Nowitzki.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 07:58:11 PM
Lee wants action....GET ME THE BALL...!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 07:58:53 PM
pp is a little odd.....iso's are gone....
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 07:59:19 PM
Pierce ....wa up wif ???
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 07:59:39 PM
we are again a team short on big men......
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 08:00:33 PM
the young kids can play.....
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: lon3lytoaster on November 30, 2012, 08:00:43 PM
Refs never call that offensive hook.. That wasn't a big one by Aldridge, but still.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: lon3lytoaster on November 30, 2012, 08:01:26 PM
And Sully is earning binky status
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 08:02:24 PM
sully got  better matchup than the floppers on the nets he was up against
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: manl_lui on November 30, 2012, 08:02:37 PM
who's #11? He sure isn't the Courtney Lee I saw in the beginning of the season

This guy is crashing the boards, and scoring, playing good D :)
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Big Rondo on November 30, 2012, 08:04:33 PM
When Rondo is out of the game, this team actually moves the ball. Go figure  ::)
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 08:04:54 PM
LEE-DER..!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: lon3lytoaster on November 30, 2012, 08:05:41 PM
Lee's offensive.. Jeez.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: blink on November 30, 2012, 08:06:19 PM
I love CLee's hustle and effort, but man, we gotta find a way to get him more comfortable shooting 3s.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 08:06:30 PM
He..Sasha....!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: manl_lui on November 30, 2012, 08:06:36 PM
wow Collins is fouling like theres no tomorrow...

we finally found a Mikki Moore replacement!

both 7 footers and utterly useless
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Who on November 30, 2012, 08:07:07 PM
Ugh ... ugly play from Barbosa. Ball-stopper.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 08:07:27 PM
sully..cannot live on those tip ins...gotta own most of them 1st....
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 30, 2012, 08:08:21 PM
Nice first quarter...
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 08:08:59 PM
yep, box out pull it down and go back up.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on November 30, 2012, 08:09:15 PM
Pierce being a jack of all trades so far wit da assist nd rebounds i expect him to look for his shot later tho
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: hpantazo on November 30, 2012, 08:14:57 PM
WOW!!! GREEN!!!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 30, 2012, 08:15:03 PM
Now THAT was impressive.  He looked aggressive the moment he had the ball.  more of that.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: lon3lytoaster on November 30, 2012, 08:15:15 PM
Ill be happy when Jeff realizes that he can do that all the time..
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: manl_lui on November 30, 2012, 08:15:26 PM
JEFF GREEEEEN!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 08:15:43 PM
finally Green using his magnificant body
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 30, 2012, 08:16:17 PM
Has he arrived? 

Sort of kidding, but 2 nice plays in a row.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: manl_lui on November 30, 2012, 08:16:24 PM
I'll be satisfied if Jeff can do that once every game  ;D

according to 2k13, players with posterization skills increases team play by 10! :)
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: rondohondo on November 30, 2012, 08:16:54 PM
why can't green do this more often ???
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: blink on November 30, 2012, 08:16:59 PM
J Green.  Yes You can do it!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: TenaciousD on November 30, 2012, 08:17:13 PM
When Rondo is out of the game, this team actually moves the ball. Go figure  ::)
Not waiting on the Artist to Create. Anyway, like the balanced scoring...
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: crownsy on November 30, 2012, 08:17:20 PM
God, If we could just get this Jeff Green full time, he'd be a bargain at 8 Mill.

STAY AGGRESSIVE JEFF! PLEASE!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 08:17:24 PM
Green can do that about anytime he wants ....IF HE WILL JUST go at it like he means it.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: mr. dee on November 30, 2012, 08:17:39 PM
He is really good when he is on. Kinda reminds me of Rondo of the past seasons..
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 30, 2012, 08:17:48 PM
If only green could do this consistently.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on November 30, 2012, 08:17:54 PM
Green fried Jared Jeffries for trynna jump wit him just look for ya shot bruh dats all we want
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Lord of Mikawa on November 30, 2012, 08:18:14 PM
It's time for The C's to put their foot on the neck of Blazers.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 08:19:12 PM
If only green could do this consistently.

Thats the key...if he don't he gonna be traded.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: lon3lytoaster on November 30, 2012, 08:20:20 PM
Jeff green clap clap clap
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 08:21:03 PM
Jeff is amazing when his mind is focused
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 08:21:47 PM
wamt see KJ balln
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 30, 2012, 08:23:08 PM
Really excited about Sully's improvement the last week or so.  He looks a lot more comfortable, and is learning what he can and can't do on the court at this level. 

Plus he's shutting down the "Doc won't play rookies" talk, for awhile at least... :)
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 08:23:31 PM
sully given it up
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: blink on November 30, 2012, 08:24:49 PM
that was a cheap one on KG...sheeesh
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 30, 2012, 08:25:47 PM
Refs taking over the game right now.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: blink on November 30, 2012, 08:26:43 PM
the C's playing some MUCH better team D in this game.  KG is playing great d in the 1st half.  Way better effort from the team.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 08:27:55 PM
sully!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: manl_lui on November 30, 2012, 08:28:47 PM
When Rondo is out of the game, this team actually moves the ball. Go figure  ::)
Not waiting on the Artist to Create. Anyway, like the balanced scoring...

how much you wanna bet people are gonna start making "trade Rondo" threads after this game  :)
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: hpantazo on November 30, 2012, 08:29:21 PM
Sullinger is a true celtic. ! hope we keep him for a long time.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 30, 2012, 08:30:25 PM
We look better without rondo? lol.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 08:31:39 PM
Sullinger is a true celtic. ! hope we keep him for a long time.

true dat....boy old school
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: crownsy on November 30, 2012, 08:32:21 PM
Love Tommy, but he's so Hypocritical, If the Celtics did that he'd be talking about how the commish should keep his nose out of coaching decisions.

What Tommy's really upset about is that the spurs did it against the heat  ;)
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: TenaciousD on November 30, 2012, 08:32:33 PM
Well, this is fun.  Come half-time, we can discuss the Elephant in the Room: are they playing out of their heads (a one-off) or are they actually better off as is?

Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 08:35:30 PM
I think AB's 's goal is toio be a better point guard and take the pressure off ROndo


Fixing Greens HEAD is the big issue
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 30, 2012, 08:35:55 PM
Green doing it all.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: lightspeed5 on November 30, 2012, 08:36:21 PM
jeff green  ;D

10 pts in 10 min
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Interceptor on November 30, 2012, 08:36:47 PM
So... what JG is saying is that he wants Rondo to get traded?  ???
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Change on November 30, 2012, 08:37:35 PM
Doc can learn a lot from this game.

1) Terry needs the ball in his hands period.
2) Pierce+Green at the wing advantage Celtics
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 08:38:29 PM
So... what JG is saying is that he wants Rondo to get traded?  ???

Naw...need Rondo to get Josh Smith
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: manl_lui on November 30, 2012, 08:39:20 PM
Doc can learn a lot from this game.

1) Terry needs the ball in his hands period.
2) Pierce+Green at the wing advantage Celtics

I 2nd that, Lee also deserves more minutes
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: crimson_stallion on November 30, 2012, 08:40:10 PM
I hate to say this, but our defense is SO much better without Rondo that it's not even funny...

At least it is until KG sits down  ;D
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: lon3lytoaster on November 30, 2012, 08:40:21 PM
Jeff needed to work on Lillard that time instead of going to Paul
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 08:40:44 PM
they are finally playing Defense.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Interceptor on November 30, 2012, 08:41:03 PM
I have to say that I'm kind of impressed with Pierce + Green at the same time.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 08:41:31 PM
Leave Pierce on the bench and let Green work
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: TenaciousD on November 30, 2012, 08:41:50 PM
I hate to say this, but our defense is SO much better without Rondo that it's not even funny...
Its about that elephant in the room...
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: hpantazo on November 30, 2012, 08:43:24 PM
Green has taken over!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: lon3lytoaster on November 30, 2012, 08:43:43 PM
Oh wow.. I thought Jeff was about to murder Aldridge with a dunk.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 08:43:52 PM
jeff green can be a real machine.....either score or get the others in foul trouble...!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: manl_lui on November 30, 2012, 08:43:55 PM
wow, I really wanted Jeff Green to dunk that!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Interceptor on November 30, 2012, 08:43:59 PM
Nice defense by Sully, too.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 08:44:06 PM
we are FINALLY getting points in the paint ..easier buckets, instead of those ------ jump shots
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 30, 2012, 08:44:42 PM
JG haters will shut up for at least a day.

This is why you don't get too down on him, you can see the capabilities he possesses.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Change on November 30, 2012, 08:44:54 PM
Doc can learn a lot from this game.

1) Terry needs the ball in his hands period.
2) Pierce+Green at the wing advantage Celtics

I 2nd that, Lee also deserves more minutes

Yes.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 08:45:02 PM
Nice defense by Sully, too.


YES !! I thought I noticed that too
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: tgreanier on November 30, 2012, 08:45:21 PM
So on a night where Jeff Green came to play, now the sentiment is growing that we don't need Rondo? lol. Wow.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: CelticSooner on November 30, 2012, 08:45:36 PM
Sounds like Green is playing well tonight.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: tonyto3690 on November 30, 2012, 08:45:40 PM
I hate to say this, but our defense is SO much better without Rondo that it's not even funny...
Its about that elephant in the room...

The problem isn't Rondo.  The solution is Portland.


Anyways, I love love love love what Doc/KG/Pierce are doing.

Force the ball to Green.  Give it to him and get him going.  Is it a coincidence Green looks great, attacking the rim, making shots, drawing fouls when he's being given the ball and given a chance to not worry about deferring?   Guy looks like a new man right now. 

Earlier in the quarter.  KG was in the high post.  Probably could have taken that for himself.  Clock had about 6 seconds left.  He passed it to Green, Green didn't settle.  Drove right to the rim.  Got a layup.

This is what we need more of.  Attack attack attack.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 08:45:53 PM
I hate to say this, but our defense is SO much better without Rondo that it's not even funny...
Its about that elephant in the room...
rondo can play defense, but seems to not care for it..and would rather play the poke away D....instead of squaring in front of HIS man....who is the tony parkers of the league that torch us because rondo lets them go by...
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: vinnie on November 30, 2012, 08:46:42 PM
A good old fashioned butt whipping and green playing out of his mind. Fun game to be at. Rajon who?
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Chief on November 30, 2012, 08:46:49 PM
jeff green can be a real machine.....either score or get the others in foul trouble...!

but only at sf
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Change on November 30, 2012, 08:47:05 PM
Beautiful Ball Movement. Oh how I missed you.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: European NBA fan on November 30, 2012, 08:48:52 PM
Blazers is a very soft team this season. But big credit to the Celtics for making them look like a D League team with one all star player. 
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 30, 2012, 08:49:35 PM
Green with a great half.  Fools gold or turning  a corner?  Time will tell -- will be great to see him put a couple of good games together.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: TenaciousD on November 30, 2012, 08:50:04 PM
I hate to say this, but our defense is SO much better without Rondo that it's not even funny...
rondo..would rather play the poke away
There you go. More than adrenaline
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: The_Truth on November 30, 2012, 08:50:28 PM
Excited to see this lineup come playoff time:

Garnett
Bass
Green
Bradley
Rondo



Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Mr Green on November 30, 2012, 08:50:42 PM
Man this is beautiful! Blood is in the water now, go for the throat Cs, hack the bone, HACK THE BOOOOOOOONE!!  ;D
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: vinnie on November 30, 2012, 08:50:53 PM
The Blazers are bad, but the defense is markedly better tonight.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 30, 2012, 08:51:10 PM
A good old fashioned butt whipping and green playing out of his mind. Fun game to be at. Rajon who?

Stop lol.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Change on November 30, 2012, 08:51:14 PM
I hate to say this, but our defense is SO much better without Rondo that it's not even funny...
Its about that elephant in the room...

Doc needs to hold him accountable on defense. Matador defense is detrimental to the team
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 08:51:43 PM
Man this is beautiful! Blood is in the water now, go for the throat Cs, hack the bone, HACK THE BOOOOOOOONE!!  ;D

TP  ;D
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 30, 2012, 08:52:32 PM
Beautiful Ball Movement. Oh how I missed you.

TP.  Ball moves much better without Rondo, even if our offense has been good with him.  There's no coincidence.  Our offense looks incredibly deliberate at many times when Rondo is on the floor.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 08:53:34 PM
Beautiful Ball Movement. Oh how I missed you.

TP.  Ball moves much better without Rondo, even if our offense has been good with him.  There's no coincidence.  Our offense looks incredibly deliberate at many times when Rondo is on the floor.

Love Rondo...but you make a good point
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Chief on November 30, 2012, 08:55:05 PM
What was up with Collins playing? He is terrible. I just assummed Wilcox was still hurt. But wouldn't you know it, Wilcox played behind him.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: tonyto3690 on November 30, 2012, 08:55:08 PM
Beautiful Ball Movement. Oh how I missed you.

TP.  Ball moves much better without Rondo, even if our offense has been good with him.  There's no coincidence.  Our offense looks incredibly deliberate at many times when Rondo is on the floor.

I get what you're saying, but I'll take a wide open KG/Bass pick and pop jump shot any day, every day, all day.

The difference tonight is that Green is being much more aggressive and being fed the ball and Terry is given more reigns to play as the playmaker and not just a spot up shooter.  His penetration is helping us tremendously.

Also Sullinger is probably having his best game of his career tonight doesn't hurt.

Even Lee is playing well.

Lets not forget this is the trailblazers people.  They are going to be looking for the #1 lotto pick come draft day.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Change on November 30, 2012, 08:55:47 PM
Green with a great half.  Fools gold or turning  a corner?  Time will tell -- will be great to see him put a couple of good games together.

It comes down to getting more touches. If you give talented players more touches, more often than not they will score more points. Its not rocket science. Terry looking great also.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 30, 2012, 08:56:37 PM
This is the second game in a row our offense has looked just fine and in some cases better without rondo. If we do it again next game then i mean.......this can't be ignored. I love rondo and obviously we're good with him too. However, we do not need the ball in his hands 95percent of the time.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: bello_man09 on November 30, 2012, 08:58:00 PM
This is the second game in a row our offense has looked just fine and in some cases better without rondo. If we do it again next game then i mean.......this can't be ignored. I love rondo and obviously we're good with him too. However, we do not need the ball in his hands 95percent of the time.

I agree with this...
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 30, 2012, 08:58:04 PM
Beautiful Ball Movement. Oh how I missed you.

TP.  Ball moves much better without Rondo, even if our offense has been good with him.  There's no coincidence.  Our offense looks incredibly deliberate at many times when Rondo is on the floor.

I get what you're saying, but I'll take a wide open KG/Bass pick and pop jump shot any day, every day, all day.

The difference tonight is that Green is being much more aggressive and being fed the ball and Terry is given more reigns to play as the playmaker and not just a spot up shooter.  His penetration is helping us tremendously.

Also Sullinger is probably having his best game of his career tonight doesn't hurt.

Even Lee is playing well.

Lets not forget this is the trailblazers people.  They are going to be looking for the #1 lotto pick come draft day.

Like I said, it's not a coincidence.  The ball moves when it's not stuck in Rondo's hands for 12+ seconds of the shot clock.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing Rondo - this team has no shot at playoff success without him.  But the ball needs to move better, regardless if it's the Blazers poor defense or not.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Interceptor on November 30, 2012, 08:58:31 PM
However, we do not need the ball in his hands 95percent of the time.
True in a lot of circumstances, but I think we'll be happy with this when games slow down for the playoffs.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 08:59:46 PM
Beautiful Ball Movement. Oh how I missed you.

TP.  Ball moves much better without Rondo, even if our offense has been good with him.  There's no coincidence.  Our offense looks incredibly deliberate at many times when Rondo is on the floor.

I get what you're saying, but I'll take a wide open KG/Bass pick and pop jump shot any day, every day, all day.

The difference tonight is that Green is being much more aggressive and being fed the ball and Terry is given more reigns to play as the playmaker and not just a spot up shooter.  His penetration is helping us tremendously.

Also Sullinger is probably having his best game of his career tonight doesn't hurt.

Even Lee is playing well.

Lets not forget this is the trailblazers people.  They are going to be looking for the #1 lotto pick come draft day.

Like I said, it's not a coincidence.  The ball moves when it's not stuck in Rondo's hands for 12+ seconds of the shot clock.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing Rondo - this team has no shot at playoff success without him.  But the ball needs to move better, regardless if it's the Blazers poor defense or not.


Yes... Rondo needs to play less minutes when Bradley comes abck....Rondo is being played too much ,  I think he tires
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Change on November 30, 2012, 09:03:08 PM
This is the second game in a row our offense has looked just fine and in some cases better without rondo. If we do it again next game then i mean.......this can't be ignored. I love rondo and obviously we're good with him too. However, we do not need the ball in his hands 95percent of the time.

Don't expect any changes. Doc has one way of doing things. He rarely he strays away from his "system". Hopefully sooner than later he reconsiders how he uses Terry and Green. The system needs tweaking to bring the best out of these two players.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: bfrombleacher on November 30, 2012, 09:03:33 PM
Beautiful Ball Movement. Oh how I missed you.

TP.  Ball moves much better without Rondo, even if our offense has been good with him.  There's no coincidence.  Our offense looks incredibly deliberate at many times when Rondo is on the floor.

Is that on Rondo? Or on Doc?

Doc makes the plays.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 09:03:39 PM
guess kj and melo won't play....
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: European NBA fan on November 30, 2012, 09:06:06 PM
Beautiful Ball Movement. Oh how I missed you.

TP.  Ball moves much better without Rondo, even if our offense has been good with him.  There's no coincidence.  Our offense looks incredibly deliberate at many times when Rondo is on the floor.

I get what you're saying, but I'll take a wide open KG/Bass pick and pop jump shot any day, every day, all day.

The difference tonight is that Green is being much more aggressive and being fed the ball and Terry is given more reigns to play as the playmaker and not just a spot up shooter.  His penetration is helping us tremendously.

Also Sullinger is probably having his best game of his career tonight doesn't hurt.

Even Lee is playing well.

Lets not forget this is the trailblazers people.  They are going to be looking for the #1 lotto pick come draft day.

Like I said, it's not a coincidence.  The ball moves when it's not stuck in Rondo's hands for 12+ seconds of the shot clock.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing Rondo - this team has no shot at playoff success without him.  But the ball needs to move better, regardless if it's the Blazers poor defense or not.

It depends a lot on the opposition. But yes, we need ball movement when Rondo is on the floor, too. If only to get the whole team involved. 
We only started the Rondolution last spring (Rondo being allowed to freelance the offense most of the time), so he probably still has to find the balance.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 09:06:48 PM
one thing though..rondo wouldn't get that call.....oh ya, he bumped a ref a year ago...he'll never get the call again.....
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 09:06:56 PM
Lee could do that 10 times a game too ... ::)  if he just would  :-X
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 09:08:09 PM
Bass is off tonight , PUT GREEN in and let him work
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 09:08:18 PM
Lee could do that 10 times a game too ... ::)  if he just would  :-X
yo mean THAT...?
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: tonyto3690 on November 30, 2012, 09:08:38 PM
This is the second game in a row our offense has looked just fine and in some cases better without rondo. If we do it again next game then i mean.......this can't be ignored. I love rondo and obviously we're good with him too. However, we do not need the ball in his hands 95percent of the time.

I agree with this...

It's two games.  We're playing a garbage team at home immediately after Doc ripped the team to the media for being soft and not playing aggressively.

We would be demolishing them with or without Rondo.  They were not winning tonight after what happened this past week. 

Green, Lee, Sullinger all having their best games of the year is because we're playing the Trailblazers, not because Rondo is out.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 09:11:09 PM
Lee could do that 10 times a game too ... ::)  if he just would  :-X
yo mean THAT...?

Yup...when Lee drives hard to the rim good things usually happen
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 09:11:28 PM
pp gotta keep moving the ball...
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 09:12:00 PM
Lee could do that 10 times a game too ... ::)  if he just would  :-X
yo mean THAT...?
this will be good for him...solidify his spot maybe...

Yup...when Lee drives hard to the rim good things usually happen
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 09:12:55 PM
kg, that was nice...
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 09:13:16 PM
wow KG looking 30 again
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Chief on November 30, 2012, 09:13:40 PM
I love when KG uses the glass. Nothing better than a bank shot.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 09:14:00 PM
time to unleash KJ
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 30, 2012, 09:14:43 PM
hopefully getting 30 too..!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: TenaciousD on November 30, 2012, 09:15:17 PM
"The difference tonight is that Green is being much more aggressive and being fed the ball"

No coincidence. Not standing around waiting during the Pounding of the Ball.

"and Terry is given more reigns to play as the playmaker and not just a spot up shooter" 

Using JT as Ray Jesus Mak II would not seem to be the ideal strategy
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Change on November 30, 2012, 09:15:26 PM
This is the second game in a row our offense has looked just fine and in some cases better without rondo. If we do it again next game then i mean.......this can't be ignored. I love rondo and obviously we're good with him too. However, we do not need the ball in his hands 95percent of the time.

I agree with this...

It's two games.  We're playing a garbage team at home immediately after Doc ripped the team to the media for being soft and not playing aggressively.

We would be demolishing them with or without Rondo.  They were not winning tonight after what happened this past week. 

Green, Lee, Sullinger all having their best games of the year is because we're playing the Trailblazers, not because Rondo is out.

Its not an anomaly Celtics are playing great basketball minus Rondo. In fact, Celtics have a winning record without Rondo. The Last game Celtics were without Rondo was an away against Brooklyn Nets. A game which they nearly won. Couple of mental errors at the end cost C's the game.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: albas89 on November 30, 2012, 09:16:53 PM
Well, I was expecting this kind of effort from the C's tonight after what happened last game, but man, Blazers suck big time!! when their offensive game is off, they are trully awful and they have the worst bench in the league...
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: lightspeed5 on November 30, 2012, 09:18:14 PM
when is courtney lee going to impress me?
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Chief on November 30, 2012, 09:20:19 PM
when is courtney lee going to impress me?

When he gets traded for a good big man.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Interceptor on November 30, 2012, 09:20:50 PM
when is courtney lee going to impress me?
Probably never if you're looking for scoring, but as far as defense/hustle goes, I'm impressed.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 30, 2012, 09:21:23 PM
when is courtney lee going to impress me?

When you stop focusing on his offensive struggles and realize other good things he's doing on the floor?  He's one of the few Celtics that I can say has been playing with high energy, regardless of whether he is playing well or not.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: tgreanier on November 30, 2012, 09:23:02 PM
when is courtney lee going to impress me?

I think you should turn on your tv. He is playing great tonight.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: lightspeed5 on November 30, 2012, 09:25:45 PM
jeff green played point in the last possession.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Interceptor on November 30, 2012, 09:27:54 PM
He must be putting together a video. Maybe in the 4th quarter he plays some center.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 30, 2012, 09:29:49 PM
Courtney lee has impressed me tonight. Idk what game you guys are watching.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: European NBA fan on November 30, 2012, 09:30:17 PM
Anyone wondering why Collins hasn't been playing that much? He is probably rusty, but it seems like it would take a lot of oil to get his engine running.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: slamtheking on November 30, 2012, 09:30:28 PM
the first half was the best half of basketball I've seen this team play this year.   3rd quarter was too sloppy and they stopped moving the ball in the last part of it.  need to get back to moving the ball on offense.  Collins is killing them on D too.  Need Wilcox.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 30, 2012, 09:30:40 PM
Hate to be critical of Green tonight, but when he got his own miss a couple minutes ago he should have gone right up hard to the hoop. No reason not to.  Instead he flipped it up casually and not accurately.  C's can be in a game now if Blazers get hot.  C's potentially in some foul trouble.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: TenaciousD on November 30, 2012, 09:30:42 PM
Lee could do that 10 times a game too ... ::)  if he just would  :-X

Rondo is an Artiste with the ball. But in doing so, he may be hogtying the club's other assets.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: tonyto3690 on November 30, 2012, 09:32:19 PM
Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.mit.

We freaking act like the game is over and now the lead is back to 16 and KG has to come back in.

What a freaking joke.  End the game before the fourth quarter.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: lightspeed5 on November 30, 2012, 09:34:33 PM
holy clutch green
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: tgreanier on November 30, 2012, 09:34:49 PM
****mit.

We freaking act like the game is over and now the lead is back to 16 and KG has to come back in.

What a freaking joke.  End the game before the fourth quarter.

You were saying?
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Interceptor on November 30, 2012, 09:34:58 PM
Hahaha, I love how the camera immediately cuts to Doc the second that JG makes that three.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 30, 2012, 09:35:08 PM
Sullinger huge in the last few minutes on the boards. Good game all around.

Green is engaged.  Nice to see him with a big game.  Get 20 Jeff.

Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: slamtheking on November 30, 2012, 09:35:44 PM
liking Sully's efforts on the boards.  never stops going for the ball.

finally seeing the team hit some 3's.  makes a big difference on offense.  also helps that guys are taking their shots when they're open instead of trying to be the 'goo teammate' and constantly forcing bad passes to not look like a ballhog (of course Barbosa has never fit into that mold since joining)
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 09:36:07 PM
boy Sully getting da boards tonight  ;D
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: tonyto3690 on November 30, 2012, 09:36:31 PM
****mit.

We freaking act like the game is over and now the lead is back to 16 and KG has to come back in.

What a freaking joke.  End the game before the fourth quarter.

You were saying?

Does the Celtics pushing the lead back up to 18 erase the fact they played like crap in the third and KG had to play in the fourth?

Once KG gets that mileage back, let me know.  Until then you're just being a punk and an idiot.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 09:37:14 PM
This team gotta keep movin ball. when da stop it all goes to ---
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: tgreanier on November 30, 2012, 09:37:49 PM
****mit.

We freaking act like the game is over and now the lead is back to 16 and KG has to come back in.

What a freaking joke.  End the game before the fourth quarter.

You were saying?

Does the Celtics pushing the lead back up to 18 erase the fact they played like crap in the third and KG had to play in the fourth?

Once KG gets that mileage back, let me know.  Until then you're just being a punk and an idiot.

Nice. Youre a joy.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: slamtheking on November 30, 2012, 09:38:06 PM
bad call.  was not in front of Green
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 30, 2012, 09:38:19 PM
Questionable call.  Green has scored every which way tonight.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: slamtheking on November 30, 2012, 09:39:14 PM
nice to get something out of nothing there
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Atzar on November 30, 2012, 09:39:41 PM
****mit.

We freaking act like the game is over and now the lead is back to 16 and KG has to come back in.

What a freaking joke.  End the game before the fourth quarter.

You were saying?

Does the Celtics pushing the lead back up to 18 erase the fact they played like crap in the third and KG had to play in the fourth?

Once KG gets that mileage back, let me know.  Until then you're just being a punk and an idiot.

Unnecessary in my opinion.  Especially on a night when KG has played 23 minutes.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 30, 2012, 09:40:58 PM
Someone chose the wrong night to start a negative thread on Lee and Green.  Nice game for both tonight.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Change on November 30, 2012, 09:41:19 PM
****mit.

We freaking act like the game is over and now the lead is back to 16 and KG has to come back in.

What a freaking joke.  End the game before the fourth quarter.

You were saying?

Does the Celtics pushing the lead back up to 18 erase the fact they played like crap in the third and KG had to play in the fourth?

Once KG gets that mileage back, let me know.  Until then you're just being a punk and an idiot.

Its the nba. Every team makes a run at some point.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 09:42:18 PM
 ;D   freshman power...SULLY GOT GAME
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: tonyto3690 on November 30, 2012, 09:44:02 PM
****mit.

We freaking act like the game is over and now the lead is back to 16 and KG has to come back in.

What a freaking joke.  End the game before the fourth quarter.

You were saying?

Does the Celtics pushing the lead back up to 18 erase the fact they played like crap in the third and KG had to play in the fourth?

Once KG gets that mileage back, let me know.  Until then you're just being a punk and an idiot.

Unnecessary in my opinion.  Especially on a night when KG has played 23 minutes.

That's not the point.

The point was I was stating how the Celtics did themselves a disservice by letting the Trailblazers think they could get back in it.  KG had to come in and voila the lead goes back up.  None of that should have been a surprise and it's to be expected.

He was just being a wise @ss trying to point out I was wrong when anything after KG came in is irrelevant.  The Celtics could have gone on a 300-0 run in the five minutes KG was in.  KG should not have had to come back in.  You rest him as much as possible.  Every minute, every second counts.  He's not a young man anymore.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: slamtheking on November 30, 2012, 09:45:22 PM
hey, a Kris Joseph moment.  let's see what this kid can do in a few minutes
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Scottie on November 30, 2012, 09:45:46 PM
We have to be able to figure out a way to blame Rondo for us outrebounding them tonight right?


Oh I think I have it. We're a better defensive team without him which makes the opposition miss more shots which makes more rebounds available to us. Similarly, we are a better offensive team without him and we shoot better, meaning less rebounds for the opposition.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: mr. dee on November 30, 2012, 09:45:46 PM
Kris Joseph sighting  :)
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: slamtheking on November 30, 2012, 09:47:31 PM
getting very sloppy now.  need to clean it up and close them out
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: tgreanier on November 30, 2012, 09:48:22 PM
****mit.

We freaking act like the game is over and now the lead is back to 16 and KG has to come back in.

What a freaking joke.  End the game before the fourth quarter.

You were saying?

Does the Celtics pushing the lead back up to 18 erase the fact they played like crap in the third and KG had to play in the fourth?

Once KG gets that mileage back, let me know.  Until then you're just being a punk and an idiot.

Unnecessary in my opinion.  Especially on a night when KG has played 23 minutes.

That's not the point.

The point was I was stating how the Celtics did themselves a disservice by letting the Trailblazers think they could get back in it.  KG had to come in and voila the lead goes back up.  None of that should have been a surprise and it's to be expected.

He was just being a wise @ss trying to point out I was wrong when anything after KG came in is irrelevant.  The Celtics could have gone on a 300-0 run in the five minutes KG was in.  KG should not have had to come back in.  You rest him as much as possible.  Every minute, every second counts.  He's not a young man anymore.

I was not in any way being anything you suggest. I just assumed you were as pleasantly surprised by what happened on the scoreboard as me. But it is all good, you made yourself clear. I will not butt in on your whining any more, you have my word.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Interceptor on November 30, 2012, 09:48:25 PM
aaaaaand a high school game breaks out at the Garden.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: mr. dee on November 30, 2012, 09:49:29 PM
It's Gino time!  ;D
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: CelticSooner on November 30, 2012, 09:50:44 PM
KG is like a kid in a candy store when it's Gino time.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: tonyto3690 on November 30, 2012, 09:52:24 PM
****mit.

We freaking act like the game is over and now the lead is back to 16 and KG has to come back in.

What a freaking joke.  End the game before the fourth quarter.

You were saying?

Does the Celtics pushing the lead back up to 18 erase the fact they played like crap in the third and KG had to play in the fourth?

Once KG gets that mileage back, let me know.  Until then you're just being a punk and an idiot.

Unnecessary in my opinion.  Especially on a night when KG has played 23 minutes.

That's not the point.

The point was I was stating how the Celtics did themselves a disservice by letting the Trailblazers think they could get back in it.  KG had to come in and voila the lead goes back up.  None of that should have been a surprise and it's to be expected.

He was just being a wise @ss trying to point out I was wrong when anything after KG came in is irrelevant.  The Celtics could have gone on a 300-0 run in the five minutes KG was in.  KG should not have had to come back in.  You rest him as much as possible.  Every minute, every second counts.  He's not a young man anymore.

I was not in any way being anything you suggest. I just assumed you were as pleasantly surprised by what happened on the scoreboard as me. But it is all good, you made yourself clear. I will not butt in on your whining any more, you have my word.

Yeah okay, guy.  Your reading comprehension was off.  It's okay.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Change on November 30, 2012, 09:52:29 PM
Barton kid is street baller disguising as nba player.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Change on November 30, 2012, 09:53:39 PM
Kris Joseph AKA Pierce Jr. imitating the captain there.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Scottie on November 30, 2012, 09:53:55 PM
I'm really looking forward to the career of Sullinger. He's my kind of player.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on November 30, 2012, 09:56:14 PM
Didn't get a chance to watch the game but just looking at the numbers..

bass had 1 reb in 17 mins?

Lee played the all-around style game he's been known for throughout his career and got a ton of minutes to boot 35+.

Sully is figuring out this nba thing

JT continues his great play

Jeff green CAN do this more often than he does
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: slamtheking on November 30, 2012, 09:56:17 PM
I like what I saw from this team tonight but man is Portland bad.  hard to believe they were projected to be a top team a few years ago with a healthy Roy and Oden (after that draft) to go with Aldridge.  They must be crying in Portland
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Swoopz on November 30, 2012, 09:57:10 PM
****mit.

We freaking act like the game is over and now the lead is back to 16 and KG has to come back in.

What a freaking joke.  End the game before the fourth quarter.

You were saying?

Does the Celtics pushing the lead back up to 18 erase the fact they played like crap in the third and KG had to play in the fourth?

Once KG gets that mileage back, let me know.  Until then you're just being a punk and an idiot.

Unnecessary in my opinion.  Especially on a night when KG has played 23 minutes.

That's not the point.

The point was I was stating how the Celtics did themselves a disservice by letting the Trailblazers think they could get back in it.  KG had to come in and voila the lead goes back up.  None of that should have been a surprise and it's to be expected.

He was just being a wise @ss trying to point out I was wrong when anything after KG came in is irrelevant.  The Celtics could have gone on a 300-0 run in the five minutes KG was in.  KG should not have had to come back in.  You rest him as much as possible.  Every minute, every second counts.  He's not a young man anymore.

I was not in any way being anything you suggest. I just assumed you were as pleasantly surprised by what happened on the scoreboard as me. But it is all good, you made yourself clear. I will not butt in on your whining any more, you have my word.

Yeah okay, guy.  Your reading comprehension was off.  It's okay.

Stop
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Lord of Mikawa on November 30, 2012, 09:58:07 PM
Fighting amongst us aside, TP's for all. LET IT RAIN
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on November 30, 2012, 09:59:04 PM
Scal for MVP!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 30, 2012, 09:59:14 PM
I like what I saw from this team tonight but man is Portland bad.  hard to believe they were projected to be a top team a few years ago with a healthy Roy and Oden (after that draft) to go with Aldridge.  They must be crying in Portland

Agreed, they really were unfortunate.  I like Portland's team too.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: jimmehx on November 30, 2012, 09:59:28 PM
I love seeing scal with the broadcast. Amazing!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: European NBA fan on November 30, 2012, 10:00:36 PM
I want Scal to do post-game interviews with KG after every game!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 10:02:33 PM
Bass was off tonight,  but thats ok,  GREEN finally stepped up  and Sully played his tail off.

Green ,Bass , Sully...... when any two of these play great we will win most nights. 
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on November 30, 2012, 10:03:26 PM
Someone chose the wrong night to start a negative thread on Lee and Green.  Nice game for both tonight.

that thread was started long ago...

Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: slamtheking on November 30, 2012, 10:03:32 PM
I love seeing scal with the broadcast. Amazing!
I think we're looking at Tommy's replacement when he retires.  Have to admit I like him better than Max (and it goes without saying Donny sucks)
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Atzar on November 30, 2012, 10:03:43 PM
Bass was off tonight,  but thats ok,  GREEN finally stepped up  and Sully played his tail off.

Green ,Bass , Sully...... when any two of these play great we will win most nights.

Agree.  The Jeff Green that showed up tonight is worth that contract.  Hope we see this version more often.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: slamtheking on November 30, 2012, 10:05:27 PM
Bass was off tonight,  but thats ok,  GREEN finally stepped up  and Sully played his tail off.

Green ,Bass , Sully...... when any two of these play great we will win most nights.

Agree.  The Jeff Green that showed up tonight is worth that contract.  Hope we see this version more often.
agree with that -- if this is how he plays out the year, I have no argument with that contract
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: esel1000 on November 30, 2012, 10:05:37 PM
loved green tonight. im convinced sully will be a double double player for his career
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: jdz101 on November 30, 2012, 10:14:40 PM
Bass was off tonight,  but thats ok,  GREEN finally stepped up  and Sully played his tail off.

Green ,Bass , Sully...... when any two of these play great we will win most nights.

Green has had 3 or 4 of these sorts of games this year..

Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 10:28:38 PM
I think something was exposed tonight,  Rondo needs to play less minutes and not hold the ball, but keep it moving .   The Celtics just fall apart when the ball ceases to move/
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Cman on November 30, 2012, 10:35:21 PM
Question for those that saw the game. How did K Joseph look?
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 30, 2012, 10:38:39 PM
Question for those that saw the game. How did K Joseph look?

Like a rookie.  Made strong moves to the rim but with poor results except for one foul, which led to 2 of his points.  Good energy though.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Atzar on November 30, 2012, 10:45:22 PM
I think something was exposed tonight,  Rondo needs to play less minutes and not hold the ball, but keep it moving .   The Celtics just fall apart when the ball ceases to move/

I don't think Rondo needs to play less.  He just needs to stop being a liability on defense.  The way he plays on that end of the floor is a large part of our defensive problems in my opinion.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: crimson_stallion on November 30, 2012, 10:47:06 PM
That's not the point.

The point was I was stating how the Celtics did themselves a disservice by letting the Trailblazers think they could get back in it.  KG had to come in and voila the lead goes back up.  None of that should have been a surprise and it's to be expected.

He was just being a wise @ss trying to point out I was wrong when anything after KG came in is irrelevant.

Actually you are just being rude and childish for no reason at all.

His comment clearly was not an attack on you, and there is no possible way any rational person would see it that way.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 30, 2012, 10:48:11 PM
I told my friend id take a shot after every terry basket..........
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: crimson_stallion on November 30, 2012, 10:54:21 PM
I 2nd that, Lee also deserves more minutes

Only when he plays like he did today, and he's only done that maybe 2 or 3 times this entire season (today included). 

The way he's played 90% of the time I wouldn't give him minutes either, but if he played like he did today I'd be starting him for 25-30 minutes a night until Bradley returns. 

JG haters will shut up for at least a day.

This is why you don't get too down on him, you can see the capabilities he possesses.

Yeah but as with Lee, this is all irrelevant if he's only going to bring it 3 or 4 times in a 13 or so game stretch.   Eveyone has their bad games, but that's just not good enough.  All the talent in the world is useless if you barely ever see it.

rondo can play defense, but seems to not care for it..and would rather play the poke away D....instead of squaring in front of HIS man

I agree.  Rondo has the ability to be one of the best on-ball defenders in the league when he puts in the effort.  His defensive play a couple of years back was absolutely elite, but the more his assist average goes up the more his defense declines. 

It seems like he doesn't want to play hard D because he wants to save his energy for the offensive end, and when we don't have Bradley out there we can't afford that.  I'd rather he get back down to averaging 8 assists a night and play strong defense.

Whenever Rondo is out there our other guards looks horrendous defensively, but now that Rondo isn't there suddenly Terry and Lee look like defensive masterminds.  It's no coincidence.

When you have an Elite defensive player like Bradley then you can cover for Rondo's lacking effort on that side of the floor.  Guys like Terry and Lee however are solid enough defensively to make things hard for their own man, but not good enough to be able to do that AND cover for another teammates sloppiness.


I get what you're saying, but I'll take a wide open KG/Bass pick and pop jump shot any day, every day, all day.

The difference tonight is that Green is being much more aggressive and being fed the ball and Terry is given more reigns to play as the playmaker and not just a spot up shooter.  His penetration is helping us tremendously.

Also Sullinger is probably having his best game of his career tonight doesn't hurt.

Even Lee is playing well.

Lets not forget this is the trailblazers people.  They are going to be looking for the #1 lotto pick come draft day.

I'll take inside shots, free throws and layups over pick-and-pop jumpers anytime.

Also the "this is the Blazers" argument is void - Detroit slapped us, we needed overtime to beat Orlando (we have more talent on our bench then they do in their starting lineup) and we barely beat Washington (the worst team in the league) without their two best players.

If we played that was then this victory would not have been so decisive.  We held them to under 80 points and our lead never droped below double digits - that is Celtics basketball.

The play of Green, Lee and Terry helped, but with Rondo out they had a bigger role in the offense - the fact that they had big games may not be an accident.

When you stop focusing on his offensive struggles and realize other good things he's doing on the floor?  He's one of the few Celtics that I can say has been playing with high energy, regardless of whether he is playing well or not.

Not at all.  His defense has been pretty mediocre at times, his decision making has been questionable, and I think he's leading the team in turnovers per 48 minutes.

I've seen 2 or 3 games this year where he's played as you describe, even if you ignore the scoring side.

Anyone wondering why Collins hasn't been playing that much? He is probably rusty, but it seems like it would take a lot of oil to get his engine running.

After today I think we know why - he looked terrible tonight, and he made a borderline All-Star (Aldridge) look like a hall of famer. On the defensive side Fab Melo looks a million times better, and offensively he really can't get much worse.

I don't think Rondo needs to play less.  He just needs to stop being a liability on defense.  The way he plays on that end of the floor is a large part of our defensive problems in my opinion.

To be honest, I don't think it would hurt.  Maybe if he was playing 32 minutes a night instead of 38 he's have enough left in the tank to still bring some effort on defense.

I agree with you completely about his impact on our D.  I think it hurts us even more then a lack of bigs.

I'd be resting Rondo another 6 minutes or so each night and splitting those minutes between Terry and Lee.  I'd like to see Terry up around 30 minutes a night, and Lee up around 26 - 28 while Bradley is out.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 10:59:04 PM
Green plays good against the weak / soft defrense minded WEST COAST teams..... Green just hasn't learned to play the ruff/ defense minded EAST COaST style basketball.

Jeff is gonna have to tuffen up when playing the Thugs, bigs and defense minded Eastern teams.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 30, 2012, 10:59:37 PM
Someone chose the wrong night to start a negative thread on Lee and Green.  Nice game for both tonight.

that thread was started long ago...

I thought it was today, but it started 11/21. Oops.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 30, 2012, 11:04:16 PM
Green plays good against the weak / soft defrense minded WEST COAST teams..... Green just hasn't learned to play the ruff/ defense minded EAST COST style basketball.

Jeff is gonna have to tuffen up when playing the Thugs, bigs and defense minded Eastern teams.

Yes -- he does tend to think he can finesse at times when he really needs to be aggressive. Good example tonight when he got his own miss around the rim (late 3rd quarter) and could have gone up hard but instead sort of flipped the ball too hard off the backboard. It was a moment that could have been an emotional lift and a big nail into the Blazers, but he tried a light finesse approach. Can't really get away with that.  But maybe it's in him to be more aggressive.  Hard to know just yet.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 30, 2012, 11:32:47 PM
Someone chose the wrong night to start a negative thread on Lee and Green.  Nice game for both tonight.

that thread was started long ago...

I thought it was today, but it started 11/21. Oops.

Lee and green both played great tonight but if i know green then he will go like 1-10 next game.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2012, 11:59:43 PM
Bucks have the two super quick guards,  they will pick Pierces pocket every time down court I'm afraid. 
 Lee , Terry and Barbosa ,will ahve to keep the Bucks guards under control somewhat.... they just abused our defense.

Will GREEN  show up , or disappear. Can he play good TWO NIGHTS in a row?  ???

Need Sully, Bass and Green to step up and SCORE some Buckets.

Can the Celtics survive against a good team without Rondo .

And if the Celtics prevail....is that a knock on Rondo ???
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: crimson_stallion on December 01, 2012, 12:29:03 AM
With their star point guard out of the lineup, Boston stepped up their defensive intensity, limiting Portland to just 33 first half points as they surged a 23-point halftime lead

Haha that's one way of putting it!!
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: LarBrd33 on December 01, 2012, 02:05:23 AM
We tend to win when Rondo doesn't play.  He's a fantastic passer, but our scorers historically have stepped up without his passes.  Go figure.  Usually it's Pierce.  We do very well with Rondo out.
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: Edgar on December 01, 2012, 02:45:48 AM
We tend to win when Rondo doesn't play.  He's a fantastic passer, but our scorers historically have stepped up without his passes.  Go figure.  Usually it's Pierce.  We do very well with Rondo out.
pierce plays more like his role...right?
Title: Re: Trailblazers (6-9) at Celtics (8-7) 11/30
Post by: biggbird on December 01, 2012, 05:13:51 AM


Yeah okay, guy.  Your reading comprehension was off.  It's okay.

The same tonyto of footballsfuture? No offense dude, but you need to find things to do in life outside of arguing on the internet.