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Title: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: jdz101 on November 25, 2012, 08:46:32 PM
Jus sayin' ::)
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 25, 2012, 08:51:09 PM
Jus sayin' ::)


you know better than to say that... doc will have you flogged  ;D
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: jimmehx on November 25, 2012, 08:53:14 PM
i think the whole idea that we just have to get back on D is outdated. our D is no longer first class as in 08-09. i think we should risk some more offensive boards given that chances are our D doesn't get set regardless.
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 25, 2012, 08:58:00 PM
defense is eveywhere...not just on our halfcourt....you do not fast outlet any rebound when a guy is in your shirt trying to get the same rebound.....so it keeps them honest....rebounding is the backbone of hoop...! 2nd chance points breaks their will and cohesion.....they start blaming....!
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: Chief on November 25, 2012, 08:59:56 PM
defense is eveywhere...not just on our halfcourt....you do not fast outlet any rebound when a guy is in your shirt trying to get the same rebound.....so it keeps them honest....rebounding is the backbone of hoop...! 2nd chance points breaks their will and cohesion.....they start blaming....!

Give this guy some TPS, I'm all out!!!
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: snively on November 25, 2012, 09:01:28 PM
Loved Sully's work on the o-glass.  Infectious.
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: PRIDE on November 25, 2012, 09:12:48 PM
Bass seemed to step up his game after Sullinger played so well. This competition is great for our team.
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: slamtheking on November 25, 2012, 09:13:15 PM
loved seeing us not only get offensive boards but actually make 2nd chance points as well as finally get more O boards than the opposition.  wasn't just O boards that made the difference but taking better care of the D boards too.
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: crimson_stallion on November 25, 2012, 09:16:42 PM
Loving Sully's effort the last 5 games or so.  He's much improved defensively, he's rebounding like a Boss, he's scoring efficiently, and he basically commits one turnover every 5 games.
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 25, 2012, 09:17:52 PM
Loved Sully's work on the o-glass.  Infectious.

Me too ...thought he played well , when the rest of the  team was choking and letting Orlando back in.

If DOc would just pair him with a REAL CENTER , KG or Wilcox when he is in game , he is a natural forward , not a center.

Like Sully game on the boards .
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: xmuscularghandix on November 25, 2012, 09:18:48 PM
How did offensive rebounds win the game when they dominated the boards and barely won?
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 25, 2012, 09:20:57 PM
How did offensive rebounds win the game when they dominated the boards and barely won?

Did you watch the game?  Without timely O rebs, especially from Sully and Bass, there's no way we would've even had a chance tonight.
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 25, 2012, 09:22:06 PM
I missed alot of the 3rd quarter because i was too busy watching the NFL games but how did we let them come back and almost lose the game? I'm guessing it was either poor defense by us or amazing offense by the magic.
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 25, 2012, 09:23:54 PM
How did offensive rebounds win the game when they dominated the boards and barely won?

Did you watch the game?  Without timely O rebs, especially from Sully and Bass, there's no way we would've even had a chance tonight.

True THIS !! ;)
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on November 25, 2012, 09:33:02 PM
I missed alot of the 3rd quarter because i was too busy watching the NFL games but how did we let them come back and almost lose the game? I'm guessing it was either poor defense by us or amazing offense by the magic.

Our perimeter defense was GOD AWFUL. That is why. The magic hit a bunch of 3's and outside shots.
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 25, 2012, 09:40:04 PM
I missed alot of the 3rd quarter because i was too busy watching the NFL games but how did we let them come back and almost lose the game? I'm guessing it was either poor defense by us or amazing offense by the magic.

Our perimeter defense was GOD AWFUL. That is why. The magic hit a bunch of 3's and outside shots.

Yeah, i figured as much. A few key offensive rebounds might have saved the game but it wouldn't have even been that close if it weren't for the defense breaking down. Also great defense down the stretch saved us the game too. We clearly turned it up a notch on D and got some key stops as well.
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: jdz101 on November 25, 2012, 09:42:59 PM
How did offensive rebounds win the game when they dominated the boards and barely won?

If it weren't for Bass and Sully gobbling up boards and getting putbacks we would have lost this game. No doubt about it.

The only part of rhe offense that worked at times was grabbing misses.

Just as an aside. Our guard defense was shocking tonight other than Courtney lee for a short stretch. Time to come back Avery...it's pretty much december.
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: cman88 on November 25, 2012, 09:46:23 PM
I cant wait for bradley to come back so we can have someone who can STAY in front of their man..plus his defense is contagious
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on November 25, 2012, 09:49:46 PM
I cant wait for bradley to come back so we can have someone who can STAY in front of their man..plus his defense is contagious

agreed. our perimeter defense is not good without him it seems.
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: TheReaLPuba on November 25, 2012, 09:51:03 PM
Offensive rebounds didn't win us this game.

KG and Sully's energy won us this game...add in that p--- poor shot by Nelson and we had this in the bag.

But it never should have been this close.

Giving up 100 points to this Orlando Magic team is inexcusable.

I honestly don't know if this Celtics team is a defensive minded first team anymore.

There is a SERIOUS lack of pride and sense of urgency on the defensive side of the ball.

And that makes it so much harder to win games.
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on November 25, 2012, 09:52:10 PM
I cant wait for bradley to come back so we can have someone who can STAY in front of their man..plus his defense is contagious
That there is TP talk...!
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on November 25, 2012, 09:54:44 PM
Offensive rebounds didn't win us this game.

KG and Sully's energy won us this game...add in that p--- poor shot by Nelson and we had this in the bag.

But it never should have been this close.

Giving up 100 points to this Orlando Magic team is inexcusable.

I honestly don't know if this Celtics team is a defensive minded first team anymore.

There is a SERIOUS lack of pride and sense of urgency on the defensive side of the ball.

And that makes it so much harder to win games.

rondo's jumpers need to fall also.....and free throws  ;)
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 25, 2012, 10:01:13 PM
I cant wait for bradley to come back so we can have someone who can STAY in front of their man..plus his defense is contagious

Yup, we're really missing bradley on defense. Its almost dec. He should be back soon.
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: AB_Celtic on November 25, 2012, 10:09:53 PM
I cant wait for bradley to come back so we can have someone who can STAY in front of their man..plus his defense is contagious

Yup, we're really missing bradley on defense. Its almost dec. He should be back soon.

Have they said anything recently about his recovery? Last I heard he was "ahead of schedule" for his mid-December return (this was around mid-October).
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: jdz101 on November 25, 2012, 10:12:47 PM
I cant wait for bradley to come back so we can have someone who can STAY in front of their man..plus his defense is contagious

Yup, we're really missing bradley on defense. Its almost dec. He should be back soon.

Have they said anything recently about his recovery? Last I heard he was "ahead of schedule" for his mid-December return (this was around mid-October).

He is starting to dress in warmup clothes so he can't be far away.
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: Edgar on November 25, 2012, 10:13:59 PM
all second half i saw people fighting balls just in front of me i loved that
hope that becomes an usual effort
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 25, 2012, 10:14:19 PM
I cant wait for bradley to come back so we can have someone who can STAY in front of their man..plus his defense is contagious

Yup, we're really missing bradley on defense. Its almost dec. He should be back soon.

Have they said anything recently about his recovery? Last I heard he was "ahead of schedule" for his mid-December return (this was around mid-October).

That was the last thing i heard as well. I would think if he was ahead of schedule he should be ready to come back any day now. At the very latest he should be returning in about 3weeks minus any setbacks.
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: AB_Celtic on November 25, 2012, 10:15:05 PM
I cant wait for bradley to come back so we can have someone who can STAY in front of their man..plus his defense is contagious

Yup, we're really missing bradley on defense. Its almost dec. He should be back soon.

Have they said anything recently about his recovery? Last I heard he was "ahead of schedule" for his mid-December return (this was around mid-October).

He is starting to dress in warmup clothes so he can't be far away.

Yeah I noticed the transition from the suits recently.
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: Edgar on November 25, 2012, 10:16:47 PM
p.s. other than early fouls i can see very usefull effort from sully this game VERY
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: pearljammer10 on November 25, 2012, 10:53:46 PM
Doc made some sketchy coaching decisions tonight. Lucky to pull that one out.
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on November 25, 2012, 11:59:48 PM
I hope that none of you is genuinely surprised that Boston nearly lost this game. We all know about "good Tony Allen" and "bad Tony Allen"; well, there's also "good Celtics" and "bad Celtics," and this was classic, New Big Three Era, regular-season "bad Celtics" basketball. It happens all the time.

That said, glad they pulled it out.
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: jdz101 on November 26, 2012, 12:52:23 AM
I hope that none of you is genuinely surprised that Boston nearly lost this game. We all know about "good Tony Allen" and "bad Tony Allen"; well, there's also "good Celtics" and "bad Celtics," and this was classic, New Big Three Era, regular-season "bad Celtics" basketball. It happens all the time.

That said, glad they pulled it out.

It is definitely different this year though. In previous years they would go through huge scoring droughts and rely on defensive stops to scrape through games.

This year they have no trouble scoring 30 in a quarter or 15 in an overtime period, but they are failing to get the defensive systems to stop the other team.

If we can get near the defense of previous years and still maintain the scoring potency we have now, we will be a force.
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: j804 on November 26, 2012, 01:59:24 AM
Doc made some sketchy coaching decisions tonight. Lucky to pull that one out.
like how when he sat KG/Rondo when we were down by four in the fourth late in the game? it paid off a rested KG even though he played more than his usual helped us pull it out down the stretch and in OT
Title: Re: "Hey doc, offensive rebounds won us that game."
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 26, 2012, 03:00:24 AM
I hope that none of you is genuinely surprised that Boston nearly lost this game. We all know about "good Tony Allen" and "bad Tony Allen"; well, there's also "good Celtics" and "bad Celtics," and this was classic, New Big Three Era, regular-season "bad Celtics" basketball. It happens all the time.

That said, glad they pulled it out.

It is definitely different this year though. In previous years they would go through huge scoring droughts and rely on defensive stops to scrape through games.

This year they have no trouble scoring 30 in a quarter or 15 in an overtime period, but they are failing to get the defensive systems to stop the other team.

If we can get near the defense of previous years and still maintain the scoring potency we have now, we will be a force.

This ^^^ Bradley is the key. Once he comes back and terry moves back to the bench i really think we will take off just like last year.