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Title: Bring Melo back from Maine?
Post by: ScoobyDoo on November 21, 2012, 11:59:27 AM
Two questions regarding melo:

1. Given our lack of big man depth, should we just bring Melo back and throw him into the deep end of the pool for for 5-10 minutes a game to see if he can swim? Can he be any worse than Ryan Hollins?

2. The guy I really wanted with the 22nd pick was Festus Ezeli. Thought he was a more athletic Perkins type and would fit well next to KG and that Sully/Ezeli woudl have been a nice haul for us in the paint. He's playing decently in Golden State.

Does anyone think Melo has bigger long term upside or do you think the kid will likely bust? I have no idea because I haven't seen him play enough yet - curious as to people's thoughts at this point.
 
Title: Re: Bring Melo back from Maine?
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 21, 2012, 12:15:45 PM
Ezeli is a more polished player with more BB time under his belt.  I actually wanted DA to take Fab & Ezel.

Fab to me is a more awesome physical specimen than Ezeli.  Fab could muscle up if he was a gym rat like Dwight Howard.

Fab has the tools , he is just going to need time to become a basketball player. He needs to live and breath BB.

Fab seems to "WANT" to have an offensive game.  This is good sign to me.  He is fast enough and quick on his feet.

Fab might have some useful Defensive minutes to offer by the end of the season.

I'm sure he feels some pressure knowing his team is really hurt'n for a center presence.

Short term FAB is a bust, but I don't belive DA bought him in thinking he was gonna give the team anything the 1 st year.  Maybe next year , if he works like a dog all summer , he'll start to show his stuff.
Title: Re: Bring Melo back from Maine?
Post by: 2short on November 21, 2012, 02:12:18 PM
I think it would hurt him to be put on nba floor for 10 minutes at this point in his career.  He is way to raw to play now.  He was lost in preseason.  I expect nothing from him for a year 1/2 - 2 years but think the potential is there
Title: Re: Bring Melo back from Maine?
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on November 21, 2012, 04:00:12 PM
We don't even play Collins (or Darko), why would you think Doc would choose to play a rookie? Collins is a good center believe it or not (backup), but Doc barely let's him get 1 minute every 5th game! Come on now guys.
Title: Re: Bring Melo back from Maine?
Post by: moiso on November 21, 2012, 04:07:01 PM
He's not ready for minutes on a good team.  He has a lot of potential but as of now he makes 4 mistakes for every good play.
Title: Re: Bring Melo back from Maine?
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 21, 2012, 05:13:19 PM
nm i am an idiot.  ;D
Title: Re: Bring Melo back from Maine?
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 21, 2012, 05:16:02 PM
It always helps to bring in a raw guy who can't crack the rotation, why didn't I think of that?
Title: Re: Bring Melo back from Maine?
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 21, 2012, 05:17:40 PM
It always helps to bring in a raw guy who can't crack the rotation, why didn't I think of that?

perks says hi.  ;)

actually, melo has more physical ability and speed than perk, so melo may play a role sooner than perk did.....say maybe his second year....maybe.
Title: Re: Bring Melo back from Maine?
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 21, 2012, 05:29:42 PM
Perk was built like a truck, Melo is not.  Perk had a knack for position defense, and Melo does not.  We had a bad team that afforded Perk minutes.   Now we have a vet team who don't want  to have a kid holding them back.  Nice try but he is not in a similiar situation as Perk.

Perk says, bye...
Title: Re: Bring Melo back from Maine?
Post by: greenhead85 on November 21, 2012, 06:28:59 PM
I would want Melo to spend more time in the gym to build up on his upper body (ala Dwight) and play 5-7 minutes for the Celts on a specific role that he has to fulfill i.e. attempting to earn at least a block and rebound at least 2 per game, and slow down bigs and intimidate penetrators. Bynum was smartly used and paced that way.
Title: Re: Bring Melo back from Maine?
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 21, 2012, 07:10:16 PM
Sign Robert Swift instead.
Title: Re: Bring Melo back from Maine?
Post by: CFAN38 on November 26, 2012, 08:38:08 AM
Melo isnt ready for NBA minutes, he is barily ready for D-League minutes,

Festus Ezeli was my pick at 22. He is already showing he belongs in the NBA.
Title: Re: Bring Melo back from Maine?
Post by: wdleehi on November 26, 2012, 08:48:59 AM
It is not a lack of big men.


It is a lack of NBA quality at C.  They have KG.


They can get by with Wilcox. 



Collins is an end of the bench C, 6 hard fouls on true C.


Melo isn't ready to get minutes.  He would just be a paper weight on the bench.  Better to let him get play time elsewhere.
Title: Re: Bring Melo back from Maine?
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 26, 2012, 09:02:19 AM
Fab needs to work his tail off in Maine .   Fab needs control, he tries to do too much too soon.  WHich is a lack of experience and court time.

IMO ... Chris Joseph is already a better offensive player and shot than COurtney Lee. He needs to nail his defense.

Joseph , like AB one day is really goning to help this team if he avoids the trade. KJ got game.

I would take Joseph over Lee ANYDAY and by the end of the year , it an't even gonna be close. (twice on Sunday)

Love to see Bradley at point and KJ at shooting guard. Talk about fast break basketball :)
Title: Re: Bring Melo back from Maine?
Post by: European NBA fan on November 26, 2012, 09:14:06 AM
Melo isnt ready for NBA minutes, he is barily ready for D-League minutes,

Festus Ezeli was my pick at 22. He is already showing he belongs in the NBA.

Melos 14 points on 10 shots in just over 17 minutes yesterday begs to differ (that he is barely D-League ready). He had at least one unbelievable outlet pass from a rebound, that you just don't see many bigs in the NBA make. 
Title: Re: Bring Melo back from Maine?
Post by: Chris on November 26, 2012, 09:36:02 AM
Melo showed he is not ready to "swim" in the preseason, and I highly doubt that has changed already.  He is more lost than Patty O'Bryant was, and doesn't have the strength to hold the post.

Melo was never picked to play in his first year or two.  He was basically picked like Perkins was a few years back (although he is a few years older).  He was drafted as a 2-3 year project, who basically needs to completely learn the game. 

He is a HUGE bust risk, just because he has to come so far before he is an NBA quality player...but the risk is evened out a bit by his upside.  If he can learn how to play, then he can be a very good NBA player, given his size and athleticism.  But lets not jump the gun on anything.  Let him hang out in Portland.  Come down and practice with the team when they are on homestands, and get game action in the NBDL.

As far as the center depth, I am not sure I see the problem.  They currently have 3 healthy centers (KG, Wilcox, Collins). 

Could they use an upgrade in talent at the center spot, sure.  But that is not coming from a raw rookie like Melo (unless it is via trade with him as part of it).
Title: Re: Bring Melo back from Maine?
Post by: pearljammer10 on November 26, 2012, 11:05:39 AM
Like many other people said...No.

Melo is clearly not ready to contribute to a title contending NBA basketball team. Honestly he isnt ready to contribute on any NBA team at the moment. Bringing him back to the Celtics to ride the pine and not get any minutes what so ever isn't going to help his development any. He needs a full year in the D League and might be able to crack the bench next season.