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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: rondohondo on November 21, 2012, 11:04:04 AM

Title: A Sherrod says Chris Wilcox has a no trade clause
Post by: rondohondo on November 21, 2012, 11:04:04 AM
http://www.csnne.com/basketball-boston-celtics/celtics-talk/Celtics-Talk-TV-Cs-considering-making-mo?blockID=804425&feedID=3352

around 2:40 of this video he says because Wilcox signed the vet min and he has a certain number of years in the league that he can refuse being traded if he doesn't want to go .

Is this just sherrod being his clueless self or is this actually true?
Title: Re: A Sherrod says Chris Wilcox has a no trade clause
Post by: Roy H. on November 21, 2012, 11:08:47 AM
Wilcox is playing on a one-year deal and will be an "Early Bird" free agent at the end of the year, I believe.  That means that he needs to consent to any trade.

It has nothing to do with years in the league or vet minimum contracts, though. 
Title: Re: A Sherrod says Chris Wilcox has a no trade clause
Post by: Jeff on November 21, 2012, 11:10:53 AM
yeah, it wouldn't be a "clause" but a provision in the CBA

we've seen trades hung up and even cancelled in the past because guys thrown in for salary reasons refused to be traded because of this or something like this
Title: Re: A Sherrod says Chris Wilcox has a no trade clause
Post by: mgent on November 21, 2012, 11:50:18 AM
Wilcox is playing on a one-year deal and will be an "Early Bird" free agent at the end of the year, I believe.  That means that he needs to consent to any trade.

It has nothing to do with years in the league or vet minimum contracts, though.
So you lose full Bird rights when waived, but you can keep Early Bird?
Title: Re: A Sherrod says Chris Wilcox has a no trade clause
Post by: Celtics18 on November 21, 2012, 12:22:10 PM
I haven't seen anyone include Chris in any trade ideas.  Maybe it's because everybody already knew this, or, more likely, it's because no one really wants to see him traded.

He's the perfect example of a guy who has more value to us as a player than as a trade chip.  This is good news, though as it means I don't have to see his name pop up in any of the "trade everybody for Josh Smith" threads. 
Title: Re: A Sherrod says Chris Wilcox has a no trade clause
Post by: Roy H. on November 21, 2012, 12:35:32 PM
Wilcox is playing on a one-year deal and will be an "Early Bird" free agent at the end of the year, I believe.  That means that he needs to consent to any trade.

It has nothing to do with years in the league or vet minimum contracts, though.
So you lose full Bird rights when waived, but you can keep Early Bird?

It's complicated, but Larry Coon does as good of a job explaining it as I can:

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The player must complete his contract immediately prior to becoming a free agent, which essentially means he can't have cleared waivers. If he signs a series of contracts, then this only applies to the last contract. If a team signs a player and waives him after one game, signs and waives him after one game again the next year, and in the third year signs him and keeps him the entire season (assuming he didn't sign elsewhere during those three seasons), then they will have full Bird rights following the third season.

The same is true for Early Bird rights. For example John Lucas III signed a one-year contract with the Chicago Bulls for 2010-11, but waived him in October, 2010. They signed him again to a non-guaranteed contract in November 2010, but waived him again in January 2011 (just before the leaugewide contract guarantee date). They signed him again in March 2011 to a two-year contract (with a team option for 2011-12, which the Bulls picked-up). Despite having three contracts and being waived twice over a two-year period, the Bulls have Early Bird rights to Lucas in 2012.