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Title: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: cons on November 16, 2012, 03:26:38 PM
Just had to say this.
is anyone else so frustrated w this season's team? talent is so deep, they're all good players but god they're all undersized. Even KG is like an undersized center. I feel for him! Bass and Sully are both undersized jumpshooting 4's. JG is undersized. wilcox is undersized. they're playing hard, but can we really win a championship with only one guy (KG) who could really be considered a genuine inside presence?

apparently based on playing time darko, collins and melo aren't really in the plans.

quality big guys don't just appear so I'm scared we won't get one. It'd be a shame bc I think with just one more real down low presence we'd be a lot better.

do people think danny is planning to make a move or do we think this is the plan - small ball to #18? i just don't see that working out.
Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: Birdman on November 16, 2012, 03:43:45 PM
I said it before the season. Who is going to get us some rebounds?? Same problem as last year. Collins, Darko, and Wilcox couldnt out rebound me!!!
Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: Chris on November 16, 2012, 03:47:52 PM
I said it before the season. Who is going to get us some rebounds?? Same problem as last year. Collins, Darko, and Wilcox couldnt out rebound me!!!

As we saw in the last quarter and a half, this team can rebound...but its a matter of execution and effort.  Their system requires their entire team to be working together to rebound.  Even if they have great rebounders in there, this can still be an issue, if the backside isn't rotating and boxing out, and the perimeter guys are not crashing in to get the long rebounds.
Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: Rondooooooooo on November 16, 2012, 03:49:22 PM
i doubt we pick up another big through trades or anything that would actually matter. my guess is doc is going to go through the season w/ this roster and hope that the boxing out improves. we also saw how good of a rebounding team we could be when people started crashing the boards like courtney did last night. i feel like if they were to do that with more bodies and box out even a little the rebounding will come.
Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: badshar on November 16, 2012, 03:52:25 PM
JG is undersized?
I don't want to say it, but are you stupid?

Jeff Green is a small forward and he is 6'9. He is among the tallest Small Fowards out there.

At least think about what you write before you just blurt out random stuff.
Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: angryguy77 on November 16, 2012, 03:55:41 PM
One thing for certain, our interior d isn't like it used to be. Hope that gets better, or we are going to forced to try and upgrade.
Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: alley oop on November 16, 2012, 04:17:12 PM
The C's no doubt didn't rebound well in the 1st half last night, and have rebounded poorly at times this year. However, it's not the case the best teams in the NBA are the best rebounding teams. The Heat, the "team to beat", right now are 29th in rebounding. San Antonio is 24th; NY is 26th; and the Clipper's are 27th.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/team/_/stat/rebounds-per-game
Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 16, 2012, 05:03:30 PM
We have not rebounded well for years though...
Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: cons on November 16, 2012, 05:19:58 PM
yeah, i guess to clarify I meant JG would be an undersized 4 - and is essentially a perimeter player on both ends.
they have somehow managed the last few years while being bad at rebounding but I think interior D is bad - that wizards guy drove from the 3 pt line and dunked in the 4th quarter the other night - and there seems to be no scoring in the paint. 

i thought when they signed collins, darko and drafted melo I was like - ok they're not great but they dont' need to be, but to not even play them at all and go all small ball - i'm worried.
Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: eugen on November 16, 2012, 06:14:36 PM
This team is crying for a big man!

I told you on July the same thing. I proposed DHoward as a example to build a team around a big man. Bur a lot of folks here did not have the same opinion ??? ::)
Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: OsirusCeltics on November 16, 2012, 06:47:24 PM
Why doesn't Doc just play Darko? I'm confused
Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on November 16, 2012, 06:49:16 PM
I just don't think our "Bigs" problem is as bad as it seems.

As tempting as Josh Smith may be, I'm very hesitant to deplete our roster in order to get him, though.

With that being said, let's not forget One Man Gang just 6 months ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BUHk-HhHTs

And:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cU3jwbg1Po

Look, if we think that KG is going to go ALL OUT - every game, from now until Mid June, that's not going to happen. He will have his spurts where he carries us during the regular season, but our 36 y.o. KG is saving his best for the post-season.

If we get to the post-season relatively healthy, I'm EXTREMELY confident in Playoff KG, Bass, Wilcox, Sully and some contributions from Darko and Collins. This is all we really need.
Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on November 16, 2012, 06:55:34 PM
Additionally, I think this team is crying more for Avery Bradley than a big man.

Plus, can someone PLEASE tell me who "Boo Boo" is, lol..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6VTC8ekbWU&feature=related

This team is fine. I'm not going to pieces over the BKN game.
Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: celticslove on November 16, 2012, 07:00:16 PM
as long as doc is in love with his small ball we don't need another big man warming up the seat. true story
Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: jdz101 on November 16, 2012, 07:28:30 PM
Just had to say this.
is anyone else so frustrated w this season's team? talent is so deep, they're all good players but god they're all undersized. Even KG is like an undersized center. I feel for him! Bass and Sully are both undersized jumpshooting 4's. JG is undersized. wilcox is undersized. they're playing hard, but can we really win a championship with only one guy (KG) who could really be considered a genuine inside presence?

apparently based on playing time darko, collins and melo aren't really in the plans.

quality big guys don't just appear so I'm scared we won't get one. It'd be a shame bc I think with just one more real down low presence we'd be a lot better.

do people think danny is planning to make a move or do we think this is the plan - small ball to #18? i just don't see that working out.

The differential in rebounds between the first and second halves yesterday showed it is more of a system thing than a personnel thing. Once the players got a spray from the coach they responded.

Besides the guy who killed us in the UTAH game with his hustle was millsap, who is all of 6'8". Kenneth Faried is one of the league's best rebounders and he is drastically undersized. The reason he does so well is because he puts all his effort into it.

This team full of proud veterans doesn't seem to care about rebounding, and therefore we get murdered on the glass. It's like their saying "I want to go shoot jumpshots so a rookie should go get my rebound for me." Except there are no rookies on the floor.
Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on November 17, 2012, 08:24:59 PM
Additionally, I think this team is crying more for Avery Bradley than a big man.

Plus, can someone PLEASE tell me who "Boo Boo" is, lol..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6VTC8ekbWU&feature=related

This team is fine. I'm not going to pieces over the BKN game.

C'est moi. booboo is my family nickname. no kidding.
Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on November 17, 2012, 08:31:16 PM
Additionally, I think this team is crying more for Avery Bradley than a big man.

Plus, can someone PLEASE tell me who "Boo Boo" is, lol..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6VTC8ekbWU&feature=related

This team is fine. I'm not going to pieces over the BKN game.

C'est moi. booboo is my family nickname. no kidding.

Well, you better go to bed! LOL
Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on November 17, 2012, 08:34:19 PM
Additionally, I think this team is crying more for Avery Bradley than a big man.

Plus, can someone PLEASE tell me who "Boo Boo" is, lol..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6VTC8ekbWU&feature=related

This team is fine. I'm not going to pieces over the BKN game.

C'est moi. booboo is my family nickname. no kidding.

Well, you better go to bed! LOL

I did after that win last year!  ;D
Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: D.o.s. on November 17, 2012, 08:59:26 PM
Sir Charles was all of 6'4, and that didn't stop him from being a monster on the glass.

We don't need a big man, we need a(nother) rebounder.
Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 17, 2012, 09:48:17 PM
Gortat ....would help alot be good with pick n roll IMO with PP , Jet and Rondo.  ???

Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: bfrombleacher on November 17, 2012, 10:54:39 PM
I love AB. I really, really do.

But I think right now, if we're flipping anybody for a rebounding semi-traditional big, it's him. And the more I think about it the more we should.

And when we do, it's over. We win.

J-Smoove or Al Jefferson. Hawes. Even Mahimi.

Kaman even would work.

I'm all on board for that.
Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: fitzhickey on November 18, 2012, 01:15:52 AM
I love AB. I really, really do.

But I think right now, if we're flipping anybody for a rebounding semi-traditional big, it's him. And the more I think about it the more we should.

And when we do, it's over. We win.

J-Smoove or Al Jefferson. Hawes. Even Mahimi.

Kaman even would work.

I'm all on board for that.
I'd like Mahinmi, can move quickly for a big, and can slam easily, good running mate with rondo.
imagine
Rondo
Bradley
Green
Wilcox
Mahinmi= SPEED!
Title: Re: This team is crying for a big man!
Post by: Kane3387 on November 18, 2012, 01:16:42 AM
On espn insider they talk about an idea of Bradley and lee for gortat. It's an article about gortat trades.