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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: rondohondo on November 08, 2012, 08:14:15 PM
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Brendan Haywood would be great fit IMO. Perfect backup center for KG. He is making about 2 mil and is on 1 year deal with the Bobcats so I am assuming he could be had for maybe Melo and Collins ?
Robin Lopez is making about 5 mil . Maybe barbosa, collins and melo gets it done?
Zaza Pachulia. Very strong tough nosed big man, more athletic and mobile than Darko so he can guard the pick and roll .
thoughts? additions ?
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Brendan Haywood would be great fit IMO. Perfect backup center for KG. He is making about 2 mil and is on 1 year deal with the Bobcats so I am assuming he could be had for maybe Melo and Collins ?
Robin Lopez is making about 5 mil . Maybe barbosa, collins and melo gets it done?
Zaza Pachulia. Very strong tough nosed big man, more athletic and mobile than Darko so he can guard the pick and roll .
thoughts? additions ?
I think Haywood can't be traded due to being amnestied and signed via bidding.
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- Brendan Haywood can't be traded until next summer due to amnesty waiver.
- Zaza Pachulia is a lousy defender. I don't think he is worth pursuing.
- Robin Lopez is interesting option. Legitimate size and physical presence in the paint. Decent rebounder. On the downside, he has been extremely inconsistent and unreliable in the past.
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The cheapest big man option for the C's are probably darko milicic and Jason Collins... Oh wait
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Why do we need another big man for Doc to bury on the bench?
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Why do we need another big man for Doc to bury on the bench?
Thank you, you beat me to it.
Why on earth would we try to pursue more big men when Doc clearly has no interest whatsoever in playing them?
Unless we could upgrade one of our existing centers (i.e. get Haywood for Collins) we may as well keep what we have.
Adding more big bodies to our inactive list won't help us win games.
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The cheapest big man option for the C's are probably darko milicic and Jason Collins... Oh wait
What about Chris Wilcox . . . oh wait. There's a promising, young Brazilian rookie . . . never mind.
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Haven't we already signed three cheap big man options that are so bad they can't break the rotation? What good is another?
Lopez is the best of what you mentioned but NO likes him and he isn't going anywhere.
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I'm not sure that for "cheap" we could really improve.
If by cheap you expand it to be one of Green/Bass plus Bradley Plus a Pick, you could expand to these potentially available bigs:
Nene
Al Jefferson
Verejao
Milsap
Marc Gasol/Randolph (depending on circumstances, and would need some additional salaries to make it work)
In terms of cheaper, for varying reasons and for varying packages:
Hickson
Jason Thompson
Mareese Speights
Chuck Hayes
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I'm driving this bandwagon and I will keep on going everytime we talk about a big man we should get/acquire.
Get us Jason Smith.
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The cheapest big man option for the C's are probably darko milicic and Jason Collins... Oh wait
What about Chris Wilcox . . . oh wait. There's a promising, young Brazilian rookie . . . never mind.
TP for the back up.
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Get us Jason Smith.
Once Bradley comes back healthy, a mid-season trade of Bass, Lee, Sullinger, and a first-round pick to New Orleans for Jason Smith and Ryan Anderson.
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the modern day player at the 5 is a slim power forward. the bosh's, noah's, aldridge's, varejaos, deandre jordan's, javale mcgee's, Stiemsma's... do i need to keep going?
so why do you continue insisting on getting a slow, overpaid bruiser who will be benched in the 4th quarters like perk currently is?
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I'm not sure that for "cheap" we could really improve.
If by cheap you expand it to be one of Green/Bass plus Bradley Plus a Pick, you could expand to these potentially available bigs:
Nene
Al Jefferson
Verejao
Milsap
Marc Gasol/Randolph (depending on circumstances, and would need some additional salaries to make it work)
In terms of cheaper, for varying reasons and for varying packages:
Hickson
Jason Thompson
Mareese Speights
Chuck Hayes
Nene would be harder to get than Emeka and we would rather have Emeka because he has only 2 years left at 14M instead of 13M over 3 years like Nene does.
Al Jefferson just makes too much money to be attainable for this team. 15M means we have to trade Green and either Bass or Lee and someone else. He's also not particularly great at playing defense and he's a FA at the end of the season so we could end up with nothing if we don't wanna pay him a lot. I also think Millsap is a better investment personally.
Varejao is an interesting case. Cleveland can probably get more for him than the Bass-centered package we'd be offering but if they would take some combination of Bass/Melo/pick then I'd do it. I think they might too.
Marc Gasol isn't going anywhere. The Grizzlies would be absolutely nuts to trade him for anything short of a franchise level player. Randolph might be on the table but I don't want him. I've always felt that he was very overrated. Oh and 16M over 3 years doesn't thrill me either.
The four guys you listed after aren't upgrades over Bass. Maybe Jason Thompson would be but it's probably pretty close to even. If we could trade straight up and save some money I guess I'd do it but when you move a player who has been on your team for more than a year you lose some chemistry. That might be worth paying for.
Someone that this blog has put be on to is Amare Stoudemire. I posted in a thread here about it and I think it would be a very bold move. Green+Lee+Bass for Amare/Brewer would be very tempting to me. It's a total "win now" move and I'm not sure that is what Danny wants but it would make us a very scary team.
Once Bradley comes back healthy, a mid-season trade of Bass, Lee, Sullinger, and a first-round pick to New Orleans for Jason Smith and Ryan Anderson.
There is no way I do that. Anderson is overrated and Smith is a Darko without any hype. Giving up all of our trading chips for mediocre bigs makes no sense. If we're trading for a center let's target Gortat or Cousins.
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Once Bradley comes back healthy, a mid-season trade of Bass, Lee, Sullinger, and a first-round pick to New Orleans for Jason Smith and Ryan Anderson.
No thanks...
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Once Bradley comes back healthy, a mid-season trade of Bass, Lee, Sullinger, and a first-round pick to New Orleans for Jason Smith and Ryan Anderson.
There is no way I do that. Anderson is overrated and Smith is a Darko without any hype. Giving up all of our trading chips for mediocre bigs makes no sense. If we're trading for a center let's target Gortat or Cousins.
Anderson is a better player than Al Jefferson or Amare Stoudemire. Jason Smith knows what to do if D-Wade tries to pull a punk move on Rondo.
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Get us Jason Smith.
Once Bradley comes back healthy, a mid-season trade of Bass, Lee, Sullinger, and a first-round pick to New Orleans for Jason Smith and Ryan Anderson.
That's a horribllllle trade!
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I love Zaza, but I am not sure why Atlanta would trade him.
Ultimately though, I think the answer for the C's is already on the roster. They just need Wilcox and Darko to get healthy and up to speed. Bringing in someone new just means they have to start learning the system from scratch.
At this point, unless they have serious injuries, they should only be looking to trade for big men, if they can get a real upgrade (like a Smith or Varajao type), not just another end of the rotation player. Otherwise, work on getting the guys you have up to speed.
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Get us Jason Smith.
Once Bradley comes back healthy, a mid-season trade of Bass, Lee, Sullinger, and a first-round pick to New Orleans for Jason Smith and Ryan Anderson.
Well, I wanted Jason Smith, but not for that much. I mean cmon now...
I think he could be traded for Darko/Wilcox/Bass and a 2nd.
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Once Bradley comes back healthy, a mid-season trade of Bass, Lee, Sullinger, and a first-round pick to New Orleans for Jason Smith and Ryan Anderson.
There is no way I do that. Anderson is overrated and Smith is a Darko without any hype. Giving up all of our trading chips for mediocre bigs makes no sense. If we're trading for a center let's target Gortat or Cousins.
Anderson is a better player than Al Jefferson or Amare Stoudemire. Jason Smith knows what to do if D-Wade tries to pull a punk move on Rondo.
Terrible trade indeed. There is no way I take Anderson over Jefferson, and I really dont like Jefferson. I would even gamble on Amare's health and contract over Anderson. Anderson had such an overrated year in Orlando last year.
Get us Jason Smith.
Once Bradley comes back healthy, a mid-season trade of Bass, Lee, Sullinger, and a first-round pick to New Orleans for Jason Smith and Ryan Anderson.
Well, I wanted Jason Smith, but not for that much. I mean cmon now...
I think he could be traded for Darko/Wilcox/Bass and a 2nd.
There is absolutely no way that I trade those three plus a pick for Jason Smith. That is ludacris. Bass alone is mile better than Smith. So is WIlcox. Id even take Darko over Smith no way would I trade all three of them. My center targedt if we go for anyone is by far Gortat. Bass/Bradley/first rounder and a filler for Gortat would be the best thing we could do tradewise.
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At this point, unless they have serious injuries, they should only be looking to trade for big men, if they can get a real upgrade (like a Smith or Varajao type), not just another end of the rotation player. Otherwise, work on getting the guys you have up to speed.
I'd agree with this.
We already have enough low-cost bigs. Doc just needs to play them, particularly WIlcox (maybe Darko too).
If we're making a trade, it needs to be for a game changer.
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Once Bradley comes back healthy, a mid-season trade of Bass, Lee, Sullinger, and a first-round pick to New Orleans for Jason Smith and Ryan Anderson.
Well, I wanted Jason Smith, but not for that much. I mean cmon now...
I think he could be traded for Darko/Wilcox/Bass and a 2nd.
There is absolutely no way that I trade those three plus a pick for Jason Smith. That is ludacris. Bass alone is mile better than Smith. So is WIlcox. Id even take Darko over Smith no way would I trade all three of them. My center targedt if we go for anyone is by far Gortat. Bass/Bradley/first rounder and a filler for Gortat would be the best thing we could do tradewise.
You got me all wrong sir. The slashes (/) means either one of the three, not all three of them. I guess it was me. LOL
I, most certainly would not do it as well, all three of them for Smith. I mean, I love Smith's game, he hustles, rebounds good, decent to solid rim protector, midrange game. Not to mention he's a legitimate 7'0" and is rough and tough and would not get "punked". But I am NOT doing it for those three, those three together should land a near all star.
I believe one of the three i mentioned though, + a 2nd rounder should probably do the deal.
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Once Bradley comes back healthy, a mid-season trade of Bass, Lee, Sullinger, and a first-round pick to New Orleans for Jason Smith and Ryan Anderson.
There is no way I do that. Anderson is overrated and Smith is a Darko without any hype. Giving up all of our trading chips for mediocre bigs makes no sense. If we're trading for a center let's target Gortat or Cousins.
Anderson is a better player than Al Jefferson or Amare Stoudemire. Jason Smith knows what to do if D-Wade tries to pull a punk move on Rondo.
That... was a joke wasn't it? Cause even though Jefferson and Amare are defensive scrubs, they are Dennis Rodman and KG compared to Anderson. That and they have more at their arsenal than a jumpshot. Oh and they had better numbers than Anderson last year. Much better all-around too.
If Ryan Anderson is better than Big Al and Amare, then so is Glen Davis, and we all know that isn't true.
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we got three bigs sitting on the bench now.
I HATE small ball... Miami is fluke team with LBJ , playing every postion from guard to center ... unless another LBJ is out there it is waste of time.
Dear Doc wake up ... put Wilcox and Darko and play ball.
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we got three bigs sitting on the bench now.
I HATE small ball... Miami is fluke team with LBJ , playing every postion from guard to center ... unless another LBJ is out there it is waste of time.
Dear Doc wake up ... put Wilcox and Darko and play ball.
Not sure how playing players who aren't good or who don't get "it" or aren't in good enough shape yet is going to make this team better.
Wilcox, in limited minutes has looked good offensively and horrible defensively. Darko is just a god awful player. Collins is worse.
Why play these guys if the net effect on the team will be negative? I just don't get that.
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Once Bradley comes back healthy, a mid-season trade of Bass, Lee, Sullinger, and a first-round pick to New Orleans for Jason Smith and Ryan Anderson.
There is no way I do that. Anderson is overrated and Smith is a Darko without any hype. Giving up all of our trading chips for mediocre bigs makes no sense. If we're trading for a center let's target Gortat or Cousins.
Anderson is a better player than Al Jefferson or Amare Stoudemire. Jason Smith knows what to do if D-Wade tries to pull a punk move on Rondo.
That... was a joke wasn't it? Cause even though Jefferson and Amare are defensive scrubs, they are Dennis Rodman and KG compared to Anderson. That and they have more at their arsenal than a jumpshot. Oh and they had better numbers than Anderson last year. Much better all-around too.
It's absolutely not a joke. Anderson is not a great individual defender, but I think that he is a better fit than Jefferson or Stoudemire on a team that requires intelligent rotations for its defense to work.
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At this point, unless they have serious injuries, they should only be looking to trade for big men, if they can get a real upgrade (like a Smith or Varajao type), not just another end of the rotation player. Otherwise, work on getting the guys you have up to speed.
I'd agree with this.
We already have enough low-cost bigs. Doc just needs to play them, particularly WIlcox (maybe Darko too).
If we're making a trade, it needs to be for a game changer.
Ideally, it'd be a game changing big man (like Varejao or a Josh Smith) but I would be happy with a lesser option.
To acquire a solid starting PF (Ty Thomas) to go alongside Garnett or a high level backup C (?) to spell Garnett. I think adding a more solid option in either area (starting PF, backup C) would give the team a nice boost. Get Garnett some more help defensively.
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At this point, unless they have serious injuries, they should only be looking to trade for big men, if they can get a real upgrade (like a Smith or Varajao type), not just another end of the rotation player. Otherwise, work on getting the guys you have up to speed.
I'd agree with this.
We already have enough low-cost bigs. Doc just needs to play them, particularly WIlcox (maybe Darko too).
If we're making a trade, it needs to be for a game changer.
Ideally, it'd be a game changing big man (like Varejao or a Josh Smith) but I would be happy with a lesser option.
To acquire a solid starting PF (Ty Thomas) to go alongside Garnett or a high level backup C (?) to spell Garnett. I think adding a more solid option in either area (starting PF, backup C) would give the team a nice boost. Get Garnett some more help defensively.
Here's the problem. Ty Thomas is not a solid starting PF. He has always been a bench guy and spot starter at best, and that is when he can stay healthy.
As an energy guy off the bench, I can see an argument, but there is zero evidence that he can be even an average starter.
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Two thoughts:
1) I maintain as I have for months I'd rather have Kenyon Martin on this team than have the combo of Darko and J Collins, who basically cancel each other out to me. Cut one of them out and sign the guy;
2) Larry Sanders should be a trade target. The Bucks have more PFs than the Hall of Fame, and need to rebuild completely. If The Colonel could learn to reduce his foul rate, he could be lethal as a weak side rim defender in the Celtics system, then run the floor on the break with RR. There's no better mentor for a player like him than KG. Trade Melo for him.
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At this point, unless they have serious injuries, they should only be looking to trade for big men, if they can get a real upgrade (like a Smith or Varajao type), not just another end of the rotation player. Otherwise, work on getting the guys you have up to speed.
I'd agree with this.
We already have enough low-cost bigs. Doc just needs to play them, particularly WIlcox (maybe Darko too).
If we're making a trade, it needs to be for a game changer.
Ideally, it'd be a game changing big man (like Varejao or a Josh Smith) but I would be happy with a lesser option.
To acquire a solid starting PF (Ty Thomas) to go alongside Garnett or a high level backup C (?) to spell Garnett. I think adding a more solid option in either area (starting PF, backup C) would give the team a nice boost. Get Garnett some more help defensively.
Here's the problem. Ty Thomas is not a solid starting PF. He has always been a bench guy and spot starter at best, and that is when he can stay healthy.
As an energy guy off the bench, I can see an argument, but there is zero evidence that he can be even an average starter.
I disagree, I consider Ty Thomas a solid starting PF. Below average but solid. Probably in that 18th to 22nd type range amongst starting PFs.
Excellent athleticism. Strong defensive player. Very active on team defense. Creates turnovers. Solid rebounding. A solid midrange and long two point jump-shot to provide adequate floor spacing. Excellent finisher in transition and around the basket. Draws fouls and get to the foul line.
Tyrus Thomas has some problems but his strengths more than make up for his weaknesses. He is a very solid option as a starting PF. Tyrus Thomas has the athleticism, defense / rebounding and skill-level required to be a starting caliber PF.
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At this point, unless they have serious injuries, they should only be looking to trade for big men, if they can get a real upgrade (like a Smith or Varajao type), not just another end of the rotation player. Otherwise, work on getting the guys you have up to speed.
I'd agree with this.
We already have enough low-cost bigs. Doc just needs to play them, particularly WIlcox (maybe Darko too).
If we're making a trade, it needs to be for a game changer.
Ideally, it'd be a game changing big man (like Varejao or a Josh Smith) but I would be happy with a lesser option.
To acquire a solid starting PF (Ty Thomas) to go alongside Garnett or a high level backup C (?) to spell Garnett. I think adding a more solid option in either area (starting PF, backup C) would give the team a nice boost. Get Garnett some more help defensively.
Here's the problem. Ty Thomas is not a solid starting PF. He has always been a bench guy and spot starter at best, and that is when he can stay healthy.
As an energy guy off the bench, I can see an argument, but there is zero evidence that he can be even an average starter.
I disagree, I consider Ty Thomas a solid starting PF.
Excellent athleticism. Strong defense. Solid rebounding. A solid midrange and long two point jump-shot. Excellent finisher in transition and around the basket. Draws fouls and get to the foul line.
Tyrus Thomas has some problems but his strengths more than make up for his weaknesses. He is a very solid option as a starting PF.
I'm with Chris on this one. Thomas is not close to a solid starting PF in this league. He's all youth and athleticism, something I know you love Who, but he is not a very smart player and has never shown he can fit into a system and take coaching.
Bench energy guy at best.
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At this point, unless they have serious injuries, they should only be looking to trade for big men, if they can get a real upgrade (like a Smith or Varajao type), not just another end of the rotation player. Otherwise, work on getting the guys you have up to speed.
I'd agree with this.
We already have enough low-cost bigs. Doc just needs to play them, particularly WIlcox (maybe Darko too).
If we're making a trade, it needs to be for a game changer.
Ideally, it'd be a game changing big man (like Varejao or a Josh Smith) but I would be happy with a lesser option.
To acquire a solid starting PF (Ty Thomas) to go alongside Garnett or a high level backup C (?) to spell Garnett. I think adding a more solid option in either area (starting PF, backup C) would give the team a nice boost. Get Garnett some more help defensively.
Here's the problem. Ty Thomas is not a solid starting PF. He has always been a bench guy and spot starter at best, and that is when he can stay healthy.
As an energy guy off the bench, I can see an argument, but there is zero evidence that he can be even an average starter.
If Jeff Green continues to stink and becomes essentially unmovable for anything truly desirable, it could make sense to trade him for Thomas. Thomas could be an interesting fit off the bench for the Cs, and his deal is a year shorter than Green's.
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At this point, unless they have serious injuries, they should only be looking to trade for big men, if they can get a real upgrade (like a Smith or Varajao type), not just another end of the rotation player. Otherwise, work on getting the guys you have up to speed.
I'd agree with this.
We already have enough low-cost bigs. Doc just needs to play them, particularly WIlcox (maybe Darko too).
If we're making a trade, it needs to be for a game changer.
Ideally, it'd be a game changing big man (like Varejao or a Josh Smith) but I would be happy with a lesser option.
To acquire a solid starting PF (Ty Thomas) to go alongside Garnett or a high level backup C (?) to spell Garnett. I think adding a more solid option in either area (starting PF, backup C) would give the team a nice boost. Get Garnett some more help defensively.
Here's the problem. Ty Thomas is not a solid starting PF. He has always been a bench guy and spot starter at best, and that is when he can stay healthy.
As an energy guy off the bench, I can see an argument, but there is zero evidence that he can be even an average starter.
I disagree, I consider Ty Thomas a solid starting PF.
Excellent athleticism. Strong defense. Solid rebounding. A solid midrange and long two point jump-shot. Excellent finisher in transition and around the basket. Draws fouls and get to the foul line.
Tyrus Thomas has some problems but his strengths more than make up for his weaknesses. He is a very solid option as a starting PF.
I'm with Chris on this one. Thomas is not close to a solid starting PF in this league. He's all youth and athleticism, something I know you love Who, but he is not a very smart player and has never shown he can fit into a system and take coaching.
Bench energy guy at best.
I think there is enough smarts and skilled play in the Celtics starting unit to make Tyrus Thomas to work as the fifth starter.
On some other teams, I might agree. Not this one though.
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I think there is enough smarts and skilled play in the Celtics starting unit to make Tyrus Thomas to work as the fifth starter.
On some other teams, I might agree. Not this one though.
Disagree
Thomas is just not worth the gamble to me. He is a head case. His upside is easily outweighed by his downside. I'm not sure, even on a team like the C's, Thomas' deficiencies could be masked.
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Brandon Bass is a low BBIQ player too and they make him work just fine.
It's the same situation with Ty Thomas (as with Bass) only Tyrus is a much more talented player than Bass is.
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Brandon Bass is a low BBIQ player too and they make him work just fine.
It's the same situation with Ty Thomas (as with Bass) only Tyrus is a much more talented player than Bass is.
Ty Thomas=Glen Davis
Do we really want to go back?
Bass is a much smarter player, if for no other reason than he knows his own limitations.
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Brandon Bass is a low BBIQ player too and they make him work just fine.
It's the same situation with Ty Thomas (as with Bass) only Tyrus is a much more talented player than Bass is.
And yet Thomas has been a less productive NBA player than Brandon Bass.
If we are going to take a flyer on a "talented" guy who has yet to get it in the NBA, there are much cheaper options than Thomas.
...with that said, I would probably trade Jeff Green for him at this point. I just don't think it would actually solve any issues.
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Brandon Bass is a low BBIQ player too and they make him work just fine.
It's the same situation with Ty Thomas (as with Bass) only Tyrus is a much more talented player than Bass is.
And yet Thomas has been a less productive NBA player than Brandon Bass.
If we are going to take a flyer on a "talented" guy who has yet to get it in the NBA, there are much cheaper options than Thomas.
...with that said, I would probably trade Jeff Green for him at this point. I just don't think it would actually solve any issues.
I disagree with that.
Tyrus Thomas was more effective as a starter in Chicago (where Ty Thomas was a solid starter) than Bass has been as a starter in Orlando or Boston (where Bass proved himself to be a weak starter) + Ty Thomas was more effective as a backup PF in Charlotte (nearly in the sixth man of the year conversation until injured) under Larry Brown than Brandon Bass has ever been (very good but never elite bench player, more of a 7th or 8th man than a 6th man).
If I were trading for Tyrus Thomas, it would be Brandon Bass that I would be looking to move for him. Not Jeff Green. Kind for kind, power forward for power forward. I would want to keep Jeff Green for matchup reasons against Miami and/or because I think he has more value than that as a trade asset (well, hopefully). I don't think a Tyrus for Green trade benefits Boston. Bass for Tyrus, that I'd be interested in.
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Brandon Bass is a low BBIQ player too and they make him work just fine.
It's the same situation with Ty Thomas (as with Bass) only Tyrus is a much more talented player than Bass is.
And yet Thomas has been a less productive NBA player than Brandon Bass.
If we are going to take a flyer on a "talented" guy who has yet to get it in the NBA, there are much cheaper options than Thomas.
...with that said, I would probably trade Jeff Green for him at this point. I just don't think it would actually solve any issues.
I disagree with that too.
Tyrus Thomas was more effective as a starter in Chicago (where Ty Thomas was a solid starter) than Bass has been as a starter in Orlando or Boston (where Bass proved himself to be a weak starter) + Ty Thomas was more effective as a backup PF in Charlotte (nearly in the sixth man of the year conversation until injured) under Larry Brown than Brandon Bass has ever been (very good but never elite bench player, more of a 7th or 8th man than a 6th man).
If I were trading for Tyrus Thomas, it would be Brandon Bass that I would be looking to move for him. Not Jeff Green. Kind for kind, power forward for power forward. I would want to keep Jeff Green for matchup reasons against Miami and/or because I think he has more value than that as a trade asset (well, hopefully). I don't think a Tyrus for Green trade benefits Boston. Bass for Tyrus, that I'd be interested in.
Well, I said Green, because I think (as of right now) Green has negative trade value, because of his contract, much like Thomas does. But Thomas' contract is shorter.
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I agree that Thomas was better at peak performance than Bass ever was. Not quite the mid-range shooter Bass is, but a better presence on the boards and at the rim defensively + more versatile defensively.
I'm just a little worried that he may have been broken as a player by injury/lockout/Bobcats disease/coach fallout.
But a KG/Thomas/Sullinger big rotation is much preferable to KG/Bass/Sullinger if Thomas isn't broken - keeps length, speed and shot-blocking on the floor at all times and makes Sully less of a defensive problem.
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Tyrus Thomas wont ever be the guy he was back in his Bulls days he looks like a borderline scrub from all the times Ive seen him
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Once Bradley comes back healthy, a mid-season trade of Bass, Lee, Sullinger, and a first-round pick to New Orleans for Jason Smith and Ryan Anderson.
There is no way I do that. Anderson is overrated and Smith is a Darko without any hype. Giving up all of our trading chips for mediocre bigs makes no sense. If we're trading for a center let's target Gortat or Cousins.
Anderson is a better player than Al Jefferson or Amare Stoudemire. Jason Smith knows what to do if D-Wade tries to pull a punk move on Rondo.
This is asinine. Ryan Anderson is not a better player than Al Jefferson as evidenced by their salaries and production.
And I guess if by "knows what to do" you mean "gets suspended for 15+ games" then yeah I guess I'm willing to give up Bass/Lee/Sully for a guy who will hammer you. Oh wait I'm pretty sure Darko can and will already do that. Remember he offered to kill someone...
Two thoughts:
1) I maintain as I have for months I'd rather have Kenyon Martin on this team than have the combo of Darko and J Collins, who basically cancel each other out to me. Cut one of them out and sign the guy;
2) Larry Sanders should be a trade target. The Bucks have more PFs than the Hall of Fame, and need to rebuild completely. If The Colonel could learn to reduce his foul rate, he could be lethal as a weak side rim defender in the Celtics system, then run the floor on the break with RR. There's no better mentor for a player like him than KG. Trade Melo for him.
I love this idea. If the Bucks would take it I would really like to see Larry Sanders as a big on the Cs. I've always liked his length and he's very cheap (2M, 3M and 4M over the next 3). If he pans out he's a steal, if he doesn't he's a low risk bet.
Melo for him is a get, I'd do Melo and a 2nd rounder.
TP for the idea. I wanted Mbah a Moute too. Maybe a Sanders/Moute for Lee/Melo trade would work. I'm not sure if that is enough and I'd give a first to make it happen. This wouldn't be possible until after January 15th anyway so Bradley would be back in full swing I expect.