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Title: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: FLCeltsFan on November 06, 2012, 03:50:56 PM
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Washington Wizards (0-2) at Boston Celtics (1-2) 
Wednesday, November 7,2012
7:30 PM ET
Regular Season Game #4  Home Game #2
TV:  CSN-NE, Comcast Sportsnet, NBA-LP 753 (Wiz)/754(C's)
Radio:  WEEI,  WJFK
TD Garden 

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Probable Starters
PG (http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/3026.jpg) SG (http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/courtney_lee.jpg) SF (http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/662.jpg) PF (http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jared_sullinger.jpg) C (http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/kevin_garnett.jpg)
Rajon Rondo...Courtney Lee...Paul Pierce...Jared Sullinger...Kevin Garnett

Celtics Reserves
Brandon Bass
Jason Collins
Jason Terry
Jeff Green
Kris Joseph
Fab Melo
Darko Milicic
Leandro Barbosa
Chris Wilcox

Injuries
Avery Bradley (shoulders) out

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Probable Starters
PG (http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/aj_price.jpg) SG (http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/bradley_beal.jpg) SF (http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/trevor_ariza.jpg) PF (http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/trevor_booker.jpg) C (http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/emeka_okafor.jpg)
AJ Price....Bradley Beal....Trevor Ariza....Trevor Booker.... Emeka Okafor


Wizards Reserves

Jan Vesely
Martell Webster
Jordan Crawford
Chris Singleton
Jannero Pargo
Earl Barron
Cartier Martin
Kevin Seraphin

Injured
Nene (foot) out
Jordan Crawford (ankle) probable
John Wall (Patella) out 

Team Connections
Wizards Assistant Coach Sam Cassell played for the Celtics during the 2007-08 season and was a member of the 2008 NBA Championship team
Kevin Garnett played for Wizards Head Coach Randy Wittman in Minnesota in 2007
Garnett and Cassell were teammates in Minnesota from 2003-05
John Wall and Rajon Rondo both attended the University of Kentucky
Fab Melo, Leandro Barbosa and Nene are natives of Brazil
Chris Wilcox and Sam Cassell were teammates on the LA Clippers during the 2005-06 season
Darko Milicic and Trevor Ariza were teammates in Orlando from 2005-07
Martell Webster and Darko Milicic were teammates in Minnesota from 2010-12.

Game Notes
The Celtics complete a home and home set with the Wizards as they try to climb to .500 after an 0-2 start.  The Celtics started the game in Washington very strong but faded toward the end, allowing the Wizards to make it a close game and almost steal it. 

The Celtics were playing in back to back games on the road, which may have been a factor.  Doc said he wasn't happy with the team's conditioning and ran them through conditioning drills in practice.   Doc also talked about the need for consistency. 

Both teams have had 3 days off prior to this game and so fatigue shouldn't be a factor, unless Doc has worn the team out with the conditioning drills.   The Celtics have also struggled to regain their defensive focus and will look to regain their reputation as one of the top defensive teams in the league starting with this game. 

Jared Sullinger moved into the starting lineup in the last game and was somewhat successful there and although it's never certain these days, I expect him to remain there for this game as well.  Word out of practice on Tuesday was that Sully was practicing with the first team while Brandon Bass was with the second unit.

Key Matchups
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Rajon Rondo vs AJ Price
 As Rondo goes so go the Celtics.  With former number 1 pick John Wall out, Rondo should have a much easier time against AJ Price.,  Rondo needs to be aggressive and to be make sure that they play team ball and not hero ball. 

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Paul Pierce vs Trevor Ariza
Pierce had a very strong game against the Wizards on Saturday and hopefully he can again lead the Celtics to a win in this one.   

Honorable Mention
Courtney Lee vs Bradley Beal
Lee struggled somewhat in the first game against the Wizards, shooting just 2-7 from the field.  He vowed to play better in this game and so hopefully he will find his shot in this game.   

Keys to the Game
Defense    Defense always wins games.  The Celtics have to make defense their priority and shut down the paint as well as staying on their outside shooters.  The Celtics haven't been able to establish that lock down defense that they have been famous for since KG joined the team. 

Rebound  The Celtics must crash the boards and keep the Wizards from getting second chance points, fast break opportunities and extra possessions.   As I have said before, when the Celtics put out the effort necessary to win the battle of the boards, that effort seems to pick up every area of their game as well.    Sully's presence in the starting lineup helps but someone needs to step up on the second unit and crash the boards. 

Be Aggressive  The Celtics need to play aggressively.  They need to take the ball to the hoop and try to get to the line early and often.   Make the officials call the fouls.  They also have to go for every loose ball and battle for all the rebounds.   If they play passively, they could be facing a loss to a team that is hungry for their first win.    The Celtics were aggressive in the first half of the last game but then let up and played passively in the second half.  They need to be consistent throughout the game.   

Bench Play
The Bench was supposed to be the Celtics strength but so far, they have disappointed and have been outscored by their opponents in each of the first 3 games.  They need to find their offense and also some consistency. 
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 06, 2012, 04:43:50 PM
woo hoo .........HERE WE GO CELTICS !!!

TP  threadster !
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: ACF on November 07, 2012, 07:34:48 AM
Another GT, another TP.

GO CELTICS!
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: perks-a-beast on November 07, 2012, 09:03:01 AM
wizards should start  Seraphin, they were so much better with him in the game.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: celticslove on November 07, 2012, 09:30:37 AM
TP sir! hope that we could finally start a streak
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Eddie20 on November 07, 2012, 09:31:10 AM
wizards should start  Seraphin, they were so much better with him in the game.


Kevin Seraphin (calf) out

He's listed as out, but that's probably a mistake.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Jon Niednagel on November 07, 2012, 09:58:49 AM
TP sir! hope that we could finally start a streak

FYI, if the TP was for FLCF, then you should say Ma'am not sir. TP to you for using manners regardless.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Jon Niednagel on November 07, 2012, 10:01:28 AM
Let's go Celtics!
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: FLCeltsFan on November 07, 2012, 10:07:46 AM
wizards should start  Seraphin, they were so much better with him in the game.


Kevin Seraphin (calf) out

He's listed as out, but that's probably a mistake.
Yep, when I made the thread he was listed as out but it was a mistake because he's not on the list now.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: FLCeltsFan on November 07, 2012, 01:22:59 PM

Official Report
Monty McCutchen
Monty McCutchen has officiated 1,138 regular season, 94 playoff, and six Finals games. He worked the 2007 NBA All-Star Game in Las Vegas and was a member of the crews that officiated the 1996 and 1997 Mexico Challenges, as well as the 1998 Schick Rookie Game. Prior to joining the NBA, McCutchen spent four seasons in the CBA, where he worked the All Star game his second year and the playoffs all four years. He also officiated the CBA Finals the last three years he was with the league. McCutchen missed the 1998-99 season with a ruptured Achilles tendon. He is a former elementary and middle school teacher and is fondly remembered by his students as a really nice guy. In searching for information on him, I found a Cavs' blog that blamed a loss to the Celtics on the officiating of Monty McCutchen. That was the game where Mike Brown was ejected and the Cavs made a furious comeback but fell short. In game 2 of the WCF, McCutchen flipped out on someone and yelled "I'm running this game not you!" as Serge Ibaka went to the line for free throws. Other than that, there's not a lot of controversy about him. The Celtics are 6-4 in their last 10 games and 0-1 this season with McCutchen on the court. He officiated the Heat game to open the season. Needless to say, he allowed Wade and Battier to grab and shove off and foul all game, which led to Rondo's flagrant on Wade out of frustration. The Wizards are 2-8 in their last 10 games with McCutchen. His home W/L record this season is 2-1.

 Bennie Adams
 A former math instructor at Southern University, Bennie Adams joined the NBA officiating staff 18 seasons ago, and since then has officiated 956 regular season and seven playoff games. In addition, he has been a USA Basketball official since 1995. Adams has also officiated the 2008 NBA Europe Live Tour and the 2002 NBA All Star Rookie Challenge. Adams officiated in the CBA for three years, and worked the 1996 CBA Finals. He also has three years of collegiate officiating experience in the Southeastern, Ohio Valley, Trans America Athletic and Southwestern Athletic Conferences. Adams also has 10 years of high school officiating experience in Louisiana. Adams has both a Masters and Bachelors degree in mathematics from Southern University.

Adams tends to be inconsistent especially on charge/block calls. He is one of Tommy Heinsohn's least favorites. In one game, Tommy went ballistic yelling at the top of his lungs "GO BACK TO YOUR MOMMA BENNIE ADAMS!!!" This is Adam's first game with the Celtics this season and they are 6-4 in their last 10 with Adams on the court. The 4 games he officiated for the Celtics last season were all called fairly even. The Wizards are also 6-4 in their last 10 games with Adams. His home team W/L record this season is 0-3.

Kevin Scott
 Kevin Scott enters his second NBA season having officiated 28 regular season games. Scottís experience includes four seasons and 138 games officiated in the NBA DLeague where he officiated the playoffs in 2009, 2010, 2011 and was selected to work the NBA DLeague Finals in 2011. Scottís collegiate experience includes four years in the Southeastern Conference, 10 years in the Atlantic Sun Conference, six years in the Southern Conference, and seven years in the Big South Conference. He was also one of the replacement officials during the referee lockout in 2009. He may be remembered for ejecting Bobcats'coach Larry Brown from an exhibition game that season and then calling security to escort him from the court when he didn't leave quickly enough for Scott. Brown was fined $60,000 for verbally abusing Scott.

This will be Scott's third career game for the Celtics and the Celtics are 2-0 with Scott in his career. The first was a win over NJ where the Nets shot 28 free throws to 17 for the Celtics. The second was against the Bobcats where the Celtics shot 45 free throws to 35 for Charlotte and every play seemed to result in a foul. The Wizards are 0-6 with Scott all time. His home W/L record this season is 1-0.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Fafnir on November 07, 2012, 07:44:00 PM
Away we go. Pierce starting early.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 07, 2012, 07:49:45 PM
Lee remains cold. It has to be too much thinking. I think in a week Lee will snap out of this.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: tgreanier on November 07, 2012, 07:54:13 PM
I really like the Jet. I would really like the Jet to earn my admiration tonight.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on November 07, 2012, 07:57:44 PM
KG doesn't really HAVE to rest, right??
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Kane3387 on November 07, 2012, 08:01:00 PM
The storm is messing with my satellite and thus league pass. Internet is working though. Anyone know where I can find a live stream of this game?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on November 07, 2012, 08:04:11 PM
Wizards aint even shootin good from da field i have no idea how dis game is so close at da moment
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on November 07, 2012, 08:04:55 PM
KG with 9 rebounds in the first quarter lol
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on November 07, 2012, 08:06:14 PM
The storm is messing with my satellite and thus league pass. Internet is working though. Anyone know where I can find a live stream of this game?

Thanks!

First row sports..using it right now
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Kane3387 on November 07, 2012, 08:10:10 PM
The storm is messing with my satellite and thus league pass. Internet is working though. Anyone know where I can find a live stream of this game?

Thanks!

First row sports..using it right now

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 07, 2012, 08:11:03 PM
KG playing great ball tonight.  Biggest problem has been mostly missing makeable shots.  D and O with KG on the bench not good again.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: j804 on November 07, 2012, 08:12:41 PM
Come on Green don't throw it to KG and make him bailout everybody be aggressive smh
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on November 07, 2012, 08:16:50 PM
Jeff green is invisible, yet again..
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 08:17:56 PM
Just a horrendous basketball Game. Can't wait until the Celtics start playing well.  This is sickening.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: celticinorlando on November 07, 2012, 08:19:55 PM
Three point shooting is non existent
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: celticinorlando on November 07, 2012, 08:21:24 PM
Kg goes out...defense falls to pieces
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 08:22:49 PM
This lineup is a joke, especially on the defensive end.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: celticinorlando on November 07, 2012, 08:24:01 PM
This team just is not improving. Turnovers....poor defense and stagnant offense
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: tgreanier on November 07, 2012, 08:24:58 PM
I do not understand why this team cannot put a decent game together. I understand they will need some time to gel, but this is the wizards...it should not be this tough. This should be a game they win BIG. I cannot figure out what this team is about.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 08:25:21 PM
Maybe the Celts can rent out  their bigs on a game by game basis since they are not going to play them.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: celticinorlando on November 07, 2012, 08:26:35 PM
I mean it is painful to watch. Defense is just bad
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Celticsdiva on November 07, 2012, 08:27:06 PM
I am not happy!
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: celticinorlando on November 07, 2012, 08:28:44 PM
Disguisting
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 08:31:39 PM
So far, Jeff Green is one of the biggest non-impact players I have ever seen
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: tgreanier on November 07, 2012, 08:32:07 PM
KG is a monster tonight, but everyone else is slacking bad. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 08:33:31 PM
Brutal and embarrassing. So glad I could not make it tonight and had to give away my tickets.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Swoopz on November 07, 2012, 08:34:26 PM
Rondo and KG the only ones really doing anything out there right now. When Rondo goes out, the offense drops, when KG goes out, the defense.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: JoT on November 07, 2012, 08:36:49 PM
They're really struggling against the Wizards? The Wizards without John Wall and Nene?
This season is gonna be a bumpy ride for real.

If I were KG I would go off on every single one of them in the lockerroom. He's playing well while the rest aren't.
I don't know what's gonna need to happen, but the lack of chemistry and jelling excuse can only stand for so long. There's no reason why they can't get it together after all of the time they've been playing together.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on November 07, 2012, 08:38:02 PM
idk wats goin on wit these guys rite now after a 4 day layoff we shouldnt look dis poor, guard da 3 point line nd Pierce nd Green gotta get more aggressive
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 07, 2012, 08:39:43 PM
Brutal and embarrassing. So glad I could not make it tonight and had to give away my tickets.

Yes -- the players have to be embarrassed about htis performance.   Pierce looks unsure every time he touches the ball, Rondo is a lot of fancy nothing tonight, Green is asleep, Terry uncomfortable and Lee cannot buy a jump shot.  KG has been a monster and Bass is playing well.  Sully -- not much impact at al tonight.

This is yuck once again, but I am stil counting on the talent rising.  I agree with those who are confused about the lack of bigs --- hopefully, Doc has a master plan.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Big Rondo on November 07, 2012, 08:40:49 PM
Keep KG and trade the rest  >:(
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Kwhit10 on November 07, 2012, 08:45:58 PM
Call me after the all-star break...
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: crimson_stallion on November 07, 2012, 08:47:05 PM
Paraquote from Doc:

"You can never have too many big bodies"

Really?  Because apparently we can't find a single minute for anyone who's 7 feet tall...!
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Mr October on November 07, 2012, 08:51:39 PM
There are a lot of new bodies on this team. Its going to take a while to get in sync. Even before the season started I figured the first 10 games were gonna be mediocre and bumpy.

I'm just following the updates online. Is the effort really bad, or are they just out of sync?
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Donoghus on November 07, 2012, 08:53:01 PM
Painful to watch.

They look lethargic and out of synch.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 08:53:26 PM
No fire. No interest. No chemistry. No nothing. They will likely win this, but just awful to watch.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 08:55:27 PM
There are a lot of new bodies on this team. Its going to take a while to get in sync. Even before the season started I figured the first 10 games were gonna be mediocre and bumpy.

I'm just following the updates online. Is the effort really bad, or are they just out of sync?

Bumpy, yes. But without Wall and Nene, the Wizards are the worst team in the league. This type of performance is inexcusable.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 08:57:11 PM
The lack of effort is astounding.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: apc on November 07, 2012, 09:00:52 PM
i am starting to doubt my self.
is it possible that as Celtics fans we see everything in green and think our team is so awesome when it really sucks??? ???
 
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: tgreanier on November 07, 2012, 09:04:34 PM
i am starting to doubt my self.
is it possible that as Celtics fans we see everything in green and think our team is so awesome when it really sucks??? ???

Yes. Yes it is.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Donoghus on November 07, 2012, 09:05:01 PM
Go on some kind of run, will ya?
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 07, 2012, 09:05:23 PM
i am starting to doubt my self.
is it possible that as Celtics fans we see everything in green and think our team is so awesome when it really sucks??? ???

The team doesn't suck.  We've had crappy regular season effort before but we always make a run when it counts.

But we kinda suck so far this year, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Big Rondo on November 07, 2012, 09:05:57 PM
WE WANT SMITH

WE WANT SMITH
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 09:06:41 PM
Amazing. Wizards have not taken a free throw.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Donoghus on November 07, 2012, 09:07:23 PM
Bass is trying.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 09:08:59 PM
i am starting to doubt my self.
is it possible that as Celtics fans we see everything in green and think our team is so awesome when it really sucks??? ???

The team doesn't suck.  We've had crappy regular season effort before but we always make a run when it counts.

But we kinda suck so far this year, that's for sure.

Team doesn't suck, but I am starting to wonder if there might b a lot of mismatched parts.  Only game 4, but I can't believe how bad they have been.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: biggbird on November 07, 2012, 09:09:48 PM
Still don't think we're getting enough dribble penetration, though it looks better than last game.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: crimson_stallion on November 07, 2012, 09:10:56 PM
It seems we have two guys on our roster who are being paid - KG and Rondo.

They are the only two guys who have shown up to some degree in every game. 

Actually that's not true, Pierce has gotten to the line 7 times so I can't really point the finger at him either.

Everyone on this team outside of those three guys have pretty much been utterly useless.

Bass and Sullinger are...borderline.

Though I have to say, it is encouraging to see out FG% has now gone above 40%.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 09:11:55 PM
Finally. Some life.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Donoghus on November 07, 2012, 09:13:35 PM
Wilcox lighting a fire under this team right now.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Donoghus on November 07, 2012, 09:14:30 PM
The Jet!
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: crimson_stallion on November 07, 2012, 09:15:56 PM
Thank you MR Terry!!

Good to see Wilcox getting a few points on the board too.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: albas89 on November 07, 2012, 09:16:34 PM
Wilcox to the savior...
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 07, 2012, 09:17:24 PM
Promising finish.  Wilcox and Jet doing work.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Big Rondo on November 07, 2012, 09:17:31 PM
If Doc had any common sense, he would STOP with the small ball and keep one of KG/Wilcox/Darko/Collins in the game at ALL times.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 07, 2012, 09:17:43 PM
don't tell me.....Jeff Green still sucks.....

Josh Smith  help us !!!!
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 07, 2012, 09:19:16 PM
A lineup that worked. Yay.

I do think that Doc knows about the bigs issue. He is experimenting and is smart to do it now.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: AB_Celtic on November 07, 2012, 09:21:26 PM
It looks like all we needed was some Wilcox.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 07, 2012, 09:21:26 PM
Wilcox VERY VERY good stint on both ends.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Kwhit10 on November 07, 2012, 09:22:07 PM
Thank you MR Terry!!

Good to see Wilcox getting a few points on the board too.

Yea nice to see him back.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: crimson_stallion on November 07, 2012, 09:22:25 PM
Currently 29 points from our bench...thats a bit more like it, but still work to do
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Mr October on November 07, 2012, 09:22:30 PM
There are a lot of new bodies on this team. Its going to take a while to get in sync. Even before the season started I figured the first 10 games were gonna be mediocre and bumpy.

I'm just following the updates online. Is the effort really bad, or are they just out of sync?

Bumpy, yes. But without Wall and Nene, the Wizards are the worst team in the league. This type of performance is inexcusable.

agreed
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 07, 2012, 09:23:19 PM
Terry with another miss but follows with good hustle and heads-up play.


Go Leandro
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Big Rondo on November 07, 2012, 09:26:49 PM
Does Jeff Green ever plan on proving his critics wrong? ::)
The guy might honestly be as bad as advertised.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 09:29:10 PM
Each game, the Jeff Green contract looks worse. The guy appears to be afraid of his own shadow.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 07, 2012, 09:29:48 PM
Frustrating.

Offense just seems so disconnected and uncomortable.  Nice stretch by Terry but the C's somehow go from up 11 to now probably up 4.  Wow.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 07, 2012, 09:30:57 PM
Each game, the Jeff Green contract looks worse. The guy appears to be afraid of his own shadow.

So far.  I'll give the guy some time off of heart surgery.  Wilcox does looks ready to bang though.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 09:32:32 PM
Each game, the Jeff Green contract looks worse. The guy appears to be afraid of his own shadow.

So far.  I'll give the guy some time off of heart surgery.  Wilcox does looks ready to bang though.

Paying a guy $9 million a year to make cameo appearances so far.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 07, 2012, 09:34:45 PM
Really hoping this stretch we are in the midst of becomes a memory soon. Not sure I can stand watching much more of this.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 07, 2012, 09:38:54 PM
Terry with a chance to explode the garden. And moments later Wiz looking like a winner tonight.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Big Rondo on November 07, 2012, 09:39:31 PM
Everything is a jump shot.

Haven't I seen this somewhere before?
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 09:39:46 PM
Currently, this team is absolute garbage. Already sick of hearing about all the new guys excuse. Four of the starting 5 started last year.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 07, 2012, 09:39:54 PM
holy smokes the C's suck ... just wow....no defense
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: celticinorlando on November 07, 2012, 09:40:28 PM
Can't ever get a stop anymore. Pretty sad
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: apc on November 07, 2012, 09:41:25 PM
for the time being they should stop the "I AM A CELTIC" commercials.
 
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: celticinorlando on November 07, 2012, 09:42:16 PM
Hero ball for everyone. No offense just long bricks
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 07, 2012, 09:42:38 PM
bricksters
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 09:43:25 PM
They have no clue what they are doing on either end of the court.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: celticinorlando on November 07, 2012, 09:44:45 PM
Worst Celtic defense. Just horrible

Horrible tech
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: letsgoblue86 on November 07, 2012, 09:44:58 PM
KG always has to give someone the last little shove...jesus
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 07, 2012, 09:45:34 PM
do we have coach
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 07, 2012, 09:47:06 PM
I give em (some) props - no chemistry or rhythm tonight but they are absolutely scrapping and scratching right now.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 09:48:12 PM
I give em (some) props - no chemistry or rhythm tonight but they are absolutely scrapping and scratching right now.

Awesome. Scrapping to eek out a home win against the worst team in the league.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Mr October on November 07, 2012, 09:48:42 PM
Currently, this team is absolute garbage. Already sick of hearing about all the new guys excuse. Four of the starting 5 started last year.

Those 4 guys are the only rotation hold overs from last season when things were clicking. It will take time to get the chemistry right. Nonetheless, there is no excuse for not bringing the effort.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 07, 2012, 09:49:27 PM
I give em (some) props - no chemistry or rhythm tonight but they are absolutely scrapping and scratching right now.

Awesome. Scrapping to eek out a home win against the worst team in the league.

Not awesome at all.  But it beats sucking all night and rolling over at the end.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: crimson_stallion on November 07, 2012, 09:50:43 PM
Can't really complain about Terry.  He's scored at least 8 points off the bench in each of our first 4 games so far, and he's about the only guy outside of our big 3 who has given us that type of consistent output. 

It's not exactly 6MOTY worthy, but at least he's consistently productive.

Courtney Lee has looked worse every game he's played..
Game 1: 11 points, 5-6 FG, 1-1 3PT
Game 2: 7 points, 3-7 FG, 1-3 3PT
Game 3: 4 points, 2-7 FG, 0-4 3PT
Game 4 (so far): 2 points, 0-3 FG, 0-1 3PT

I understand that guys are trying to find their groove, but this is just rediculous.  He should be getting better with each game, not dramatically worse.

If I'm Doc I'd be very seriously considering staring Terry and benching Lee.  His performance has been utterly woeful.

Right now the only guys who have even come CLOSE to earning their contracts over the first 4 games have been

- Garnett
- Rondo
- Pierce
- Terry
- Bass (at least he's rebounding)
- Sullinger (it's a rookie contact)

Lee right now hasn't earned a spot on the active roster, let alone the starting lineup.  I'd rather see Melo out there then Lee the way he's playing...at least Melo will TRY.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 07, 2012, 09:51:00 PM
Seeing some heart , but NO ..ZERO chemistry
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Kwhit10 on November 07, 2012, 09:51:09 PM
Nice stop but why I wish it wasn't Rondo who was fouled.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 09:52:42 PM
The stupid things this team is doing are incomprehensible
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: JoT on November 07, 2012, 09:53:47 PM
Currently, this team is absolute garbage. Already sick of hearing about all the new guys excuse. Four of the starting 5 started last year.

Those 4 guys are the only rotation hold overs from last season when things were clicking. It will take time to get the chemistry right. Nonetheless, there is no excuse for not bringing the effort.
The bold is where I completely agree.
I don't understand the lack of effort and the inconsistencies that this team always seem to have. It's like they will play great for 3 minutes then the next they lose focus and effort is gone. 
They should not have to scrape for a win in the first place if the effort would have stayed when they went up 11.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: bfrombleacher on November 07, 2012, 09:54:15 PM
RONDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: letsgoblue86 on November 07, 2012, 09:54:19 PM
Hehe there you go Rondo
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 07, 2012, 09:54:28 PM
my heart stopped on Rondos shot   gezzzz
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 09:55:00 PM
Nice defense. You have to be kidding me.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: celticinorlando on November 07, 2012, 09:55:23 PM
My god where is the defense?
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: letsgoblue86 on November 07, 2012, 09:56:09 PM
What the...?  At least foul him KG
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Big Rondo on November 07, 2012, 09:56:17 PM
WE WANT SMITH

WE WANT SMITH
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 07, 2012, 09:57:48 PM
OMG...  COACH?????
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 09:57:55 PM
That was a great play. What  is going on? And why is Green in the game?
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: celticinorlando on November 07, 2012, 09:58:10 PM
That is the best we get? Just horrible
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Big Rondo on November 07, 2012, 09:58:19 PM
Rondo iso for the game. Just like Doc drew it up  ;)
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: letsgoblue86 on November 07, 2012, 09:58:50 PM
You've got to be kidding me

Nice play Doc
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Kwhit10 on November 07, 2012, 09:58:56 PM
That last play...ugh
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: celticinorlando on November 07, 2012, 09:59:22 PM
Jeff green is captain invisible
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: CelticsFan9 on November 07, 2012, 09:59:29 PM
OT.  Bring it home, guys.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: edwardjkasche on November 07, 2012, 09:59:39 PM
What the HELL was Rondo doing??????????

Singleton isnít going to shoot a three.

Why did Rondo bite so hard on Singleton up top?

[dang it]. All he had to do was stay on Beal and let Bass recover on Singleton.

THAT is an example of Rondoís horrible defensive IQ sometimes.
 
And, then Rondo settles for a 3.

Sometimes heís not encouraging.

All Rondo needs to do is drive and get fouled.

Hit one free throw and itís over.

What a horrible minute of ball by Rondo.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: edwardjkasche on November 07, 2012, 10:00:42 PM
p.s. I had NO idea that adding extra question marks meant a face thing was going to pop up.  That's odd.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: crimson_stallion on November 07, 2012, 10:01:21 PM
Is it just me, or does Bass look bigger and slower this year?  He looked almost as slow as Sullinger on those defensive rotations just then.  I don't think even Darko would have been much slower than that!

I'm starting to wonder if maybe Boston have too much talent to the point where nobody really gets what they are supposed to be doing...

Maybe we'd actually be better off if we had Terry, Green and a bunch of scrap players on our bench (Marquis, Sully, Darko).  At least that way Terry and Green understand that their job is to score, and everbody else knows their job is simply to defend and rebound.

Now we have Terry, Barbosa, Green, Bass coming off the bench - all are scorers, and it seems like they are all just deferring because each of those guys knows the other is a capable scorer. 
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: JoT on November 07, 2012, 10:01:53 PM
 ::) You have got to me kidding me with that last play.
Man I can't believe they have to go into OT with a John Wallless and Neneless Wizards.
I seriously hope this game is the turnaround because this mess is inexcusable.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: celticinorlando on November 07, 2012, 10:02:56 PM
Offense is one guy going one on five
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: letsgoblue86 on November 07, 2012, 10:02:58 PM
This team has never seen a jump shot it didn't like
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: edwardjkasche on November 07, 2012, 10:04:01 PM
Why do we always make nobodies like Singleton look like All Star starters?
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 07, 2012, 10:05:16 PM
green is a joke
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: edwardjkasche on November 07, 2012, 10:05:31 PM
LOVIN Bass' aggressiveness.  That's what is needed on this team.  Take it to the basket.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 10:05:51 PM
Bass, Rondo and KG have been fairly consistent through 4 games. Can they renegotiate Green's contract?
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: butterbeanlove on November 07, 2012, 10:05:59 PM
Is it just me, or does Bass look bigger and slower this year?  He looked almost as slow as Sullinger on those defensive rotations just then.  I don't think even Darko would have been much slower than that!

I'm starting to wonder if maybe Boston have too much talent to the point where nobody really gets what they are supposed to be doing...

Maybe we'd actually be better off if we had Terry, Green and a bunch of scrap players on our bench (Marquis, Sully, Darko).  At least that way Terry and Green understand that their job is to score, and everbody else knows their job is simply to defend and rebound.

Now we have Terry, Barbosa, Green, Bass coming off the bench - all are scorers, and it seems like they are all just deferring because each of those guys knows the other is a capable scorer.

Maybe...I don't even know my role watching on the couch.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Mr October on November 07, 2012, 10:06:18 PM
nice move by Bass!
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: blink on November 07, 2012, 10:06:36 PM
great play Brandon!!!
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: apc on November 07, 2012, 10:06:47 PM
You've got to be kidding me

Nice play Doc
You know how they say on TNT games,Doc always draws good plays coming out of TO.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: edwardjkasche on November 07, 2012, 10:08:02 PM
WHY DOES RONDO BITE SO HARD ON FAKE THREES?

It's not smart defense, regardless of if he gets the block.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: crimson_stallion on November 07, 2012, 10:09:09 PM
Is it just me, or does Bass look bigger and slower this year?  He looked almost as slow as Sullinger on those defensive rotations just then.  I don't think even Darko would have been much slower than that!

I'm starting to wonder if maybe Boston have too much talent to the point where nobody really gets what they are supposed to be doing...

Maybe we'd actually be better off if we had Terry, Green and a bunch of scrap players on our bench (Marquis, Sully, Darko).  At least that way Terry and Green understand that their job is to score, and everbody else knows their job is simply to defend and rebound.

Now we have Terry, Barbosa, Green, Bass coming off the bench - all are scorers, and it seems like they are all just deferring because each of those guys knows the other is a capable scorer.

Maybe...I don't even know my role watching on the couch.

Haha TP for you, my friend!  ;D
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 10:09:25 PM
Looks like a great win  ::)
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: CeltsRoxfan on November 07, 2012, 10:10:07 PM
Bass is great. Love his hustle!
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 07, 2012, 10:10:23 PM
Bass is far better than green
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: JoT on November 07, 2012, 10:10:56 PM
Why do we always make nobodies like Singleton look like All Star starters?
I don't even know myself. I promise this team can make the worst team look amazing and the players no one knows about look like one of the best players in the league.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 10:11:30 PM
Bass is far better than green

And they are stuck with Green all season.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Big Rondo on November 07, 2012, 10:11:35 PM
Bass, Rondo and KG have been fairly consistent through 4 games. Can they renegotiate Green's contract?

They can renegotiate it for Josh Smith  :)
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 10:13:09 PM
Bass, Rondo and KG have been fairly consistent through 4 games. Can they renegotiate Green's contract?

They can renegotiate it for Josh Smith  :)

I do not believe  they can trade Green, but I might be wrong. Not sure why anyone would want him.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 07, 2012, 10:13:31 PM
Bass, Rondo and KG have been fairly consistent through 4 games. Can they renegotiate Green's contract?

They can renegotiate it for Josh Smith  :)

If they want to win ,  They should, but as bad as Green looks he an't worth a wooden nickel
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: celticslove on November 07, 2012, 10:14:21 PM
finally a mini streak. :D long fun game we have here.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: edwardjkasche on November 07, 2012, 10:14:36 PM
re: Green and his contract.

I wrote this a few days ago on Celtics Blog.

http://www.celticsblog.com/2012/11/5/3605076/greens-9-million-salary-ainges-gm-genius (http://www.celticsblog.com/2012/11/5/3605076/greens-9-million-salary-ainges-gm-genius)

Ainge has a plan.  Ainge always has a plan.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: edwardjkasche on November 07, 2012, 10:16:23 PM
Doc just had a word with Beal.

Wonder if it was about his layup at the end or his attempted steal-and-tackle of Pierce with 5 seconds left.

Either way, Beal is learning a lesson.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: vinnie on November 07, 2012, 10:17:08 PM
re: Green and his contract.

I wrote this a few days ago on Celtics Blog.

http://www.celticsblog.com/2012/11/5/3605076/greens-9-million-salary-ainges-gm-genius (http://www.celticsblog.com/2012/11/5/3605076/greens-9-million-salary-ainges-gm-genius)

Ainge has a plan.  Ainge always has a plan.

But I believe they are restricted in terms of trading Green
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: edwardjkasche on November 07, 2012, 10:18:35 PM
Quote
But I believe they are restricted in terms of trading Green

Only until Dec. 15th. 

All off-season free agents can be traded beginning on Dec. 15th, unless they have a no-trade clause, which Green doesn't.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: JoT on November 07, 2012, 10:19:04 PM
This team needs work and someone needs to tell Jeff what he said before the season started about being assertive and aggressive because he has not shown it.
This team has the talent and I just don't understand why it can't connect yet.

I'm obviously not happy about this win. In fact, I'm more mad about this win than Saturday's (was just happy with a win).
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Big Rondo on November 07, 2012, 10:20:06 PM
Quote
But I believe they are restricted in terms of trading Green

Only until Dec. 15th. 

All off-season free agents can be traded beginning on Dec. 15th, unless they have a no-trade clause, which Green doesn't.

Green, Lee, Melo and a 1st for Josh Smith please Danny please get it done.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 07, 2012, 10:21:11 PM
re: Green and his contract.

I wrote this a few days ago on Celtics Blog.

http://www.celticsblog.com/2012/11/5/3605076/greens-9-million-salary-ainges-gm-genius (http://www.celticsblog.com/2012/11/5/3605076/greens-9-million-salary-ainges-gm-genius)

Ainge has a plan.  Ainge always has a plan.

But I believe they are restricted in terms of trading Green

right now I 's be temped
d take Dooling on trade for Green
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on November 07, 2012, 10:32:41 PM
neva felt so disgusted after a win man they gotta play betta iont even kno how they scored 100 points cuz our offense was stuck in da mud all night
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: cman88 on November 07, 2012, 10:33:43 PM
Green will have his games,just watch...the season is still early. I like what i've seen in spurts. he had 11pts the last game....

it was just a few days ago people were saying barbosa was a better pickup than terry and how he was terrible

and now Terry finally showed up...Lee still hasnt really showed up yet

theres going to be some growing pains with this team, but once they understand eachothers tendencies and their roles they'll start to click..hopefully they continue to win as they figure that out

its no coincidence to me that the most consistent players have been Rondo, KG, Bass, Pierce....the 4 players who were on the team all last season
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: European NBA fan on November 07, 2012, 10:36:52 PM
A rare game where the Celtics attacked the rim more than the other team, while they beat us at long range. Nice to win that kind of game.

Jet looked like Jet. I'm not worried about him anymore. He also looked pretty good on defense, although he allowed Price to shoot a couple of long range threes at the end of the shot clock, but heck, I'll take that shot over a drive to the basket any day.

All in all the defense looked better and more coordinated than before the minibreak.

I still love the Rondo-Wilcox chemistry (six points in less than four minutes for Wilcox). It could do wonders for Green, if he developed a bit of that.

Not a great game by Green, but I still don't get the hate. Six points and two rebounds are not a lot, but compared to Lee he was almost spectacular. There weren't that many shots to go around today.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: apc on November 07, 2012, 10:45:15 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Wilcox play with the starters.
he did good in a very few minutes.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 07, 2012, 10:46:56 PM
Green is a let down...Doc was P O'd
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on November 07, 2012, 11:02:08 PM
Quote
But I believe they are restricted in terms of trading Green

Only until Dec. 15th. 

All off-season free agents can be traded beginning on Dec. 15th, unless they have a no-trade clause, which Green doesn't.

Green, Lee, Melo and a 1st for Josh Smith please Danny please get it done.

What is everybody's love affair with josh smith? I'll never understand. People on this blog act like he's some kind of savior, been seeing his name for 2 years now. The guy is a tweener who relies on his athleticism and has a very undisciplined shot selection...
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 07, 2012, 11:15:01 PM
Chris Wilcox  ..gets TP for his outstanding minutes.


Wilcox and AB will make this team alot better in a few months
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: letsgoblue86 on November 07, 2012, 11:21:46 PM
Quote
But I believe they are restricted in terms of trading Green

Only until Dec. 15th. 

All off-season free agents can be traded beginning on Dec. 15th, unless they have a no-trade clause, which Green doesn't.

Green, Lee, Melo and a 1st for Josh Smith please Danny please get it done.

What is everybody's love affair with josh smith? I'll never understand. People on this blog act like he's some kind of savior, been seeing his name for 2 years now. The guy is a tweener who relies on his athleticism and has a very undisciplined shot selection...
"Undisciplined shot selection"

The greatest description one could use with Josh Smith.

Loves chucking up those deep outside shots that clank off the back rim.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: celticslove on November 08, 2012, 12:05:05 AM
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But I believe they are restricted in terms of trading Green

Only until Dec. 15th. 

All off-season free agents can be traded beginning on Dec. 15th, unless they have a no-trade clause, which Green doesn't.

Green, Lee, Melo and a 1st for Josh Smith please Danny please get it done.

What is everybody's love affair with josh smith? I'll never understand. People on this blog act like he's some kind of savior, been seeing his name for 2 years now. The guy is a tweener who relies on his athleticism and has a very undisciplined shot selection...
this. i really don't understand the great need for this player. no go to move and attempts a lot of head scratching shot. we can get the same hustle or more from chris wilcox if healthy.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: KGs Knee on November 08, 2012, 12:29:02 AM
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But I believe they are restricted in terms of trading Green

Only until Dec. 15th. 

All off-season free agents can be traded beginning on Dec. 15th, unless they have a no-trade clause, which Green doesn't.

Green, Lee, Melo and a 1st for Josh Smith please Danny please get it done.

What is everybody's love affair with josh smith? I'll never understand. People on this blog act like he's some kind of savior, been seeing his name for 2 years now. The guy is a tweener who relies on his athleticism and has a very undisciplined shot selection...
this. i really don't understand the great need for this player. no go to move and attempts a lot of head scratching shot. we can get the same hustle or more from chris wilcox if healthy.

Defense and rebounding.  He is elite at both.  His offense comes and goes, but he is a 15PPG player.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: syfy9 on November 08, 2012, 01:02:54 AM
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But I believe they are restricted in terms of trading Green

Only until Dec. 15th. 

All off-season free agents can be traded beginning on Dec. 15th, unless they have a no-trade clause, which Green doesn't.

Green, Lee, Melo and a 1st for Josh Smith please Danny please get it done.

What is everybody's love affair with josh smith? I'll never understand. People on this blog act like he's some kind of savior, been seeing his name for 2 years now. The guy is a tweener who relies on his athleticism and has a very undisciplined shot selection...
this. i really don't understand the great need for this player. no go to move and attempts a lot of head scratching shot. we can get the same hustle or more from chris wilcox if healthy.

Defense and rebounding.  He is elite at both.  His offense comes and goes, but he is a 15PPG player.

This. Put Smith in a winning defensive culture that the Celtics have, and he will do wonders. People are forgetting his crazy blocking numbers a few years ago.

He is also uber athletic and has chemistry with Rondo (They played together in high school).
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: celticslove on November 08, 2012, 01:08:57 AM
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But I believe they are restricted in terms of trading Green

Only until Dec. 15th. 

All off-season free agents can be traded beginning on Dec. 15th, unless they have a no-trade clause, which Green doesn't.

Green, Lee, Melo and a 1st for Josh Smith please Danny please get it done.

What is everybody's love affair with josh smith? I'll never understand. People on this blog act like he's some kind of savior, been seeing his name for 2 years now. The guy is a tweener who relies on his athleticism and has a very undisciplined shot selection...
this. i really don't understand the great need for this player. no go to move and attempts a lot of head scratching shot. we can get the same hustle or more from chris wilcox if healthy.

Defense and rebounding.  He is elite at both.  His offense comes and goes, but he is a 15PPG player.
the only elite about him is his salary. do you see him playing the same level as d. howard, chandler, kevin love in terms of defense and rebounding all year round? for me that is how you define elite, he is just not that consistent to be called elite. for his age still immature as a player.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: perks-a-beast on November 08, 2012, 01:15:43 AM
Jeff Green is the ultimate let down. I Think i might actually have Pietrus at this point.

Also, words cant' describe how much i miss Avery Bradley.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: KGs Knee on November 08, 2012, 01:19:43 AM
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But I believe they are restricted in terms of trading Green

Only until Dec. 15th. 

All off-season free agents can be traded beginning on Dec. 15th, unless they have a no-trade clause, which Green doesn't.

Green, Lee, Melo and a 1st for Josh Smith please Danny please get it done.

What is everybody's love affair with josh smith? I'll never understand. People on this blog act like he's some kind of savior, been seeing his name for 2 years now. The guy is a tweener who relies on his athleticism and has a very undisciplined shot selection...
this. i really don't understand the great need for this player. no go to move and attempts a lot of head scratching shot. we can get the same hustle or more from chris wilcox if healthy.

Defense and rebounding.  He is elite at both.  His offense comes and goes, but he is a 15PPG player.
the only elite about him is his salary. do you see him playing the same level as d. howard, chandler, kevin love in terms of defense and rebounding all year round? for me that is how you define elite, he is just not that consistent to be called elite. for his age still immature as a player.

He is consistently good on d, and quite often elite.  Maybe half a notch below the top 5.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: crimson_stallion on November 08, 2012, 01:50:14 AM

the only elite about him is his salary. do you see him playing the same level as d. howard, chandler, kevin love in terms of defense and rebounding all year round? for me that is how you define elite, he is just not that consistent to be called elite. for his age still immature as a player.

1. Smith creates nowhere near as much mental drama as Howard does, and Howard's only offensive move is "dunk".  He also doesn't average 5 fouls a game (like Dwight is for L.A. right now) which means he will actually be in the game when you need him. 

2. Smith is not far off Chandler defensively - Atlanta have been a pretty solid defensive team in recent times, and if you think that's because of Joe Johnson and Teague think again.  Offensively he is so much better than Chandler that it's not even funny.  Chandler is a poor man's Dwight on offense - catch, dunk.  That's it.   

3. Kevin Love is no better offensivley than Josh Smith is  and can't play defense to save his life.

Smith is an ELITE defensive player, an exceptional rebounder and one of the best passing big men in the game.  He has elite athleticism.  He can score inside/out and has range out to the three point line.  He absolutely is not the most efficient offensive player in the NBA, but he's still a very capable scorer. 
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: crimson_stallion on November 08, 2012, 01:51:47 AM
Not a great game by Green, but I still don't get the hate. Six points and two rebounds are not a lot, but compared to Lee he was almost spectacular.

I will agree with that part...Lee has been 100% flop, and the way he's playing now I'd stuggle to justify paying him the Vet min.
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: raynman on November 08, 2012, 04:10:50 AM
Demarcus Cousins and Isaiah Thomas! A really good center and a backup TRUE pg.. Two positions that we really need to strengthen if we're going to challenge the top teams.. We can also absorb Salmon's big contract if needed..
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: fitzhickey on November 08, 2012, 05:12:15 AM
Not a great game by Green, but I still don't get the hate. Six points and two rebounds are not a lot, but compared to Lee he was almost spectacular.

I will agree with that part...Lee has been 100% flop, and the way he's playing now I'd stuggle to justify paying him the Vet min.
Yeah, I mean green played alright but lee is trade-worthy
Title: Re: Wizards (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) 11/7
Post by: celticslove on November 08, 2012, 05:39:48 AM

the only elite about him is his salary. do you see him playing the same level as d. howard, chandler, kevin love in terms of defense and rebounding all year round? for me that is how you define elite, he is just not that consistent to be called elite. for his age still immature as a player.

1. Smith creates nowhere near as much mental drama as Howard does, and Howard's only offensive move is "dunk".  He also doesn't average 5 fouls a game (like Dwight is for L.A. right now) which means he will actually be in the game when you need him. 

2. Smith is not far off Chandler defensively - Atlanta have been a pretty solid defensive team in recent times, and if you think that's because of Joe Johnson and Teague think again.  Offensively he is so much better than Chandler that it's not even funny.  Chandler is a poor man's Dwight on offense - catch, dunk.  That's it.   

3. Kevin Love is no better offensivley than Josh Smith is  and can't play defense to save his life.

Smith is an ELITE defensive player, an exceptional rebounder and one of the best passing big men in the game.  He has elite athleticism.  He can score inside/out and has range out to the three point line.  He absolutely is not the most efficient offensive player in the NBA, but he's still a very capable scorer.
still not sold that he is an elite player both on defense and offense, if given a choice i'd pick horford over him any day.