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Title: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: ianboyextreme on November 05, 2012, 08:13:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=58lwCNhVIAs
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: Change on November 05, 2012, 08:18:25 PM
This kid has STAR written all over him. Never forget 28 points outburst against Atlanta Hawks. C's nearly beat Hawks team without Big4 and Pietrus.
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: manl_lui on November 05, 2012, 08:32:13 PM
that form!
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 05, 2012, 08:33:25 PM
NBA players rarely miss wide open shots when they are practicing.  Just watch any team warm up before a game.  I use to watch Detlef Schrempf warm up before Sonic games and I don't believe I ever saw him miss a shot. 

Bradley had outrageous shooting percentages during his streak in April.  Hope he can return to that, but who knows. 
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: arambone on November 05, 2012, 08:35:40 PM
NBA players rarely miss wide open shots when they are practicing.  Just watch any team warm up before a game.  I use to watch Detlef Schrempf warm up before Sonic games and I don't believe I ever saw him miss a shot. 

Bradley had outrageous shooting percentages during his streak in April.  Hope he can return to that, but who knows.

They miss all the time in practice. Rarely do they rarely miss.
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 05, 2012, 08:46:24 PM
NBA players rarely miss wide open shots when they are practicing.  Just watch any team warm up before a game.  I use to watch Detlef Schrempf warm up before Sonic games and I don't believe I ever saw him miss a shot. 

Bradley had outrageous shooting percentages during his streak in April.  Hope he can return to that, but who knows.

They miss all the time in practice. Rarely do they rarely miss.
Not when they are taking wide open jumpers.  Maybe in scrimmage when they are being defended.   NBA players rarely miss practice shots.

Just randomly search youtube and I'm sure you'll find plenty of players of a NBA player nailing jumper after jumper in practice.  They are the best players in the world.  They aren't being defended... there is no pressure... it's not like the 3 point contest when they are under pressure and there is a time limit.  It's what they do. 

Here's a random one of Tyreke Evans, for example: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayxpu0y2VHg

Bradley is a 6'2 shooting guard.   He better be able to hit wide open shots... because he's probably not tall enough to shoot over most of his defenders. 
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: arambone on November 05, 2012, 09:10:41 PM
Show me the Perk highlights where he rarely misses. How about Dwight Howard, Shaq? How about Rondo 2 years ago.

Iguadala. John Wall.

Celtics have some great set/jump shooters like Bass and KG and Sully. Bass and KG are probably nba top 5 or top 10 jump shooters for their positions.

Most defensive stoppers are not known for their sweet shooting touch, so it's pretty sweet. If you can't shoot 60% ft in games, you're probably not making every one in practice.

I'm glad to hear the good news about Avery's recovery. You know it must have been frustrating for him. He Still hasn't ever had a full real preseason.
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: arambone on November 05, 2012, 09:12:24 PM
Austin Rivers, brick city. He was tired, but this stuff happens:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJLmudSt1o0
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: Change on November 05, 2012, 09:19:32 PM


Here's a random one of Tyreke Evans, for example: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayxpu0y2VHg

Bradley is a 6'2 shooting guard.   He better be able to hit wide open shots... because he's probably not tall enough to shoot over most of his defenders.

Well they are paid millions of dollars to play basketball. You hope in an open gym a guard like Tyreke can make some. But that one ugly looking shot. An off balance fadeaway J is low percentage shot.
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: Celtics18 on November 05, 2012, 09:21:06 PM
That form looks great.  Anybody got any recent word on when he's expected back?
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: ianboyextreme on November 05, 2012, 09:37:29 PM
NBA players rarely miss wide open shots when they are practicing.  Just watch any team warm up before a game.  I use to watch Detlef Schrempf warm up before Sonic games and I don't believe I ever saw him miss a shot. 

Bradley had outrageous shooting percentages during his streak in April.  Hope he can return to that, but who knows.
Yeah but whats really great about this footage is how pretty the flight and pace of his ball is. That release is beautiful. A long way from this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QMVAlUb9Zs
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: ianboyextreme on November 05, 2012, 09:38:08 PM
That form looks great.  Anybody got any recent word on when he's expected back?
Supposed to still be mid december.
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: AB_Celtic on November 05, 2012, 09:45:11 PM
This is Jason Terry from a few weeks ago. He hits 17 straight threes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSmN3-GpbEk&feature=player_embedded

So far this season he's 2 for 7 on threes. Open practice shots aren't really indicative of how well a player will perform in a game.
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: ianboyextreme on November 05, 2012, 09:54:11 PM
This is Jason Terry from a few weeks ago. He hits 17 straight threes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSmN3-GpbEk&feature=player_embedded

So far this season he's 2 for 7 on threes. Open practice shots aren't really indicative of how well a player will perform in a game.
I for one cant really imagine finding a thread thats not really making any claims or predictions, and then for no reason, just posting a contradictory reponse (when theres nothing to contradict). My mind just doenst work that way.
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: ianboyextreme on November 05, 2012, 09:58:36 PM
This is Jason Terry from a few weeks ago. He hits 17 straight threes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSmN3-GpbEk&feature=player_embedded

So far this season he's 2 for 7 on threes. Open practice shots aren't really indicative of how well a player will perform in a game.
I for one cant really imagine finding a thread thats not really making any claims or predictions, and then for no reason, just posting a contradictory reponse (when theres nothing to contradict). My mind just doenst work that way.
Its like if someone posted a video of a player working out and said "wow, hes really working hard", and then someone just posted a comment saying "well, it doesnt mean hes actually gonna be any stronger". Its just like, what is the point?
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: arambone on November 05, 2012, 10:03:12 PM
Yeah, he better make every single shot, he's got both his shoulders in their sockets now. Early Bradley Doubters. EBDs.
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: moiso on November 05, 2012, 10:15:39 PM
NBA players rarely miss wide open shots when they are practicing.  Just watch any team warm up before a game.  I use to watch Detlef Schrempf warm up before Sonic games and I don't believe I ever saw him miss a shot. 

Bradley had outrageous shooting percentages during his streak in April.  Hope he can return to that, but who knows.
Gotta give you a tp because that was a clip of an average nba guard warming up.  Avery might be my favorite Celtic but that footage is pretty pointless.
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: blink on November 05, 2012, 10:22:40 PM
I agree 100% with your statement.  All you did was post a video of one of the guys on our team.  Your post was just a positive remark. 

TP for you, thanks for posting the video.  Try to ignore the haters.

This is Jason Terry from a few weeks ago. He hits 17 straight threes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSmN3-GpbEk&feature=player_embedded

So far this season he's 2 for 7 on threes. Open practice shots aren't really indicative of how well a player will perform in a game.
I for one cant really imagine finding a thread thats not really making any claims or predictions, and then for no reason, just posting a contradictory reponse (when theres nothing to contradict). My mind just doenst work that way.
Its like if someone posted a video of a player working out and said "wow, hes really working hard", and then someone just posted a comment saying "well, it doesnt mean hes actually gonna be any stronger". Its just like, what is the point?
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: moiso on November 05, 2012, 10:23:28 PM
Show me the Perk highlights where he rarely misses. How about Dwight Howard, Shaq? How about Rondo 2 years ago.

Iguadala. John Wall.

Celtics have some great set/jump shooters like Bass and KG and Sully. Bass and KG are probably nba top 5 or top 10 jump shooters for their positions.

Most defensive stoppers are not known for their sweet shooting touch, so it's pretty sweet. If you can't shoot 60% ft in games, you're probably not making every one in practice.

I'm glad to hear the good news about Avery's recovery. You know it must have been frustrating for him. He Still hasn't ever had a full real preseason.
Bradley was definitely better than Shaq and Howard have ever looked from the 3point line.  Is that a positive for Bradley or just common sense?  He also looks much better than Reggie Evans and Ben Wallace ever have from 3 point land.  I do think Bradley is a good shooter, but I don't think you proved a point by saying he is better than the worst in the league.
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: nostar on November 06, 2012, 04:20:55 AM
Holy crap guys this was a feel good thread. Let's stop going gangbusters breaking it down!

If we're talking which is more impressive, shooting warm up 15ft shots or taking (and making) 3s a few months after double shoulder surgery...I'm taking Bradley.

Oh yeah and when Evans learns to play defense I'll care about his practice footage, maybe.
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: scaryjerry on November 06, 2012, 07:46:15 AM
NBA players rarely miss wide open shots when they are practicing.  Just watch any team warm up before a game.  I use to watch Detlef Schrempf warm up before Sonic games and I don't believe I ever saw him miss a shot. 

Bradley had outrageous shooting percentages during his streak in April.  Hope he can return to that, but who knows.

Detlef Schrempf was pretty darn good...however Nba players miss wide open shots plenty before games and we've all seen it. This video really doesnt impress me but I know you're one of his biggest doubters or in your mind realists... Bradley will be better, play better, and fit better with the celtics then lee,team defense will dramaticalltly improve and he will be there 4th best player as you like to call Jeff green...book it


Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 06, 2012, 08:43:51 AM
Doc and Danny always said he was a good shooter, but it took that final step of carrying the shot into a game setting to prove to himself and fans what he has.

I imagine Jamar Smith was a awesome shot in practice , but doesn't mean much if you can't get the job done under game pressure.

Ray ALlen has that cold blooded shooters thing.  Once the confidence is there , AB was outstanding.  Bradley has experienced the "TOUCH" under game pressure.  I suspect he won't have alot of problems getting his shot back . His legs are fine so he can get set and has the lift to keep his form.

He seems dedicated to returning to his former self.

Celtics are gonna need his energy and shot come the playoffs.

I hope on day soon he can once again prove why he outplayed Ray Allen.
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: crownsy on November 06, 2012, 09:31:58 AM
NBA players rarely miss wide open shots when they are practicing.  Just watch any team warm up before a game.  I use to watch Detlef Schrempf warm up before Sonic games and I don't believe I ever saw him miss a shot. 

Bradley had outrageous shooting percentages during his streak in April.  Hope he can return to that, but who knows.

They miss all the time in practice. Rarely do they rarely miss.

I watched perk warm up once in 2009 before a game, and he hit 10 15 footers in a row. How's he shoot in game action?

Rondo last year, I watched him hit 3 after 3 before the game.

NBA level players work on their form countless hours. Most of them, as lar said, can hit shots in practice over and over.

I mean take it to the other extreme, you ever see Ray warm up, or pierce? if how they shot in practice had any relation to game action, they'd both shoot high 80's on three pointers.

Now that said, cannot wait to get avery back, and watch how he shoots in game :D
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: cman88 on November 06, 2012, 12:00:18 PM
funny how a simple video of avery bradley shooting and making 3's creates so much anger on this board...not sure why alot of people on this board are so negative towards bradley

should be nice to see a video of Bradley regaining his form shooting 3's after double shoulder surgery..hopefully he can be what he was for us last year
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: MJohnnyboy on November 06, 2012, 12:18:37 PM
funny how a simple video of avery bradley shooting and making 3's creates so much anger on this board...not sure why alot of people on this board are so negative towards bradley

should be nice to see a video of Bradley regaining his form shooting 3's after double shoulder surgery..hopefully he can be what he was for us last year

They want Josh Smith, and they think Atlanta is stupid enough to take our lesser players for him.
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: nickagneta on November 06, 2012, 12:29:38 PM
Don't care how many were going in, but if a lot were, that's a good thing. What I liked seeing was a beautiful shooting form. AB's form was always very good.

I also like that he is healthy enough to be shooting threes for a long period of time without negative effects. Strengthen those shoulders young man. You're needed on the court.
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: Change on November 06, 2012, 12:50:48 PM
funny how a simple video of avery bradley shooting and making 3's creates so much anger on this board...not sure why alot of people on this board are so negative towards bradley

should be nice to see a video of Bradley regaining his form shooting 3's after double shoulder surgery..hopefully he can be what he was for us last year

They want Josh Smith, and they think Atlanta is stupid enough to take our lesser players for him.

I know. Who do they think we are the Lakers?
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 06, 2012, 12:53:45 PM
This is Jason Terry from a few weeks ago. He hits 17 straight threes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSmN3-GpbEk&feature=player_embedded

So far this season he's 2 for 7 on threes. Open practice shots aren't really indicative of how well a player will perform in a game.
Another example of a 6'2 180 pound shooting guard who better make them wide open in the gym, because his size is a handicap once he's defended during games.
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: MJohnnyboy on November 06, 2012, 01:26:34 PM
funny how a simple video of avery bradley shooting and making 3's creates so much anger on this board...not sure why alot of people on this board are so negative towards bradley

should be nice to see a video of Bradley regaining his form shooting 3's after double shoulder surgery..hopefully he can be what he was for us last year

They want Josh Smith, and they think Atlanta is stupid enough to take our lesser players for him.

I know. Who do they think we are the Lakers?

Well what I know is that the Hawks aren't the Magic or the Grizzlies. They aren't run by the mentally challenged.
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: Yogi on November 06, 2012, 01:47:46 PM
funny how a simple video of avery bradley shooting and making 3's creates so much anger on this board...not sure why alot of people on this board are so negative towards bradley

should be nice to see a video of Bradley regaining his form shooting 3's after double shoulder surgery..hopefully he can be what he was for us last year

They want Josh Smith, and they think Atlanta is stupid enough to take our lesser players for him.

I know. Who do they think we are the Lakers?

Well what I know is that the Hawks aren't the Magic or the Grizzlies. They aren't run by the mentally challenged.
Joe Johnson?  although they have a new GM.
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: cman88 on November 06, 2012, 02:12:55 PM
This is Jason Terry from a few weeks ago. He hits 17 straight threes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSmN3-GpbEk&feature=player_embedded

So far this season he's 2 for 7 on threes. Open practice shots aren't really indicative of how well a player will perform in a game.
Another example of a 6'2 180 pound shooting guard who better make them wide open in the gym, because his size is a handicap once he's defended during games.


not sure how terry's size has been a handicap considering hes a career 15ppg guy and won 6th man of the year...but whatever floats your boat I guess
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: MJohnnyboy on November 06, 2012, 02:36:56 PM
funny how a simple video of avery bradley shooting and making 3's creates so much anger on this board...not sure why alot of people on this board are so negative towards bradley

should be nice to see a video of Bradley regaining his form shooting 3's after double shoulder surgery..hopefully he can be what he was for us last year

They want Josh Smith, and they think Atlanta is stupid enough to take our lesser players for him.

I know. Who do they think we are the Lakers?

Well what I know is that the Hawks aren't the Magic or the Grizzlies. They aren't run by the mentally challenged.
Joe Johnson?  although they have a new GM.

Much different than the Magic or Grizzlies. Ferry took over after JJ's contract and has actually done a pretty good job achieving his goal of starting from scratch. As for Joe Johnson,

1.JJ's not and never was a superstar/HOF and they were paying him like one.
2.They were desperate to get rid of him for anything because he was badly under-performing for his contract.
3.They got a great deal for him if you ask me. Expiring contracts and picks for an aging 2 guard to help you start from scratch is pretty good.
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: Yogi on November 06, 2012, 03:05:56 PM
funny how a simple video of avery bradley shooting and making 3's creates so much anger on this board...not sure why alot of people on this board are so negative towards bradley

should be nice to see a video of Bradley regaining his form shooting 3's after double shoulder surgery..hopefully he can be what he was for us last year

They want Josh Smith, and they think Atlanta is stupid enough to take our lesser players for him.

I know. Who do they think we are the Lakers?

Well what I know is that the Hawks aren't the Magic or the Grizzlies. They aren't run by the mentally challenged.
Joe Johnson?  although they have a new GM.

Much different than the Magic or Grizzlies. Ferry took over after JJ's contract and has actually done a pretty good job achieving his goal of starting from scratch. As for Joe Johnson,

1.JJ's not and never was a superstar/HOF and they were paying him like one.
2.They were desperate to get rid of him for anything because he was badly under-performing for his contract.
3.They got a great deal for him if you ask me. Expiring contracts and picks for an aging 2 guard to help you start from scratch is pretty good.
I was just pointing out that they gave Joe the contract in the first place.  Basically they gave out 80 million dollars for a guy that didn't win, fill the stands, change the culture and wound up getting rid of him for nothing of value.  Compared to the Grizzlies who while getting cleaned out temporarily, are cashing in now with the better Gasol and a possible contender when fully healthy. 
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: nickagneta on November 06, 2012, 04:25:53 PM
This is Jason Terry from a few weeks ago. He hits 17 straight threes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSmN3-GpbEk&feature=player_embedded

So far this season he's 2 for 7 on threes. Open practice shots aren't really indicative of how well a player will perform in a game.
Another example of a 6'2 180 pound shooting guard who better make them wide open in the gym, because his size is a handicap once he's defended during games.
JET hasn't appeared handicapped over the years given that he has scored over 16,000 points in his career while shooting 45% from the field and 38% from three.
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 06, 2012, 05:33:16 PM
This is Jason Terry from a few weeks ago. He hits 17 straight threes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSmN3-GpbEk&feature=player_embedded

So far this season he's 2 for 7 on threes. Open practice shots aren't really indicative of how well a player will perform in a game.
Another example of a 6'2 180 pound shooting guard who better make them wide open in the gym, because his size is a handicap once he's defended during games.
JET hasn't appeared handicapped over the years given that he has scored over 16,000 points in his career while shooting 45% from the field and 38% from three.

Seriously. The guy has made more three's than all but 3 players, and his height is a problem? It's been 3 games people. Relax.
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: dtrader on November 06, 2012, 06:08:56 PM
funny how a simple video of avery bradley shooting and making 3's creates so much anger on this board...not sure why alot of people on this board are so negative towards bradley

should be nice to see a video of Bradley regaining his form shooting 3's after double shoulder surgery..hopefully he can be what he was for us last year

I dont think anyone is angry to see Bradley making shots.  I think people just had their hopes raised a little high by the title saying he was "wet", when in fact he made a number of 3s that is probably average at best for his position. 

Add to that, the fact that they were shot in a silent gym, with set up passes, and that he actually shot with poor form, and I think a little criticism should be expected. 

His form might be good for me or you, but he's jumping forwards (ie being off balance leaning towards the basket), shooting with a low release, and seems to often point his toes to the left instead of straight at the basket. 
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: AB_Celtic on November 06, 2012, 07:05:46 PM
funny how a simple video of avery bradley shooting and making 3's creates so much anger on this board...not sure why alot of people on this board are so negative towards bradley

should be nice to see a video of Bradley regaining his form shooting 3's after double shoulder surgery..hopefully he can be what he was for us last year

I dont think anyone is angry to see Bradley making shots.  I think people just had their hopes raised a little high by the title saying he was "wet", when in fact he made a number of 3s that is probably average at best for his position. 


Well put. TP.
Title: Re: Avery Bradley's jumper is wet (video)
Post by: celtics2 on November 07, 2012, 05:52:45 AM
This form of practice is ok if Bradley is just loosening up but should incorporate shots from different distances for a real warm up. Not just Tommy Gunning from 3 point range. Most NBA good shooters can hit the same shot with regularity but change the distance each time and watch what happens.