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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: KG Living Legend on November 03, 2012, 10:29:58 PM
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I really want to see him play 35 minutes a game right now at Small Forward, but he won't because... Oh yeah we have one of the best S.F. of all time.
Should have traded Perk for a starting 4 or 5. Trading your starting Center from a title winning team for a back up three is just plain dumb.
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I really want to see him play 35 minutes a game right now at Small Forward, but he won't because... Oh yeah we have one of the best S.F. of all time.
Should have traded Perk for a starting 4 or 5. Trading your starting Center from a title winning team for a back up three is just plain dumb.
We got Jeff Green by default, not by choice lol. It's not that simple.
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No one is going to get major minutes we have too much depth. Amazing to see Sullinger take so many minutes away from Bass and Green. I guess thats what happens when you can box out and get a few rebounds.
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No one is going to get major minutes we have too much depth. Amazing to see Sullinger take so many minutes away from Bass and Green. I guess thats what happens when you can box out and get a few rebounds.
It's not that we have too much depth it's just that our players 5-15 are too mediocre for anyone to stand out. Jeff's our 4th best player, but his position is firmly taken by Pierce.
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No one is going to get major minutes we have too much depth. Amazing to see Sullinger take so many minutes away from Bass and Green. I guess thats what happens when you can box out and get a few rebounds.
Pretty much as expected from some of us. Sullinger was the draft pick with the highest floor in the draft, and as ready to contribute as anybody else. Most people wouldn't listen, because he fell to 21. Already getting starts. Not at all surprising.
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I would like to see Doc try to -- reduce Courtney Lee's minutes (around 30 per game last two) in order to get Jeff Green more minutes on the wing.
Play Green (SF) alongside Paul Pierce (SG) + Jeff Green (SF). Get each one of them more mid-post and low-post action. Need floor spacing from the bigs.
Also, it could be a good go-to option for the Celtics while Rondo rests with Terry at PG given the decrease in playmaking at that PG position then. Take some pressure off of Terry as the lead guard. Run the offense through Pierce and Green in the post.
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I really want to see him play 35 minutes a game right now at Small Forward, but he won't because... Oh yeah we have one of the best S.F. of all time.
Should have traded Perk for a starting 4 or 5. Trading your starting Center from a title winning team for a back up three is just plain dumb.
For the millionth time (and I'm going to keep saying this until people get it into their heads) Kendrick Perkins never, ever, had any intention at any point in time to resign with Boston.
Perkins wanted more money than we were able to offer him - the only way he was going to get that money would be to go elsewhere. If we didnt make the trade, we basically would have rented him for about 20 games and then he would have walked.
We would have gotten nothing in return.
Perkins was a zero factor in that trade - you can pretty much pretend he was never a part of it, because be practically wasn't. We basically traded Nate Robinson for Nenad Kristic, Jeff Green and Fab Melo. If you get a chance to do that trade will you say no? Exactly.
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Does that mean that we could not have traded for someone other than green?
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I really want to see him play 35 minutes a game right now at Small Forward, but he won't because... Oh yeah we have one of the best S.F. of all time.
Should have traded Perk for a starting 4 or 5. Trading your starting Center from a title winning team for a back up three is just plain dumb.
We got Jeff Green by default, not by choice lol. It's not that simple.
The funny thing is, DA asked for harden in the trade. Can you imagine?
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You name me somebody we could have gotten that would have been a better return than Green and Kristic, assuming Green didn't miss the entire following season (as Danny had no way of predicting that)?
Not also that our center rotation at the time was Shaq, Perk, Jermaine and Semih Erden.
- Shaq was frequency hurt / out
- Jermaine was frequently hurt / out
- Erden was raw and hurt
- Perkins just came back from a major injury
We needed a healthy centre who would at least play, and we got a starting calibre center (in Kristic) along with Green.
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No one is going to get major minutes we have too much depth. Amazing to see Sullinger take so many minutes away from Bass and Green. I guess thats what happens when you can box out and get a few rebounds.
It's not that we have too much depth it's just that our players 5-15 are too mediocre for anyone to stand out. Jeff's our 4th best player, but his position is firmly taken by Pierce.
If he is fourth best we are in some serious trouble.
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Jeff will get his time. Right now they're easing him in.
He will relax after 5-10 games and it will become more natural. There are spurts of a fringe All Star from the kid and there are also spurts of a frustrating lack of aggression.
He's got too much value invested to not give him the minutes eventually.
Do you think Danny is going to sign a guy for $9 million and not play him 30 minutes a night? Never.
You can pick one of the following two reasons for this...
1) Because you believe he is going to be a beast. (personally I think this is the case)
2)Because you won't be able to get the trade value back if you don't play him 30 minutes and stuff as many stats onto his sheet as possible for other GM's to admire when it comes time to get that All Star in a trade.
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Once Doc figured out the right rotation and sets, I think he will get big minutes. Maybe 25-20 mins a game playing behind Pierce at the 3 spot.
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Green is gonna have to learn to shoot and when his shot is off drive to the bucket for freethrows.
He is too timid IMO , he needs to react instantly .
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Mark my words, I think he will start at the four sometimes before it is over, with Dr. Frankendoc coaching. Doc loves small ball and I just see him tinkering to see what he has before the season is over.
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I would like to see Doc try to -- reduce Courtney Lee's minutes (around 30 per game last two) in order to get Jeff Green more minutes on the wing.
Play Green (SF) alongside Paul Pierce (SG) + Jeff Green (SF). Get each one of them more mid-post and low-post action. Need floor spacing from the bigs.
Also, it could be a good go-to option for the Celtics while Rondo rests with Terry at PG given the decrease in playmaking at that PG position then. Take some pressure off of Terry as the lead guard. Run the offense through Pierce and Green in the post.
I actually want this to be the starting lineup with Sully, kg, and Rondo. If they are going to do some modified 555 plan for Pierce as threatened, then sub in Lee for Pierce early and then bring Pierce back to give Jeff a rest with a minute or two left in the first.
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I was encouraged by Jeff Green's play in the game last night. He was more assertive than he was in the first two games. I think his defense will be just fine but I am concerned that he not fall in love with the jump shot. I want 50-50 jumpers and driving/post play.
He could also step up his rebounding for the second unit when he is playing as a 'big'.
I think overall he will earn 25+ mpg this season.
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I would like to see Doc try to -- reduce Courtney Lee's minutes (around 30 per game last two) in order to get Jeff Green more minutes on the wing.
Play Green (SF) alongside Paul Pierce (SG) + Jeff Green (SF). Get each one of them more mid-post and low-post action. Need floor spacing from the bigs.
Also, it could be a good go-to option for the Celtics while Rondo rests with Terry at PG given the decrease in playmaking at that PG position then. Take some pressure off of Terry as the lead guard. Run the offense through Pierce and Green in the post.
I would love to see this. My one hesitation- is Pierce quick enough to stay in front of 2s on D? Depending on the matchup, I'm not sure that he can. And, since our D has been miserable, I think Doc needs to focus on figuring that out ASAP. The offense will come along (we have too many gifted players for it not to), but building an elite defense takes a lot of work. IMO, Doc should focus solely on the defensive side of the ball (I don't mean literally ignore the offense entirely, but the vast majority of his adjustments should be made with the D in mind) until we start playing some real Celtics defense.
The Celtics are only a contender if their defense is ELITE. If their defense is merely 'good' or even 'great' I don't think they're scaring anybody.
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No one is going to get major minutes we have too much depth. Amazing to see Sullinger take so many minutes away from Bass and Green. I guess thats what happens when you can box out and get a few rebounds.
It's not that we have too much depth it's just that our players 5-15 are too mediocre for anyone to stand out. Jeff's our 4th best player, but his position is firmly taken by Pierce.
Yes, I second the mediocre position. Someone(s) will have to break away with talent to make an impact this season. Our so called bench got killed last by Washington's bench. This will kill our starters.
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No one is going to get major minutes we have too much depth. Amazing to see Sullinger take so many minutes away from Bass and Green. I guess thats what happens when you can box out and get a few rebounds.
It's not that we have too much depth it's just that our players 5-15 are too mediocre for anyone to stand out. Jeff's our 4th best player, but his position is firmly taken by Pierce.
Yes, I second the mediocre position. Someone(s) will have to break away with talent to make an impact this season. Our so called bench got killed last by Washington's bench. This will kill our starters.
Our 5-15 guys are considerably above average. They are certainly not mediocre. If you want to say that we need a 4th all-star caliber player that's fine (I happen to disagree, but it's certainly a valid point), but 5-15 we are better than almost any other team in the league.
Playing horribly against a horrible team is classic Celtics. Just because Kevin Seraphin outplayed Kevin Garnett doesn't mean he is better than KG. Our bench IS the best in the league, even if it's playing poorly.
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Our bench IS the best in the league, even if it's playing poorly.
The Celtics bench is good on paper, but so far has been sub par. They should come around. However, I think the Clips actually have a better and deeper bench, especially if they stay with Willie Green starting:
Jamaal Crawford
Lamar Odom
Eric Bledsoe
Matt Barnes
Chauncey Billups
Grant Hill
Rony Turiaf
Ryan Hollins
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I echo the sentiment that he needs to see more time alongside Pierce on the wing.
Either that or we need to trade one of Bass/Sully for a defensive 5 that Doc can trust and get Jeff some more time at the 4.
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I echo the sentiment that he needs to see more time alongside Pierce on the wing.
Either that or we need to trade one of Bass/Sully for a defensive 5 that Doc can trust and get Jeff some more time at the 4.
Gotta give a TP for agreeing with both of these points. My favorite line up in the Wizards game was Rondo, Pierce, Green, Sully/Bass, KG. This gives us our best lineup on the floor in my eyes, at least offensively, and also gives Green more minutes which he is struggling to find. 15 to 16 minutes a game arent going to be enough for Green to make a difference. Especially when hes playing well. He was having a good 4th quarter and Doc, as usual with players playing well, benched him.
Also, Sully and Bass seem to be both equally effective in different ways. With Sully younger, and better at rebounding it wouldnt hurt loosing another extra outside shooter in bass we have waaaay too much shooting as is. If we could package Bass and Bradley with picks for a Gortat I would be more than excited.
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I think there are likely ways to get Green more minutes. But without even getting into that, Green was acquired because of Miami. Danny knows that the road goes through Miami and for us to win, we need someone who can matchup with their flex linueps. Green can really help in that department.
So even if he only averages 20 mpg in the regular season, if he can put up 35 mpg against Miami and help us knock them off, he's worth it.
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good he's bad
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I really want to see him play 35 minutes a game right now at Small Forward, but he won't because... Oh yeah we have one of the best S.F. of all time.
Should have traded Perk for a starting 4 or 5. Trading your starting Center from a title winning team for a back up three is just plain dumb.
We got Jeff Green by default, not by choice lol. It's not that simple.
you should stop posting things
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For the millionth time (and I'm going to keep saying this until people get it into their heads) Kendrick Perkins never, ever, had any intention at any point in time to resign with Boston.
Perkins wanted more money than we were able to offer him - the only way he was going to get that money would be to go elsewhere. If we didnt make the trade, we basically would have rented him for about 20 games and then he would have walked.
We would have gotten nothing in return.
Perkins was a zero factor in that trade - you can pretty much pretend he was never a part of it, because be practically wasn't. We basically traded Nate Robinson for Nenad Kristic, Jeff Green and Fab Melo. If you get a chance to do that trade will you say no? Exactly.
This is an excellent point. TP 4 u.
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I really want to see him play 35 minutes a game right now at Small Forward, but he won't because... Oh yeah we have one of the best S.F. of all time.
Should have traded Perk for a starting 4 or 5. Trading your starting Center from a title winning team for a back up three is just plain dumb.
We got Jeff Green by default, not by choice lol. It's not that simple.
The funny thing is, DA asked for harden in the trade. Can you imagine?
I have imagined, all too much. We'd be 2-3x champs in the Big 3 era.
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For the millionth time (and I'm going to keep saying this until people get it into their heads) Kendrick Perkins never, ever, had any intention at any point in time to resign with Boston.
Perkins wanted more money than we were able to offer him - the only way he was going to get that money would be to go elsewhere. If we didnt make the trade, we basically would have rented him for about 20 games and then he would have walked.
We would have gotten nothing in return.
Perkins was a zero factor in that trade - you can pretty much pretend he was never a part of it, because be practically wasn't. We basically traded Nate Robinson for Nenad Kristic, Jeff Green and Fab Melo. If you get a chance to do that trade will you say no? Exactly.
This is an excellent point. TP 4 u.
While I agree completely with the point, trading Perk completely deflated any chance we had at winning the championship that year. Would I rather have a second ring then Jeff Green? Yes.
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No one is going to get major minutes we have too much depth. Amazing to see Sullinger take so many minutes away from Bass and Green. I guess thats what happens when you can box out and get a few rebounds.
It's not that we have too much depth it's just that our players 5-15 are too mediocre for anyone to stand out. Jeff's our 4th best player, but his position is firmly taken by Pierce.
Not sure how take this comment. Maybe you think that most #5-#10 players on most teams are more or less mediocre. Viewed through that lens, you are complimenting the C's for having mediocrity through #15. But if your point is that the C's talent level is not very good after #4, I would disagree. Bradley, Terry, Lee, Sully and Bass are all better than average NBA players, IMO.
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Well, one thing is for sure.
The Cs won't get past Miami unless JGreen is getting major minutes against Miami's small lineup. Bass? we tried and failed last season. Sully? he is too slow to play the four vs Miami.
...we could go big vs Miami playing PP at the two but that conversation is for another day.
JGreen is here for two reasons. 1)give PP some rest 2)play LeBron, Melo and all the big threes out there (i.e. Durant)
If JGreen isn't beating Sully or Bass for a starting job - especially against teams that play small - then we are in trouble. So either way, the season rests on figuring out how JGreen fits - if at all.
I think he is a starter. He is not an energy guy like say...JTerry.
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No one is going to get major minutes we have too much depth. Amazing to see Sullinger take so many minutes away from Bass and Green. I guess thats what happens when you can box out and get a few rebounds.
It's not that we have too much depth it's just that our players 5-15 are too mediocre for anyone to stand out. Jeff's our 4th best player, but his position is firmly taken by Pierce.
Not sure how take this comment. Maybe you think that most #5-#10 players on most teams are more or less mediocre. Viewed through that lens, you are complimenting the C's for having mediocrity through #15. But if your point is that the C's talent level is not very good after #4, I would disagree. Bradley, Terry, Lee, Sully and Bass are all better than average NBA players, IMO.
Nah... I think it's just that there's not standout supersub yet (unless you count Barbosa, which the franchise really doesn't want to do yet) and nobody that's heads-above the other guys. They all do something especially well, but it's not showing right now in the mix, so they all look about the same.
It seems that Doc is following a recent pattern of trying something out early in the season and sticking with it for a while to see if it comes together. Last year it was Bradley, and that worked out...maybe too well.
With Bradley out, the other guys can show what they've got - and what they don't have. Then Doc will start making decisions. Consider the first 10 games an extended preseason.
But from what I've seen so far, I have to agree that there are no standouts among JET, Lee, Green, and even Sully.
If Doc decides to go defense, it'll show up. Right now, lineups that feature both JET, Sully, and Bass at the 5 aren't going to be strong defensively.
I think if Bradley is out there, the defense improves. An at-least semi-legit center on the floor to protect the rim (KG, Darko, Wilcox even) plus Bradley on the permimeter, and the defense gets much easier for the other guys. Assuming one is either Pierce or Green, they'll follow the lead of Bradley on the perimeter. If Bass is at PF, we're good there as he proved last season, but I wouldn't mind seeing KG/Darko and I like KG/Wilcox.
Bottom line: I don't think Doc has really put a defensive lineup out there that often, and surely isn't using defense as a criteria to earn playing time, even for the rook. Things will change in a major way when he does.
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No one is going to get major minutes we have too much depth. Amazing to see Sullinger take so many minutes away from Bass and Green. I guess thats what happens when you can box out and get a few rebounds.
It's not that we have too much depth it's just that our players 5-15 are too mediocre for anyone to stand out. Jeff's our 4th best player, but his position is firmly taken by Pierce.
I would like to have what you're smoking, my friend. If Jeff Green is our 4th best player, then it's time to hit the panic button for real because we are in huge trouble
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Does anybody knows what is going on with Darko? The guy's presence in the paint alone gives us an advantage. Not to mention is a great passer
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But from what I've seen so far, I have to agree that there are no standouts among JET, Lee, Green, and even Sully.
So you werent impressed yesterday when Green produced 11 pts, 2 rebs and a steal in just 16 minutes?
He had the team high for FG% along with Rondo, and both shot 5/10 even though RR played 24 more minutes than him.
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But from what I've seen so far, I have to agree that there are no standouts among JET, Lee, Green, and even Sully.
So you werent impressed yesterday when Green produced 11 pts, 2 rebs and a steal in just 16 minutes?
He had the team high for FG% along with Rondo, and both shot 5/10 even though RR played 24 more minutes than him.
It's just that I could see JET having a night like that next time, or Lee, or Barbosa, with no consistent standout. I think the player that puts the offense and defense together on the perimeter is going to eventually win out. That will be Green behind Pierce, and possibly as a 4 as well instead of Sully. He could get 24-30 minutes that way easily, but Sully would be on the bench for that to happen.
At the Guard spot, I think Bradley will win a spot easily. I think Lee has a better chance of getting it on both ends than JET, so that leaves JET as 4th guard/veteran backup PG for 15 min/game.
The rotations will have to shorten. I think someone's going to be nearly on the outs, JET at PG behind Rondo and Sully at PF behind everyone that can defend. I think it starts to come together then.
The varying rotations involve more minutes for Green at the 4 in a small-ball lineup, or more for Wilcox in a big lineup, with spot minutes for Darko when going big. Then we'll be able to defend, and the offense will flow better as the chemistry becomes more stable.
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Barbosa, Terry, green, lee are all above-average players and all could be 6th men or starters for most teams in the NBA averaging double digits last year
I think the problem is more distribution of shots..it almost looks like these guys right now are almost scared to take the shot and look for their offense.
but we aer going to need guys like Terry to play like he did in Dallas, looking for his shot
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For the millionth time (and I'm going to keep saying this until people get it into their heads) Kendrick Perkins never, ever, had any intention at any point in time to resign with Boston.
Perkins wanted more money than we were able to offer him - the only way he was going to get that money would be to go elsewhere. If we didnt make the trade, we basically would have rented him for about 20 games and then he would have walked.
We would have gotten nothing in return.
Perkins was a zero factor in that trade - you can pretty much pretend he was never a part of it, because be practically wasn't. We basically traded Nate Robinson for Nenad Kristic, Jeff Green and Fab Melo. If you get a chance to do that trade will you say no? Exactly.
This is an excellent point. TP 4 u.
While I agree completely with the point, trading Perk completely deflated any chance we had at winning the championship that year. Would I rather have a second ring then Jeff Green? Yes.
Agreed and disagree Perkins had "no intention of signing with Boston"....I find that absurd...the fact is he wanted to be here and the celtics had no intention of giving him what he wanted so ultimately the trade was done but I don't think for a second Perkins wanted to be on a team other than the celtics
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Barbosa, Terry, green, lee are all above-average players and all could be 6th men or starters for most teams in the NBA averaging double digits last year
I think the problem is more distribution of shots..it almost looks like these guys right now are almost scared to take the shot and look for their offense.
but we aer going to need guys like Terry to play like he did in Dallas, looking for his shot
I agree with the first part on the distribution of shots. I think any of Green, Lee, JET, Barbosa, and possibly even Sully could get 10-12 ppg in 18 minutes on just about any team, and they've got to figure all of that out. They each score differently, too, which complicates things.
But I think if that's true, then defense needs to be the difference maker. Perhaps the scoreboard dictates the hot hand at times despite defense, but you go with the defenders in the end.
In that case, we don't need the JET from Dallas at all, but could use him in the nice little 12-15 minute Rondo backup/scoring punch change-up guy for the 2nd unit. We surely don't need JET at SG.
That makes it much simpler: Lee and Barbosa at SG.
The starters make sense: Rondo/Lee/Pierce/Bass/KG, and that lineup was pretty effective at the end of last year.
But the bench: JET/Barbosa/Green/Sully/Wilcox. Looks like an offense that might not gel, and a defense without a defensive leader and two major holes in JET and Sully.
So if Sully sits, it looks a lot better defensively.
We'll see who loses minutes when Bradley comes back 100%. I think it's JET and Barbosa, but only if Lee fits. If he doesn't, he'll be on the block in February and Bradley will have a shot at being the starting SG of the future again.
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While I agree completely with the point, trading Perk completely deflated any chance we had at winning the championship that year. Would I rather have a second ring then Jeff Green? Yes.
I don't accept your premise.
Let's assume that having Perkins made us better than the Heat during the 2010-11 season and we beat them in the Quarter Finals (we lost 4-1). That is a huge assumption by the way. Then you have to go further and say that Perkins made us better than the Bulls, which isn't as much of a stretch in my opinion but they were very good that year. That would have been a very good series, probably 50/50.
After we've made those assumptions we have to make one (in my opinion) indefensible assumption. Perkins would also have has to make us better than the Dallas Mavericks. The Mavs were a force that season and I just think it was their year honestly. So I'm saying maybe the idea is that we traded a good center who we couldn't afford for a good prospect in Jeff Green and a temporary center in Kristic.
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While I agree completely with the point, trading Perk completely deflated any chance we had at winning the championship that year. Would I rather have a second ring then Jeff Green? Yes.
I don't accept your premise.
Let's assume that having Perkins made us better than the Heat during the 2010-11 season and we beat them in the Quarter Finals (we lost 4-1). That is a huge assumption by the way. Then you have to go further and say that Perkins made us better than the Bulls, which isn't as much of a stretch in my opinion but they were very good that year. That would have been a very good series, probably 50/50.
After we've made those assumptions we have to make one (in my opinion) indefensible assumption. Perkins would also have has to make us better than the Dallas Mavericks. The Mavs were a force that season and I just think it was their year honestly. So I'm saying maybe the idea is that we traded a good center who we couldn't afford for a good prospect in Jeff Green and a temporary center in Kristic.
If we could've beaten the Heat, I'd say we had better than even odds of beating everyone else.
But to beat the heat we would've needed a healthy Shaq, a healthy Rondo, two things completely unrelated to Perkins.
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we got the best team in the league
almost half is brand new
give it time fam
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Through the first three games, Jeff Green is averaging only 22 minutes. I thought he would get close to 30.
Pierce is playing too much. My guess is that he will come down and Green will go up as the season goes along. Our team hasn't come together yet so Doc is relying heavily on Pierce and Rondo.
Rondo is averaging over 40 minutes right now. That absolutely has to come down.
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we got the best team in the league
almost half is brand new
give it time fam
This is it. The guys just need more time together. Lots of new faces that are learning their places. We do have huge amount of talent. This will get better if they follow KG and PP. Rondo leading the way.
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This is Doc being Doc. Over relying on the starters AND too many bench guys.
Doc should pick a rotation of 8 guys and go with it. Personally I think he should go with something like:
KG / Darko
Bass / Green
Pierce / Green
Bradley / Jet
Rondo / Jet
There's still enough minutes for an extra guy in there, use Wilcox and Barbosa when you need an extra big or wing/guard (tactical reasons). I know people will give me grief about Sullinger - but I'd prefer to see how the vets are doing, before deciding on him over them. I'd like to see how Darko does - good reports on his training camp, and I think we need a center on the floor.
Plus from a trade stand point this gets Green, Bradley, Jet and Bass show time. I think any trade that consolidates two of our B guys into an A guy involves two of them.
As for Green - his most important role is backup small forward - keep Pierce's minutes down and help against teams that play two small forwards a lot. If nothing changes, I'd guess he averages around 22 mpg, with some games bursting up to 30, but only if he plays well. Would he do better as a starter? Perhaps, but I don't think starting him and Pierce helps. It creates a hole in the rotation and over packs our deepest position - PF.
In the offseason, I was hoping we'd retain Ray and use our MLE on the best backup C we could get - be that Camby, Steisma, or someone else. I felt this lineup would have been very good:
Rondo, Allen, Green, Bass, KG - starting team that could run and space. AB as change of pace, Pierce for his play making and all around game, and the best center money could buy to hold the fort behind KG would have been a very strong 8 man.
Even if we lost Allen - I think plugging Lee into his spot and going with the same rotation would have made sense. JET, I think, is a luxury purchase (in fairness DA couldn't have known that he'd get Lee & get Barbosa to hold the fort while AB was out). The team is now more talented 1 - 15 than it has been in the KG era, but I think the fit and rotation is out of wack. I'm not super optimistic on AB's recovery this year (having had shoulder surgery, plus reading into DA's pickup of guards, plus wondering how he works back in), but when he can play it only will make the problems worse.
On the other hand - they can work through these issues. I'd rather have the talent and need to consolidate the rotation, then not have the talent and need to stretch the rotation.
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I am not surprised about the minutes.
He is the backup SF. I imagine he is among the league leaders in minutes for a backup SF.
He gets spot minutes at PF because there are already two other PFs getting minutes.
The only way to get him more minutes is to move Pierce over to SG more often and have Terry play more PG minutes. (I wouldn't mind seeing Rondo playing less then 40 minutes a game) Of course the issue is one Bradley is back, he has to get minutes to see if he can build off what he did last year.
So, Green is going to be a 20 minutes a game player. Not because of his talent, but because he is on a team that only needs that amount of time from him.