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Title: Rudy Gobert
Post by: CFAN38 on November 02, 2012, 02:42:48 PM
Its not going to happen because when its all said and done this kid goes top 3 but he would be amazing as the Cs center of the future.

7'1 with a 7'9 wingspan and PF mobility. Reading about him and watching his games on youtube he looks to be a long version of tyson chandler. If sully is our PF of the future this kid fits perfect next to him. Not to mention he is an easy lob target for Rondo.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: Who on November 02, 2012, 03:14:00 PM
7'1 with a 7'9 wingspan and PF mobility.
Jesus, wow, that is a long wingspan. I don't think I have ever seen a seven footer (7-1 too) with a wingspan 8 inches longer than his height before. Wow.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: aporel#18 on November 02, 2012, 04:03:27 PM
it's still to be seen how this kid is going to evolve... but this summer I watched him abusing spanish junior national team... He's really fast and fluid for such a big kid. Spanish kids are good, we have a lot of talented prospects, but they had no answer for him.

Hopefully he can develop into a starter-type big man, maybe better. He's been compared to Ajinca, but IMO he's a more talented prospect.

It'll be hard to get him, but I'm rooting for him to go to the NBA and make a name for himself.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: bfrombleacher on November 03, 2012, 08:35:55 AM
(http://content.draftexpress.com/gallery/RudyGobert/1339445228.jpg)

Whaaa
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: arambone on November 04, 2012, 01:19:28 AM
(http://www.tabdeportes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/1d5.jpg)
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: CelticsFan9 on November 04, 2012, 01:40:00 AM
(http://www.tabdeportes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/1d5.jpg)

I dare someone to look at this picture with a straight face for five seconds.  I can't.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: fitzhickey on November 04, 2012, 02:18:02 AM
7'1 with a 7'9 wingspan and PF mobility.
Jesus, wow, that is a long wingspan. I don't think I have ever seen a seven footer (7-1 too) with a wingspan 8 inches longer than his height before. Wow.
It's like a taller bismack
I saw a pic of him holding onto the back board while standing, and I think (happy to be corrected) his standing reach is 9-6
Just wow
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: CFAN38 on December 12, 2012, 12:34:16 PM
Gobert has come out saying he plans on playing in the NBA next year.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on December 12, 2012, 01:49:38 PM
I've seen some videos of him. I gotta say, his size and wingspan, combined with his mobility alone makes him at least a top 15 pick already. So, the only way to pick him up is moving up the draft or be, and I don't want this, a bad team.

This is just me though, I'm not seeing hops on this kid.

(http://www.tabdeportes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/1d5.jpg)

I dare someone to look at this picture with a straight face for five seconds.  I can't.

Can't either.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: PhoSita on December 21, 2012, 07:33:32 PM
It's always so hard to tell with these super skinny guys.

Some of them come to the NBA and look great immediately -- Anthony Davis and John Henson being a couple of recent examples.

Some others have a lot of potential but just can't seem to stick, whether it's work ethic or just not having an NBA body -- Anthony Randolph, Chris Johnson, Jarvis Varnado, and probably JaJaun Johnson.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: Smartacus on February 12, 2013, 06:40:33 PM
Anyone have an update on Gobert? I hear he hasn't exactly been lighting the world on fire recently.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: CFAN38 on March 13, 2013, 03:59:52 PM
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Anyone have an update on Gobert? I hear he hasn't exactly been lighting the world on fire recently.

might not be lighting the world on fire but he did recently play well 14pts 14rb in 27min against Mam Jaiteh (another nba prospect.



http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Rudy-Gobert-5878/
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: CFAN38 on April 15, 2013, 04:37:12 PM
Im not as high on him as I was last year but I did find an interesting statistical comparison.

Gobert @ 20 playing for Cholet

Euro cup       3 games 10min 5pts 85% FG 2RB 1blk 1.7PF
French league 23 gaems 22min 8pts 75% FG 5RB 1.8blk 2 PF
french per 40                15pts       9RB  3.2blk


Kevin Seraphin @ 20 playing for Cholet

Euro cup       6 games 20min 6.5pts 51% FG 6.5RB 1blk 2.8PF
French league 29 games 15min 6 pts  52% FG 4 RB  1blk 2 PF
french per 40                16pts         10rb  2.2blk


Seraphin is currently 23 and averaging 9pts 4rb 1blk a game for the wizards. While not the freak Gobert is Seraphin is also a long player at 6' with 7'3 wingspan and 9'1" standing reach.

At the very least the above comparison shows how a solid rotation nba big (seraphin) performed at the same age against the same level of talent as Gobert.


Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: mr. dee on April 25, 2013, 10:16:58 PM
NBAdraft.net have the C's grabbing him on 16th pick.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: triboy16f on April 25, 2013, 11:28:10 PM
No thanks.

Just too stiff. Ok quickness and athleticism only.  Plus doesn't have great strength. Feel for game and skills only avg.

Not saying he wouldn't be an ok pick, but only if you have time to burn. Will be a project and we already have one in melo.

We need a ready to make an impact next year pick or else someone who if we wait for a year , will be likely very good in the nba. Like Giannis or Saric.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: CFAN38 on April 26, 2013, 04:01:56 PM
No thanks.

Just too stiff. Ok quickness and athleticism only.  Plus doesn't have great strength. Feel for game and skills only avg.

Not saying he wouldn't be an ok pick, but only if you have time to burn. Will be a project and we already have one in melo.

We need a ready to make an impact next year pick or else someone who if we wait for a year , will be likely very good in the nba. Like Giannis or Saric.

I don't disagree but Giannis is going to take as long or longer than Gobert to develop into a NBA player.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: CFAN38 on February 01, 2014, 02:37:33 PM
Watched Utah vs warriors last night it was my first time seeing go set play. He was a steal at #27. He should develop into an elite rim defender, moves so well for his size. I am very high on the KO pick but gobert and Gianni's both are showing potential along with home run potential.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: CFAN38 on September 11, 2014, 07:26:21 AM
If anyone else watched France vs Spain last night Gobert is the real deal. He anchored the defense in a very impressive victory. His ability to protect the rim and rebound against the Gasol brothers and Ibaka was very impressive. He is know doubt a starting NBA center in the near future.


The Jazz have a very interesting situation they have reportedly decided Favors is better at the 5, they have Kanter, and now Gobert looks to be emerging as a player who will need minutes. Nice problem to have.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: gift on September 11, 2014, 09:11:51 AM
If anyone else watched France vs Spain last night Gobert is the real deal. He anchored the defense in a very impressive victory. His ability to protect the rim and rebound against the Gasol brothers and Ibaka was very impressive. He is know doubt a starting NBA center in the near future.


The Jazz have a very interesting situation they have reportedly decided Favors is better at the 5, they have Kanter, and now Gobert looks to be emerging as a player who will need minutes. Nice problem to have.

Absolutely, I haven't seen a lot of him before but I've heard good things about his performance in the tournament and watched France vs Spain and he looked really good. Not just a tall stiff like I thought he might be when he was drafted. I liked that Diot(??) guy, too. Great performance by France overall.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: D.o.s. on September 11, 2014, 09:18:52 AM
If anyone else watched France vs Spain last night Gobert is the real deal. He anchored the defense in a very impressive victory. His ability to protect the rim and rebound against the Gasol brothers and Ibaka was very impressive. He is know doubt a starting NBA center in the near future.


The Jazz have a very interesting situation they have reportedly decided Favors is better at the 5, they have Kanter, and now Gobert looks to be emerging as a player who will need minutes. Nice problem to have.

That's the only game I've seen him in, and it was a good game for him.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: fitzhickey on September 11, 2014, 09:23:56 AM
If anyone else watched France vs Spain last night Gobert is the real deal. He anchored the defense in a very impressive victory. His ability to protect the rim and rebound against the Gasol brothers and Ibaka was very impressive. He is know doubt a starting NBA center in the near future.


The Jazz have a very interesting situation they have reportedly decided Favors is better at the 5, they have Kanter, and now Gobert looks to be emerging as a player who will need minutes. Nice problem to have.

Absolutely, I haven't seen a lot of him before but I've heard good things about his performance in the tournament and watched France vs Spain and he looked really good. Not just a tall stiff like I thought he might be when he was drafted. I liked that Diot(??) guy, too. Great performance by France overall.
I wish Diot's first name started with "I".

I.Diot  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: jambr380 on September 11, 2014, 09:36:25 AM
It's a little unfair that the Jazz have so many young big men with potential. I am not sure what we have that they would want as they are loaded with quality young players at every position except SF (Novak is probably their starter ??). Would they be interested in Green for Gobert (or Kanter) + salary filler (obviously Favors would be amazing, but I am pretty sure he is untouchable)? It looks as though they are getting ready to compete. They signed Hayward to that huge contract and even gave Trevor Booker 5 mill/yr to play PF.

If Danny hasn't tried to work a deal with Utah, then he should really give it a shot.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: Eddie20 on September 11, 2014, 09:45:56 AM
It's a little unfair that the Jazz have so many young big men with potential. I am not sure what we have that they would want as they are loaded with quality young players at every position except SF (Novak is probably their starter ??).

They have Hayward, Burks, and Evans at the wings and drafted Hood and Exum. I doubt Novak plays much at all.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: Endless Paradise on September 11, 2014, 09:48:51 AM
The Jazz's small forward is Hayward; he's more effective at that position than at shooting guard.  He was just forced to play out of position last year because Corbin decided that Richard Jefferson was worth starting in the year 2014.

That said, they're NOWHERE near ready to compete yet.  They only signed Hayward to such a huge contract because they matched the Bobcats' offer.  They will assuredly be a lottery ream yet again.

Kanter is probably more obtainable than Gobert for the simple fact that Kanter will have to be paid sooner: this is the last year of his rookie contract, whereas Gobert is going into his second year.  They've already invested big money in Favors and Hayward; I'm not sure if they're sold on Kanter, since he and Favors are both probably better at playing center than power forward.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: bucknersrevenge on September 11, 2014, 10:06:12 AM
If anyone else watched France vs Spain last night Gobert is the real deal. He anchored the defense in a very impressive victory. His ability to protect the rim and rebound against the Gasol brothers and Ibaka was very impressive. He is know doubt a starting NBA center in the near future.


The Jazz have a very interesting situation they have reportedly decided Favors is better at the 5, they have Kanter, and now Gobert looks to be emerging as a player who will need minutes. Nice problem to have.

Yeah I'd take Gobert or Kanter off their hands anytime. Not sure what they'd take back though. They're a little light on PFs. Maybe send them KO perhaps and something else. I don't know.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: jambr380 on September 11, 2014, 10:13:46 AM
The Jazz's small forward is Hayward; he's more effective at that position than at shooting guard.  He was just forced to play out of position last year because Corbin decided that Richard Jefferson was worth starting in the year 2014.

That said, they're NOWHERE near ready to compete yet.  They only signed Hayward to such a huge contract because they matched the Bobcats' offer.  They will assuredly be a lottery ream yet again.

Kanter is probably more obtainable than Gobert for the simple fact that Kanter will have to be paid sooner; this is the last year of his rookie contract, whereas Gobert is going into his second year.  They've already invested big money in Favors and Hayward; I'm not sure if they're sold on Kanter, since he and Favors are both probably better at playing center than power forward.

To be fair, I said they were getting ready to compete. I don't see them as a playoff team this year and maybe not next, but they have a lot of young talent and if some of them materialize, they should be in really good shape.

I agree that Hayward should start at sf and Burks had somewhat of a break-out year last year. I know they drafted Hood (as I thought he might be a good fit on the Cs), but he is too young to really contribute right now. Again, they seem loaded at just about every position - which is pretty awesome for them moving forward.

As for Kanter, is he somebody we would really want entering his final year before [possibly] getting paid? Is his upside really still there?
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: Celtics4ever on September 11, 2014, 10:17:07 AM
He had a good game when it mattered but here are this stats for the league

http://www.fiba.com/basketballworldcup/2014/Rudy-GOBERT

http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.html?PlayerID=203497


One good game doth not a player make, just ask Exum.

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t Gobert is the real deal.

He rebounded well with 5 points.  He only scored five points and had one block.   Not like he played well enough to be the second coming.  Got to love CelticsBlog kneejerk reactions, LOL.

I think Spain shooting 2-22 from three point land hurt them more than Gobert.  Heurtel and Diaw always kept them with scoring.   But Spains poor three pointing shooting killed them and Gobert did step up with some boards and a key tap.   But you make him sound like Wilt Chamberlain which wasn't exactly what I saw in the game.

I still think he has NBA back up written all over him.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: RJ87 on September 16, 2014, 09:34:57 AM
The Jazz's small forward is Hayward; he's more effective at that position than at shooting guard.  He was just forced to play out of position last year because Corbin decided that Richard Jefferson was worth starting in the year 2014.

That said, they're NOWHERE near ready to compete yet.  They only signed Hayward to such a huge contract because they matched the Bobcats' offer.  They will assuredly be a lottery ream yet again.

Kanter is probably more obtainable than Gobert for the simple fact that Kanter will have to be paid sooner; this is the last year of his rookie contract, whereas Gobert is going into his second year.  They've already invested big money in Favors and Hayward; I'm not sure if they're sold on Kanter, since he and Favors are both probably better at playing center than power forward.

To be fair, I said they were getting ready to compete. I don't see them as a playoff team this year and maybe not next, but they have a lot of young talent and if some of them materialize, they should be in really good shape.

I agree that Hayward should start at sf and Burks had somewhat of a break-out year last year. I know they drafted Hood (as I thought he might be a good fit on the Cs), but he is too young to really contribute right now. Again, they seem loaded at just about every position - which is pretty awesome for them moving forward.

As for Kanter, is he somebody we would really want entering his final year before [possibly] getting paid? Is his upside really still there?

I think Exum is their 2 guard of the future - he's raw but that backcourt rotation of Burke/Exum/Burks deserves time to grow. At the wing they have Hayward. I think - correct me if I'm wrong - they have young talent at every position but PF (I think Favors and Kanter are def centers). Wonder if they'd move one of their centers for either KO or Sully?
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: manl_lui on September 16, 2014, 09:45:06 AM
(http://www.tabdeportes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/1d5.jpg)

I dare someone to look at this picture with a straight face for five seconds.  I can't.

[dang] you! I died at 2 seconds
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: Endless Paradise on September 16, 2014, 10:28:11 AM
As for Kanter, is he somebody we would really want entering his final year before [possibly] getting paid? Is his upside really still there?

He's younger than both Sullinger and Olynyk and has never gotten a chance to hold down a full-time starting position for a season.  The upside is still very much so there.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: Future Celtics Owner on October 01, 2014, 01:55:38 AM
As the president of the Rudy Gobert fan club I just want to say that Utah (the fans)think there is a very good chance that he ends up being a backup or even out of the league in a couple years....so do I.

If we did Zeller 4 Gobert ...I'd be parting like 99'

They would def take KO or Sully for him but I am not too sure about that bc its still a gamble on Gobert, even more than with KO/ Sully

The only way it would work is if we drafted Karl Towns and had Gobert at center. That would be a legit twin towers front court . Towns would destroy other 4's with his skill set and height .

BTW Its late and I'm dreaming.
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: CFAN38 on October 01, 2014, 07:17:38 AM
He had a good game when it mattered but here are this stats for the league

http://www.fiba.com/basketballworldcup/2014/Rudy-GOBERT

http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.html?PlayerID=203497


One good game doth not a player make, just ask Exum.

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t Gobert is the real deal.

He rebounded well with 5 points.  He only scored five points and had one block.   Not like he played well enough to be the second coming.  Got to love CelticsBlog kneejerk reactions, LOL.

I think Spain shooting 2-22 from three point land hurt them more than Gobert.  Heurtel and Diaw always kept them with scoring.   But Spains poor three pointing shooting killed them and Gobert did step up with some boards and a key tap.   But you make him sound like Wilt Chamberlain which wasn't exactly what I saw in the game.

I still think he has NBA back up written all over him.

I just read this from a couple of weeks ago, I dont think there is a knee-jerk reaction on Gobert. His stat like is 5pt 5rb 1blk in 16min in a tournament where he is probably one of the (if not the) youngest bigs getting minutes. Im not saying he is the second coming for Russell or even Mutumbo for that matter but I do think he at least hits the same level as Sanders or maybe Chandler. Not bad for a late 1st round pick..
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: triboy16f on October 14, 2014, 10:01:54 PM
He had 20 rebounds the other night. Some teams are going to regrett passing him over.

Snell, karasev for example both looking like busts
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: triboy16f on October 14, 2014, 10:10:03 PM
Green for gobert. Do it danny
Title: Re: Rudy Gobert
Post by: Endless Paradise on October 14, 2014, 10:28:35 PM
You kinda need Dennis Lindsey to agree to that.  And there's absolutely no way he would.