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Title: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: FLCeltsFan on November 01, 2012, 09:24:39 PM
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Milwaukee Bucks (0-0) at Boston Celtics (0-1)
Regular Season Game #2 – Home Game #1
Friday, November 2, 2012
7:30 PM ET
TV:  CSN-NE, FSN-WI, NBA-LP 755(MIL)/756(BOS)
Radio:  WEEI, WTMJ
TD Garden

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Probable Starting Matchups
Point Guard
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Rajon Rondo vs Brandon Jennings

Shooting Guard

(http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/courtney_lee.jpg)  vs  (http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/monta_ellis.jpg)
Courtney Lee vs Monta Ellis

Small Forward

(http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/662.jpg)  vs  (http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/tobias_harris.jpg)
Paul Pierce vs Tobias Harris 

Power Forward
(http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/brandon_bass.jpg)  vs  (http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/ersan_ilyasova.jpg)
Brandon Bass vs Ersan Ilyasova

Center

(http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/261.jpg)  vs  (http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/samuel_dalembert.jpg)
Kevin Garnett vs Samuel Dalembert

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Celtics Reserves

Jared Sullinger
Jason Collins
Jason Terry
Jeff Green
Kris Joseph
Fab Melo
Darko Milicic
Leandro Barbosa
Chris Wilcox

Injuries
Avery Bradley (shoulders) out

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Bucks Bench
Marquis Daniels
Mike Dunleavy
Drew Gooden
Doron Lamb
Larry Sanders
Ekpe Udoh
Beno Udrih

Injuries
John Hanson (knee) questionable
Luc Richard Mbah a Moute (knee) out
Joel Przybilla (ankle) probable

Team Connections:
Bucks Assistant Coach Joe Wolf played for the Celtics during the 1992-93 season…
 Bucks Trainer Marc Boff worked for the Celtics for eight seasons as an assistant trainer and physical therapist
Armond Hill played for the Bucks during the 1982-83 season
Brandon Jennings, Doron Lamb and Rajon Rondo attended Oak Hill Academy
Drew Gooden and Paul Pierce both attended the University of Kansas
Bucks Assistant Coach Jim Boylan and Celtics Head Coach Doc Rivers both attended Marquette Universtiy
Courtney Lee and Samuel Dalembert were teammates in Houston during the 2011-12 season
Jason Terry was teammates with Joel Przybilla in Atlanta during the 2003-04 season
Jason Terry and Drew Gooden were teammates in Dallas during the 2009-10 season.
Marquis Daniels played for the Celtics from 2009-12

Game Notes
After a disappointing loss to the Heat to open the season the Celtics return home looking to establish dominance at home and get their first win of the season.   Defense will be a priority for the Celtics as will getting better play from the second unit. 

Milwaukee has held Boston below 90 points in three of the past five meetings but has only scored an average of just 80.0  points per game over those 5 games.   But that was against the Celtics team that was ranked at the top of the league for the past two seasons, not the team that allowed 120 points to the Heat in the opener.   Hopefully, the Celtics will soon get back to being that defensive team again soon. 

 The Bucks' losing streak in the series between these two teams  reached  6 games when the Celtics beat the Bucks on  April 26, in a game where Rajon Rondo went scoreless but had 15 assists and the Celtics won 87-74 in a defensive struggle.   

Former Celtic Marquis Daniels will return to the Garden with his new team  and deserves a big hand from the fans.  Opening their season on the road is nothing new for the Bucks as this is the 28th consecutive season that they have opened on the road.  In this instance Milwaukee will also begin the season at the same location its previous season ended with a 74-87 loss at the Garden on April 26.

 With a couple of days off to study film and try to correct the mistakes of the previous game, hopefully the Celtics will come out with a defensive mindset and play a bit more cohesively. 

Key Matchups
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Rajon Rondo vs Brandon Jennings
Jennings is a good young PG who is working to make a name for himself in the league.  Jennings has talked trash in every game against the Celtics.   You might even remember him shouting trash at KG as he was heading to the locker room after a game in his rookie year.  Rondo should look to make a statement here and win this match up in a big way.   

(http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/4484.jpg)vs(http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3966.jpg)
Courtney Lee vs Monta Ellis 
Ellis is capable of putting a lot of points on the board and CLee needs to clamp down defensively to try to contain him.  He played Wade very well in the first game but was hampered by some quick and questionable foul calls by the refs.  On the other end, Ellis can be a lazy defender at times and it might open up the court for Lee to get some easy shots. 

Honorable Mention
Kevin Garnett vs Samuel Dalembert
KG should be able to get past Dalembert to get his shot off.  We may also get to see Darko in this game as he would match up well against the Bucks' centers. 


Keys to the Game

DEFENSE! -   The Celtics must tighten up their defense, especially on the pick and roll.  They allowed way too many easy points against the Heat.  Hopefully we will see the tough defense that we have come to expect from them.  The Bucks can put up a lot of points and they also defend well so the Celtics must play tough defense if they want to get this win.   

Rebound - The Celtics must crash the boards to prevent the Bucks from getting second chance points.  Rebounding is all about effort and when the Celtics put out the effort on the boards that effort seems to carry over into all the other areas of their game.  Failure to rebound will result in a failure to win. 

Limit Turnovers- The Celtics turn the ball over way too much.  They make careless passes.  They lose track of their defender and lose the ball to them.  They dribble into traffic and lose the handle.  All of this could be fixed with more focus and discipline on the part of each player. 

Bench Play
- The Celtics have a deep bench and they have some good players on the bench.   Jeff Green and Jason Terry need to shake off whatever was ailing them in the last game and lead the second unit as they are capable of doing. 


X-Factors

Defense and Bench Play
The Celtics need to get back to their defensive priorities that they have become known for since KG joined the team.   They need to especially improve on pick and roll defense.   Also, the second unit have to play up to expectations.   Jeff Green and Jason Terry, especially have to play better than they did in the first game.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: apc on November 01, 2012, 10:54:34 PM
TP, now i can put the Heat game behind me
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Valentines_at_Popeyes on November 01, 2012, 10:57:27 PM
Looking forward to this game.  Going to try a new teriyaki wings recipe :)

Hope Marquis gets a standing O.  I have a lot of affection for that dude.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: j804 on November 02, 2012, 12:22:18 AM
I could smell a blow out at home
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: bello_man09 on November 02, 2012, 12:31:55 AM
we need to win by at least 15...whos the dude playing SF for the bucks never heard of him...
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Evantime34 on November 02, 2012, 12:38:13 AM
we need to win by at least 15...whos the dude playing SF for the bucks never heard of him...
Came out after one year at Tennessee and was a lottery pick. Didn't get to have a training camp in his rookie year with lockout shortened season but he's young athletic and pretty good.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Celtics18 on November 02, 2012, 12:42:51 AM
Looking forward to this game.  Going to try a new teriyaki wings recipe :)

Hope Marquis gets a standing O.  I have a lot of affection for that dude.

Me too.  TP.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Atzar on November 02, 2012, 12:43:59 AM
we need to win by at least 15...whos the dude playing SF for the bucks never heard of him...

One-and-done guy at Tennessee, he's in his second year now.  Didn't play all that much last year, but was pretty impressive when he did.

He's a bit of a tweener.  Not quick enough to be a true 3, not strong enough to be a true 4.  As an SF he should be an above average rebounder.  He can score in a lot of different ways and Paul will have to pay attention to him on defense, but Pierce will score on him as well.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: ACF on November 02, 2012, 06:06:44 AM


Time to bounce back. Rondo's probably going to get his first trip-dub tonight.



Hope Marquis gets a standing O.  I have a lot of affection for that dude.

Me too.  TP.

Me three. +1. Quisy will always be a Celtic to me.






TP, FL and GO CELTICS!


Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 07:26:36 AM
I expect KG is gonna be plenty mad over the HEAT game and is liable to take it out on the Bucks.

Like the Lee/Ellis matchup !! both could foul out.

Looking for Sully to bounce back as well.

Go C's !!!!!
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: slamtheking on November 02, 2012, 08:02:46 AM
time to kick some Buck Butt
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Rondo2287 on November 02, 2012, 08:28:06 AM
Bass/Jeff Green vs Ersan should be very interesting to watch.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: billysan on November 02, 2012, 10:30:34 AM
Should be a couple of very interesting big man matchups here. You could even say they are opportunities to earn some minutes for a couple guys. Jared Sullinger vs Drew Gooden and Darko Milicic vs Sam Dalembert. Ekpe Udoh and Larry Sanders vs Jeff Green. 

Hoping for 'big' things from Jeff Green. This should be a redemption game for him.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Rondo2287 on November 02, 2012, 10:36:27 AM
Should be a couple of very interesting big man matchups here. You could even say they are opportunities to earn some minutes for a couple guys. Jared Sullinger vs Drew Gooden and Darko Milicic vs Sam Dalembert. Ekpe Udoh and Larry Sanders vs Jeff Green. 

Hoping for 'big' things from Jeff Green. This should be a redemption game for him.

Its an 82 game season and right now he is a bench player for us.  He has nothing to redeem himself for.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: snively on November 02, 2012, 11:56:46 AM
At least the Bucks won't be able to stretch us out quite as much Miami - Ersan's a dangerous shooter, but Harris isn't and Dally will allow KG to stay in the paint.  That neuters some of the threat of Jennings and Ellis penetratio.  Ersan and Dally will be a pain on the offensive boards though. 

Offensively, you'd hope Paul will punish the young guy and Rondo will create havoc with KG pulling Dalembert out of the paint.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: perks-a-beast on November 02, 2012, 12:11:37 PM
Marquis deserves a nice round of applause. I hope he can play some valuable minutes for the Bucks this season.

Milwaukees back court has the potential to be deadly. This is really one game i wish the Celts had Bradley.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Q_FBE on November 02, 2012, 12:49:49 PM
The Celtics work game two with their remodeled team. I am still trying to learn the numbers of each new player.

Correct me if I am wrong.

#4 - Jason Terry
#7 - Jared Sullenger
#8 - Jeff Green
#11 - Courtney Lee
#12 - Leondro Barbosa

What number does Darko Milicic wear?
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: snively on November 02, 2012, 01:18:14 PM
The Celtics work game two with their remodeled team. I am still trying to learn the numbers of each new player.

Correct me if I am wrong.

#4 - Jason Terry
#7 - Jared Sullenger
#8 - Jeff Green
#11 - Courtney Lee
#12 - Leondro Barbosa

What number does Darko Milicic wear?
#99
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 02, 2012, 01:39:03 PM
time for the celtics first win of the season...the first of more.  :D

should be interesting game. milwaukee has a backcourt that can certainly score. but the celtics should still be able to pull away with an easy victory.

go celtics!!!!!!
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: KGs Knee on November 02, 2012, 01:43:53 PM
Interested to see how Green plays tonight.  I'm still not sold he is going to live up to his contract or be a true impact player for us, but he does have it in him, I think.

Starting tonight, and going forward, I'd like to see how he responds.  Was it just one bad game vs a tough matchup, or is this really it from him?
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: arambone on November 02, 2012, 06:28:50 PM
I look forward to extended minutes for all our non-Rondo guards. And a win.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 06:47:36 PM
I look forward to extended minutes for all our non-Rondo guards. And a win.

Would like to see KJ get a few minutes at the end of the game if we can get a lead .
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 02, 2012, 07:15:58 PM
Donny didn't understand setting the tone, what a horrible announcer, please fire him yesterday he is a borderline Celtic Hater and probably still in love with Ray Allen.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: AshyLarry on November 02, 2012, 07:30:29 PM
Can't wait for the Queezy Daniels ovation. Also can't wait to see our guards start to play to their potential.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on November 02, 2012, 07:31:04 PM
expect a big game from Pierce I think dat 20ppg is possible dis year wit Ray out da startin lineup
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Kiorrik on November 02, 2012, 07:32:23 PM
Hm. Got some smoked salmon, some wasabi peanuts... time for some basketball. Good morning Australia, good evening US.

LET'S GO CELTICS!!
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: j804 on November 02, 2012, 07:35:10 PM
Hm. Got some smoked salmon, some wasabi peanuts... time for some basketball. Good morning Australia, good evening US.

LET'S GO CELTICS!!
LOL nice, I'm on the road enroute to the casino so catching replay at 8:00 hopefully

Go C's!!!!!
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: ejk3489 on November 02, 2012, 07:38:29 PM
I think I'm more excited for this game than I was on Tuesday...guess it's finally hit me that the Celtics are back.

Expect the bench to come up big tonight...hopefully Green will feel more comfortable  at home.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 07:39:58 PM
I'm overdue a win ...lets rock it out C's
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: letsgoblue86 on November 02, 2012, 07:42:36 PM
I like Lee's height advantage over Ellis.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: AshyLarry on November 02, 2012, 07:47:58 PM
Just pan fried sum muhfuxin chicken. Got my peach tee and 2008 playoff rag from game 7 at ATL by my side.

Home opener, baby. C'S, BABY, C'S. LET'S GET THE W AND WORK TOWARD OUR GOAL, 18 BABY.

WOOOOO!!!
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: CelticSooner on November 02, 2012, 07:50:09 PM
Anyone else have any C's on their fantasy team? Have Jet and Lee myself.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: slamtheking on November 02, 2012, 07:52:26 PM
not liking the current lineup
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: letsgoblue86 on November 02, 2012, 07:53:37 PM
Need some easy buckets
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: snively on November 02, 2012, 07:54:07 PM
Without KG our bigs struggle with almost every kind of defense other than post defense - no rim protection, confused rotations, inconsistent pick and roll coverage.

Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: makaveli on November 02, 2012, 07:54:35 PM
28 years without a home opener...that's crazy...
about the game...p'n'r defense is atrocious, witch dates back to preseason
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: jdz101 on November 02, 2012, 07:55:20 PM
Without KG our bigs struggle with almost every kind of defense other than post defense - no rim protection, confused rotations, inconsistent pick and roll coverage.

The fact that Rondo has failed to stay in front of Jennings makes it consistently 5 on 4 anyway.

Guard D has been disgusting.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: lon3lytoaster on November 02, 2012, 07:56:02 PM
The Serbian Gangster is in. Should be fun
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: rondohondo on November 02, 2012, 07:56:20 PM
wow sullinger is falling all over himself on defense
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: AshyLarry on November 02, 2012, 07:56:48 PM
DARKO GOT A REBOUND!!!!. START DARKO!!!!!
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 07:57:28 PM
Sully man
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: ejk3489 on November 02, 2012, 07:57:36 PM
nice Sullinger
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: lon3lytoaster on November 02, 2012, 07:57:42 PM
Jared Sullinger.. I'm gonna love what he brings this season.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: slamtheking on November 02, 2012, 07:57:52 PM
good to see Sully keep at it but this team still looks really disjointed
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: snively on November 02, 2012, 07:58:13 PM
There we go.  I really hope we don't see many line-ups where Sully is the tallest Celtic.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: AshyLarry on November 02, 2012, 07:58:54 PM
THAT'S WHY SULLINGER WAS WORTH DRAFTING. RIGHT THERE!
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: snively on November 02, 2012, 07:59:32 PM
Without KG our bigs struggle with almost every kind of defense other than post defense - no rim protection, confused rotations, inconsistent pick and roll coverage.

The fact that Rondo has failed to stay in front of Jennings makes it consistently 5 on 4 anyway.

Guard D has been disgusting.

Rondo blew an Ellis coverage in transition, but this isn't one on one D.  It's team defense on pick and roll and only KG is really good at it among our bigs.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: ejk3489 on November 02, 2012, 08:04:08 PM
yeah, they can take Darko out any minute...
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: slamtheking on November 02, 2012, 08:04:49 PM
yeah, they can take Darko out any minute...
yeah, he's really sucking out there.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: snively on November 02, 2012, 08:04:57 PM
Wow, this bench cannot play D.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: letsgoblue86 on November 02, 2012, 08:05:02 PM
What the hell is wrong with this team? 
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: esel1000 on November 02, 2012, 08:05:38 PM
brutal end to the quarter... gotta pick it up
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on November 02, 2012, 08:05:42 PM
Too many turnovers, as usual.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticslove on November 02, 2012, 08:05:53 PM
sully already doing the KG no practice shot block.lol
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:06:05 PM
defense is still bad

rondo loafing on D

Terry is atrocious right now
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: jdz101 on November 02, 2012, 08:06:21 PM
I had my head in my hands for the the end of that quarter....those airballs were just awful
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: CelticSooner on November 02, 2012, 08:06:27 PM
Ugly first quarter. No cohesion at right now.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on November 02, 2012, 08:06:32 PM
Terry still looks out of sorts. And not sure why Wilcox hasn't played.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 08:06:46 PM
well that quarter sucked eggs.....no defense to speak of and not much offense....have they PRACTICED at all? ???
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: rondohondo on November 02, 2012, 08:06:51 PM
really wish we had another mobile big man defender. Darko and sully aren't going to cut it when kg is out of the game.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:07:01 PM
guards just don't defend at all

wilcox over darko please
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 02, 2012, 08:07:24 PM
An ugly quarter for the C's but expected.  They are going to need time. Hopefully they can get a couple of solid shifts from a couple of the new line-ups tonight and finish strong with RR, PP and KG (not sure who else but probably JET).
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:07:56 PM
no defense...and all turnovers...

this team looks really poor
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: lon3lytoaster on November 02, 2012, 08:08:26 PM
Barbosa.. Wow. Ouch.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:09:02 PM
sully is the lone bright spot tonight
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: TheBig5 on November 02, 2012, 08:09:15 PM
Barbosa missing that can't be a good sign for this game.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 08:09:52 PM
getting blown out by the Bucks at home ...REALLY ??? ::)
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: lon3lytoaster on November 02, 2012, 08:10:39 PM
Jared Sullinger though.. Good kid.

And Scalabrine was born for a color job on csnne
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:10:59 PM
boy...our guards are not defending

Terry never looked this bad in dallas
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: JoT on November 02, 2012, 08:11:16 PM
Yea this team will take some time to gel because woo they're playing bad.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: esel1000 on November 02, 2012, 08:11:41 PM
squandering a lot of easy buckets out there and giving up everything on defense... gotta fix this...
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:12:40 PM
gotta stop turning the ball over...offense looks like everyone trying to go one on one instead of playing team ball
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 02, 2012, 08:12:55 PM
Jared Sullinger though.. Good kid.

And Scalabrine was born for a color job on csnne

Ironic.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: CelticSooner on November 02, 2012, 08:13:36 PM
Wasting possessions letting Green shoot jumpers. He needs to be driving to the basket or posting up.

Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 08:13:42 PM
have these guys ever played together??? ;D
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: slamtheking on November 02, 2012, 08:13:45 PM
I realize there's only a few players that were with the team last year but these guys look like they just got together for a pickup game.  I put this on the coaching staff.  we had just as much turnover in 2008 but looked a helluva lot sharper than this.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on November 02, 2012, 08:13:49 PM
squandering a lot of easy buckets out there and giving up everything on defense... gotta fix this...

Ditto.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:14:24 PM
this is puke enducing. not closing out on guards...turnovers...getting whipped on the glass
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: JoT on November 02, 2012, 08:14:44 PM
Jared's playing really well.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:15:34 PM
not getting much out of green nor terry again
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 08:15:52 PM
this is on DOC...they aren' tplaying as a team
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:17:04 PM
22 points? sad
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: ejk3489 on November 02, 2012, 08:17:45 PM
guess they left all of their offense in Miami...defense still looks the same sadly :-\
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: JoT on November 02, 2012, 08:18:14 PM
I can't even laugh at the Lakers anymore because it seems like they're both going through it. This will take some time a long time because whatever they're doing right now is not working.


Edit: there is all of this offense and all they can come up with is 22 points?
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 08:18:34 PM
30%
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:18:40 PM
this team is lazy on defense...bucks getting second shots at will.

Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 02, 2012, 08:19:00 PM
From bad to worse.  I believe it will get better though.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: letsgoblue86 on November 02, 2012, 08:19:22 PM
This is putrid.  Why does no one box out on this team?
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 08:19:41 PM
my mother can shoot better than these guys
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Kiorrik on November 02, 2012, 08:19:50 PM
I would *really* like to see a good 5, 10 minutes of basketball. Even if it's a loss.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Roy H. on November 02, 2012, 08:19:50 PM
The one positive from this game:  Scal.

The rest looks like a sloppy exhibition game.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:20:03 PM
From bad to worse.  I believe it will get better though.


agree....but these guys look like a bunch of rookies that haven't played....can't get shots on offense....can't rebound....and getting destroyed on defense
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: GronkSpike on November 02, 2012, 08:20:21 PM
Look pretty bad so far.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 08:20:52 PM
the new BOSTON BOBCATS ;D
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: esel1000 on November 02, 2012, 08:21:00 PM
this is painful to watch... really gotta pick it up its only a 12 pt game but if they keep playing like this theyre gonna get blown out...
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: jdz101 on November 02, 2012, 08:21:14 PM
The fact that we are only down six baskets is a miracle....can still play a few good streaks and be back in this
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:21:16 PM
actually thought they would come out strong tonight.....instead they look like they have regressed in 2 days
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: esel1000 on November 02, 2012, 08:21:41 PM
pierce come on...
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: lon3lytoaster on November 02, 2012, 08:21:45 PM
Wow.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:21:59 PM
22 points with 4 minutes in the half is unacceptable
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Kiorrik on November 02, 2012, 08:22:04 PM
the new BOSTON BOBCATS ;D
TP. Made me laugh :]

We look pretty bad right now. Again. I hope we get at least a good five to ten minutes of Celtic basketball, with defense, passing and ... well... points.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 08:22:10 PM
The fact that we are only down six baskets is a miracle....can still play a few good streaks and be back in this

your right , had this been the heat , the game would be over .
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:24:18 PM
not closing out on 3s....

this team is just not very good right now. turnovers....getting out worked...putrid offense....this is really disappointing
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 08:24:38 PM
send in Kris Joseph , hear he practices anyways
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Roy H. on November 02, 2012, 08:24:43 PM
The fact that we are only down six baskets is a miracle....can still play a few good streaks and be back in this

your right , had this been the heat , the game would be over .

Not to be negative, but it's pretty close to over right now.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: esel1000 on November 02, 2012, 08:24:49 PM
idk how much of this I can watch... im happy this isnt one of the games I got tickets for though... ouch everythings going wrong out there
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: makaveli on November 02, 2012, 08:25:16 PM
Rondo is one of the most overrated defensive players ever
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:25:29 PM
down 18....at home...on opening night at home...vs the lowly bucks

not what i expected
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticslove on November 02, 2012, 08:25:35 PM
wow bucks killing us on all angle.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Roy H. on November 02, 2012, 08:25:45 PM
Nice, Sully!

A made basket and a stop!  Hallelujah!
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: esel1000 on November 02, 2012, 08:25:50 PM
2nd drawn charge for sully hes the only guy playing like he isnt a rookie out there haha... ironic...
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 02, 2012, 08:26:17 PM
Sullinger is really a bright spot.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:26:20 PM
Rondo is one of the most overrated defensive players ever


he is playing ZERO defense tonight. and lee isn't doing much more
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: JoT on November 02, 2012, 08:26:51 PM
What happened? I mean I know it's only the second game, but they put more effort against the Heat.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 08:27:45 PM
I may change my mind on who I want to trade for Josh Smith
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on November 02, 2012, 08:28:06 PM
I don't know what's worst, D or O..

C's really look like a D-team, terrible.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:28:22 PM
bass and sully best we got so far
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Roy H. on November 02, 2012, 08:28:45 PM
Bass giving us a little spark.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 02, 2012, 08:28:57 PM
It's all sloppy -- every possession, every defensive rebound...
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: letsgoblue86 on November 02, 2012, 08:29:02 PM
KG is so hesitant to get in the paint
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: CelticSooner on November 02, 2012, 08:29:03 PM
I know the Cs will be rolling in a couple of months but right now it still sucks.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:29:27 PM
will jeff green ever make an outside shot for boston?
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: ejk3489 on November 02, 2012, 08:30:12 PM
Is this the worst home opener in the Big 3 era?

You'd think it was early March...
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 08:30:23 PM
put in Kris Joseph and Wilcox
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: esel1000 on November 02, 2012, 08:30:50 PM
will jeff green ever make an outside shot for boston?

the curse of pietrus haha...
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 02, 2012, 08:30:59 PM
Green has missed 3 open 3's. 
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: CelticSooner on November 02, 2012, 08:31:05 PM
Green is left open for a reason. Attack the rim and play to your strengths!
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 02, 2012, 08:31:19 PM
Green playing some D.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:31:40 PM
guys are not getting through picks
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: esel1000 on November 02, 2012, 08:32:00 PM
30 first half points is unacceptable... just pitiful...
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 02, 2012, 08:32:51 PM
That is exactly how it should have ended.   Dismal half.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 08:33:10 PM
I want a League Pass refund :'(
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Roy H. on November 02, 2012, 08:33:17 PM
Well, that was a fun half.  Brings me back to my high school days.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 02, 2012, 08:33:22 PM
Celtics - worst team in the NBA right now?
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:33:34 PM
what a joke. jennings is killing rondo. what a poor and lazy effort by him

this is just awful....total failure in ALL aspects

Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: JoT on November 02, 2012, 08:33:52 PM
I hope they get a good talking to and come back out strong in the third because this is just sad.
I know they can do better than this because there is too much talent for them to play this bad.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: makaveli on November 02, 2012, 08:34:06 PM
and rondo calls himself the best...
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on November 02, 2012, 08:34:08 PM
Hard to watch.
Seems like the C's had no training camp at all.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticslove on November 02, 2012, 08:34:18 PM
ugly first half feels like watching a bobcats team
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on November 02, 2012, 08:34:25 PM
pathetic point guard defense nd trash offense  so far i think we will cut da lead in da 2nd half tho
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:34:51 PM
nice pride guys....way to have heart...coming home to get run out of your own gym to the bucks...

Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: mr. dee on November 02, 2012, 08:35:35 PM
LOL at the blow out prediction. We are getting blown up instead so far.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:35:39 PM
guards can't defend me...lee, terry and rondo getting destroyed
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:36:27 PM
if doc thought the offense was fool's gold vs miami...what is tonight?? a big FAT TURD
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: CelticSooner on November 02, 2012, 08:36:31 PM
If it makes anyone feel any better Heat stinking it up now too.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: syn2k12 on November 02, 2012, 08:37:07 PM
 i think im the only one here that thinks we will still win this game lol. but the heat are getting burned right now too... but they have plenty of time and are slowly chipping at the lead
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:37:24 PM
2 games so far this season....down 15 plus in each one...
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: vinnie on November 02, 2012, 08:37:26 PM
I, my son and the rest of the garden crowd having a great time
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 08:37:55 PM
I say keep Sully and Bass and send the rest to Maine
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Quinn on November 02, 2012, 08:38:07 PM
ugly first half feels like watching a bobcats team

...as the cats are actually leading in a game
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:38:46 PM
sure hope jason terry and jeff green eventually realize they are playing the regular season...right now those 2 guys lost
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: rondohondo on November 02, 2012, 08:39:27 PM
time to blow it up.

tank tank tank, we need nerlens noel ;)
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 08:39:37 PM
ugly first half feels like watching a bobcats team

...as the cats are actually leading in a game

you sure know how rub salt in a wound .. ;D
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Roy H. on November 02, 2012, 08:39:50 PM
i think im the only one here that thinks we will still win this game lol. but the heat are getting burned right now too... but they have plenty of time and are slowly chipping at the lead

TP for the optimism!
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: JoT on November 02, 2012, 08:40:15 PM
I thought Rondo said he changed and would play consistent throughout the season.

I'm still here and still have faith in this team.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:40:30 PM
we need bradley. he is the only guy who can defend guards

tired of watching rondo get worked by opposing PGs....
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:42:17 PM
i am really hoping for jeff green to be great in boston...but so far as a Celtic he seems to disappear and can't make anything
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Kiorrik on November 02, 2012, 08:42:31 PM
I, my son and the rest of the garden crowd having a great time
Awesome, Vinnie. Hope that continues and ends in a win.

Have a blast :]
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 08:43:03 PM
yep ...we need AB ....the kid is a dynamo
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: aporel#18 on November 02, 2012, 08:43:21 PM
ok, time to regroup and start playing celtic ball. We need time to get better, but that's no excuse for not playing a lot better.

Let's go Celtics! clap, clap, clap-clap-clap!
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Mr Green on November 02, 2012, 08:43:56 PM
Not looking good so far at half time, but I'm proud of Sully and Bass putting in hard work. Jet should have stayed home today.

The Boston-Miami game a few days ago must have taken a huge physical and emotional toll on everyone involved, even Miami. At the end of the first quarter Miami is down 33-17 to the Knicks.

On the bright side, at least we don't have to worry about peaking at the start of the season!
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:44:06 PM
i am just hoping we see green, terry and lee make some shots....right now this is painful
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: droopdog7 on November 02, 2012, 08:46:06 PM
That was one ugly first half.  More disappointed in terry than anyone else.  Thought he was slowing down last year.  Hopefully we didn't catch him after he fell off the cliff.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: billysan on November 02, 2012, 08:47:15 PM
Here's hoping that all this struggle leads to some cohesion. Feels like they are playing underwater with blindfolds on. Only Bass, Sullinger and Barbosa playing well so far.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: billysan on November 02, 2012, 08:49:38 PM
Good old Donny, says the defense is a sieve. Way to tell it buddy.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticslove on November 02, 2012, 08:51:41 PM
the only good thing today is ersan ilyasova's game as he is on my fantasy league team
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: billysan on November 02, 2012, 08:53:00 PM
Really wold have rather seen a dunk from KG there.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:53:52 PM
disgusting on defense
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: esel1000 on November 02, 2012, 08:54:32 PM
disgusting on defense

thats being generous in your terminology...
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 08:55:07 PM
YAwnnnnnnn ...help us lord
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:56:51 PM
so much for Doc's idea of getting out of the gate quickly
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: billysan on November 02, 2012, 08:57:10 PM
Yay, a stop.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:57:22 PM
time for some more jeff green....sweet!
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: ejk3489 on November 02, 2012, 08:57:26 PM
Bucks are shooting 6/13 on threes   :-X :-\
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: billysan on November 02, 2012, 08:58:07 PM
KG at the stripe... ;D
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 08:58:14 PM
Bucks are shooting 6/13 on threes   :-X :-\

and boston can't buy one
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 02, 2012, 08:58:51 PM
1-1 on 3's after the whistle.

0-6 when the game is being played.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: syn2k12 on November 02, 2012, 08:59:24 PM
keep getting to the line there we go :)
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Kiorrik on November 02, 2012, 08:59:35 PM
Notice the dead silence from both Mike & Tommy when Rondo's at the line :]
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticslove on November 02, 2012, 09:00:20 PM
here we go... time to play the game. let's go C's
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 09:00:36 PM
great offense...4 guys standing around while rondo dribbles around
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 02, 2012, 09:01:01 PM
D picking up a bit. 

Good chance last possession to get the game down to a reasonable number and put some pressure on the Bucks and offense does nothing.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: makaveli on November 02, 2012, 09:01:17 PM
things looking up?
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: jdz101 on November 02, 2012, 09:01:41 PM
Jeff green needs to put the ball on the floor and attack the basket...

They have no fouls to give and he is just standing in the corner.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 09:01:58 PM
D picking up a bit. 

Good chance last possession to get the game down to a reasonable number and put some pressure on the Bucks and offense does nothing.

except throw up 3's...that continue to go in
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: billysan on November 02, 2012, 09:02:23 PM
Lead is down to 14. Chop Chop let's see 12. Opps, clang.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 09:03:06 PM
dear God Pierce....stay on your feet.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: slamtheking on November 02, 2012, 09:03:22 PM
good lord.  and the concensus was this team would be much better offensively than last year
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: billysan on November 02, 2012, 09:03:51 PM
It's gonna take a big 4th quarter to pull this one out.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: slamtheking on November 02, 2012, 09:03:55 PM
and the boos begin.  can't say I blame the crowd
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 09:04:00 PM
jennings > rondo...at least tonight

boy this team is FLAT OUT lost. pathetic.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticslove on November 02, 2012, 09:04:05 PM
wow paul pierce. ::)
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: GronkSpike on November 02, 2012, 09:04:13 PM
Oh DEER
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 09:04:27 PM
Upside..if this keeps up , we are lock for lottery pick!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 09:04:48 PM
jeff green made a shot. can't believe it
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: KG Living Legend on November 02, 2012, 09:05:11 PM
what's the score now
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 09:05:52 PM
what's the score now

Cs down 18...almost end of third
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticslove on November 02, 2012, 09:06:00 PM
jeff green made a shot. can't believe it
lol what a game
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 02, 2012, 09:06:19 PM
Pierce is just awful tonight. 

Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: billysan on November 02, 2012, 09:06:25 PM
We cant throw the ball in the ocean.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 09:06:45 PM
Pierce is just awful tonight.

he looks about 80 tonight.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Redz on November 02, 2012, 09:06:58 PM
tuned in 2nd half

what happened to Terry?
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: illestmcsgt on November 02, 2012, 09:07:08 PM
What Celtics need to do is quick being so careless with the ball and play DEFENSE! This is just ugly to watch they look tired and not into the game at all.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 09:07:35 PM
tuned in 2nd half

what happened to Terry?

still can't defend
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: droopdog7 on November 02, 2012, 09:07:42 PM
Well, 0-2 here we come.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: esel1000 on November 02, 2012, 09:07:59 PM
im gonna have nightmares from this game...
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: ms.ball on November 02, 2012, 09:08:43 PM
This is just Sad to watch!!!!!
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: JoT on November 02, 2012, 09:09:10 PM
Well, 0-2 here we come.
I didn't want this to happen but man we're in the same place as the Lakers.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 09:09:19 PM
jason terry is flat out awful. can't make a shot....massive turnover machine....horrible on defense


these guys cannot play together at all. boston has a lot of work to do
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticslove on November 02, 2012, 09:09:28 PM
hey doc Free Melo and Joseph! ;D
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 09:09:54 PM
51 points heading into the 4th....what a freakin joke
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on November 02, 2012, 09:10:29 PM
Everybody is awful tonight, EVERYBODY.  >:(
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 09:10:34 PM
hey doc Free Melo and Joseph! ;D

been saying put KJ in all along...boy can shoot.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: illestmcsgt on November 02, 2012, 09:11:28 PM
hey doc Free Melo and Joseph! ;D

If anything I will NEVER give up on the Celtics ever again. Remember the 4th quarter come back?
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: ms.ball on November 02, 2012, 09:12:11 PM
Pierce is just awful tonight.
Yep.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 09:12:51 PM
jason terry cannot cover guards when they turn the corner. he is getting destroyed.


well now what....defense is still not even at the level of bad yet....rebounding is not happening...looks like they have no chemistry whatsoever
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: JoT on November 02, 2012, 09:14:12 PM
Well I hope they can beat the Wizards.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticslove on November 02, 2012, 09:14:26 PM
hey doc Free Melo and Joseph! ;D

If anything I will NEVER give up on the Celtics ever again. Remember the 4th quarter come back?
today is not the day my friend you can just see it in their body language. well i hope i eat my words though
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: billysan on November 02, 2012, 09:15:27 PM
This is what a spanking feels like.  :'(
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 09:15:31 PM
Well I hope they can beat the Wizards.

prolly not...it is a road back to back...they hardly ever win those
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticslove on November 02, 2012, 09:15:49 PM
Well I hope they can beat the Wizards.
i hope we win first before them lakers. ;D
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: vinnie on November 02, 2012, 09:15:49 PM
This is very depressing. Lots of booing
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 09:16:02 PM
Well I hope they can beat the Wizards.


Maybe  ???  Maybe not  ???
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: makaveli on November 02, 2012, 09:16:11 PM
Let's see what this team is made of...
if it was my decision, Barbosa would have played 10 min so far...Rondo is the worst guy out there, everything is starting with Jennings
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Redz on November 02, 2012, 09:17:12 PM
they seem committed to running despite the Bucks doing a good job getting back on D.  Like they're trying to force it on the Bucks...just not successfully at all.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: slamtheking on November 02, 2012, 09:17:22 PM
absolutely horrid game.  I can't point to a single positive to build on for this team.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 09:18:31 PM
absolutely horrid game.  I can't point to a single positive to build on for this team.

TP. epic fail in every area
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 09:18:56 PM
absolutely horrid game.  I can't point to a single positive to build on for this team.


maybe..we are a lock for a lotto pick  ???
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: CelticSooner on November 02, 2012, 09:20:21 PM
If the C's are going to lose can Lee and Jet at least give me some fantasy points?
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: ejk3489 on November 02, 2012, 09:20:43 PM
Well, it took a few games/weeks for the team to get it together last season, but that was with limited training camp/pre-season.

Still, I'll give this team time to gel time before I start to panic.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Redz on November 02, 2012, 09:20:50 PM
absolutely horrid game.  I can't point to a single positive to build on for this team.

Darko is well rested?
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 02, 2012, 09:21:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4jGSvxCRp4

To qoute Walton, " We look horrible!"
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: celticinorlando on November 02, 2012, 09:21:50 PM
this is a really really bad defensive team. they can't stop the PnR nor can they stay with anyone outside
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 02, 2012, 09:23:10 PM
I am not even remotely close to giving up on this team but this is a deeply frustrating game to watch. 
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: CelticSooner on November 02, 2012, 09:23:21 PM
this is a really really bad defensive team. they can't stop the PnR nor can they stay with anyone outside

The one that worries me.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: tenn_smoothie on November 02, 2012, 09:23:45 PM
and how many of us got lambasted for telling the truth about Jeff Green ?? did you see that pick & roll "defense" he just didn't play - a high school player knows you don't let the screener run completely loose, especially when he is your man to start with !!!!! and yes, i'll say it, Perk wouldn't have screwed that up.

Jeff Green is the opposite of a gamer.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Roy H. on November 02, 2012, 09:24:10 PM
Bad call there.

Blame this game on the refs!
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: makaveli on November 02, 2012, 09:24:41 PM
unbelievable that a veteran based team with championship aspirations is getting rapped on one of the basic plays in basketball, p+n+r, all game long
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Kuberski1 on November 02, 2012, 09:24:58 PM
Defense absolutely terrible....and almost no ball movement on O.  Recipe for disaster...
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Q_FBE on November 02, 2012, 09:25:11 PM
Looks like my lucky charms are working. NOT!!
Back to the drawing board for me ???
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 09:25:25 PM
(http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af13/74Z28PILOT/beat-la.jpg)
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: JoT on November 02, 2012, 09:25:36 PM
I hope all the struggling they have right now helps them grow as a team and get better. At least it's early in the season and not in the March/April part of the season.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: blink on November 02, 2012, 09:26:05 PM
Well I was willing to overlook the poor def effort in the 1st game.  But after 3 days of rest, playing a team that didn't make the playoffs last year our effort on D has been pathetic.  I am not even sure what the coaches should focus on for improving the D, it is all so completely bad.  The effort is bad, the switching on the P&R is bad, they aren't talking, they aren't helping the other defenders.  This isn't celtic bball. I wonder if doc needs to kick a bit of butt at this point.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: ms.ball on November 02, 2012, 09:26:12 PM
This game is depressing, if I wasn't pregnant I would have a stiff one or four!
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: billysan on November 02, 2012, 09:26:42 PM
Will we break 85?
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Tradetime on November 02, 2012, 09:27:08 PM
We need to give up on the idea that Garnett is a center, and play our bigs. Christ, throw Melo out there for the remainder of the fourth anyway. He isn't going to get any better on the bench.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: JoT on November 02, 2012, 09:28:44 PM
Will we break 85?
Heck will they even get to 70 is what I'm wondering right now.

Edit: now they're at 70. I'm hoping to get to 75 now.
I'm taking baby steps with them right now.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 02, 2012, 09:28:53 PM
A stop and a hoop now.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: ejk3489 on November 02, 2012, 09:29:34 PM
Could've really used Wilcox tonight...is he still not ready/healthy?
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: billysan on November 02, 2012, 09:29:45 PM
I hope all the struggling they have right now helps them grow as a team and get better. At least it's early in the season and not in the March/April part of the season.
Yeah, hope it is a chemistry experiment/exercise.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 02, 2012, 09:32:07 PM
There was a second or two of excitement there.  Gone now. 
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Q_FBE on November 02, 2012, 09:32:22 PM
Some times you need games like this to get the focus going.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 09:32:31 PM
excuse me , I'm need n a beer
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: AB_Celtic on November 02, 2012, 09:33:10 PM
They should be embarrassed right now. This is awful. No other way to put it.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: bdm860 on November 02, 2012, 09:33:21 PM
This is just like when I play a clearly inferior team on NBA 2k on one of the harder settings and end up getting my butt kicked.  I just don't understand how they're hitting everything and I can't hit anything.  Just like that.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: billysan on November 02, 2012, 09:33:36 PM
excuse me , I'm need n a beer
Time to make a little run, son.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: vinnie on November 02, 2012, 09:33:50 PM
Small ball stinks. This team stinks
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: slamtheking on November 02, 2012, 09:33:54 PM
absolutely horrid game.  I can't point to a single positive to build on for this team.
came up with a positive to build on --> the core of this team is signed for 3 years so they'll have plenty of time to work on chemistry for the 2014-2015 season  :P
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: CelticSooner on November 02, 2012, 09:34:09 PM
We'll get ya back Bucks.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: blink on November 02, 2012, 09:34:19 PM
giving up easy alley-op dunks in transition is not going to win many games for us.  Our effort is lousy.  At this point I would empty the bench and spend the rest of the game in all the 1st team and 2 teams ears...

I am not giving up on the season, we are going to be good, but we still have to PLAY and give the effort.  no one is just going to hand us wins.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: billysan on November 02, 2012, 09:35:35 PM
Gary says Donny has the answer, cant wait. Oooooohyeaaaaah.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: slamtheking on November 02, 2012, 09:36:14 PM
hey, a Wilcox sighting.  where was he earlier?
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: slamtheking on November 02, 2012, 09:37:41 PM
Gary says Donny has the answer, cant wait. Oooooohyeaaaaah.
guaranteed it has something to do with his playing days and name dropping someone who actually had talent.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: JoT on November 02, 2012, 09:38:14 PM
I'm just laughing right now.
Th only way this night can get better is if the Lakers and Heat lose because... man this is bad.
Maybe they needed this to bring them back to earth and get closer as a team to gain chemistry.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Mr Green on November 02, 2012, 09:38:26 PM
At least we're not alone in having a bad day... Indiana just lost to Charlotte, and it looks like Miami are being put to the sword by the Knicks.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 02, 2012, 09:39:10 PM
Ok...I know whats missing..there is ZERO leadership out on the court ...nobody is in charge??? They all are standing around waiting on each other to do something .. ::) ???
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: ejk3489 on November 02, 2012, 09:40:37 PM
Could've really used Wilcox tonight...is he still not ready/healthy?

Well there's my answer...think Doc should've have used him earlier tonight, he definitely wouldn't have hurt.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: PhoSita on November 02, 2012, 09:40:52 PM
aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Okay, glad I got that out of my system.  On to the next game, I guess.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: JoT on November 02, 2012, 09:41:51 PM
At least they won't lose too badly.
Just learn and regroup and please beat the Wizards.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: slamtheking on November 02, 2012, 09:44:25 PM
At least they won't lose too badly.
Just learn and regroup and please beat the Wizards.
we can only hope.  after watching this team's D the past 2 games, I dread what Wall could do to this D.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: blink on November 02, 2012, 09:46:39 PM
Well I was happy that Wilcox was moving ok, and didn't look too bad for a few minutes.  I like K Joseph.  Good things seem to happen when he is on the court.

Such a poor effort though, eventually you need to pull together a get a win.   Hopefully that is tomorrow.   If not, we all are going to be in a bad mood haha.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: JoT on November 02, 2012, 09:47:33 PM
At least they won't lose too badly.
Just learn and regroup and please beat the Wizards.
we can only hope.  after watching this team's D the past 2 games, I dread what Wall could do to this D.
I don't think I can watch that game.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: blastoidesroidsnoids on November 02, 2012, 09:49:55 PM
starting to think that we absolutely must trade for smith
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: angryguy77 on November 02, 2012, 09:52:09 PM
Well at least Miami is getting its manhood kicked in right  now
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 02, 2012, 09:55:38 PM
man... all these undersized shooting guards and we're still getting owned on the boards and can't protect the rim.  SHOCKING. 

It'll be fine.  I had us going starting the season playing .500 ball... everyone will panic... eventually we'll get it together (hopefully by making a big trade).
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on November 02, 2012, 09:58:45 PM
was shootin under 40% til da 4th quarter we cant come out dat flat nd expect to win games i expect betta outta my celtics
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: rmitchell222003 on November 02, 2012, 09:59:45 PM
They doing this on purpose. Celtics are a 2nd half team. I cant believe i actually bet on this game.

Honestly, i think Rondo holds the ball a lil too long in our half court offense. Catch and go or pass in cut. we need more movement and less dribbling
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on November 02, 2012, 10:01:24 PM
At least they won't lose too badly.
Just learn and regroup and please beat the Wizards.
we can only hope.  after watching this team's D the past 2 games, I dread what Wall could do to this D.
Wall wont be playin cuz of a knee injury
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: tgreanier on November 02, 2012, 10:01:34 PM
My 8 year old and I had to watch the game on DVR because we were at a cub scout meeting. We could not wait to get home to watch the home opener.

What in the name of all that is holy was that? Until about 2 minutes were left we both thought there is no way this can continue...

If they lose to the Wizards tomorrow my son may be traumatized for life. Don't let that happen Green.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Tradetime on November 02, 2012, 10:04:40 PM
hey, a Wilcox sighting.  where was he earlier?

We don't need a center out there, we have KG to give up 60 points in the paint.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: slamtheking on November 02, 2012, 10:09:17 PM
At least they won't lose too badly.
Just learn and regroup and please beat the Wizards.
we can only hope.  after watching this team's D the past 2 games, I dread what Wall could do to this D.
Wall wont be playin cuz of a knee injury
I don't think that would stop him from running roughshod over this team in its current state.  ::)
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on November 02, 2012, 10:27:13 PM
Wow - wasn't expecting THIS, lol...I just got home.

Oh Well.

At least Lakers are 0-2, too - and Nash certainly looks vulnerable, to say the least.

Well, here's a clip of one of my favorite artists:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRDBqzGoWKs
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: MBunge on November 02, 2012, 10:37:49 PM
What is Doc seeing in practice?  'Cause he's given no indication of any worries about this team, yet these have been two pitiful performances with the defense looking "tanking for the lottery" bad.

Mike
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: mctyson on November 02, 2012, 10:38:19 PM
I didn't watch the game, was out eating fine dining, seems like that was a good choice.  I would only mention this team sucked last year during the first half too, most of these games are meaningless, think of them as extended preseason. 

We just don't want anyone to get hurt.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Kiorrik on November 02, 2012, 10:43:36 PM
What is Doc seeing in practice?  'Cause he's given no indication of any worries about this team, yet these have been two pitiful performances with the defense looking "tanking for the lottery" bad.

Mike
The Heat game at least looked decent on offence. Tonight... well.. yeh.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: jdz101 on November 02, 2012, 10:50:04 PM
For all the people spelling doom the best advice i can give is just take each game on its merits. I hated how they played tonight aswell.

That said, every game isn't always going to be some profound insight on how this team is going to play for the rest of the year and the playoffs.

A lot of people on this board were made to look foolish last year after their early performance.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: blink on November 02, 2012, 10:58:43 PM
The disappointing thing isn't the result, it was the effort.  It was a worse effort than against the heat.  They will get better.  Doc will ride them hard until they play hard consistently.  I just didn't think anyone would have to get on us to play hard...oh well.  It is really early.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 02, 2012, 10:59:18 PM
Only caught bits and pieces of the Miami game (intermittent power outages here in NYC), but watched all of this one.

They are sloppy. Not a cohesive unit on either end. They will get there. May take more time than some thought (especially me), but the talent is there.

JET hasn't taken off yet. Green's shot isn't falling, and once that does his confidence will grow to other parts of his game. Bass looked lost on defense tonight when playing C, don't want him there anymore.

I think this is a big adjustment for not only the role players, but also for the Big Three and more importantly Doc.

Remember, only 4 guys playing right now were on the playoff roster. That's a lot of players to integrate, especially on the defensive end.

Doc went to the bench too much tonight. Didn't like seeing 5 reserves in at once.

Would love to be 2-0 right now, but with the effort put forth thus far, we don't deserve to be.

Disappointed? Yeah. Worried? No.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on November 02, 2012, 11:22:08 PM
What disappointed me is they allowed Brandon Jennings to dish 13 assists. The defense, effort in particular needs to improve. A score first guard got 13 assists on that defense, ouch.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: rmitchell222003 on November 02, 2012, 11:56:00 PM
say what u will about ray being gone... i bet we are really missing his floor spacing right now
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: PaulPierce34G on November 03, 2012, 01:23:46 AM
2 games deep, 80 left.  This was clearly a game they should have won.  Milwaukee isn't on Boston's level, but things happen.  The Miami loss is one you can accept.  Miami is very good, you can live with it.

Just an all around sloppy game for the C's.  I'm just hanging out at a Chinese restaurant having some beers, watching the game and there were moments I thought they would mount a comeback, but it wasn't meant to be. 

Still no need to panic.  Once they get that first win, it will help their confidence a lot.  You've got new guys trying to find their place.  Although many of the new guys are veterans...still, when you walk into a new system, you still feel jitters.  That first win will be the ice breaker and get things flowing...let's just hope it comes sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: LEHGOCELTICS on November 03, 2012, 01:31:46 AM
I could smell a blow out at home

blow out indeed, just not the right kind
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: crimson_stallion on November 03, 2012, 03:22:50 AM
Miami are the defending champions.  Miami have three All-Stars on their team, and two of those are top 10 NBA players.  They are one of the best defensive teams in the NBA.  They beat us in 7 games last season, fair and square, behind Lebron who put the team on his shoulders. 

I can handle getting beaten by Miami in the first game of the season - I can even handle it being a blowout. What I can't handle is being blown out by the darn Bucks..that's just embarassing.

Many people are complaining about the makeup of our roster, but I don't have a problem with the players on our roster - I have a problem with the way we're using them.

I'm happy Darko on this team - I think he could be major contributer for us if Doc actully played the guy!

Sullinger also is a nice addition, but he's gotta be used at the PF spot where he is most effective. At that position he isn't too undersized, and he can use his post-up game, his rebounding and his muscle to his advantage.  He has no such advantage against NBA centers, who will likely destroy him on offense.

Bass should NEVER play center.  Hell, I would even rather see Sullinger at Center then Bass.  Bass is undersized at the PF spot as it is and he does not have the size to defend Centers. His athleticism and muscle are more useful at the PF spot.  The guy is listed at 6'8" which is way too short for a center, even before you consider the fact that he is closer to 6'7". 

The fact of the matter is plain and simple - I don't care what the matchup is, we need somebody in the middle to defend the paint AT ALL TIMES.  If KG sits then it's got to be Darko, or Collins, or even Melo if we get that desperate.  We need somebody on the court who can either:

1. Block shots

or

2. Put opposing players on their back

I don't mind which method is used, as long as opposing teams learn the hard way that there are no easy baskets against us going to the basket.

While KG is at center, it doesn't really matter who we have at PF - Wilcox, Bass and Sully are all fine because we already have a defensive anchor in the paint. 

If Darko / Collins is our center, then we should stick to Bass, Wilcox or Green at the PF spot so we maintain some mobility in the frontcourt. 

Absolute worst case scenario (if Doc absolutely MUST go small) it should be Wilcox at center.  He is the only 'PF' we have who is somewhat capable of playing center.  He still doesn't do much to protect the rim though, so this should still only be used under very special circumstances (say, to match up against Bosh/Miami).

This small ball thing is rediculous - why are we trying to match up with other teams?  Lottery teams try to 'match' other teams. Mediocre teams try to 'match up' with other teams.  Borderline playoff teams try to 'match up' with other teams. 

We are the Boston Celtics - we are an elite team.  We are a championship contender.  Championship condenders do not 'match up' with opposing teams.  Championship contenders play to THEIR own game, at THEIR own pace and dominate using THEIR  own strengths.  Championship contenders force OPPOSING teams to 'match up' with THEM...just like Miami did to us in the season opener.

Also Doc needs to stop drilling this idea in everyones head that our entire season focus is Miami.  Forget Miami, I don't care about Miami.  The only team we should be focussing on right now is the Boston Celtics.  We need to learn to play to our strengths long before we worry about who we're playing against. 

We need our most effective lineup out there regardless of who we play against. 

I honestly wonder if this whole Miami drilling is messing with everyone's heads.  Against Miami the team looked too emotionally invested, and today they look like they have no emotional investment at all.  Why did Terry go nuts and take over the game in the last 2 minutes?  Why didn't he play like that when we weren't down by 20???

I understand that Doc likes to experiment with all the versatility he has.  That experiment led us to a horrible preseason record and consecutive blowouts in our first two games to start the season.  How about you ditch the experiment and just put our best lineup's out on the court?

Now I know it may not run everyone the right way, but what we NEED out there in our starting lineup is:

PG: R Rondo
SG: C Lee
SF: P Pierce
PF: J Sullinger
C: K Garnett

This lineup is strong in every area of the game. 

Rondo is the best playmaker in the league and a great scorer off penetration. 

Lee is a solid perimeter defender and a good shooter. 

Pierce is a dominate force who can score and contribute in
multiple ways. 

Sullinger is a big who will create extra possessions with his offensive rebounding, and get us high percentage shots with his low post game. 

Garnett is a center who is mobile enough to defend the P&R, who grabs defensive boards, and who can score inside or out.  If Sullinger slips on a defensive play KG can pick up his man, and Sully is less likely to get stuck defending a quicker guy because Rondo, Lee and Pierce are all good perimeter defenders.

Then on our second unit we need:

PG: L Barbosa
SG: J Terry
SF: J Green
PF: B Bass
C: D Milicic

Barbosa is not a proper PG but you know what - neither is Terry.  Regardless which of those two guys we have out there we won't have many fancy plays running, all they need to do is bring the ball up. For that reason we need to make the most effective and consistent scorer our SG, and he other guys brings up the ball.  Terry is a better scorer off the ball, while Barbosa is probably more effective with the ball (better at taking it to the hole, etc).  For this reason we need Barbosa at the point and Terry at the SG position. 

Green needs to play SF as a backup to Pierce, where he's more comfortable.  I don't mind him playing 4 or 5 minutes at the PF spot, but most of his minutes should be at SF. It's not because he's not capable at the 4, it's just becuase we have 3 other guys who are natural PF's and can probably man the position better.

Bass is a consistent, dead-eye shooter from midrange and we need that scoring punch in the front court of our second lineup to help stretch the floor.  He's quick enough to defend the P&R and he's stong enough to defender 'power' players.  He could probably even rebound at a decent rate against opposing second tier PF's.

Darko needs to back up KG at center so we have someone to block shots, indimidate, grab defensive rebounds, and commit hard fouls on guys who even think about scoring inside. 

Also before anyone complains NO I'm not suggesting that Sullinger is better than Bass.  Honestly I think they are similar calibre players who both bring different skill sets.  I think Bass gives a slightly higher contribution right now in fact.  I've only laid out the lineup this way because this is the best fit for out team.  Just like we needed Ray on the bench last year, we need Bass' consistent scoring and energy off the bench this year.

Now for the remaining guys

Collins will get his moments against elite low post bigs (Howard, Bynum, etc) and when Darko gets into foul trouble. 

Wilcox will get his minutes when we need an athletic scorer/rebounder in the frontcourt to deal with teams that have more athletic 5's. 

Joseph and Melo will get garbage-time minutes along with backup minutes if Green or Collins/Darko/Wilcox get hurt.

THAT needs to be how our rotation works no matter who we are playing against.
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Mr Green on November 03, 2012, 05:36:13 AM
... I like K Joseph.  Good things seem to happen when he is on the court ...

Word on the street is he's our best 'pick and roll' player during practice:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ0ymw_EIYY

Poor guy...
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: moiso on November 03, 2012, 06:59:16 AM
... I like K Joseph.  Good things seem to happen when he is on the court ...

Word on the street is he's our best 'pick and roll' player during practice:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ0ymw_EIYY

Poor guy...
ooh disgusting!
Title: Re: Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) 11/2
Post by: Drucci on November 03, 2012, 09:19:16 AM
Horrible, horrible game, from the kind that doesn't give you any desire to watch the next one.

Nothing to learn from this one except that our defense is pathetic, the worst we had in 5 years and worthy of some rookies biting on every pumpfake... the paint is basically an open bar for every opposing player whether he can dribble or not. Every possession ended on a turnover or a terrible shot, so it was even harder to watch the offensive end.

Also, Terry is awful on both ends and Green camps around the 3 point line where he just shoots bricks after bricks.

I do think that this team needs time but other teams with a lot of new players play very well from the start... like the Bucks did. We deserved to get our butts kicked, now I only hope the team will wake up.