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Title: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: FLCeltsFan on October 19, 2012, 10:08:42 PM

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Boston Celtics (2-4) at New York Knicks (2-1)
Preseason Game #7 – Road Game #5
Saturday, October 20, 2012
7:30pm ET
TV: CSNNE, MSG, NBA-LP (DTV 752/753)
Times Union Center, Albany, New York
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Probable Starters
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PG: Rajon Rondo
SG:  Courtney Lee
SF:  Jeff Green
PF:  Jared Sullinger
C:   Kevin Garnett

Reserves
Brandon Bass
Leandro Barbosa
Jason Collins
Micah Downs
Kris Joseph
Rob Kurz
Jason Terry
Fab Melo
Darko Milicic


Injuries
Chris Wilcox (back) day to day
Darko Milicic (wrist) questionable
Avery Bradley (shoulders) out 
Paul Pierce  (ankle, knee) out   
Brandon Bass (knee)  out 

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Probable Starters
PG(http://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Felton_Raymond_por_1112.jpg) SG(http://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Thompson_Mychal_cle.jpg) SF(http://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Anthony_Carmelo_nyk_11.jpg) PF(http://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Thomas_Kurt_por_1112.jpg) C(http://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Chandler_Tyson_nyk_12.jpg)
PG:  Raymond Felton
SG:  Mychel Thompson
SF:  Carmelo Anthony
PF:  Kurt Thomas
C:   Tyson Chandler

Reserves
JR Smith
Steve Novak
Jason Kidd
Henry Simms
John Shurna
Pablo Prigioni
Chris Copeland
Oscar Bellfield


Injuries
Ronnie Brewer (MCL)  out
Marcus  Camby (calf)  out
Iman Shumpert  (ACL)  out
Chris Smith (patella)  out
Amare Stoudamire (knee) questionable
Rasheed Wallace (out of shape)  questionable

Game Notes
This is the second preseason game between these two division rivals.  The first game was a spirited affair with the Knicks coming out on top 98-95 in OT.   The Knicks are playing in the second of back to back games and although most of their regular starters are listed they may sit them. 

In the Knicks' 107-88 loss to the Raptors, Amare played 26 minutes and Melo played 33 minutes.   They may or may not play in this one.  Amare has pretty much said that he doesn't play to play.   Ordinarily,  the starters would sit in back to back games but this is New York and this is the Celtics, and after a sub-par effort with porous defense, their coach may want to try to work through some issues.  But, who knows. 

The game notes have the regular starters listed, but they haven't been right yet, so why start now?   Doc has said that he will sit Paul Pierce and Brandon Bass tonight, both of whom sustained minor injuries in the last game,   I've put Jeff Green into the starting lineup for Pierce, but I have a funny feeling that Doc may start Kris Jospeh to keep some continuity with his core bench group. 

KG and possibly Rondo may sit as well, but if they play it will be in limited minutes.  Darko would play if it was a regular season but expect Doc to sit him one more game to be cautious with his injured wrist.    We should get to see a lot of the young guys. 

Keys to the Game
No more injuries.   Get the preseason finished and get ready for the Heat on opening night. 

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: j804 on October 19, 2012, 10:37:22 PM

TP FL

I think this game might be mainly reserves, the Knicks just played today and the starters logged heavy minutes. I think Doc said he's going to keep some of our guys out as well. I hope our bench can continue to gel go Celtics!!!

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: FLCeltsFan on October 20, 2012, 01:18:34 PM

Quote from: j804 on October 19, 2012, 10:37:22 PM

TP FL

I think this game might be mainly reserves, the Knicks just played today and the starters logged heavy minutes. I think Doc said he's going to keep some of our guys out as well. I hope our bench can continue to gel go Celtics!!!

I think you are right.  Doc has said that both Pierce and Bass will sit.  Amare said he doesn't plan to play.  Beyond that, I'm not sure who's going to play and who's not.  I updated the game thread to show what I've learned so far.

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: igorsure on October 20, 2012, 01:28:08 PM

What's happen with Pierce&Bass? Any updates?

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: j804 on October 20, 2012, 01:42:26 PM

Quote from: FLCeltsFan on October 20, 2012, 01:18:34 PM

Quote from: j804 on October 19, 2012, 10:37:22 PM

TP FL

I think this game might be mainly reserves, the Knicks just played today and the starters logged heavy minutes. I think Doc said he's going to keep some of our guys out as well. I hope our bench can continue to gel go Celtics!!!

I think you are right.  Doc has said that both Pierce and Bass will sit.  Amare said he doesn't plan to play.  Beyond that, I'm not sure who's going to play and who's not.  I updated the game thread to show what I've learned so far.

It's actually Pierce and KG out as well I saw it on Bulpetts twitter feed, no injuries just rest. I think Darko is still out too.

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: FLCeltsFan on October 20, 2012, 01:47:01 PM

I just saw that.  Pierce, KG, Bass, and Darko all out tonight.

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on October 20, 2012, 02:14:55 PM

Collins or Melo to start?

Or maybe Green at the 4, and have JT at the 2? Or Green at the 4 and Joseph and the 3?

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: blastoidesroidsnoids on October 20, 2012, 02:27:39 PM

simulation pierce down green in- activated

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: j804 on October 20, 2012, 02:34:37 PM

Quote from: BudweiserCeltic on October 20, 2012, 02:14:55 PM

Collins or Melo to start?

Or maybe Green at the 4, and have JT at the 2? Or Green at the 4 and Joseph and the 3?

maybe Doc finally does what you know he wants to try and puts Sully at the 5

overall well get a glimpse of what the new era will look like ;D

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: KGs Knee on October 20, 2012, 03:21:42 PM

Quote from: j804 on October 20, 2012, 02:34:37 PM

Quote from: BudweiserCeltic on October 20, 2012, 02:14:55 PM

Collins or Melo to start?

Or maybe Green at the 4, and have JT at the 2? Or Green at the 4 and Joseph and the 3?

maybe Doc finally does what you know he wants to try and puts Sully at the 5

overall well get a glimpse of what the new era will look like ;D

I suspect the interior defense will be rather weak tonight.

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: Eddie20 on October 20, 2012, 03:24:13 PM

Quote from: j804 on October 20, 2012, 02:34:37 PM

Quote from: BudweiserCeltic on October 20, 2012, 02:14:55 PM

Collins or Melo to start?

Or maybe Green at the 4, and have JT at the 2? Or Green at the 4 and Joseph and the 3?

maybe Doc finally does what you know he wants to try and puts Sully at the 5

overall well get a glimpse of what the new era will look like ;D

My guess:

Sullinger
Green
Collins
Rondo
Lee

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 20, 2012, 03:28:09 PM

Glade he an't playin Darko , he needs to be healthy for the HEAT game.

Hope Fab and KJ get alot of minutes. 

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: Jon on October 20, 2012, 03:33:54 PM

I'd like to see them give it to Sullinger in the post and see what he can do against the length of the Knicks. 

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: j804 on October 20, 2012, 05:29:02 PM

How about running them out of the gym with...

Bass
Green
Courtney
Barbosa
Rondo

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: lon3lytoaster on October 20, 2012, 06:57:36 PM

No Barbosa tonight. That's a little disappointing but not totally unexpected.

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: ACF on October 20, 2012, 07:04:01 PM

TP. Go Celts!

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: crimson_stallion on October 20, 2012, 07:07:59 PM

LOL at Rasheed Wallace still listed as:

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Rasheed Wallace (out of shape)  questionable

 ;D

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 20, 2012, 07:12:43 PM

Quote from: crimson_stallion on October 20, 2012, 07:07:59 PM

LOL at Rasheed Wallace still listed as:

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Rasheed Wallace (out of shape)  questionable

 ;D

Sheed is old enough to be Sully's  grandfather

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: LEHGOCELTICS on October 20, 2012, 07:45:32 PM

Is Barbosa playing today?

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: Neurotic Guy on October 20, 2012, 07:52:43 PM

I like Jeff Green but I hate the James Worthy comparison.  Not that he doesn't remind (a little) of a poor man's Worthy, but I hate that this is in his head.  He has to be himself -- whatever that is and wherever it brings him.  Hope he doesn't try to be like James.

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: syfy9 on October 20, 2012, 07:57:21 PM

Quote from: Neurotic Guy on October 20, 2012, 07:52:43 PM

I like Jeff Green but I hate the James Worthy comparison.  Not that he doesn't remind (a little) of a poor man's Worthy, but I hate that this is in his head.  He has to be himself -- whatever that is and wherever it brings him.  Hope he doesn't try to be like James.

Being like James is by no means a bad thing. 

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on October 20, 2012, 07:58:01 PM

What an awesome shot by Melo lol

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: rmitchell222003 on October 20, 2012, 08:00:03 PM

I was wondering what melo was going to do. omg. lets not do that play anymore haha

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: rondohondo on October 20, 2012, 08:00:06 PM

Wow Melo looks horrible on both ends, really wishing we took Perry Jones or Festus Ezeli. He doesn't seem to have a very high BBIQ

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on October 20, 2012, 08:00:22 PM

smh @ Fab Melo startin on his airball quota early

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: hpantazo on October 20, 2012, 08:04:08 PM

Quote from: rondohondo on October 20, 2012, 08:00:06 PM

Wow Melo looks horrible on both ends, really wishing we to Perry Jones or Festus Ezeli. He doesn't seem to have a very high BBIQ

I still can't believe we passed on Perry Jones. Getting both Jones and Sullinger would have been the best draft ever. With that said, we need to give Melo time, he hasn't been playing basketball for very long.

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: rmitchell222003 on October 20, 2012, 08:07:08 PM

i rather have scare from gonzaga. he looks solid for lakers

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: rmitchell222003 on October 20, 2012, 08:17:37 PM

aww look at barbosa at the end of the bench!!! he looks lonely... go make some new friends

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: European NBA fan on October 20, 2012, 08:19:13 PM

Quote from: syfy9 on October 20, 2012, 07:57:21 PM

Quote from: Neurotic Guy on October 20, 2012, 07:52:43 PM

I like Jeff Green but I hate the James Worthy comparison.  Not that he doesn't remind (a little) of a poor man's Worthy, but I hate that this is in his head.  He has to be himself -- whatever that is and wherever it brings him.  Hope he doesn't try to be like James.

Being like James is by no means a bad thing.

True, but for a guy who should be coming into his own for us this season, it could be a distraction. Because that is a pretty high ceiling.

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: jimmehx on October 20, 2012, 08:32:00 PM

Enough. Preseason.

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on October 20, 2012, 08:33:41 PM

Rondo is just downright ball hogging now.

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: Rondo2287 on October 20, 2012, 08:37:40 PM

Quote from: jimmehx on October 20, 2012, 08:32:00 PM

Enough. Preseason.

Consign, Tp

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: rondohondo on October 20, 2012, 08:39:45 PM

wow copeland with 25pts in the first half....

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: European NBA fan on October 20, 2012, 08:41:36 PM

Noone should be surprised by how raw Melo looks. His talent is physical, and he is still learning the game. It might take two years, before he shows us anything on offense. For now, I will be happy, if he learns to get to the right spots on defense this season.

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: rondohondo on October 20, 2012, 08:57:53 PM

What a block by Green!!!!!

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: Rondo2287 on October 20, 2012, 08:58:44 PM

Quote from: rondohondo on October 20, 2012, 08:57:53 PM

What a block by Green!!!!!

Beast mode!

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: Eja117 on October 20, 2012, 09:02:56 PM

Wow. if someone fouled me the way Green fouled Thompson I'd probably break their neck

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on October 20, 2012, 09:11:41 PM

sorry couldnt watch da game wit my favorite college football team playin heard Terry nd Green look good yall got any observations?

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on October 20, 2012, 09:12:38 PM

Man, Copeland has been insane today.

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: AB_Celtic on October 20, 2012, 09:19:15 PM

Sully is so smart for a rook

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: Kiorrik on October 20, 2012, 09:27:42 PM

Not watching, but saw the box-score: RR Trip-Dub watch on yet? Or does the pre-season not count?

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: missyP on October 20, 2012, 09:31:30 PM

i know we are supposed to keep it PC and all that..but [dang], i could do Kris Joseph 3 times a day #smoothDude

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: AB_Celtic on October 20, 2012, 09:32:29 PM

I really can't get over how many offensive threats we have.

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: Big Rondo on October 20, 2012, 09:38:18 PM

Offensive explosion from our bench. Beauty  ;)

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: albas89 on October 20, 2012, 09:40:55 PM

I know this is a meaningless preseason game but, man, we seem to have a really strong roster... the more I see it, the more I like it! This should be a fun season... ;D

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: TheBig5 on October 20, 2012, 09:45:54 PM

So proud of this team, can't wait until the season starts.

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: rmitchell222003 on October 20, 2012, 09:48:02 PM

look at coach rondo

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: LEHGOCELTICS on October 20, 2012, 09:49:14 PM

Wow our bench is so deep that our bench looks like a typical starting 5. Nice showing by Kris Joseph today. Always loved the guy.

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: crimson_stallion on October 20, 2012, 10:14:30 PM

Really loving Terry and Green tonight - both being super aggressive, which is exactly what I was hoping we would get from those guys.

Green especially has impressed me - he's really attacking on offense and hustling on defense.  In fact he's the only guy doing a decent job on Copeland defensively.

Also liking Joseph and Downs, both looking nice out there. 

Melo is definately raw, but he'll get there.

If Terry, Lee and Green continue to play like this then (once Bradley comes back) we are going to have a frightening bench...

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: crimson_stallion on October 20, 2012, 10:16:48 PM

P.s.

Courtney Lee's second straight game with 4 steals

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: CelticSooner on October 20, 2012, 10:40:07 PM

I didn't watch the game. How did they look tonight?

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: bfrombleacher on October 20, 2012, 10:43:57 PM

Quote from: CelticSooner on October 20, 2012, 10:40:07 PM

I didn't watch the game. How did they look tonight?

3rd stringers playing. Started off sloppy then cleaned it up.

Rondo is a much better scorer now. Kris Joseph has great potential. JG+Terry are amazing.

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: CelticSooner on October 20, 2012, 10:51:09 PM

So excited for this season.  ;D

Going to have to catch a replay.

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: bello_man09 on October 20, 2012, 11:19:34 PM

dude Copeland dropped 36 points lol..where we watching on the pick and roll :(

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: jimmehx on October 21, 2012, 12:35:45 AM

Some beautiful play today by the Cs. Really nice to watch. Green  ;D   ;D

That said, enough preseason. Let's see some MIA!

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: bfrombleacher on October 21, 2012, 12:47:35 AM

Nice tidbit from the ESPN comments section of the rapid reaction to today's game:

Quote

KG wasnt going to play today. But he suited up and went on the court during warmups. He was rebounding the ball for Joseph and then Downs. Thats a hall of famer, one of the greatest power forwards ever, doing the grunt work for rookies so they can get better. That was the Tommy Point for todays game!

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: Celtics18 on October 21, 2012, 12:48:00 AM

Just a comment on the Knicks.   They really seem to be thin on talent after Anthony, Stoudemire, and Chandler. 

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: Jon Niednagel on October 21, 2012, 09:13:06 AM

Quote from: Celtics18 on October 21, 2012, 12:48:00 AM

Just a comment on the Knicks.   They really seem to be thin on talent after Anthony, Stoudemire, and Chandler.

I tend to agree, but we really haven't seen a lot of their full roster yet, and if they come together they may be pretty formidable. Fulton should be an adequate pg. Shumpurt (sp?) will be coming back at some point and is a decent two-guard in the Tony Allen mold. Kidd, Smith,  Camby, Thomas,  Novak, and (if they keep him) #16 off the bench isn't too bad. 

That said, I'll take the Celtics' bench every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: cman88 on October 21, 2012, 11:45:41 AM

honestly, I dont think the Knicks look any different than the old knicks in the game melo played

they may have more depth on the bench with kidd, camby, rasheed...but theres no real telling how they are going to perform at their ages

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 21, 2012, 12:30:04 PM

Carmelo is Carmelo...great player & fun to watch him do his thing, long as he isn't on a Celtics team. Celtics is all about the TEAM concept first.   

Title: Re: Celtics (2-4) at Knicks (2-1) 10/20
Post by: CelticSooner on October 21, 2012, 02:02:43 PM

Amare' and Melo still don't fit. Knicks played better last season when Melo was playing PF.