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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: rondohondo on September 28, 2012, 04:32:58 PM
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gary washburn @GwashNBAGlobe
Kevin Garnett said he has not talked to Ray Allen since signing with #heat and has no plans to. "I don't have Ray's number anymore."#celtics
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Boom. He's dead to KG. Man after my own heart.
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KG is da man
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boy do I hate Ray Allen.
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I love KG.
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Judas is dead not just to us but also to the club.
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Love it. I can just picture KG hearing Ray was signing in Miami, whipping out his phone and yelling "HASTA LA VISTA, MOTHER%#$@^#$!!" while deleting it.
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I like how he answered something like how he can't fault Ray for doing what he wants for his family, but that personally he's not going there on his feelings. He basically thinks Ray is a b**** for going to them if you read between the lines.
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Got tickets for the boston vs miami game in jan.... Cant wait
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You can't help but love the fire KG has. He's old school and is a dying breed.
Ray is now the enemy, gonna be a bar fight.
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who the Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. is Ray Allen?
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When KG draws that kind of line in the sand, the ray allen apologists scatter like roaches.
Your either with us, or get the heck off the ride. He's made it clear there's no room for a grey area on this team. Just green teamers, period. Quite frankly im glad he clarified that.
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Can't wait for the first celtics heats game. They'll claim it's not important cause its only regular season but I bet they'll be going after each other
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I did the same thing, soon as Ray jumped ship I deleted his number.
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I like how he answered something like how he can't fault Ray for doing what he wants for his family, but that personally he's not going there on his feelings. He basically thinks Ray is a b**** for going to them if you read between the lines.
Did he say that? I really would like to know how this is better for Ray's family. He is making less money and he is farther away from them. Sounds to me like it's better for Ray's ego, but not necessarily his family. He may get another ring cheering on LeBron. He gets to play more golf down there. What does his family get?
If you think I am questioning his judgement on his personal decision, I AM. But heck this is just a message board and Ray probably isn't reading it anyway.
Fink.
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I like how he answered something like how he can't fault Ray for doing what he wants for his family, but that personally he's not going there on his feelings. He basically thinks Ray is a b**** for going to them if you read between the lines.
Did he say that? I really would like to know how this is better for Ray's family. He is making less money and he is farther away from them. Sounds to me like it's better for Ray's ego, but not necessarily his family. He may get another ring cheering on LeBron. He gets to play more golf down there. What does his family get?
If you think I am questioning his judgement on his personal decision, I AM. But heck this is just a message board and Ray probably isn't reading it anyway.
Fink.
Yep, took that as a bit of sarcasm myself.
"I don't have Ray's number anymore," said Kevin Garnett when asked if he has spoken to Allen since the offseason.
"I have no problem when someone makes a decision that's the best for him and his family,"
Sure you can't fault a guy for doing what's best for family. Those things include:
- taking more pay to play elsewhere,
- turning down better options to stay close to family,
- choosing to stay close to a paticular Dr. for your child's condition, etc etc.
Of course, those weren't any of Ray's reasons...
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naw....me neither.
check the phone book under da "A" as in...
Arnold ... Ray Benedict
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I love KG for life. Realest
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I wonder if Flo deleted his number too.
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KG also said, he can't share his TRUE feelings about Ray's decision, even though he wishes Ray no ill will. Said he's only worried about the new guys and specifically mentioned Jet and Lee and that is all he's worried about (the team and who is here NOW)during the Ray talk. He pretty much said to hell with Ray and NEXT question! LOL
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I am constantly amazed at the amount of ownership that fans feel they have over players and the amount of entitlement.
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I like how he answered something like how he can't fault Ray for doing what he wants for his family, but that personally he's not going there on his feelings. He basically thinks Ray is a b**** for going to them if you read between the lines.
Did he say that? I really would like to know how this is better for Ray's family. He is making less money and he is farther away from them. Sounds to me like it's better for Ray's ego, but not necessarily his family. He may get another ring cheering on LeBron. He gets to play more golf down there. What does his family get?
If you think I am questioning his judgement on his personal decision, I AM. But heck this is just a message board and Ray probably isn't reading it anyway.
Fink.
Yep, took that as a bit of sarcasm myself.
"I don't have Ray's number anymore," said Kevin Garnett when asked if he has spoken to Allen since the offseason.
"I have no problem when someone makes a decision that's the best for him and his family,"
Sure you can't fault a guy for doing what's best for family. Those things include:
- taking more pay to play elsewhere,
- turning down better options to stay close to family,
- choosing to stay close to a paticular Dr. for your child's condition, etc etc.
Of course, those weren't any of Ray's reasons...
TP for you. When Ray came here, I really thought he was one of the "good guys", a thinking man with integrity, a family guy. Ha!
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I am constantly amazed at the amount of ownership that fans feel they have over players and the amount of entitlement.
TP!!! I agree! I don't get it either. It's like players don't have a right to make their own decisions anymore without getting insulted and lambasted by fans. We DO NOT own players; they can do whatever they want!
But whatever, GO CELTICS!!!
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WOOO ready for da season to start word outta Heat camp is Wade's knee might not be ready for da season opener so Ray Ray might be startin da plot thickens out chea
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I am constantly amazed at the amount of ownership that fans feel they have over players and the amount of entitlement.
TP!!! I agree! I don't get it either. It's like players don't have a right to make their own decisions anymore without getting insulted and lambasted by fans. We DO NOT own players; they can do whatever they want!
But whatever, GO CELTICS!!!
Both of you are off. Fans don't feel that they have "ownership". But they do feel betrayed when a player leaves a situation for personal betterment. Fans spend their hard-earned money to watch these players play and cheer them on through thick and thin, on apparrell of these players, etc.
The working class understand the idea of leaving a job for better pay or better situation for their family. They don't understand leaving a job for less pay to work with different people and in front of different fans.
If I had a co-worker and he left for a lesser paying job in a situation no better for his family, but left solely because he liked his new co-workers better, I would feel insulted and betrayed too.
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I am constantly amazed at the amount of ownership that fans feel they have over players and the amount of entitlement.
TP!!! I agree! I don't get it either. It's like players don't have a right to make their own decisions anymore without getting insulted and lambasted by fans. We DO NOT own players; they can do whatever they want!
But whatever, GO CELTICS!!!
Both of you are off. Fans don't feel that they have "ownership". But they do feel betrayed when a player leaves a situation for personal betterment. Fans spend their hard-earned money to watch these players play and cheer them on through thick and thin, on apparrell of these players, etc.
The working class understand the idea of leaving a job for better pay or better situation for their family. They don't understand leaving a job for less pay to work with different people and in front of different fans.
If I had a co-worker and he left for a lesser paying job in a situation no better for his family, but left solely because he liked his new co-workers better, I would feel insulted and betrayed too.
Agreed. In fact, the nicest thing I can say about his Decision is that it's completely baffling. Somehow a notion has gotten into some NBA star players' heads of needing to win multiple championships in order to legitimize your legend. It seems a bit, shall we say, shallow? Ray was a great player and will have had a place in the HOF someday without this move.
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www.nba.com/video/channels/nba_tv/2012/09/28/20120928_media_day_allen.nba (http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nba_tv/2012/09/28/20120928_media_day_allen.nba)
Ray doesnt seem to enthusiastic about playing for the Heat in the video linked above. I almost feel bad for him. In a perfect world he, Paul, and KG would be on each others speed dial.
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I am constantly amazed at the amount of ownership that fans feel they have over players and the amount of entitlement.
im more amazed at posters who expect fans of a team to have no emotional investment in the players on that team...and to NOT be upset when a player who is a large part of the team basically turns his back on his teammates/fans and goes to their chief rival.
theres Radio shows, tv shows dedicated to peoples feelings on sports..yet somehow now its wrong to have opinions/emotions on players signing or leaving..heck, why are we even on a message board discussing the celtics?
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I am constantly amazed at the amount of ownership that fans feel they have over players and the amount of entitlement.
TP!!! I agree! I don't get it either. It's like players don't have a right to make their own decisions anymore without getting insulted and lambasted by fans. We DO NOT own players; they can do whatever they want!
But whatever, GO CELTICS!!!
Both of you are off. Fans don't feel that they have "ownership". But they do feel betrayed when a player leaves a situation for personal betterment. Fans spend their hard-earned money to watch these players play and cheer them on through thick and thin, on apparrell of these players, etc.
The working class understand the idea of leaving a job for better pay or better situation for their family. They don't understand leaving a job for less pay to work with different people and in front of different fans.
If I had a co-worker and he left for a lesser paying job in a situation no better for his family, but left solely because he liked his new co-workers better, I would feel insulted and betrayed too.
Awww....how is the ability to golf more not an improvement for his family?
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I am constantly amazed at the amount of ownership that fans feel they have over players and the amount of entitlement.
im more amazed at posters who expect fans of a team to have no emotional investment in the players on that team...and to NOT be upset when a player who is a large part of the team basically turns his back on his teammates/fans and goes to their chief rival.
theres Radio shows, tv shows dedicated to peoples feelings on sports..yet somehow now its wrong to have opinions/emotions on players signing or leaving..heck, why are we even on a message board discussing the celtics?
I agree with your sentiments. Sports are emotional. It's like some people think you should only relate to sports in a very dry and pragmatic way. "Unit X has been rented by Team Y feel free to crunch the numbers and percentages".
What's next? Is someone going to tell me not to get emotionally empathetic with Dooling's recent news? "You dont even know the man. SUrely other people have similar abusive events in the history"... :-\
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I am constantly amazed at the amount of ownership that fans feel they have over players and the amount of entitlement.
At the end of the day, we are the ones that are responsible for their ludicrous contracts. We invest a lot of time and money on the team/players we like.
Do we own them? Of course not. But we have the right to feel slighted when they turn their backs on us.
Ray left us to go to our biggest (in-Conference) rival. He didn't chase one final payday going to Milwaukee or somewhere else irrelevant. He basically said to Boston thanks for the memories guys but Miami is better.
If KG says all but "he's dead to me," you know his own friends feel betrayed.
Can't wait 'til the 30th.
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I am constantly amazed at the amount of ownership that fans feel they have over players and the amount of entitlement.
TP!!! I agree! I don't get it either. It's like players don't have a right to make their own decisions anymore without getting insulted and lambasted by fans. We DO NOT own players; they can do whatever they want!
But whatever, GO CELTICS!!!
Both of you are off. Fans don't feel that they have "ownership". But they do feel betrayed when a player leaves a situation for personal betterment. Fans spend their hard-earned money to watch these players play and cheer them on through thick and thin, on apparrell of these players, etc.
The working class understand the idea of leaving a job for better pay or better situation for their family. They don't understand leaving a job for less pay to work with different people and in front of different fans.
If I had a co-worker and he left for a lesser paying job in a situation no better for his family, but left solely because he liked his new co-workers better, I would feel insulted and betrayed too.
Yes I know what you're saying. People can feel upset (I was very upset but I just moved on and focused on the team, is that so hard to do?). We all felt betrayed but a number of fans take it too seriously. I know a couple of people who want Ray to get hurt while playing for the Heat. This applies not just with Ray's situation; we saw people burning Lebron's jerseys when he left and people thinking he's the worst person in the world because of one single decision.
I mean come on, we analyze and dissect their personalities when we don't even know them. They're doing a job, and we should only criticize their games, their talents and everything else related to basketball. People insult their character because they wanted to play for other teams? That's just off.
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I am constantly amazed at the amount of ownership that fans feel they have over players and the amount of entitlement.
im more amazed at posters who expect fans of a team to have no emotional investment in the players on that team...and to NOT be upset when a player who is a large part of the team basically turns his back on his teammates/fans and goes to their chief rival.
theres Radio shows, tv shows dedicated to peoples feelings on sports..yet somehow now its wrong to have opinions/emotions on players signing or leaving..heck, why are we even on a message board discussing the celtics?
To discuss players' games and basketball skills, the team's successes and failures. NOT to insult players' characters.
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I am constantly amazed at the amount of ownership that fans feel they have over players and the amount of entitlement.
im more amazed at posters who expect fans of a team to have no emotional investment in the players on that team...and to NOT be upset when a player who is a large part of the team basically turns his back on his teammates/fans and goes to their chief rival.
theres Radio shows, tv shows dedicated to peoples feelings on sports..yet somehow now its wrong to have opinions/emotions on players signing or leaving..heck, why are we even on a message board discussing the celtics?
To discuss players' games and basketball skills, the team's successes and failures. NOT to insult players' characters.
Character is part of it, as are emotions. Fans respond in different ways to player actions both intellectually and emotionally.
If fans should not make negative judgments about a player's character should they likewise refrain from praising a player who they think has positive or noble character?
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This applies not just with Ray's situation; we saw people burning Lebron's jerseys when he left and people thinking he's the worst person in the world because of one single decision.
People don't hate Lebron because he left Cleveland, they hate him becuase of HOW he left Cleveland.
He predetermined long before that he would join two other all stars and monopolise the league, he lied to Cleveland fans all along telling them he loved Cleveland and wanted to stay, and then when he finally joined the Heat he held a victory parade before the team had even played a game together - hence "rubbing it" to not only his previous team (Cleveland) but to basically the entire NBA.
What he did is the equivalent of you being the best employee at your work (a work that has always treated you well) and telling work you planned to draw up a new contact...only to go behind their back and quit last minute, run off to a competitor, and then publically brag about how badly you are going to beat your new employer is going to beat your previous one.
I think if you were the boss at the first company, you'd probably lose all respect for that guy...
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I am constantly amazed at the amount of ownership that fans feel they have over players and the amount of entitlement.
im more amazed at posters who expect fans of a team to have no emotional investment in the players on that team...and to NOT be upset when a player who is a large part of the team basically turns his back on his teammates/fans and goes to their chief rival.
theres Radio shows, tv shows dedicated to peoples feelings on sports..yet somehow now its wrong to have opinions/emotions on players signing or leaving..heck, why are we even on a message board discussing the celtics?
TP, cman.... if emotion werent a huge part of sports, it wouldn't be the multi-billion dollar industry that it is
sports is like many other forms of entertainment in that it has heroes and villains (like Judas Shuttlesworth)
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I am constantly amazed at the amount of ownership that fans feel they have over players and the amount of entitlement.
TP!!! I agree! I don't get it either. It's like players don't have a right to make their own decisions anymore without getting insulted and lambasted by fans. We DO NOT own players; they can do whatever they want!
But whatever, GO CELTICS!!!
Both of you are off. Fans don't feel that they have "ownership". But they do feel betrayed when a player leaves a situation for personal betterment. Fans spend their hard-earned money to watch these players play and cheer them on through thick and thin, on apparrell of these players, etc.
The working class understand the idea of leaving a job for better pay or better situation for their family. They don't understand leaving a job for less pay to work with different people and in front of different fans.
If I had a co-worker and he left for a lesser paying job in a situation no better for his family, but left solely because he liked his new co-workers better, I would feel insulted and betrayed too.
Yes I know what you're saying. People can feel upset (I was very upset but I just moved on and focused on the team, is that so hard to do?). We all felt betrayed but a number of fans take it too seriously. I know a couple of people who want Ray to get hurt while playing for the Heat. This applies not just with Ray's situation; we saw people burning Lebron's jerseys when he left and people thinking he's the worst person in the world because of one single decision.
I mean come on, we analyze and dissect their personalities when we don't even know them. They're doing a job, and we should only criticize their games, their talents and everything else related to basketball. People insult their character because they wanted to play for other teams? That's just off.
You Ray Allen's apologists should just give it up already. You guys aren't making any sense at all and it's just getting really pathetic everyday. What I find most ironic is that none of us, the ones p---ed off at Ray, is trying to change you guys' minds. Its you guys who's going out of your ways to insult the ones who's begrudging Ray for his coward act.
I hate to make the comparison but Ray's apologists sounds like abused wives, who no matter how much they're abused, will always go back to that abusive husband no matter what.
Us, we, the real humans with real emotions, we can read between the lines and call a spade a spade instead of trying to explain and trying to make sense of a senseless act committed by a backstabber like Ray.
Doc and KG are the only ones to come out with their real emotion bout the issue. Doc tried as much as possible to conveil it but you could tell he couldn't hold back. KG being KG, you know he's going to say his mind no matter what and that's what he did here. But I bet you that in the absence of a camera, what the guy was really saying is **** YOU, RAY.
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KG is the man!
To hell with "that guy" right KG? He's the enemy now, there should be no contact with him whatsoever except in the court.
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KG has no love for thee other side.
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KG has no love for thee other side.
Absolutely.
I would add that Ray and Tony Allen both left by choice to seek a 'different' situation.
Perk and Big Baby were traded. They had no choice ultimately.
This is the difference in feelings toward former teammates with KG and really a lot of fans.
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As a life-long Celtics fan, I have much more invested in the Celtics than Ray Allen. Ray got paid to pay for the Celtics. I've payed to watch them. He is here for 5yrs, I've got about 35 or so years invested in them.
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KG has no love for thee other side.
Absolutely.
I would add that Ray and Tony Allen both left by choice to seek a 'different' situation.
Perk and Big Baby were traded. They had no choice ultimately.
This is the difference in feelings toward former teammates with KG and really a lot of fans.
Even then though TA didn't go to a conference rival. Or sign for less money. I honestly didn't blame him for chasing the money in that situation. He's not a max guy he needs to get what he can while it's on the table. That's a move i bet in retrospect, Danny would like back. But Bradley has stepped up and in and been the second coming of the shut down wing defender this team seems to crave. However with more offensive potential though.
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KG is the man.
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@BrianWindhorst
Ray Allen on Kevin Garnett saying he purposely lost Ray's number: "“It’s a shame. I’m a good person to talk to on the phone.”
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@BrianWindhorst
Ray Allen on Kevin Garnett saying he purposely lost Ray's number: "“It’s a shame. I’m a good person to talk to on the phone.”
I Love it.
Let the competition begin!
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KG is a emotional guy. In other news the Sun is bright.
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@BrianWindhorst
Ray Allen on Kevin Garnett saying he purposely lost Ray's number: "“It’s a shame. I’m a good person to talk to on the phone.”
Ray's a chump, he puts on this facade of being a great person and true professional and then back stabs his friends and teammates he won a ring with to go be a ring chaser for less money in Miami .
His Ego clearly got in the way , the c's offered him more money and a no trade clause . Rondo, PP and KG were mentioned in trade rumors last year as much as Ray and he is the only one crying about it .
Can't wait to see Bradley and Lee locking him down and Terry taking him off the dribble.
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because the players play on the emotions of the fans and the public to garner the goodwill that they turn into multi-million dollar endorsement deals.
If you do not want fans to get emotional over players acts of betrayal then caution the players to not woo fans with false public personas.
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I am constantly amazed at the amount of ownership that fans feel they have over players and the amount of entitlement.
TP!!! I agree! I don't get it either. It's like players don't have a right to make their own decisions anymore without getting insulted and lambasted by fans. We DO NOT own players; they can do whatever they want!
But whatever, GO CELTICS!!!
Both of you are off. Fans don't feel that they have "ownership". But they do feel betrayed when a player leaves a situation for personal betterment. Fans spend their hard-earned money to watch these players play and cheer them on through thick and thin, on apparrell of these players, etc.
The working class understand the idea of leaving a job for better pay or better situation for their family. They don't understand leaving a job for less pay to work with different people and in front of different fans.
If I had a co-worker and he left for a lesser paying job in a situation no better for his family, but left solely because he liked his new co-workers better, I would feel insulted and betrayed too.
Yes I know what you're saying. People can feel upset (I was very upset but I just moved on and focused on the team, is that so hard to do?). We all felt betrayed but a number of fans take it too seriously. I know a couple of people who want Ray to get hurt while playing for the Heat. This applies not just with Ray's situation; we saw people burning Lebron's jerseys when he left and people thinking he's the worst person in the world because of one single decision.
I mean come on, we analyze and dissect their personalities when we don't even know them. They're doing a job, and we should only criticize their games, their talents and everything else related to basketball. People insult their character because they wanted to play for other teams? That's just off.
You Ray Allen's apologists should just give it up already. You guys aren't making any sense at all and it's just getting really pathetic everyday. What I find most ironic is that none of us, the ones p---ed off at Ray, is trying to change you guys' minds. Its you guys who's going out of your ways to insult the ones who's begrudging Ray for his coward act.
I hate to make the comparison but Ray's apologists sounds like abused wives, who no matter how much they're abused, will always go back to that abusive husband no matter what.
Us, we, the real humans with real emotions, we can read between the lines and call a spade a spade instead of trying to explain and trying to make sense of a senseless act committed by a backstabber like Ray.
Doc and KG are the only ones to come out with their real emotion bout the issue. Doc tried as much as possible to conveil it but you could tell he couldn't hold back. KG being KG, you know he's going to say his mind no matter what and that's what he did here. But I bet you that in the absence of a camera, what the guy was really saying is **** YOU, RAY.
See I'm not even a Ray Allen apologist, you just assumed I was. I just feel like in general, fans attacking players' characters doesn't make sense whether it be Ray Allen or not. Let's just agree to disagree.
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I am constantly amazed at the amount of ownership that fans feel they have over players and the amount of entitlement.
TP!!! I agree! I don't get it either. It's like players don't have a right to make their own decisions anymore without getting insulted and lambasted by fans. We DO NOT own players; they can do whatever they want!
But whatever, GO CELTICS!!!
Both of you are off. Fans don't feel that they have "ownership". But they do feel betrayed when a player leaves a situation for personal betterment. Fans spend their hard-earned money to watch these players play and cheer them on through thick and thin, on apparrell of these players, etc.
The working class understand the idea of leaving a job for better pay or better situation for their family. They don't understand leaving a job for less pay to work with different people and in front of different fans.
If I had a co-worker and he left for a lesser paying job in a situation no better for his family, but left solely because he liked his new co-workers better, I would feel insulted and betrayed too.
Yes I know what you're saying. People can feel upset (I was very upset but I just moved on and focused on the team, is that so hard to do?). We all felt betrayed but a number of fans take it too seriously. I know a couple of people who want Ray to get hurt while playing for the Heat. This applies not just with Ray's situation; we saw people burning Lebron's jerseys when he left and people thinking he's the worst person in the world because of one single decision.
I mean come on, we analyze and dissect their personalities when we don't even know them. They're doing a job, and we should only criticize their games, their talents and everything else related to basketball. People insult their character because they wanted to play for other teams? That's just off.
You Ray Allen's apologists should just give it up already. You guys aren't making any sense at all and it's just getting really pathetic everyday. What I find most ironic is that none of us, the ones p---ed off at Ray, is trying to change you guys' minds. Its you guys who's going out of your ways to insult the ones who's begrudging Ray for his coward act.
I hate to make the comparison but Ray's apologists sounds like abused wives, who no matter how much they're abused, will always go back to that abusive husband no matter what.
Us, we, the real humans with real emotions, we can read between the lines and call a spade a spade instead of trying to explain and trying to make sense of a senseless act committed by a backstabber like Ray.
Doc and KG are the only ones to come out with their real emotion bout the issue. Doc tried as much as possible to conveil it but you could tell he couldn't hold back. KG being KG, you know he's going to say his mind no matter what and that's what he did here. But I bet you that in the absence of a camera, what the guy was really saying is **** YOU, RAY.
And when did I insult people on this board? tsktsk
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Allen made his bed , blew the C's off to be with his new bff's heros WADE and Lebrick ...
Its up to KG and crew to show him HOW WRONG HE WAS !!!
BEAT THE HEAT !!
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Either you're with us or against us. Ray is the enemy.
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@BrianWindhorst
Ray Allen on Kevin Garnett saying he purposely lost Ray's number: "“It’s a shame. I’m a good person to talk to on the phone.”
I Love it.
Let the competition begin!
You know these guys will hate each other's guts this season, but I'm sure they're both respectable enough to leave it on the court. You can be playing your best friend and wanting him to die a horrible death at the same time.
Professional basketball at its finest.
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I would add that Ray and Tony Allen both left by choice to seek a 'different' situation.
I have no problems with Tony Allen. He left Boston for more money and an opportunity at a bigger role - he knew he was never going to get much opportunity to get in the sportlight playing behind Rondo and Allen.
Sure enough he went to Memphis (a team that was no threat to us at the time) and eventually became a starter and a major impact player, then really made a name for himself across the league.
Ray's situation is different - he went to our greatest current rival and did it for less money and potentially a lesser role.
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@BrianWindhorst
Ray Allen on Kevin Garnett saying he purposely lost Ray's number: "“It’s a shame. I’m a good person to talk to on the phone.”
I Love it.
Let the competition begin!
You know these guys will hate each other's guts this season, but I'm sure they're both respectable enough to leave it on the court. You can be playing your best friend and wanting him to die a horrible death at the same time.
Professional basketball at its finest.
'cept for the refs :\
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I think the funnier question is whether or not Donny Marshall still has Ray's number.
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It seems KG has taken Ray's flee to Miami to heart. And is angry at the fact that Ray left the Celtics
Honestly I love this. KG now knows who the enemy is for the Celtics to destroy the Heat. He is not known for being politically correct, and basically telling Ray "Bring it On"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gRY-keMalNs#!
"I don't have Ray's number anymore. I'm not trying to communicate. I'm just being honest with everybody in here. ... It's just what it is."
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I would add that Ray and Tony Allen both left by choice to seek a 'different' situation.
I have no problems with Tony Allen. He left Boston for more money and an opportunity at a bigger role - he knew he was never going to get much opportunity to get in the sportlight playing behind Rondo and Allen.
Sure enough he went to Memphis (a team that was no threat to us at the time) and eventually became a starter and a major impact player, then really made a name for himself across the league.
Ray's situation is different - he went to our greatest current rival and did it for less money and potentially a lesser role.
Did he? I thought DA was willing to match the offer? And he was going there under the assumption that he was backing up Mayo/Gay.
Regardless, I agree, with Ray it's completely different. He had a close relationship with the players, organization and city. He made a conscious decision to leave money on the table to walk away from us. I personally think it's good for both parties, but it still went down terribly wrong.
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funny how all this went down
and i really dont think it's ray
who created the drama
he just reacted to it
it seems ray has moved with his life
and some of the players didnt want to let him go
Ray and KG
star in......
~Love Lost In Boston~
Season Premire
(check local listing for channel and time)
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It seems KG has taken Ray's flee to Miami to heart. And is angry at the fact that Ray left the Celtics
Honestly I love this. KG now knows who the enemy is for the Celtics to destroy the Heat. He is not known for being politically correct, and basically telling Ray "Bring it On"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gRY-keMalNs#!
"I don't have Ray's number anymore. I'm not trying to communicate. I'm just being honest with everybody in here. ... It's just what it is."
TP for you for posting the video (again perhaps). When you see his comments in context, it is more understandable. KG said he is close to Ray and his family. My take is that he is saying Ray is the enemy now, during the regular season and playoffs, and therefore there is no reason to communicate with him. This fits perfectly with KG's general approach of total focus and intensity. He said he wishes Ray well.
This whole thread is making a bigger deal out of these comments than necessary.
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I would add that Ray and Tony Allen both left by choice to seek a 'different' situation.
I have no problems with Tony Allen. He left Boston for more money and an opportunity at a bigger role - he knew he was never going to get much opportunity to get in the sportlight playing behind Rondo and Allen.
Sure enough he went to Memphis (a team that was no threat to us at the time) and eventually became a starter and a major impact player, then really made a name for himself across the league.
Ray's situation is different - he went to our greatest current rival and did it for less money and potentially a lesser role.
Did he? I thought DA was willing to match the offer? And he was going there under the assumption that he was backing up Mayo/Gay.
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http://www.comcastsportsnet.com/landing?blockID=522506&tagID=9814
Ainge regrets not re-signing Allen
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By the time Boston stepped up and matched the Grizzlies' offer, Allen began to think more about the opportunity to start fresh in Memphis as opposed to coming back to the Celtics and remaining a backup to Ray Allen and Paul Pierce.
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One of the main pitches the Grizzlies made to woo Allen was an opportunity to establish a name for himself instead of remaining in the shadow of Allen and Pierce.
In Memphis, Tony Allen has become more of a leader both on and off the court and was instrumental in the eighth-seeded Grizzlies upsetting top-seeded San Antonio in the first round of the playoffs.