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Title: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: arambone on September 27, 2012, 11:42:25 PM
...who would you take?

Biggest roster questions seem to be 3rd string sf and pg. A tall athletic pf is also lacking behind kg.

John Henson looked really good in summer league. Better touch than advertised. He might be a poor mans kg to go with sully and melo for respectable frontcourt of the future.

Otherwise, barnes would be an upgrade over kris joseph, and eventually replace much of pierce's offense.

Jeremy lamb also has a bit of 3 versatility and shot extremely well in summer league. He'd be a different look than pierce and green, and he's taller and longer than chris lee.

I dont see any pgs that jump out.

Who would you add to this roster?

With tradeable assets, danny would be in position to trade for a rookie.
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: indeedproceed on September 27, 2012, 11:58:47 PM
Andre Drummond, no hesitation. Position and need isn't a factor, it's strictly potential, and Drummond. His body has been frequently compared to Dwight Howard's,
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: nostar on September 28, 2012, 12:17:57 AM
I have 4 picks in order from least to most wanted:

4.) Perry Jones III is a small forward with tons of upside. I worry about his motor and so did everyone else I guess as he fell to #30. He's physically gifted and needs a lot of molding.

3.) Royce White is a legitimate power forward but his quickness and rebounding prowess would make him a great SF in my opinion. His anxiety makes me not want to chance it but I think he's got all of the tools to be a Lebron type freight train player. Could be scary in a few years.

2.) Drummond is a beast and will be a top 5 center in the NBA. He was probably the most surprising drop to me(was listed as top 5 pick). I'd take him in a second.

1.) Harrison Barnes will be a star in the NBA. He is a worker and will only become better over the next 5-7 years. Probably a franchise level player on a bad team and an allstar on a good one. Think Rudy Gay.
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: bfrombleacher on September 28, 2012, 12:30:42 AM
I did wish back then that we bought a pick for Doron Lamb or something...but with Christmas, Terry and C-Lee I'm good now.
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: lightspeed5 on September 28, 2012, 01:19:52 AM
austin rivers

The Boston Celtics are making an 11th-hour push to put themselves in position to draft Duke star Austin Rivers, son of Celtics coach Doc Rivers, according to sources with knowledge of Boston's plans. But sources briefed on the matter describe the Celtics as pessimistic that they can acquire a draft pick high enough to land Rivers in Thursday night's draft.
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: mgent on September 28, 2012, 01:27:35 AM
Austin Rivers. 
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: arambone on September 28, 2012, 12:20:49 PM
1 john henson
2 harrison barnes
3 myers leonard
4 jeremy lamb
5 terrence jones
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: AshyLarry on September 28, 2012, 12:32:06 PM
Andre Drummond, no hesitation. Position and need isn't a factor, it's strictly potential, and Drummond. His body has been frequently compared to Dwight Howard's,

This. Exactly this. Dude will either be nothing, a BEAST of a role player, or a bonafide star. Worth the risk.
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: Chris on September 28, 2012, 12:40:30 PM
Andre Drummond, no hesitation. Position and need isn't a factor, it's strictly potential, and Drummond. His body has been frequently compared to Dwight Howard's,

I personally think Drummond is about 60% likely to majorly bust (and 80% likely to be mediocre at best, especially after he gets paid)...but that 20% chance that he could be an absolute superstar, would be really hard to pass up, when you get that late in the lottery.

Edit: I forgot Barnes went so low too.  He would be a close #2, who still has the star potential, but has a much higher floor.  I think he will be a very good NBA player at the very least.
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: CelticHooligan3 on September 28, 2012, 12:53:32 PM
Damian Lillard?
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: Chris on September 28, 2012, 12:59:42 PM
Damian Lillard?

I like Lillard, and think he is going to be a very good NBA player.  But I don't think he is particular special, and he presents a skillset that has become more and more easy to find in the NBA.

Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: arambone on September 28, 2012, 01:08:27 PM
i left drummond off because we already have melo. Otherwise itd be a no-brainer, but i figured somebody like leonard would better compliment what melo brings to the center position, as well as some pf versatility against la.

I do believe drummond is athletic enough to guard 4s, so it might be a mistake to leave him off my list, but leonard can guard 4s as well and brings much more grace and touch to the offense.

John henson looks like a star, perhaps not far off from anthony davis.

Terrence jones is like a stronger version of jeff green. Having two guys like that interchangeable at the forward spots would be ideal running mates with rondo.

Hou has tons of depth at 4, wouldnt be surprised if jones could be had mid-season.

Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: arambone on September 28, 2012, 01:08:39 PM
i left drummond off because we already have melo. Otherwise itd be a no-brainer, but i figured somebody like leonard would better compliment what melo brings to the center position, as well as some pf versatility against la.

I do believe drummond is athletic enough to guard 4s, so it might be a mistake to leave him off my list, but leonard can guard 4s as well and brings much more grace and touch to the offense.

John henson looks like a star, perhaps not far off from anthony davis.

Terrence jones is like a stronger version of jeff green. Having two guys like that interchangeable at the forward spots would be ideal running mates with rondo.

Hou has tons of depth at 4, wouldnt be surprised if jones could be had mid-season.

Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: Chris on September 28, 2012, 01:13:35 PM

John henson looks like a star, perhaps not far off from anthony davis.


He is VERY far off from Davis.  Davis is much more skilled, and has a much better body.  Davis needs to develop and add some bulk, Henson is just skinny, and doesn't have much room on his frame. 
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: celticinorlando on September 28, 2012, 01:54:04 PM
give me royce white....but the panic attacks would scare me away. Watched that video Grantland did on him and his draft night....I can see why every team but Houston passed
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: CelticHooligan3 on September 28, 2012, 02:11:35 PM
Damian Lillard?

I like Lillard, and think he is going to be a very good NBA player.  But I don't think he is particular special, and he presents a skillset that has become more and more easy to find in the NBA.


I agree Chris. I don't know too much about the kid in all honesty. I just know he had arguably the strongest summer league performance and most scouts pick him as the early favorite for rookie of the year. The point guard position seems to be the strongest in the NBA these days. But as we've seen with Irving most recently, maybe he can still surprise a few teams and put up some decent numbers.
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: Chris on September 28, 2012, 02:41:10 PM
Damian Lillard?

I like Lillard, and think he is going to be a very good NBA player.  But I don't think he is particular special, and he presents a skillset that has become more and more easy to find in the NBA.


I agree Chris. I don't know too much about the kid in all honesty. I just know he had arguably the strongest summer league performance and most scouts pick him as the early favorite for rookie of the year. The point guard position seems to be the strongest in the NBA these days. But as we've seen with Irving most recently, maybe he can still surprise a few teams and put up some decent numbers.

I think he most likely ends up similar to Darren Collison, perhaps a bit better. 

I think Irving was on a whole other level coming out of college, and had he not missed the majority of his freshman year, he wouldn't have surprised anyone.
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: CelticHooligan3 on September 28, 2012, 02:46:19 PM
Damian Lillard?

I like Lillard, and think he is going to be a very good NBA player.  But I don't think he is particular special, and he presents a skillset that has become more and more easy to find in the NBA.


I agree Chris. I don't know too much about the kid in all honesty. I just know he had arguably the strongest summer league performance and most scouts pick him as the early favorite for rookie of the year. The point guard position seems to be the strongest in the NBA these days. But as we've seen with Irving most recently, maybe he can still surprise a few teams and put up some decent numbers.

I think he most likely ends up similar to Darren Collison, perhaps a bit better. 

I think Irving was on a whole other level coming out of college, and had he not missed the majority of his freshman year, he wouldn't have surprised anyone.


Good points. And if Darren Collison is his ceiling that is a very sobering thought.

I now question where i should draft him in fantasy... :-[
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: arambone on September 28, 2012, 02:49:07 PM
Yeah, Lillard was picked top 6. Otherwise he would have been my #1. I think he has Westbrook/DRose potential. He's a better, more consistent shooter than either, out well beyond NBA 3.

Kyrie Irving and Lillard would have been a freaky combination, even if both are undersized for the 2.

Lillard should also have the green light and lots of minutes in Portland. Strong, great body control, great focus, super hard worker and humble.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTvHv5wFqUM

I could see situations where Lillard would get the nod over Rondo in the 4th, when the Celtics were behind and needed to score lots of points in a hurry.


Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: Chris on September 28, 2012, 04:08:11 PM
Damian Lillard?

I like Lillard, and think he is going to be a very good NBA player.  But I don't think he is particular special, and he presents a skillset that has become more and more easy to find in the NBA.


I agree Chris. I don't know too much about the kid in all honesty. I just know he had arguably the strongest summer league performance and most scouts pick him as the early favorite for rookie of the year. The point guard position seems to be the strongest in the NBA these days. But as we've seen with Irving most recently, maybe he can still surprise a few teams and put up some decent numbers.

I think he most likely ends up similar to Darren Collison, perhaps a bit better. 

I think Irving was on a whole other level coming out of college, and had he not missed the majority of his freshman year, he wouldn't have surprised anyone.


Good points. And if Darren Collison is his ceiling that is a very sobering thought.

I now question where i should draft him in fantasy... :-[

I don't think its his cieling, I think its where he will end up.  His cieling is probably Tony Parker.  Not many players reach their cieling though.
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on September 28, 2012, 04:17:29 PM
Meyers Leonard.

He will be special.
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: CFAN38 on November 09, 2012, 04:12:44 PM
Festus Ezeli,

I said it before the draft and after the draft. He should have been drafted instead of Melo. Nothing against Melo Ezeli is just a better player. Averaging 3.5pts 4.5rb 1 blk in 16min per game already. He will never be an allstar but he will have a long career as a solid center in the league.
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: Gomesfan on November 09, 2012, 04:21:54 PM
Drummond, white or Rivers!
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: Gomesfan on November 09, 2012, 04:27:29 PM
We got Sully.... Couldn't ask for more really, the kids pretty solid and has contributed rigjt away! Would also be nice to see Doc bring his kid along. As a parent it would be nice to see how they interact and bond!
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: xmuscularghandix on November 09, 2012, 04:32:29 PM
Easily Monroe
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: arambone on November 09, 2012, 05:59:55 PM
"Monroe"  Wrong year, isn't he 2nd or 3rd year?

I've got a major basketball crush on Terrence Jones of the Rockets, who hasn't got off the bench because they are deep at PF and competitive all game. He's like a much stronger, more aggressive, more raw version of Jeff Green.

Yeah, we got Sully, we got a miracle and not just a forum topic!

Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: Eja117 on November 09, 2012, 06:02:30 PM
Donatas, J Lamb, Singler, Joel Freeland, Mirza Telectovic, Kim English
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: nickagneta on November 09, 2012, 06:05:34 PM
Seriously, the best player chosen after the 6th pick this year might end up being Jared Sullinger
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: Eja117 on November 09, 2012, 06:10:28 PM
If the question means non top 6 picks this year then without hesitation I choose Jonas V. I thought it meant in terms of the top 6 guys
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: arambone on November 09, 2012, 06:29:58 PM
I excluded the top 6 because if I only excluded the top 5, Lillard would end the debate. He could be an all star even this year, though it'd be surprising.

Sully might make all rookie second team. I think Davis and Valanciunus whatever from Toronto are going to be tough to outplay, especially because Jared isn't featured in the offense much at all. I really wouldn't be surprised if he could be an average #1 scoring option, with plenty of good passes for assists and hockey assists.
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: Eddie20 on November 09, 2012, 07:07:45 PM
Wouldn't choose him over others mentioned before, but Zeller has looked pretty good. Most importantly he's a 7 footer who can run the floor, agile defending the pick and roll, and can spread the floor with his jumper. Do think his skill-set would fit in well.
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: fitzhickey on November 09, 2012, 08:38:27 PM
Jae crowder
Title: Re: If you could add one non-top 6 rookie to celtics roster...
Post by: arambone on November 10, 2012, 01:23:56 AM
Drummond with 22 points tonight in 20 minutes on 80% FG shooting. I'm going with Drummond.