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Beyond the Association => Global Basketball => Topic started by: Amonkey on August 15, 2012, 09:03:14 AM
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I saw this on yahoo yesterday and thought it was pretty interesting. Would like to have your take on this idea.
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201208/fiba-pushing-3-3-basketball-2016-olympics
Basketball's increasingly global reach was showcased once again at the London Olympic Games, with perhaps the deepest international field ever produced.
But FIBA, the International Basketball Federation, still sees room for growth.
In an attempt to expand basketball's worldwide popularity, FIBA is making a significant push for 3-on-3 basketball, which is commonly played at parks, playgrounds and schoolyards across the country.
The group, which already sponsors a 3-on-3 world tour and world championship, is trying to establish a world rankings system that could help the game become an Olympic sport. Perhaps as soon as the 2016 Rio Games.
"Like volleyball has beach volleyball, swimming has synchronized swimming, we want three-on-three to be part of it," FIBA Secretary-general Patrick Baumann told USA Today.
A global three-on-three structure could allow smaller countries to participate in the Olympics, and FIBA hopes that might lead to a trickle-down effect in countries that are not traditional basketball powerhouses.
The idea seems like a good one. I think if you do something without the pros, and/or make it into something more of a partner team like in beach volleyball rather than whoever is available comes play together would make things interesting. Maybe play say a game of 21, best out of 3 or something... I would say the idea does have potential.
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I like it.
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I really like it, too. I think it would give other countries a chance to compete. Not that I don't love USA, mind you, but the reason we win so much is because we have SO MANY good players. If it was, say, Pau Gasol, Navarro, and some other guy vs. CP3, Lebron, and DH, maybe it would have been closer.
Maybe not. ;D
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Could be a lot of fun.
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Great idea!
It gives an opportunity the door to have two games on the same court at any one time. That would be a novelty for events like semi finals, while guys are playing at one end they can see what the score is on the other side of the court.
I'd score it in sets like tennis. First team to 15 points wins the set (have the deuce rule so you need to win by two). First to win 3 sets out of 5 wins the 'match'. If a team doesn't score a single point then they have to run around the court with their pants down, just like playing on the street.
Something I would like to see trialled one day is using foul shots like a penalty shoot out in soccer. That would make for some intense television; miss and you lose. Not sure how it could be implemented though.
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not sold on it. next it'll be that crap version with the trampolines.
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not sold on it. next it'll be that crap version with the trampolines.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4rBtGxpbT4g/S7sNblUskLI/AAAAAAAAAAU/19LEuziKyvc/s1600/slamball5_1024.jpg)
how dare you talk trash about slamball!
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So would it still be 1 team per country?
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So, basically it would be streetball? No thanks.
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It would be pretty cool, but the only way I think it would work is if they restricted countries from having the same players on the full team and the 3x3. I mean if the goal is really to have the smaller countries participate then you can't let countries double up or only the good countries will be in the 3 on 3 tournament as well. Sure the US has so many good players it won't matter for them, but it will for a lot of countries, like say France, Brasil, etc. where there are 8-10 elite talents and then just a bunch of ok players. And a country like Great Britain will be a lot more competitive in 3x3 and thus might not even field a full size team.
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I personally would like to see as many events in basketball as their are in swimming.
So the 8 length of the quart dribbling relay
3 point contest
dunk contest
one on one championships
trick shot (where judges assign a degree of difficulty and then judge based on execution)
The all arounds competition
and rythmic basketball. Its a team competition where you play a game while simultaneously twirling a ribbon
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I personally would like to see as many events in basketball as their are in swimming.
So the 8 length of the quart dribbling relay
3 point contest
dunk contest
one on one championships
trick shot (where judges assign a degree of difficulty and then judge based on execution)
The all arounds competition
and rythmic basketball. Its a team competition where you play a game while simultaneously twirling a ribbon
Lol rythmic basketball :D
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I personally would like to see as many events in basketball as their are in swimming.
So the 8 length of the quart dribbling relay
3 point contest
dunk contest
one on one championships
trick shot (where judges assign a degree of difficulty and then judge based on execution)
The all arounds competition
and rythmic basketball. Its a team competition where you play a game while simultaneously twirling a ribbon
This is an excellent list, but I'd like to add Olympic Knockout and Synchronized Dunking.
Like the 3-on-3 idea though. It's my favorite kind of pickup ball and I think it'd be really interesting in the Olympic format.
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I personally would like to see as many events in basketball as their are in swimming.
So the 8 length of the quart dribbling relay
3 point contest
dunk contest
one on one championships
trick shot (where judges assign a degree of difficulty and then judge based on execution)
The all arounds competition
and rythmic basketball. Its a team competition where you play a game while simultaneously twirling a ribbon
This is an excellent list, but I'd like to add Olympic Knockout and Synchronized Dunking.
Two phenomenal additions. Also Mike Gorman has to announce every event.
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How about an And1 like Olympic event
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Great idea. There are some fundamental differences between 3 on 3 and 5 on 5. 3 on 3 doesn't require the ability to run the full length of the court, gives no time for resting, doesn't have fast breaks so there is almost always defense to contend with, and requires you to make stops (assuming to retain the ball after scoring). Would there be foul shooting? How can gratuitous fouling be limited without foul shots?
I'm also thinking that the winning score would have to be pretty high.
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Absolutely not. What next? 3 on 3 hockey? 2 on 2 baseball with ghost runners? Tee ball? Olympic 21? 1 on 1 football with optional automatic QB? WWE wrestling?
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I personally would like to see as many events in basketball as their are in swimming.
So the 8 length of the quart dribbling relay
3 point contest
dunk contest
one on one championships
trick shot (where judges assign a degree of difficulty and then judge based on execution)
The all arounds competition
and rythmic basketball. Its a team competition where you play a game while simultaneously twirling a ribbon
Actually having a dunk contest in the Olympics might be a great way to get the best dunkers to compete again.
We all know the NBA dunk contest is stale, and the best dunkers rarely compete, and when they do they're not facing any other great dunkers. A gold medal might motivate guys, and occurring only once every 4 years would keep it and the crop of players fresh. And players that complain about the grind of the Olympics can skip all that and just opt to compete in the dunk contest instead.
Let's see what they could have looked like:
The 2000 contest could have been largely the same as the NBA one, Carter, Francis, TMac, but add in Kobe too.
In 2004: maybe you still have Carter, TMac, and Kobe, add in LeBron, Shawn Marion, Amare, Dwyane Wade.
In 2008: Lebron and Dwight, with Gerald Green, Nate Robinson, Josh Smith, Dwyane Wade. Think about that, Gerald Green could get an Olympic gold medal.
In 2012: LeBron' says this will be his last year competing, but he's going up against Blake Griffin. Maybe Kevin Durant and James Harden too.
And you throw in some of the great international leapers and non-NBAers I'm sure are out there, this would be awesome.
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Rhythmic basketball could be cool.
If the Olympics have taught us anything, that people will watch any event that's on tv, no matter how boring or stupid, once every 4 years, as long as it's under the banner of the "Olympics."
Seriously though, I hate the idea of 3x3. I don't think it's really entertaining.
I used to be a big basketball junkie, would watch small local college games, would watch pro-ams, would watch high school games, etc. Never have I had any desire to go out and watch the finals of Hoop It Up.
Hey I actually just looked it up, the Hoop It Up World Championships are actually being held this weekend! (http://hoopitup.com/worldchampionships2012/) I'm sure people who support it as an Olympic sport will be attentively watching or searching for results.
Wow, there's already a USA team. (http://www.usabasketball.com/mens/3x3/12_national_team_announcement.html) ::)
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Howard, Durant, LeBron... Game Over.
Chance to compete my left nut.
An infant could coach that team to victory.
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Wow, there's already a USA team. (http://www.usabasketball.com/mens/3x3/12_national_team_announcement.html) ::)
Pssh, they're trotting Adesanya out there? What is this, amateur hour?? I hope they bring a personal masseuse for Tyree Hardge because he's gonna get awfully sore carrying that clown all tournament long.
I have no idea who any of these people are
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I'll put $300 on Larry, Kevin McHale, and Ainge over MJ, Pippen, and Rodman. I don't care if they're all 100 years old.
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not sold on it. next it'll be that crap version with the trampolines.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4rBtGxpbT4g/S7sNblUskLI/AAAAAAAAAAU/19LEuziKyvc/s1600/slamball5_1024.jpg)
how dare you talk trash about slamball!
even naming it after me doesn't make it less crappy ;)
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not sold on it. next it'll be that crap version with the trampolines.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4rBtGxpbT4g/S7sNblUskLI/AAAAAAAAAAU/19LEuziKyvc/s1600/slamball5_1024.jpg)
how dare you talk trash about slamball!
I know right? I couldn't believe that. I thought everybody loved slamball.
3 on 3 is my preference for streetball, but I'm not sure how it would translate to the pros. I think 4 on 4 would be a lot more interesting (better defense and less isolation).
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Olympic 1-on-1's would be epic fun. Have 3-player groupings per country: 1 guard, 1 wing, 1 center.
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I think this is a good idea. Swimming has team races and also have individual races. It'd be cool if they could have an individual skills challenge where you perform dribbling maneuvers within 24 second and are deducted based on losing control or carries. I don't know how entertaining it'd be for everyone else but i think it'd be entertaining.
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I love it. I think that half court, 3 on 3 basketball is a great game. Personally, I prefer it to full court, five on five (to play).
As someone who has spent a lot of my life playing 3 on 3 games on playgrounds and in gyms, I'm hurt that people are comparing it to a game with a trampoline. 3 on 3 Ball is a staple of the game of basketball. It's been played well and competitively on playgrounds across our country for a very long time. 3 on 3 is legit, as far as I'm concerned.
I think it would make a great Olympic sport.
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I say they eliminate dressage at the Olympics and replace it with Olympic H.O.R.S.E.
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Howard, Durant, LeBron... Game Over.
Chance to compete my left nut.
An infant could coach that team to victory.
Don't you think an immobile center with moves in the post could match up well against Howard in 3 on 3? Lebron would be hard to stay in front of, but so will many other players. With no fast breaks, Lebron's greatest offensive value is gone.
There could be some fundamental differences in effective styles in 3 on 3, similar to differences between 100 meter dash and 1600 meter runs. I could see a guy with a style like Brandon Roy kill people in 3 on 3 as he continually works out a good shot with help defense being so dangerous with only 3 players.
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Howard, Durant, LeBron... Game Over.
Chance to compete my left nut.
An infant could coach that team to victory.
Don't you think an immobile center with moves in the post could match up well against Howard in 3 on 3? Lebron would be hard to stay in front of, but so will many other players. With no fast breaks, Lebron's greatest offensive value is gone.
There could be some fundamental differences in effective styles in 3 on 3, similar to differences between 100 meter dash and 1600 meter runs. I could see a guy with a style like Brandon Roy kill people in 3 on 3 as he continually works out a good shot with help defense being so dangerous with only 3 players.
Ray Allen, Timmy D, Paul Pierce bench KG for the win.
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not sold on it. next it'll be that crap version with the trampolines.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4rBtGxpbT4g/S7sNblUskLI/AAAAAAAAAAU/19LEuziKyvc/s1600/slamball5_1024.jpg)
how dare you talk trash about slamball!
Come on now let's not diss slam ball!!
I love the three on three idea. It would certainly put an interesting spin on things. Honestly, I'm not sure I would watch it however.