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Around the League => The Draft => Topic started by: fairweatherfan on March 27, 2012, 09:52:49 AM
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Thought we could use a good catch-all thread for players as they declare for what's probably gonna be one of the deepest drafts in history.
Here are some of the guys who have officially put their names in:
Royce White (SF/PF) - Iowa St (will sign with agent)
Austin Rivers (SG) - Duke (agent)
Renardo Sidney (PF) - Mississippi St (agent)
Dion Waiters (SG) - Syracuse (agent)
Will Barton (SG) - Memphis (agent)
Moe Harkless (SF) - St. John's (agent)
Quincy Roberts (G) - Grambling (no agent)
Victor Rudd (SF) - South Florida (no agent)
Malik Wayns (PG) - Villanova (agent)
Fab Melo (C) - Syracuse (unknown)
Feel free to add anyone I've missed, I'm not as up on this stuff as a lot of posters.
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Players to watch: J'Covan Brown and Myck Kabongo(?), both from Texas.
http://www.burntorangenation.com/2012/3/22/2893535/jcovan-brown-to-declare-for-nba-draft-per-reports (http://www.burntorangenation.com/2012/3/22/2893535/jcovan-brown-to-declare-for-nba-draft-per-reports)
Following a Wednesday report that freshman point guard Myck Kabongo will depart the 40, news broke Wednesday night, reported first by the Daily Texan, that junior guard J'Covan Brown will declare for the NBA Draft. No official announcement from Brown or Kabongo yet, but it seems like merely a formality for the former.
UPDATE: Looks like Kabongo changed his mind yesterday and will stay at Texas. Brown still leaning towards the draft.
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Excellent website to follow this stuff - just found it:
http://www.nbadraft.net/2012-early-entry-list (http://www.nbadraft.net/2012-early-entry-list)
Last updated today.
Officially Entering:
Will Barton 6-6 171 SG/SF Memphis So. Second round to undrafted. (WIll hire agent)
JCovan Brown 6-2 180 PG/SG Texas Jr. Unlikely to be drafted. (Will hire an agent)
Jared Cunningham 6-4 200 SG Oregon St. Jr. Unlikely to be drafted. (Will not hire agent.)
Moe Harkless 6-8 205 SF St. John's Fr. Late lottery to late first. (Will hire agent)
Damian Lillard 6-2 190 PG Weber St. Jr. Late lottery to mid first. (Will hire agent)
Fab Melo 7-0 250 C Syracuse So. Late first to early second round. (Will hire a agent)
Reeves Nelson 6-7 238 SF/PF UCLA Jr. Unlikely to be drafted. Eligible after playing in Europe.
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Excellent website to follow this stuff - just found it:
http://www.nbadraft.net/2012-early-entry-list (http://www.nbadraft.net/2012-early-entry-list)
Last updated today.
Nice link - didn't know Melo'd declared, though it's no surprise. Haha, gotta love the "unlikely to be drafted - will hire an agent" bunch. What are those guys thinking, especially in this field? Did they blow off classes and now have to choose between D-League/Europe and academic ineligibility? Or is it just unrealistic optimism about their chances?
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Excellent website to follow this stuff - just found it:
http://www.nbadraft.net/2012-early-entry-list (http://www.nbadraft.net/2012-early-entry-list)
Last updated today.
Officially Entering:
Will Barton 6-6 171 SG/SF Memphis So. Second round to undrafted. (WIll hire agent)
JCovan Brown 6-2 180 PG/SG Texas Jr. Unlikely to be drafted. (Will hire an agent)
Jared Cunningham 6-4 200 SG Oregon St. Jr. Unlikely to be drafted. (Will not hire agent.)
Moe Harkless 6-8 205 SF St. John's Fr. Late lottery to late first. (Will hire agent)
Damian Lillard 6-2 190 PG Weber St. Jr. Late lottery to mid first. (Will hire agent)
Fab Melo 7-0 250 C Syracuse So. Late first to early second round. (Will hire a agent)
Reeves Nelson 6-7 238 SF/PF UCLA Jr. Unlikely to be drafted. Eligible after playing in Europe.
Seriously makes you wonder what many of these kids are thinking by declaring early when most are not going to get drafted as high as they hope to. every one of them could use another year of school to improve their games (and in the cases of the juniors that are unlikely to be drafted---get a degree to fall back on)
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Excellent website to follow this stuff - just found it:
http://www.nbadraft.net/2012-early-entry-list (http://www.nbadraft.net/2012-early-entry-list)
Last updated today.
Officially Entering:
Will Barton 6-6 171 SG/SF Memphis So. Second round to undrafted. (WIll hire agent)
JCovan Brown 6-2 180 PG/SG Texas Jr. Unlikely to be drafted. (Will hire an agent)
Jared Cunningham 6-4 200 SG Oregon St. Jr. Unlikely to be drafted. (Will not hire agent.)
Moe Harkless 6-8 205 SF St. John's Fr. Late lottery to late first. (Will hire agent)
Damian Lillard 6-2 190 PG Weber St. Jr. Late lottery to mid first. (Will hire agent)
Fab Melo 7-0 250 C Syracuse So. Late first to early second round. (Will hire a agent)
Reeves Nelson 6-7 238 SF/PF UCLA Jr. Unlikely to be drafted. Eligible after playing in Europe.
Seriously makes you wonder what many of these kids are thinking by declaring early when most are not going to get drafted as high as they hope to. every one of them could use another year of school to improve their games (and in the cases of the juniors that are unlikely to be drafted---get a degree to fall back on)
Rookie minimum for a 2nd round pick is still more than they'll make in college...probably.
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GIVE ME FAB MELO. I can already imagine what he can do defensively when he learns from KG on how to properly defend.
I am intrigued by Moe Harkless. Did not see him play a lot actually, but I've been reading stuff and there's buzz around him.
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Excellent website to follow this stuff - just found it:
http://www.nbadraft.net/2012-early-entry-list (http://www.nbadraft.net/2012-early-entry-list)
Last updated today.
Officially Entering:
Will Barton 6-6 171 SG/SF Memphis So. Second round to undrafted. (WIll hire agent)
JCovan Brown 6-2 180 PG/SG Texas Jr. Unlikely to be drafted. (Will hire an agent)
Jared Cunningham 6-4 200 SG Oregon St. Jr. Unlikely to be drafted. (Will not hire agent.)
Moe Harkless 6-8 205 SF St. John's Fr. Late lottery to late first. (Will hire agent)
Damian Lillard 6-2 190 PG Weber St. Jr. Late lottery to mid first. (Will hire agent)
Fab Melo 7-0 250 C Syracuse So. Late first to early second round. (Will hire a agent)
Reeves Nelson 6-7 238 SF/PF UCLA Jr. Unlikely to be drafted. Eligible after playing in Europe.
Seriously makes you wonder what many of these kids are thinking by declaring early when most are not going to get drafted as high as they hope to. every one of them could use another year of school to improve their games (and in the cases of the juniors that are unlikely to be drafted---get a degree to fall back on)
Rookie minimum for a 2nd round pick is still more than they'll make in college...probably.
2nd round picks aren't guarenteed contracts though, I think they still get something if they're released but its not much.
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According to multiple ESPN sources, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist will announce as soon as Kentucky's season ends, though there seem to be some conflicting reports.
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According to multiple ESPN sources, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist will announce as soon as Kentucky's season ends, though there seem to be some conflicting reports.
Now, there's a kid that should definitely go pro early.
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According to that previously mentioned link, here are a few household-name "50-50" guys...
Cody Zeller 6-11 235 PF/C Indiana Fr. Lottery pick.
Peyton Siva 5-11 170 PG Louisville Jr. Late second round to (likely) undrafted.
Shabazz Napier 6-1 181 PG UConn So. Late second round to (likely) undrafted.
Mason Plumlee 6-10 235 PF/C Duke Jr. Late first to early second round.
James McAdoo 6-9 220 SF/PF UNC Fr. Late lotto to mid first round.
CJ McCollom 6-3 185 PG/SG Lehigh Jr. Second round to undrafted.
John Jenkins 6-4 185 SG Vanderbilt Jr. Late first to second round.
Tim Hardaway Jr 6-5 190 SG Michigan So. Second round to undrafted.
Reggie Bullock 6-5 180 SG North Carolina So. Second round to undrafted.
Gotta imagine next years draft will be pretty solid too if a large majority of these guys decide to wait it out a year...
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According to that previously mentioned link, here are a few household-name "50-50" guys...
Cody Zeller 6-11 235 PF/C Indiana Fr. Lottery pick.
Peyton Siva 5-11 170 PG Louisville Jr. Late second round to (likely) undrafted.
Shabazz Napier 6-1 181 PG UConn So. Late second round to (likely) undrafted.
Mason Plumlee 6-10 235 PF/C Duke Jr. Late first to early second round.
James McAdoo 6-9 220 SF/PF UNC Fr. Late lotto to mid first round.
CJ McCollom 6-3 185 PG/SG Lehigh Jr. Second round to undrafted.
John Jenkins 6-4 185 SG Vanderbilt Jr. Late first to second round.
Tim Hardaway Jr 6-5 190 SG Michigan So. Second round to undrafted.
Reggie Bullock 6-5 180 SG North Carolina So. Second round to undrafted.
Gotta imagine next years draft will be pretty solid too if a large majority of these guys decide to wait it out a year...
Ok, no way Reggie Bullock and McAdoo are 50/50. McAdoo's father was quoted this weekend saying there is no way his son is going to the NBA. His exact words was "over my dead body." Bullock is going nowhere, anyone who follows Carolina knows that Marshall, McAdoo, and Bullock are locks to stay. Hensen and Barnes are more like 50/50 and I would be surprised if both go out. Kids stay at Carolina, they are not Kentucky.
Cody Zeller has stated several times he wants to bring a championship to Indiana. Plus both his brothers stayed all 4 years and Mr. Zeller is a doctor.
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Excellent website to follow this stuff - just found it:
http://www.nbadraft.net/2012-early-entry-list (http://www.nbadraft.net/2012-early-entry-list)
Last updated today.
Officially Entering:
Will Barton 6-6 171 SG/SF Memphis So. Second round to undrafted. (WIll hire agent)
JCovan Brown 6-2 180 PG/SG Texas Jr. Unlikely to be drafted. (Will hire an agent)
Jared Cunningham 6-4 200 SG Oregon St. Jr. Unlikely to be drafted. (Will not hire agent.)
Moe Harkless 6-8 205 SF St. John's Fr. Late lottery to late first. (Will hire agent)
Damian Lillard 6-2 190 PG Weber St. Jr. Late lottery to mid first. (Will hire agent)
Fab Melo 7-0 250 C Syracuse So. Late first to early second round. (Will hire a agent)
Reeves Nelson 6-7 238 SF/PF UCLA Jr. Unlikely to be drafted. Eligible after playing in Europe.
Seriously makes you wonder what many of these kids are thinking by declaring early when most are not going to get drafted as high as they hope to. every one of them could use another year of school to improve their games (and in the cases of the juniors that are unlikely to be drafted---get a degree to fall back on)
Rookie minimum for a 2nd round pick is still more than they'll make in college...probably.
2nd round picks aren't guarenteed contracts though, I think they still get something if they're released but its not much.
this was my point -- contracts aren't guaranteed, many 2nd rounders don't make the cut and if they do, they don't get much.
If they stay another year, they have a chance to move up in the draft, due to either improved performance or because the following year is projected to be less stacked, and make more money on the initial signing than they'd have made with that extra year as a pro.
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Excellent website to follow this stuff - just found it:
http://www.nbadraft.net/2012-early-entry-list (http://www.nbadraft.net/2012-early-entry-list)
Last updated today.
Officially Entering:
Will Barton 6-6 171 SG/SF Memphis So. Second round to undrafted. (WIll hire agent)
JCovan Brown 6-2 180 PG/SG Texas Jr. Unlikely to be drafted. (Will hire an agent)
Jared Cunningham 6-4 200 SG Oregon St. Jr. Unlikely to be drafted. (Will not hire agent.)
Moe Harkless 6-8 205 SF St. John's Fr. Late lottery to late first. (Will hire agent)
Damian Lillard 6-2 190 PG Weber St. Jr. Late lottery to mid first. (Will hire agent)
Fab Melo 7-0 250 C Syracuse So. Late first to early second round. (Will hire a agent)
Reeves Nelson 6-7 238 SF/PF UCLA Jr. Unlikely to be drafted. Eligible after playing in Europe.
Seriously makes you wonder what many of these kids are thinking by declaring early when most are not going to get drafted as high as they hope to. every one of them could use another year of school to improve their games (and in the cases of the juniors that are unlikely to be drafted---get a degree to fall back on)
Rookie minimum for a 2nd round pick is still more than they'll make in college...probably.
2nd round picks aren't guarenteed contracts though, I think they still get something if they're released but its not much.
I get that, but the shot at a second round contract vs the possibility of their stock declining further or injury in college, and the possibility of playing elsewhere (overseas, etc..) still is likely more $ than they'll get in college, and to some of these kids that's paramount.
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Key Dates:
- NCAA Deadline for players to withdraw and maintain NCAA eligibility - April 10th.
- NBA Early Entry Eligibility Deadline (11:59 p.m. ET) - April 29th.
- NBA Draft Early Entrant (International) Withdrawal Deadline (5:00 p.m. ET) - June 18th.
- NBA Draft - June 28th.
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The last pick in the 2nd round last year (Mr. Irrelevant) was Isiah Thomas, playing very well and getting great press in Sac.
For the delusionally inclined, or the underrated, that example would be big inspiration, plus the Jeremy Lin undrafted story.
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Key Dates:
- NCAA Deadline for players to withdraw and maintain NCAA eligibility - April 10th.
- NBA Early Entry Eligibility Deadline (11:59 p.m. ET) - April 29th.
- NBA Draft Early Entrant (International) Withdrawal Deadline (5:00 p.m. ET) - June 18th.
- NBA Draft - June 28th.
You what I take away from this? The NCAA sucks. What sense does it make for the NCAA deadline to withdraw being before the NBA dealine to enter the draft? Is the NCAA purposely trying to screw with players? How is a potential early entrant supposed to get a reasonable assertation of where they stand in regards to draft position under these circumstances?
I love watching Duke play, and always root for them, but hate the NCAA as an orginization.
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Key Dates:
- NCAA Deadline for players to withdraw and maintain NCAA eligibility - April 10th.
- NBA Early Entry Eligibility Deadline (11:59 p.m. ET) - April 29th.
- NBA Draft Early Entrant (International) Withdrawal Deadline (5:00 p.m. ET) - June 18th.
- NBA Draft - June 28th.
You what I take away from this? The NCAA sucks. What sense does it make for the NCAA deadline to withdraw being before the NBA dealine to enter the draft? Is the NCAA purposely trying to screw with players? How is a potential early entrant supposed to get a reasonable assertation of where they stand in regards to draft position under these circumstances?
I love watching Duke play, and always root for them, but hate the NCAA as an orginization.
Yeah i think that rule is in place simply to pacify college coaches, who at some point become more concerned with what's left of their roster over what is in the best interest of the kid who's exploring the possibility of the nba. I understand that line of thinking to a degree, but in the end it leaves the euro players with a sizeable advantage in terms of getting a true evaluation by actual nba teams.
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Key Dates:
- NCAA Deadline for players to withdraw and maintain NCAA eligibility - April 10th.
- NBA Early Entry Eligibility Deadline (11:59 p.m. ET) - April 29th.
- NBA Draft Early Entrant (International) Withdrawal Deadline (5:00 p.m. ET) - June 18th.
- NBA Draft - June 28th.
You what I take away from this? The NCAA sucks. What sense does it make for the NCAA deadline to withdraw being before the NBA dealine to enter the draft? Is the NCAA purposely trying to screw with players? How is a potential early entrant supposed to get a reasonable assertation of where they stand in regards to draft position under these circumstances?
I love watching Duke play, and always root for them, but hate the NCAA as an orginization.
Yeah i think that rule is in place simply to pacify college coaches, who at some point become more concerned with what's left of their roster over what is in the best interest of the kid who's exploring the possibility of the nba. I understand that line of thinking to a degree, but in the end it leaves the euro players with a sizeable advantage in terms of getting a true evaluation by actual nba teams.
Yup - it has everything to do with recruiting and available scholarships. How else is Calipari going to pick up another half-dozen McDonald's All-Americans if he's not sure his current batch are all leaving for good?
You could argue that a kid coming out, then realizing he's not ready only to find out his scholarship slot has been promised to another player isn't in his best interests either, though.
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Key Dates:
- NCAA Deadline for players to withdraw and maintain NCAA eligibility - April 10th.
- NBA Early Entry Eligibility Deadline (11:59 p.m. ET) - April 29th.
- NBA Draft Early Entrant (International) Withdrawal Deadline (5:00 p.m. ET) - June 18th.
- NBA Draft - June 28th.
3 more months until the draft?!! I can't stand the wait!! I need my draft fix now 8)
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Thought we could use a good catch-all thread for players as they declare for what's probably gonna be one of the deepest drafts in history.
Here are some of the guys who have officially put their names in:
Royce White (SF/PF) - Iowa St (will sign with agent)
Austin Rivers (SG) - Duke (agent)
Renardo Sidney (PF) - Mississippi St (agent)
Dion Waiters (SG) - Syracuse (agent)
Will Barton (SG) - Memphis (agent)
Moe Harkless (SF) - St. John's (agent)
Quincy Roberts (G) - Grambling (no agent)
Victor Rudd (SF) - South Florida (no agent)
Malik Wayns (PG) - Villanova (agent)
Feel free to add anyone I've missed, I'm not as up on this stuff as a lot of posters.
you can add Hollis Thompson (G'Town) to that list.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/hollis-thompson-is-leaving-georgetown-for-nba-draft/2012/03/27/gIQAHIt1eS_story.html
has anyone seen him play? from his stats he doesn't appear to be a first round pick.
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Thought we could use a good catch-all thread for players as they declare for what's probably gonna be one of the deepest drafts in history.
Here are some of the guys who have officially put their names in:
Royce White (SF/PF) - Iowa St (will sign with agent)
Austin Rivers (SG) - Duke (agent)
Renardo Sidney (PF) - Mississippi St (agent)
Dion Waiters (SG) - Syracuse (agent)
Will Barton (SG) - Memphis (agent)
Moe Harkless (SF) - St. John's (agent)
Quincy Roberts (G) - Grambling (no agent)
Victor Rudd (SF) - South Florida (no agent)
Malik Wayns (PG) - Villanova (agent)
Feel free to add anyone I've missed, I'm not as up on this stuff as a lot of posters.
you can add Hollis Thompson (G'Town) to that list.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/hollis-thompson-is-leaving-georgetown-for-nba-draft/2012/03/27/gIQAHIt1eS_story.html
has anyone seen him play? from his stats he doesn't appear to be a first round pick.
He's a very good three point shooter and looked very good in their loss to NC State.
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According to that previously mentioned link, here are a few household-name "50-50" guys...
Cody Zeller 6-11 235 PF/C Indiana Fr. Lottery pick.
Peyton Siva 5-11 170 PG Louisville Jr. Late second round to (likely) undrafted.
Shabazz Napier 6-1 181 PG UConn So. Late second round to (likely) undrafted.
Mason Plumlee 6-10 235 PF/C Duke Jr. Late first to early second round.
James McAdoo 6-9 220 SF/PF UNC Fr. Late lotto to mid first round.
CJ McCollom 6-3 185 PG/SG Lehigh Jr. Second round to undrafted.
John Jenkins 6-4 185 SG Vanderbilt Jr. Late first to second round.
Tim Hardaway Jr 6-5 190 SG Michigan So. Second round to undrafted.
Reggie Bullock 6-5 180 SG North Carolina So. Second round to undrafted.
Gotta imagine next years draft will be pretty solid too if a large majority of these guys decide to wait it out a year...
Looks like CJ McCollom will declare for the draft but will not hire an agent.
http://www.lehighsports.com/sports/mbball/mccollum_declares_for_nba_draft_to_explore_professional_possibilities.aspx (http://www.lehighsports.com/sports/mbball/mccollum_declares_for_nba_draft_to_explore_professional_possibilities.aspx)
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Henson, Marshall, and Barnes all to the NBA.
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7752253/north-carolina-tar-heels-jon-henson-harrison-barnes-kendall-marshall-enter-draft
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According to that previously mentioned link, here are a few household-name "50-50" guys...
Cody Zeller 6-11 235 PF/C Indiana Fr. Lottery pick.
Peyton Siva 5-11 170 PG Louisville Jr. Late second round to (likely) undrafted.
Shabazz Napier 6-1 181 PG UConn So. Late second round to (likely) undrafted.
Mason Plumlee 6-10 235 PF/C Duke Jr. Late first to early second round.
James McAdoo 6-9 220 SF/PF UNC Fr. Late lotto to mid first round.
CJ McCollom 6-3 185 PG/SG Lehigh Jr. Second round to undrafted.
John Jenkins 6-4 185 SG Vanderbilt Jr. Late first to second round.
Tim Hardaway Jr 6-5 190 SG Michigan So. Second round to undrafted.
Reggie Bullock 6-5 180 SG North Carolina So. Second round to undrafted.
Gotta imagine next years draft will be pretty solid too if a large majority of these guys decide to wait it out a year...
wow....McAdoo and Bullock are so not ready
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McAdoo looked decent in the last game. I think Cody will be better than Tyler Zeller.
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Terrence Ross is officially in:
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7763291/2012-nba-draft-washington-huskies-guard-terrence-ross-enter-draft (http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7763291/2012-nba-draft-washington-huskies-guard-terrence-ross-enter-draft)
Haven't seen much of Ross but I know some folks here are really big on him.
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According to that previously mentioned link, here are a few household-name "50-50" guys...
Cody Zeller 6-11 235 PF/C Indiana Fr. Lottery pick.
Peyton Siva 5-11 170 PG Louisville Jr. Late second round to (likely) undrafted.
Shabazz Napier 6-1 181 PG UConn So. Late second round to (likely) undrafted.
Mason Plumlee 6-10 235 PF/C Duke Jr. Late first to early second round.
James McAdoo 6-9 220 SF/PF UNC Fr. Late lotto to mid first round.
CJ McCollom 6-3 185 PG/SG Lehigh Jr. Second round to undrafted.
John Jenkins 6-4 185 SG Vanderbilt Jr. Late first to second round.
Tim Hardaway Jr 6-5 190 SG Michigan So. Second round to undrafted.
Reggie Bullock 6-5 180 SG North Carolina So. Second round to undrafted.
Gotta imagine next years draft will be pretty solid too if a large majority of these guys decide to wait it out a year...
wow....McAdoo and Bullock are so not ready
Yeah I'm not sure why the site thinks Bullock is 50/50 on entering. There has been zero news about him even thinking about declaring which makes me feel like he's just going to stay in school.
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Updated list of early entry names (as of last night):
- Evan Fournier 6-7 190 SF France (92) - Late first to early second round.
- Rudy Gobert 7-0 240 C France (92) - Second round to undrafted.
- Meyers Leonard 7-1 245 C Illinois So. - Late lottery to mid first round. (Will hire agent)
- Arnett Moultrie 6-10 225 PF/C Miss St. Jr. - Lottery to late teens. (Will hire an agent)
- Raymond Taylor 5-6 145 PG Florida Atlantic Jr. - Unlikely to be drafted. (Will hire agent)
- Tony Wroten 6-5 205 PG/SG Washington Fr. - Mid first to early second round.
- BJ Young 6-4 180 PG/SG Arkansas Fr. - Late first to (likely) second round. (Will not hire agent.)
NOTE: (92) = birth year of two Euro's listed
Interesting to see some Euros declaring already, not sure why that is. Also interesting to see a guy like Raymond Taylor declare & hire an agent considering he has another year of eligibility...
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According to that previously mentioned link, here are a few household-name "50-50" guys...
Cody Zeller 6-11 235 PF/C Indiana Fr. Lottery pick.
Peyton Siva 5-11 170 PG Louisville Jr. Late second round to (likely) undrafted.
Shabazz Napier 6-1 181 PG UConn So. Late second round to (likely) undrafted.
Mason Plumlee 6-10 235 PF/C Duke Jr. Late first to early second round.
James McAdoo 6-9 220 SF/PF UNC Fr. Late lotto to mid first round.
CJ McCollom 6-3 185 PG/SG Lehigh Jr. Second round to undrafted.
John Jenkins 6-4 185 SG Vanderbilt Jr. Late first to second round.
Tim Hardaway Jr 6-5 190 SG Michigan So. Second round to undrafted.
Reggie Bullock 6-5 180 SG North Carolina So. Second round to undrafted.
Gotta imagine next years draft will be pretty solid too if a large majority of these guys decide to wait it out a year...
Ok, no way Reggie Bullock and McAdoo are 50/50. McAdoo's father was quoted this weekend saying there is no way his son is going to the NBA. His exact words was "over my dead body." Bullock is going nowhere, anyone who follows Carolina knows that Marshall, McAdoo, and Bullock are locks to stay. Hensen and Barnes are more like 50/50 and I would be surprised if both go out. Kids stay at Carolina, they are not Kentucky.
Cody Zeller has stated several times he wants to bring a championship to Indiana. Plus both his brothers stayed all 4 years and Mr. Zeller is a doctor.
Well, Marshall is going along with Henson and Barnes...
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According to that previously mentioned link, here are a few household-name "50-50" guys...
Cody Zeller 6-11 235 PF/C Indiana Fr. Lottery pick.
Peyton Siva 5-11 170 PG Louisville Jr. Late second round to (likely) undrafted.
Shabazz Napier 6-1 181 PG UConn So. Late second round to (likely) undrafted.
Mason Plumlee 6-10 235 PF/C Duke Jr. Late first to early second round.
James McAdoo 6-9 220 SF/PF UNC Fr. Late lotto to mid first round.
CJ McCollom 6-3 185 PG/SG Lehigh Jr. Second round to undrafted.
John Jenkins 6-4 185 SG Vanderbilt Jr. Late first to second round.
Tim Hardaway Jr 6-5 190 SG Michigan So. Second round to undrafted.
Reggie Bullock 6-5 180 SG North Carolina So. Second round to undrafted.
Gotta imagine next years draft will be pretty solid too if a large majority of these guys decide to wait it out a year...
Looks like CJ McCollom will declare for the draft but will not hire an agent.
http://www.lehighsports.com/sports/mbball/mccollum_declares_for_nba_draft_to_explore_professional_possibilities.aspx (http://www.lehighsports.com/sports/mbball/mccollum_declares_for_nba_draft_to_explore_professional_possibilities.aspx)
I would love it if we could get him with the Bucks pick. He could add some much needed playmaking ability to the 2nd unit.
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Anyone know when the Kentucky starting 5 is going to officially declare?
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Anyone know when the Kentucky starting 5 is going to officially declare?
Nope. The reports kept saying "after the title game" but no timetable. I'm sure we'll hear about their decisions within the next day or two...which should also impact the decisions of numerous other fence-sitters.
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Key Dates:
- NCAA Deadline for players to withdraw and maintain NCAA eligibility - April 10th.
- NBA Early Entry Eligibility Deadline (11:59 p.m. ET) - April 29th.
- NBA Draft Early Entrant (International) Withdrawal Deadline (5:00 p.m. ET) - June 18th.
- NBA Draft - June 28th.
You what I take away from this? The NCAA sucks. What sense does it make for the NCAA deadline to withdraw being before the NBA dealine to enter the draft? Is the NCAA purposely trying to screw with players? How is a potential early entrant supposed to get a reasonable assertation of where they stand in regards to draft position under these circumstances?
I love watching Duke play, and always root for them, but hate the NCAA as an orginization.
The national letter intent day begins April 11. Thus, the reason for the April 10 deadline.
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BJ Young's a really interesting guy. I think he'll end up being a first rounder for sure, maybe even a mid-first rounder. He's a very good athlete with excellent quickness and speed but he can also really shoot. I didn't see a lot of weaknesses. There might be a question of whether he's a point or not but the times I watched him play, he can pass and is a good decison maker off picks. He has the necessary handle and I think the vision is there too. He'd be someone I wouldn't mind the Celtics getting.
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Sullinger's officially in:
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says (http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says)
I think he's being severely underrated right now. Would love to see him slip to us.
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Sullinger's officially in:
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says (http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says)
I think he's being severely underrated right now. Would love to see him slip to us.
EH I think he is too undersized and not athletic enough to be more than a better BBD/dujuan blair type. Whithey and Robinson(who is the same size,but much more athletic) dominated him.
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Sullinger's officially in:
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says (http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says)
I think he's being severely underrated right now. Would love to see him slip to us.
EH I think he is too undersized and not athletic enough to be more than a better BBD/dujuan blair type. Whithey and Robinson(who is the same size,but much more athletic) dominated him.
Dajuan Blair would be a huge boon to us..but Sullinger measured 6'10 (in shoes), with a 7'1 wingspan
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Sullinger's officially in:
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says (http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says)
I think he's being severely underrated right now. Would love to see him slip to us.
EH I think he is too undersized and not athletic enough to be more than a better BBD/dujuan blair type. Whithey and Robinson(who is the same size,but much more athletic) dominated him.
Dajuan Blair would be a huge boon to us..but Sullinger measured 6'10 (in shoes), with a 7'1 wingspan
and he still has ACLs, no?
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Sullinger's officially in:
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says (http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says)
I think he's being severely underrated right now. Would love to see him slip to us.
EH I think he is too undersized and not athletic enough to be more than a better BBD/dujuan blair type. Whithey and Robinson(who is the same size,but much more athletic) dominated him.
I am expecting Sullinger to be a Z-Bo or Boozer type.
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Sullinger's officially in:
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says (http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says)
I think he's being severely underrated right now. Would love to see him slip to us.
I doubt he will, but I'd be very excited if he did.
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Trey Burke is expected to go, but hasn't declared yet. Kid would be an absolute steal for anyone, averaged 15, 5, and 4 as a freshman PG for Michigan.
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Sullinger's officially in:
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says (http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says)
I think he's being severely underrated right now. Would love to see him slip to us.
EH I think he is too undersized and not athletic enough to be more than a better BBD/dujuan blair type. Whithey and Robinson(who is the same size,but much more athletic) dominated him.
Dajuan Blair would be a huge boon to us..but Sullinger measured 6'10 (in shoes), with a 7'1 wingspan
Sullinger is not 6'10, there's no way a 6'10 guy would have that much trouble getting up shots on Robert Sacre. Sullinger is probaby 6'8
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Apparently Goodman has Burke likely to declare. I can't believe it. While he had an impressive freshman year, it wasn't a dominating year and his physical tools and current skill level aren't really noteworthy. He's an undersized point guard with average physical tools for his NBA position.
Trying to understand his reasoning, maybe he's trying to take advantage of a weak point guard crop. He's never going to be thought of as a stellar NBA prospect no matter how long he stays in college so maybe he's trying to take advantage of this draft right now. On the other hand, next year's draft is also supposed to be weak on points.
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Two very different-caliber prospects, James McAdoo (UNC) and Kenny Boynton (Florida), will NOT be entering the draft this year:
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/05/james-michael-mcadoo-puts-nba-draft-talks-to-rest-will-return-to-unc/ (http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/05/james-michael-mcadoo-puts-nba-draft-talks-to-rest-will-return-to-unc/)
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7779022/kenny-boynton-florida-gators-returning-senior-season (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7779022/kenny-boynton-florida-gators-returning-senior-season)
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Two very different-caliber prospects, James McAdoo (UNC) and Kenny Boynton (Florida), will NOT be entering the draft this year:
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/05/james-michael-mcadoo-puts-nba-draft-talks-to-rest-will-return-to-unc/ (http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/05/james-michael-mcadoo-puts-nba-draft-talks-to-rest-will-return-to-unc/)
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7779022/kenny-boynton-florida-gators-returning-senior-season (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7779022/kenny-boynton-florida-gators-returning-senior-season)
We'll see what happens with McAdoo, but he could have been top 10 pick this year. His lack of playing time helped his stock ironically, because what people saw was impressive (very limited game action though).
For all we know, he could go out next year and average 4 pts and 2 rbs a game. Should have declared for the draft IMO.
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Fab Melo is in:
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7779795/2012-nba-draft-syracuse-orange-fab-melo-declares-draft
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Sullinger's officially in:
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says (http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says)
I think he's being severely underrated right now. Would love to see him slip to us.
EH I think he is too undersized and not athletic enough to be more than a better BBD/dujuan blair type. Whithey and Robinson(who is the same size,but much more athletic) dominated him.
Dajuan Blair would be a huge boon to us..but Sullinger measured 6'10 (in shoes), with a 7'1 wingspan
Sullinger is not 6'10, there's no way a 6'10 guy would have that much trouble getting up shots on Robert Sacre. Sullinger is probaby 6'8
Robert Sacre is 7 feet and in my opinion one of the best defenders in college basketball. Most people should have trouble getting a shot off against him.
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Trey Burke is expected to go, but hasn't declared yet. Kid would be an absolute steal for anyone, averaged 15, 5, and 4 as a freshman PG for Michigan.
Trey Burke needs at least a season in the D-league. He could be a nice player in a couple of years, but I'm not sure I'd declare him a steal. Someone to look at in the second-round, especially if we have two picks, and maybe someone for us fans to learn to be patient with. But he's small, and has a tendency to both get in trouble with his dribble and launch long, early shot-clock, 3's. I am honestly surprised he's likely entering the draft, but perhaps he doesn't like Michigan, and this is a better option that transferring and sitting out a year.
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Sullinger's officially in:
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says (http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says)
I think he's being severely underrated right now. Would love to see him slip to us.
DraftExpress has him going sixth in their mock draft. How is that undervalued (or relevant to the C's)?
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Sullinger's officially in:
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says (http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says)
I think he's being severely underrated right now. Would love to see him slip to us.
DraftExpress has him going sixth in their mock draft. How is that undervalued (or relevant to the C's)?
NBAdraft.net had him going at 15, so who knows? He is underrated at the moment.
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Sullinger's officially in:
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says (http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says)
I think he's being severely underrated right now. Would love to see him slip to us.
EH I think he is too undersized and not athletic enough to be more than a better BBD/dujuan blair type. Whithey and Robinson(who is the same size,but much more athletic) dominated him.
Dajuan Blair would be a huge boon to us..but Sullinger measured 6'10 (in shoes), with a 7'1 wingspan
Sullinger is not 6'10, there's no way a 6'10 guy would have that much trouble getting up shots on Robert Sacre. Sullinger is probaby 6'8
He measured 6'9.5 with shoes on in 2009.
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We'll see what happens with McAdoo, but he could have been top 10 pick this year. His lack of playing time helped his stock ironically, because what people saw was impressive (very limited game action though).
For all we know, he could go out next year and average 4 pts and 2 rbs a game. Should have declared for the draft IMO.
People were impressed by what they saw after he finally started playing to his preseason billing during the ACC and NCAA tournament. Before then, he was bad enough in his limited time coming off the bench that I think he had slipped from a guy who was projected as a top 7 pick to a mid-first rounder. For most of the year, he looked nothing like he was projected, airballing a ton of outside jumpers and looked rushed and unsure of himself.
I thought the best he looked all year was in his first ever start after John Henson got hurt. He was composed and worked seamlessly into a team structure, picking when to pass and when to shoot. When he came off the bench, it was like he tried to be a microwave scorer. He literally shot every time he shot the ball and wasn't all that successful at it either. For a guy who was praised for his high basketball IQ, it was startling. Seeing how much better he was as a starter, I think he just didn't know how to adjust to being a reserve for the firs time in his life.
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The last pick in the 2nd round last year (Mr. Irrelevant) was Isiah Thomas, playing very well and getting great press in Sac.
For the delusionally inclined, or the underrated, that example would be big inspiration, plus the Jeremy Lin undrafted story.
Not to mention, Ginobili went on 55th pick and both Bruce Bowen and Ben Wallace went undrafted.
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McAdoo has elite bloodlines isn't he a cousin to Bob?
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McAdoo has elite bloodlines isn't he a cousin to Bob?
i believe so, though how "elite" those bloodlines are could be debated.
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Trey Burke is expected to go, but hasn't declared yet. Kid would be an absolute steal for anyone, averaged 15, 5, and 4 as a freshman PG for Michigan.
Trey Burke needs at least a season in the D-league. He could be a nice player in a couple of years, but I'm not sure I'd declare him a steal. Someone to look at in the second-round, especially if we have two picks, and maybe someone for us fans to learn to be patient with. But he's small, and has a tendency to both get in trouble with his dribble and launch long, early shot-clock, 3's. I am honestly surprised he's likely entering the draft, but perhaps he doesn't like Michigan, and this is a better option that transferring and sitting out a year.
havent seem much of burke, but i think your take is a good one. in a year his stock would probably be higher. but if he comes out and the celtics take him in the second round, i would not complain.
a question for the board...i know sometimes teams "sell" first round picks. does this happen with second round picks as well? if so, danny may be tempted to do so given the evenness of player talent deep into the draft.
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McAdoo has elite bloodlines isn't he a cousin to Bob?
Nephew.
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From ESPN:
Kansas forward Thomas Robinson will announce at a news conference Monday that he will enter the NBA draft, Jayhawks coach Bill Self told ESPN.com's Andy Katz.
Justin Hamilton (C - LSU) has also declared.
http://www.shreveporttimes.com/article/20120406/SPORTS0202/204060328/LSU-s-Justin-Hamilton-opts-NBA?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|s (http://www.shreveporttimes.com/article/20120406/SPORTS0202/204060328/LSU-s-Justin-Hamilton-opts-NBA?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|s)
Same for Texas A&M junior Khris Middleton (SF)
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/18354959/texas-ams-khris-middleton-declares-for-draft (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/18354959/texas-ams-khris-middleton-declares-for-draft)
Also, some interesting news:
Mississippi State talented freshman Rodney Hood is transferring, sources told CBSSports.com.
Lastly, looks like CJ Mccollum will NOT head to the nba.
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2012-04-09/cj-mccollum-lehigh-nba-draft-staying#ixzz1rZ0KQO9x (http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2012-04-09/cj-mccollum-lehigh-nba-draft-staying#ixzz1rZ0KQO9x)
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Somehow I think Thomas Robinson will have a successful NBA career. He's a good leader, and a great athlete. I believe he will be the 2nd pick above Kidd-Gilchrist
but how much you want to bet that Cleveland will somehow end up with the number 1 pick again
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Somehow I think Thomas Robinson will have a successful NBA career. He's a good leader, and a great athlete. I believe he will be the 2nd pick above Kidd-Gilchrist
Robinson kinda reminds me of what Leon Powe with good knees might play like (he's bigger and stronger too though). Looking forward to seeing how he translates to the NBA.
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a question for the board...i know sometimes teams "sell" first round picks. does this happen with second round picks as well? if so, danny may be tempted to do so given the evenness of player talent deep into the draft.
I think that's how we got Bill Walker.
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Khris Middleton, SG/SF from Texas A&M, has declared for the draft. He got injured early in the year, but before that, he was projected as a mid to high first round pick this year. He produced pretty decently when he came back, and is projected to go somewhere in the second round, depending on his workouts. I say we take a flier on him. Low-risk, High-reward!
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Robinson kinda reminds me of what Leon Powe with good knees might play like (he's bigger and stronger too though). Looking forward to seeing how he translates to the NBA.
I like this theoretical comparison. They're similar size and skill levels--rebound, get to the line frequently--but Thomas has the athleticism that Powe lost after tearing his ACL two times.
I don't think Thomas becomes a star without improving his outside shot or developing a more skilled post game. You can say that about any player, I mean, even Dwight Howard for all his size and athleticism has an excellent jump hook with either hand but Thomas at around 6'8 really needs to be more skillful.
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Somehow I think Thomas Robinson will have a successful NBA career. He's a good leader, and a great athlete. I believe he will be the 2nd pick above Kidd-Gilchrist
Robinson kinda reminds me of what Leon Powe with good knees might play like (he's bigger and stronger too though). Looking forward to seeing how he translates to the NBA.
I see a young Amare
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Khris Middleton, SG/SF from Texas A&M, has declared for the draft. He got injured early in the year, but before that, he was projected as a mid to high first round pick this year. He produced pretty decently when he came back, and is projected to go somewhere in the second round, depending on his workouts. I say we take a flier on him. Low-risk, High-reward!
i agree. most mocks had him high before he got injured. It is a low risk high reward pick.
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Some more newsworthy nuggets as of this morning...
Trey Burke to return to Michigan for sophomore season
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120409/SPORTS0201/204090399#ixzz1reIcq2e4 (http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120409/SPORTS0201/204090399#ixzz1reIcq2e4)
To no one's suprise, Baylor men’s basketball sophomore forward Perry Jones III has declared for the 2012 NBA Draft.
http://www.baylorbears.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/040912aac.html (http://www.baylorbears.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/040912aac.html)
Vanderbilt's John Jenkins to enter NBA draft.
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120409/SPORTS0602/304090054/Vanderbilt-s-John-Jenkins-turning-pro?odyssey=mod|breaking|text|FRONTPAGE (http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120409/SPORTS0602/304090054/Vanderbilt-s-John-Jenkins-turning-pro?odyssey=mod|breaking|text|FRONTPAGE)
Oregon State junior guard Jared Cunningham will forego his senior season and enter the 2012 NBA Draft, the school announced Monday.
http://www.sacbee.com/2012/04/09/4401615/oregon-states-cunningham-enters.html#storylink=cpy (http://www.sacbee.com/2012/04/09/4401615/oregon-states-cunningham-enters.html#storylink=cpy)
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Somehow I think Thomas Robinson will have a successful NBA career. He's a good leader, and a great athlete. I believe he will be the 2nd pick above Kidd-Gilchrist
Robinson kinda reminds me of what Leon Powe with good knees might play like (he's bigger and stronger too though). Looking forward to seeing how he translates to the NBA.
I see a young Amare
The problem is, I think Robinson is closer to 6'7", and Amare is a legit 6'10".
The guy he really reminds me of is Millsap. He is probably a better athlete (although Millsap is more athletic than he is given credit for), but I think they have a similar style. Very solid floor game for a big man, but really takes the ball hard to the hoop and plays bigger than his height.
I also see a little Blake Griffin in him as well.
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Somehow I think Thomas Robinson will have a successful NBA career. He's a good leader, and a great athlete. I believe he will be the 2nd pick above Kidd-Gilchrist
Robinson kinda reminds me of what Leon Powe with good knees might play like (he's bigger and stronger too though). Looking forward to seeing how he translates to the NBA.
I see a young Amare
The problem is, I think Robinson is closer to 6'7", and Amare is a legit 6'10".
The guy he really reminds me of is Millsap. He is probably a better athlete (although Millsap is more athletic than he is given credit for), but I think they have a similar style. Very solid floor game for a big man, but really takes the ball hard to the hoop and plays bigger than his height.
I also see a little Blake Griffin in him as well.
6'10 in shoes, 7'1 wingspan. Found it from 2 sources.
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Somehow I think Thomas Robinson will have a successful NBA career. He's a good leader, and a great athlete. I believe he will be the 2nd pick above Kidd-Gilchrist
Robinson kinda reminds me of what Leon Powe with good knees might play like (he's bigger and stronger too though). Looking forward to seeing how he translates to the NBA.
I see a young Amare
The problem is, I think Robinson is closer to 6'7", and Amare is a legit 6'10".
The guy he really reminds me of is Millsap. He is probably a better athlete (although Millsap is more athletic than he is given credit for), but I think they have a similar style. Very solid floor game for a big man, but really takes the ball hard to the hoop and plays bigger than his height.
I also see a little Blake Griffin in him as well.
6'10 in shoes, 7'1 wingspan. Found it from 2 sources.
Robinson, or Amare?
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Sullinger's officially in:
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says (http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says)
I think he's being severely underrated right now. Would love to see him slip to us.
DraftExpress has him going sixth in their mock draft. How is that undervalued (or relevant to the C's)?
NBAdraft.net had him going at 15, so who knows? He is underrated at the moment.
Maybe I underrate Sullinger, but I see him as another Marcus Fizer...a great college player who's game doesn't translate to the pros. I expect Sullinger to get picked in the lottery and within a year or two be considered a bust. If he had (or develops) a consistently good 20 foot jumper and the lateral quickness to guard NBA PF's to go along with his big butt inside power game I might have to change my mind, but frankly, I'll believe it when I see it from Sullinger.
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Somehow I think Thomas Robinson will have a successful NBA career. He's a good leader, and a great athlete. I believe he will be the 2nd pick above Kidd-Gilchrist
Robinson kinda reminds me of what Leon Powe with good knees might play like (he's bigger and stronger too though). Looking forward to seeing how he translates to the NBA.
I see a young Amare
The problem is, I think Robinson is closer to 6'7", and Amare is a legit 6'10".
The guy he really reminds me of is Millsap. He is probably a better athlete (although Millsap is more athletic than he is given credit for), but I think they have a similar style. Very solid floor game for a big man, but really takes the ball hard to the hoop and plays bigger than his height.
I also see a little Blake Griffin in him as well.
6'10 in shoes, 7'1 wingspan. Found it from 2 sources.
Robinson, or Amare?
Robinson. Stoudemire was 6'8.5 without shoes, 6'10 with (7'2 reach)
Millsap was 6'6.25 w/o shoes. 6'8 with. 7'2 wingspan.
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Sullinger's officially in:
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says (http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7774756/jared-sullinger-ohio-state-buckeyes-announce-entering-draft-source-says)
I think he's being severely underrated right now. Would love to see him slip to us.
DraftExpress has him going sixth in their mock draft. How is that undervalued (or relevant to the C's)?
NBAdraft.net had him going at 15, so who knows? He is underrated at the moment.
Maybe I underrate Sullinger, but I see him as another Marcus Fizer...a great college player who's game doesn't translate to the pros. I expect Sullinger to get picked in the lottery and within a year or two be considered a bust. If he had (or develops) a consistently good 20 foot jumper and the lateral quickness to guard NBA PF's to go along with his big butt inside power game I might have to change my mind, but frankly, I'll believe it when I see it from Sullinger.
Sullinger probably is what he is at this point, but i don't think that's a terrible thing.
You don't see many big men with that old school back-to-the-basket game anymore. He can finish with both hands, he likes physicality, and he's a fierce competitor. Perhaps a rich man's Craig Smith? If he can develope a deeper jump shot he can be much more than that. I think that's worth a pick around the 15 range.
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There is no way Thomas Robinson is 6'10. As imprecise as eyeballing a player's height on TV may be, guys who are 6'10 stand out, especially in college. Robinson didn't noticeably tower over guys. He looked like a big NBA small forward height-wise, around 6'8 in shoes. I think he measures out similarly like Derrick Williams did last year, 6'7 1/4 w/o shoes, 6'8 3/4 with.
The measurements from the summer camps are unreliable. The Amare camp listed Robinson's height as 6'10 in shoes. At the same camp, Mitch McGary supposedly measured 6'11 in shoes but at the recent Hoops Summit, he measured 6'9 in barefeet and 6'9 3/4 in shoes, which could be normalized to 6'10 1/2 in NBA protocol. Sometimes the wingspans they give are laughably too short.
This speculating about a player's height down to fractions of an inch, in shoes no less, is pretty silly but there are some really big PFs at the top of the positional charts along with the shorter Love.
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Somehow I think Thomas Robinson will have a successful NBA career. He's a good leader, and a great athlete. I believe he will be the 2nd pick above Kidd-Gilchrist
Robinson kinda reminds me of what Leon Powe with good knees might play like (he's bigger and stronger too though). Looking forward to seeing how he translates to the NBA.
I think Robinson is an athletic David West.. Would love to have him in green!
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From the Celtics' perspective, it's disappointing that BJ Young, Tony Mitchell and Quincy Miller won't be in the draft. It's three talented guys who won't be available with the Celtics/Clippers picks and it makes the draft much shallower. This draft is pretty overrated to begin with and now it's even more so.
Of the three players, I'm most disappointed about BJ Young. If the NCAA hadn't been its hypocritical self and instituted a self-serving new, early draft deadline, I think he would've so impressed during workouts that he would have stayed in. On the basis of his outstanding athleticism, skills and high school pedigree, he's a first rounder. He's such a talented player. He reminds me a lot of George Hill but with superior passing ability that could make him a fulltime point guard.
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Didn't see this in here anywhere, but Jeremy "don't call me Doron" Lamb is in:
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7796428/jeremy-lamb-connecticut-huskies-declares-nba-draft (http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7796428/jeremy-lamb-connecticut-huskies-declares-nba-draft)
Looking like a high-to-mid lottery pick at this point.
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I've been high on Tony Mitchell all year, and thought he looked like a steal. Bummer to see him and Quincy Miller withdraw, but probably the right move for both of them, definitely for Mitchell.
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Andre Drummond is officially in...
http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-men/hc-andre-drummond-nba-decision-20120412,0,914057.story?track=rss (http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-men/hc-andre-drummond-nba-decision-20120412,0,914057.story?track=rss)
Abandon ship in Connecticut!!!
nbadraft.net released a mock draft 3.0 as of 9pm last night, here are the Celtics picks:
#21 Festus Ezeli 6-11 255 PF/C Vanderbilt Sr
*Ezeli never broke out as a star at Vanderbilt, but there are few bigmen with his combination of size, strength, fluidity and touch. He is a bit of a reach here, but with Boston's aging frontcourt, a young bigman that can provide strength and toughness down low would be a welcomed addition.
NBA Comparison: Mark West
#25 Andrew Nicholson 6-9 240 PF St. Bonaventure Sr.
*Nicholson might ultimately go quite a bit higher than this as he's one of the more polished post players available. Boston continues to bolster their aging frontcourt by adding a player with readiness and potential.
NBA Comparison: Craig Brackins
Interesting as i haven't heard of either of these guys on the C's radar. Ezeli seems like an interesting option. In their mock, Meyers Leonard goes #19 and Royce White #24.
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Beal is officially in.
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7809114/florida-gators-freshman-bradley-beal-enter-nba-draft
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#25 Andrew Nicholson 6-9 240 PF St. Bonaventure Sr.
*Nicholson might ultimately go quite a bit higher than this as he's one of the more polished post players available. Boston continues to bolster their aging frontcourt by adding a player with readiness and potential.
NBA Comparison: Craig Brackins
Craig Brackins?
That's like saying, he's a third year declined team option / rotational play in the Italian league.
Mk
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To the surprise of absolutely no one, Kentucky's entire starting 5 is officially in:
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7825727/kentucky-wildcats-starting-five-declares-nba-draft (http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7825727/kentucky-wildcats-starting-five-declares-nba-draft)