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Title: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: FLCeltsFan on February 17, 2012, 11:10:35 PM
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Boston Celtics (15-14) at Detroit Pistons (10-22)
Sunday, February 19
6:00 PM ET
Regular Season Game #30, Road Game #11
TV:  CSNNE, FSD,  LP 751/752 (DTV)
Radio:  WEEI, 97.1 FM The Ticket
Palace of Auburn Hills   

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Probable Starters
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Rajon Rondo.... Ray Allen.... Paul Pierce.....Kevin Garnett.... Jermaine O'Neal

Celtics Reserves

Marquis Daniels
Greg Steimsma
JaJuan Johnson
E'Twaun Moore
Keyon Dooling
Mickael Pietrus
Chris Wilcox
Avery Bradley 

Injuries
Sasha Pavlovic (wrist)  day to day
Brandon Bass  (knee)  out

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Probable Starters
PG(http://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Knight_Brandon_det_12.jpg) SG(http://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Stuckey_Rodney_det.jpg) SF(http://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Prince_Tayshaun_det.jpg) PF(http://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Maxiell_Jason_det_12.jpg) C(http://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Monroe_Greg_det_12.jpg)
Brandon Knight...Rodney Stuckey...Tayshaun Prince...Jason Maxiell..Greg Monroe 

Pistons Bench
Ben Wallace
Jonas Jerebko
Brandon Knight
Austin Daye
Damien Wilkins
Vernon Macklin
Will Bynum
Ben Gordon
Walker Russell


Injuries

Charlie Villanueva  (foot)  out

Team Connections

Ben Gordon, Charlie Villanueva and Ray Allen all attended the University of Connecticut
Tayshaun Prince, Brandon Knight and Rajon Rondo attended the University of Kentucky
Pistons Head Coach Lawrence Frank was an assistant coach with the Celtics during the 2010‐11 season
Sasha Pavlovic and Ben Wallace were teammates on the Cleveland Cavaliers from 2007‐09
Pistons Assistant Coach Roy Rogers played for the Celtics during the 1997‐98 season and was an assistant coach during the 2010‐11 season.
Chris Wilcox played for the Pistons from 2009-11. 

Key Matchups 
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Rajon Rondo vs Brandon Knight
 In the last meeting between these two teams, Rondo won this matchup, but the Celtics lost the game.  Rondo finished with 35 points, 5 rebounds, 6 assists and 4 steals.  Knight had 6 points, 3 rebounds, 1 assist, and 1 steal.   The Celtics need Rondo to be aggressive but he needs to balance his own scoring with setting up his teammates. 

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Paul Pierce vs Tayshaun Prince
This has been a great matchup over the years,  Prince's length can give Pierce problems but Pierce's strength can also give Prince problems.  These two played each other fairly even in the last game with Pierce putting up 10 points, 1 rebound and 5 assists while Prince had 10 points, 5 rebounds and 2 assists.  Pierce has been in a mini slump lately and the Celtics need more from their Captain. 

Honorable Mention

Ray Allen vs Rodney Stuckey
Stuckey scored 25 points in their last meeting while Ray put up just 10.  The Celtics' offense has been sluggish and their ball movement has been terrible and that explains why Ray has struggles in the last few games.  Ray hit a couple of big shots in the loss to the Bulls and that may get him going but he needs Rondo to find him when he's open. 

Game Notes
This is "Old Coach Week" for the Celtics.  They have faced both Tom Thibodeau and Lawrence Frank twice this week.  They are 1-1 against the Bulls and hopefully, after this game, they will be 1-1 against the Pistons as well. This is the 3rd and final meeting between these two teams and it is the rubber match.  Both teams one one game in Boston and this will be the lone game in Detroit. 

In Wednesday's game against these Pistons, the Celtics looked uninterested and were a step behind on both offense and defense.  They allowed the Pistons to out-rebound them 44-33.   We can also point to just 16 assists as a team as a reason they lost.  They also shot just 59% from the line, which indicates a lack of focus. 

The Celtics played without Kevin Garnett, which left a hole in the defense which the Pistons were glad to use to score seemingly at will.  Greg Monroe went off for 22 points.  Bill Russell was on hand to watch the carnage and received several standing ovations from the crowd.  The game was so bad, they needed something to cheer about.   

 The Celtics have a 2 game losing streak going while the Pistons are on a 2 game winning streak.  Both teams are 6-4 in their last 10 games.  The Pistons are 7-10 at home while the Celtics are just 4-6 on the road. 

The Celtics owe this team a beat down and hopefully they will come ready to play.   If not, they could be on a 3 game losing streak at the end of the game. 

Keys to the Game
Defense - It all begins with defense.  The Celtics have been winning with defense and they have to continue to play tough lock down defense. They have the top defense in the league and they need to keep playing like it. 

Rebound - The Celtics need to be aggressive on the boards.  Rebounding is effort and if the Celtics are putting the effort out to grab rebounds then that effort will translate to the other areas of their game.  In the last meeting between these two teams the Pistons out-rebounded the Celtics by 11.  In every recent loss the Celtics have lost the battle of the boards.   That isn't a coincidence.  They must put out effort to box out and to grab the rebounds. 

Focus
- The Celtics have been very sloppy with their passes and have allowed defenders to just swipe the ball.  At times they drive into a triple team and just lose the ball.  They have also been missing from the charity stripe.  They shot just 59% on free throws in the last meeting with the Pistions.   All of this is due to a lack of focus.  When they are focused and locked in they don't commit near as many errors and they are more efficient on offense.  They must come into this game focused on getting the win.

Energy and Aggressiveness
- The Celtics have lacked both energy and aggressiveness in their last two games, both losses.  They have played sluggish, allowing their opponents to get the majority of the 50-50 balls.  They aren't aggressive in going to the boards and in boxing out.  They need to run and to play with energy for 48 minutes.  Anything less is unacceptable. 

X-Factors
Focus and Desire
The Celtics need to want this game.  They were embarrassed by first the Pistons and then the Bulls.  they need to play like they want it and stay focused on what it takes to get it. 
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: FLCeltsFan on February 19, 2012, 11:22:46 AM
Official Report 

Tom Washington
Over his 20-season NBA officiating career, Tom Washington has officiated 1,196+ regular season games, 103 playoff games and two Finals games. He was a member of the crew that officiated the 1995 Schick Rookie Game, the 1996 Japan
Games in Tokyo and the 2004 NBA All-Star Game. In addition to his 20 seasons with the NBA, Washington has two years of CBA officiating experience. He has one year collegiate officiating experience and five years of high school officiating experience in his hometown of Philadelphia. The Celtics are 1-1 this season with Washington on the court, with the loss being the Pacer game where the Celtics were called for 24 fouls compared to 18 for the Pacers. The win was the 87-56 Orlando beat down in which the Celtics took 19 free throws to 30 for the Magic. They are 9-1 over their last 10 games with Washington. The Pistons are 3-7 in their last 10 with Washington as a ref. His home W/L record this season is 15-9.

Brent Barnaky
Barnaky enters his second NBA season having officiated 60 NBA games. Barnaky came to the NBA with 10 years of collegiate officiating experience, including three years of N.I.T. Tournament play. He officiated the 2008, 2009 and 2010 NBA D-League Playoffs, and the 2009 and 2010 NBA D-League Finals. He entered the NBA last season as one of five refs chosen from the D-League to officiate a handful of games the previous season. Barnaky also has spent time training and developing other officials at referee camps. He has only officiated 4 games for the Celtics previously, 2 wins and 2 losses. The only game this season was the 79-71 loss to the Suns where the Suns took 16 free throws to 9 for the Celtics. He has called 7 Pistions games, 2 wins and 5 losses. His home W/L record this season is 11-9.

Sean Wright
Wright's first season in the league was 2005-06. Sean Wright has officiated 353 regular season and five playoff games in his six seasons. Prior to joining the NBA, Wright was an official in the NBA Development League where he participated in the playoffs in 2003-04 and the championship game in 2005. Wright’s collegiate officiating experience includes working in the SEC, Colonial, Big South, Southern,
Ohio Valley, Atlantic Sun and Southwestern Athletic Conferences. He participated in the Ohio Valley Conference championship in 2003 and the Men’s NCAA Division II tournament in 2004. He officiated the Eduardo Najera Foundation charity basketball game in 2006 and the Terrell Owens Foundation charity basketball game in 2005.  The Celtics are 6-4 in their last 10 with Wright on the court. He officiated a win over the Nets this season in which the Celtics took 21 free throws to 10 for the Nets. The Pistons are 5-5 in their last 10 games with Wright. His home W/L record this season is 14-10.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 19, 2012, 12:11:30 PM
Unless Paul Pierce can play like KOBE (with ENERGY and PURPOSE) or be a true million dollar alstar he is being paid yearly and KG has to at least play, then  it will be hard for us to win any game , even against the sucky teams. I predicted the loss at home to the Pistons. Without PP and KG playing decent ball, we are no more than doormat for 500+ teams.

I'm predicting a win

Hurry up Lottery.    

  
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: celtiberian on February 19, 2012, 04:32:51 PM
KG is playing at the level. He is not the problem, see him below compared vs Nowitzky and Tim Duncan.

KG: 28 g, 30.5 mpg, 49.5%, 7.8 rpg, 14.1 ppg, 2.7 apg, 1.1 bpg

DN: 27 g, 32.4 mpg, 45.4%, 6.3 rpg, 18.6 ppg, 2.3 apg, 0.6 bpg

TD: 30 g, 27.8 mpg, 46.7%, 8.6 rpg, 13.7 ppg, 2.7 apg, 1.4 bpg

There other three players: RA, PP and JO, whose mpg should be lowered. PP and RA are averaging around 35 mpg, they should be around 25 mpg. Taking more rest, and allowing younger legs to be more playing time and defending: Pietrus, Sasha, Daniels, even Bradley and Dooling for RA.

Flat out, JO has to go out of the starting line up. His playing time should be 15 mpg, instead of 25. CW should be the starting C, like in the game they won vs Bulls. CW started and played 26 minutes, made 11 points (5/6 shooting), grabbed 9 boards, blocked 1 shot, and had only 2 TO. JO should come from the bench as backup, but also GS should play not less time than JO, and eventually more, as long as he is regaining confidence.

I read minutes ago in other blog this proposed lineup to start, and I like it way more than the one Doc is sticking to:
Rondo, Moore (instead RA), PP, KG and CW (instead of JO).

However, whatever it is I hope Doc Rivers comes tonight with any lineup different than the recipe for disaster he sticking to so far.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: clover on February 19, 2012, 05:00:51 PM
No KG:

A. Sherrod Blakely @SherrodbCSN 
#Celticstalk The #Celtics don't expect him to rejoin the team in time for tomorrow's game at the #Mavs, either.

A. Sherrod Blakely @SherrodbCSN 
#Celticstalk The #Celtics will be without Kevin Garnett. He is not with the team due to a personal matter.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: kg is king on February 19, 2012, 05:08:26 PM
KG is playing at the level. He is not the problem, see him below compared vs Nowitzky and Tim Duncan.

KG: 28 g, 30.5 mpg, 49.5%, 7.8 rpg, 14.1 ppg, 2.7 apg, 1.1 bpg

DN: 27 g, 32.4 mpg, 45.4%, 6.3 rpg, 18.6 ppg, 2.3 apg, 0.6 bpg

TD: 30 g, 27.8 mpg, 46.7%, 8.6 rpg, 13.7 ppg, 2.7 apg, 1.4 bpg

There other three players: RA, PP and JO, whose mpg should be lowered. PP and RA are averaging around 35 mpg, they should be around 25 mpg. Taking more rest, and allowing younger legs to be more playing time and defending: Pietrus, Sasha, Daniels, even Bradley and Dooling for RA.

Flat out, JO has to go out of the starting line up. His playing time should be 15 mpg, instead of 25. CW should be the starting C, like in the game they won vs Bulls. CW started and played 26 minutes, made 11 points (5/6 shooting), grabbed 9 boards, blocked 1 shot, and had only 2 TO. JO should come from the bench as backup, but also GS should play not less time than JO, and eventually more, as long as he is regaining confidence.

I read minutes ago in other blog this proposed lineup to start, and I like it way more than the one Doc is sticking to:
Rondo, Moore (instead RA), PP, KG and CW (instead of JO).

However, whatever it is I hope Doc Rivers comes tonight with any lineup different than the recipe for disaster he sticking to so far.
35mpg is not too much for Ray and PP when we are desperately trying to hold onto our playoff spot. If Doc follows your suggestion and plays them 25 mpg, we can kiss goodbye to the possibility (no matter how slim) of our core making one last run.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: ACF on February 19, 2012, 05:22:02 PM
Unless Paul Pierce can play like KOBE (with ENERGY and PURPOSE) or be a true million dollar alstar he is being paid yearly and KG has to at least play, then  it will be hard for us to win any game , even against the sucky teams. I predicted the loss at home to the Pistons. Without PP and KG playing decent ball, we are no more than doormat for 500+ teams.

I'm predicting a win

Hurry up Lottery.    


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRik9erWgQ8




To you, FL: Another job well done. TP as always and GO CELTICS!
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Change on February 19, 2012, 05:36:33 PM
Celtics blowout win. It will eventually happen why not today!
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 19, 2012, 05:57:17 PM
Yup ..thats what I'm hoping, they see a undermaned tire old team drag into their house and don't think we can win.

Hope we open a "can" on them .
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: celtiberian on February 19, 2012, 06:02:47 PM
No KG:

A. Sherrod Blakely @SherrodbCSN 
#Celticstalk The #Celtics don't expect him to rejoin the team in time for tomorrow's game at the #Mavs, either.

A. Sherrod Blakely @SherrodbCSN 
#Celticstalk The #Celtics will be without Kevin Garnett. He is not with the team due to a personal matter.


Well, I don't think KG is who more needs bench time out the Big 3, but anyway this can be an opportunity for something positive if JJJ grabs the chance of playing big time. He has played well  a couple of times before, but it seems to be not enough for coach to give him more minutes. Tonight maybe his chance, Lin kind of chance.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 06:03:56 PM
No KG. Come on Doc surprise me! Wilcox and JJJ start.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Marcus13 on February 19, 2012, 06:10:31 PM
Good game to end the bad streak...against the team it started against
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Tgro on February 19, 2012, 06:10:56 PM
No KG! Ugh! I already feel down 10 points.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 06:11:33 PM
No KG. Come on Doc surprise me! Wilcox and JJJ start.

Stupid Doc. >:(
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Marcus13 on February 19, 2012, 06:12:58 PM
Jermaine starts games soo well, usually.  It's too bad he's done after six minutes or so
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on February 19, 2012, 06:13:04 PM
JO sighting!
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Marcus13 on February 19, 2012, 06:13:55 PM
[dang] you, Jermaine.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 06:16:25 PM
I hate Donny!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Marcus13 on February 19, 2012, 06:17:47 PM
Jermaine with three blocks so far.

I hate the Pistons announcers
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Kiorrik on February 19, 2012, 06:19:34 PM
Jermaine with three blocks so far.

I hate the Pistons announcers
Meh, there's far worse ones out there. Don't mind these that much.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Marcus13 on February 19, 2012, 06:20:09 PM
^^ veryy true.  There are some truly terrible duos in this league
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Kiorrik on February 19, 2012, 06:21:55 PM
Stuckey with a free-throw routine reminiscent of Rip's.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: makaveli on February 19, 2012, 06:22:24 PM
great start, ball moving
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: letsgoblue86 on February 19, 2012, 06:22:41 PM
I like the ball movement.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: European NBA fan on February 19, 2012, 06:22:50 PM
Hey, who's the new guy playing center? He reminds of someone...
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Kiorrik on February 19, 2012, 06:24:15 PM
Hey, who's the new guy playing center? He reminds of someone...
Didn't we have him in the preseason for a while as well?
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: ACF on February 19, 2012, 06:25:40 PM
Looking good so far.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Marcus13 on February 19, 2012, 06:26:38 PM
Jermaine is such an inaccurate passer.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Marcus13 on February 19, 2012, 06:27:41 PM
oooo we got away with one there.  Four blocks for JO!

...As Rondo messes up his fourth fast break of the quarter
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: letsgoblue86 on February 19, 2012, 06:28:14 PM
Rodney Stuckey gets A LOT of calls.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 19, 2012, 06:29:13 PM
I hate Donny!!!

As minority an opinion as this may be, I don't hate him. He adds insights that are different from Tommy and Mike -- he's a nice change of pace on the game broadcast.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 06:29:37 PM
Jermaine with three blocks so far.

I hate the Pistons announcers
Meh, there's far worse ones out there. Don't mind these that much.

I'll trade you guys 2 Piston's announcers for Donny. He's are ready letting the UConn love flow. Comparing Ben Gordon's body to an Olympic athlete.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Kiorrik on February 19, 2012, 06:30:22 PM
Horrirefs.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Kiorrik on February 19, 2012, 06:31:07 PM
Jermaine with three blocks so far.

I hate the Pistons announcers
Meh, there's far worse ones out there. Don't mind these that much.

I'll trade you guys 2 Piston's announcers for Donny. He's are ready letting the UConn love flow. Comparing Ben Gordon's body to an Olympic athlete.
Hah, good luck with that ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Marcus13 on February 19, 2012, 06:31:18 PM
Jermaine with three blocks so far.

I hate the Pistons announcers
Meh, there's far worse ones out there. Don't mind these that much.

I'll trade you guys 2 Piston's announcers for Donny. He's are ready letting the UConn love flow. Comparing Ben Gordon's body to an Olympic athlete.

Now that's funny.  I've never heard anyone say anything about Ben's conditioning one way or the other
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 19, 2012, 06:33:11 PM
Wilcox has some nice touch. 

If we had a ferocius rebounder, I'd be feeling resonably good about the talent level on this team.  Whether they'll put the offense together by May, who knows -- but I feel good about the talent and depth on this team with the exception of not having a beast on the boards.  Though probably not at Chicago/Miami level even with board presence.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: celticslove on February 19, 2012, 06:33:51 PM
it's frustrating watching this game, no ball movement whatsoever. also miss brandon bass
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Tgro on February 19, 2012, 06:34:10 PM
This game has a familiar look to it (lead and not be able to pull away).
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 06:36:29 PM
Steamer!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: j804 on February 19, 2012, 06:37:35 PM
They are just bullying us and punching us in the mouth this is disgusting to see.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 06:37:37 PM
I think these Celtic rotations lead to a lot of the rebounding problems.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Kiorrik on February 19, 2012, 06:37:42 PM
LOL They're playing the "He Got Game" theme song :]] hahaha
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: j804 on February 19, 2012, 06:38:28 PM
foul after foul after foul

we arent rebounding

this teams a joke
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Marcus13 on February 19, 2012, 06:39:01 PM
Remember when we used to be the "tough team" most nights?  That was fun
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: celticslove on February 19, 2012, 06:39:14 PM
LOL They're playing the "He Got Game" theme song :]] hahaha

i was looking for Jesus when i heard them play it. haha
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 06:39:56 PM
Steamer!!!

Big Time!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: European NBA fan on February 19, 2012, 06:42:14 PM
Steamer!!!

Big Time!!!

On the pick'n'roll. Has he ever done that in a Celtics uniform before? That would really add something to his offensive game.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: apc on February 19, 2012, 06:43:03 PM
wow, we are 65% from the filed. Pistons are 38%, and the game is tied...
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Marcus13 on February 19, 2012, 06:43:35 PM
Wow.  Look at all these scrubs on the floor at once.  It's like watching New Jersey-Toronto
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Fafnir on February 19, 2012, 06:44:07 PM
wow, we are 65% from the filed. Pistons are 38%, and the game is tied...
They have 5 more shots and have been to the line 9 more times!
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Marcus13 on February 19, 2012, 06:45:38 PM
Wow.  The sad part is all the close calls have been going our way too
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on February 19, 2012, 06:45:50 PM
Uh OH..WELCOME to MR STEAMERS NEIGHBORHOOD..Now get outta MY paint..! See what happens when steam gets the bal in the paint.DUNK....
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Kiorrik on February 19, 2012, 06:47:39 PM
Refs trying hard to keep us in the game. Wish they didn't.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on February 19, 2012, 06:47:46 PM
Steamer!!!

Big Time!!!
He has done it...but no one would pass to him..I say pass it to the man....make the other team pay...! He is more than just a shot blocker...Everyone on the floor shoud be involved in the teams offense..!

On the pick'n'roll. Has he ever done that in a Celtics uniform before? That would really add something to his offensive game.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Fafnir on February 19, 2012, 06:49:32 PM
Refs trying hard to keep us in the game. Wish they didn't.
Indeed its clear that the refs are favoring the Cs with Detroit shooting 13 more free throws, wait what?
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Marcus13 on February 19, 2012, 06:50:14 PM
What a stupid play by Dooling.  Why jump on top of him?
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Marcus13 on February 19, 2012, 06:50:46 PM
Refs trying hard to keep us in the game. Wish they didn't.
Indeed its clear that the refs are favoring the Cs with Detroit shooting 13 more free throws, wait what?

You get rewarded for playing aggressive.  The Celtics know nothing about that
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Fafnir on February 19, 2012, 06:50:58 PM
What a stupid play by Dooling.  Why jump on top of him?
Yeah, Dooling just isn't playing well at all lately.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: letsgoblue86 on February 19, 2012, 06:51:11 PM
These refs are horrid, our entire team is gonna foul out.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Marcus13 on February 19, 2012, 06:51:30 PM
In the penalty already?  Way to go, bench!
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: celticslove on February 19, 2012, 06:51:53 PM
refs whistle fest
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Marcus13 on February 19, 2012, 06:52:57 PM
ALL they're doing is taking the ball as hard as they can to the hoop and hoping for fouls.  [dang], just let them play out of control!  We're bailing them out over and over again
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Tgro on February 19, 2012, 06:54:10 PM
Celtics are the ones struggling to stay in the game....

....Not the Pistons.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 06:54:15 PM
How are the Celtics not down by 14? The whole Dooling/Bradley backcourt does not work. They go into hude droughts when those two bums are in there.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 06:56:01 PM
8:22 in the second. It will be the last time you don't see Rondo. As long as the game is close.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Marcus13 on February 19, 2012, 06:56:30 PM
Jesus....what a pathetic effort
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on February 19, 2012, 06:56:45 PM
What happened to my Celtics?

Who are these ghosts wearing green jerseys??

 ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: celticslove on February 19, 2012, 06:57:11 PM
wow rondo just wow
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: European NBA fan on February 19, 2012, 06:57:40 PM
Why do the refs blow their whistles on every single contact, unless it's JO?
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 06:58:31 PM
Doc get thrown out!!! It could only help.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 06:59:04 PM
Keyon Dooling stinks
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Fafnir on February 19, 2012, 06:59:08 PM
Doc isn't wrong, Wallace just walked into Pierce, never stopping and had an arm out and grabbed him.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: snively on February 19, 2012, 06:59:59 PM
Some generosity to the Pistons from the C's and the refs (10 TOs and 21 fts).
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: henr1k on February 19, 2012, 07:00:24 PM
15 fouls in 17 minutes, it has to be a record.

C's are shooting 60% from the field, down 9!  ???
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: JohnBagleyValueMeal on February 19, 2012, 07:00:44 PM
Jermaine O'Neal is quite possibly my least favorite Celtics player of all time. Ricky Davis was more fun to root for.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 07:00:58 PM
Doc isn't wrong, Wallace just walked into Pierce, never stopping and had an arm out and grabbed him.

To be fair, those screens look very similar to most KG screens.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Fafnir on February 19, 2012, 07:01:45 PM
Doc isn't wrong, Wallace just walked into Pierce, never stopping and had an arm out and grabbed him.

To be fair, those screens look very similar to most KG screens.
Not at all, KG sets moving screens but he doesn't use his arms like that.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: 2dark on February 19, 2012, 07:01:51 PM
I lnow we have "tougher" defence, but are we really 3 times as hard as Pistons to have 16-5 disparity? 22 to 6 in free thows as well, c'mon... I m not saying refs are doing it on purpose agains us, I m saying that these refs simply suck which is even worse.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on February 19, 2012, 07:01:52 PM
15 fouls in 17 minutes, it has to be a record.

C's are shooting 60% from the field, down 9!  ???

Yep, because they just stopped shooting.
It's been awhile now.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 07:02:14 PM
So our best low post offensive player is Rondo?
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on February 19, 2012, 07:03:14 PM
15 fouls in 17 minutes, it has to be a record.

C's are shooting 60% from the field, down 9!  ???

Yep, because they just stopped shooting.
It's been awhile now.
2nd: 6 TO's, 1 FG made
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Fafnir on February 19, 2012, 07:03:24 PM
And Ben does it again, just grabs a guy then runs to the rim hard and flails when bumped.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Tgro on February 19, 2012, 07:03:58 PM
Its The Celtics vs The Pistons and the Refs.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Fafnir on February 19, 2012, 07:04:04 PM
Finally a good set results in quality look, make em!
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: clover on February 19, 2012, 07:04:11 PM
On a rebound-starved team, Stiemer is leading the C's with 4 in 6 minutes of play--and tied as the rebound leader in the game overall.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Kiorrik on February 19, 2012, 07:05:05 PM
This game looks like a really, really good example of how NOT to ref an NBA game.

The refs seem to be making up for their own bad calls on the very next play, resulting in stupid call after stupid call.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Fafnir on February 19, 2012, 07:05:19 PM
Lazy transition there.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 07:06:43 PM
Doc must really be teaching boxing out on defense at practice. I can see the results. :P
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 19, 2012, 07:06:58 PM
Either the C's are playing with 4 guys or the other teams are playing 6.  We just seem 1 player short all the time lately.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Tgro on February 19, 2012, 07:09:50 PM
Either the C's are playing with 4 guys or the other teams are playing 6.  We just seem 1 player short all the time lately.

Like a KG.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on February 19, 2012, 07:10:34 PM
Tooo bad to watch, this is a shame.

Let's not make excuses yelling at refs.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 07:11:25 PM
The offense is horrendous
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 07:12:00 PM
Ray Allen-15 minutes-0 points
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: hpantazo on February 19, 2012, 07:12:37 PM
is Jerebko Heinson's illegitimate child?
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 07:13:57 PM
KG or no KG, this is a mediocre team going nowhere. Can't wait until the offseason. Imagine if the Pistons hadn't missed 13 free throws tonight?
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Kiorrik on February 19, 2012, 07:14:15 PM
Ray Allen-15 minutes-0 points
Not like he didn't get the touches.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: henr1k on February 19, 2012, 07:15:45 PM
This is so painful to watch.
Pistons are a bad team and they should be up 20 by now (they missed 12 ft).

C's have 13 turnovers, 10 offensive rebounds allowed. And it's not even a halftime.
Rondo is again in 'i don't care' mode. Reckless passing..I guess he plays well only when the game is on TNT. So sick..

But the best thing is that we can still win this.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 07:16:40 PM
You don't get to the line when almost every shot is a jump shot. On another note, am I the only one who sees dysfunction on this team?
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Swoopz on February 19, 2012, 07:19:31 PM
We're gonna come back and win by double digits, heard it here first.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on February 19, 2012, 07:19:59 PM
You don't get to the line when almost every shot is a jump shot. On another note, am I the only one who sees dysfunction on this team?

I really think something broke in the locker room, they're playing like Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. and nobody seems to care.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Kiorrik on February 19, 2012, 07:20:17 PM
You don't get to the line when almost every shot is a jump shot. On another note, am I the only one who sees dysfunction on this team?
Hah. You're not that special m8 ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Tgro on February 19, 2012, 07:20:49 PM
Tooo bad to watch, this is a shame.

Let's not make excuses yelling at refs.

Okay, they're playing bad. Got it.

But 29-10???

Give me a break! Save that remark for one where its like 20-12.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on February 19, 2012, 07:20:54 PM
PP and RR don't get along for sure..
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: apc on February 19, 2012, 07:21:20 PM
11:3 offensive rebounds. embarrassing
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 19, 2012, 07:21:36 PM
C's were beaten terribly in that half.  C's were awful and Detroit exectuted their game plan very well.  13-5 turnovers.  Pistons take a 13 point lead while missing 12 free throws. I don't see how the C's come back to win this, but I'll be rooting as always.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on February 19, 2012, 07:22:35 PM
Tooo bad to watch, this is a shame.

Let's not make excuses yelling at refs.

Okay, they're playing bad. Got it.

But 29-10???

Give me a break! Save that remark for one where its like 20-12.

You can translate that: horrendous D, even worst O.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Tgro on February 19, 2012, 07:23:36 PM
Tooo bad to watch, this is a shame.

Let's not make excuses yelling at refs.

Okay, they're playing bad. Got it.

But 29-10???

Give me a break! Save that remark for one where its like 20-12.

 
You can translate that: horrendous D, even worst O.

Genius!
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 07:24:01 PM
Tooo bad to watch, this is a shame.

Let's not make excuses yelling at refs.

Okay, they're playing bad. Got it.

But 29-10???

Give me a break! Save that remark for one where its like 20-12.
29-10 is ridiculous, but the Celts never get to the line because they rarely drive to the hoop. Sometimes they play like the players don't even know each other.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: PosImpos on February 19, 2012, 07:24:20 PM
This team is begging to be broken up.  Fire sale at the trade deadline.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 07:24:35 PM
Tooo bad to watch, this is a shame.

Let's not make excuses yelling at refs.

Okay, they're playing bad. Got it.

But 29-10???

Give me a break! Save that remark for one where its like 20-12.

I can tell you Ray Allen is not going to drive and get fouled. He has become that Novak kid on the Knicks. He's a 3 point specialist that makes less than $1 million a year.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: European NBA fan on February 19, 2012, 07:25:13 PM
This is so painful to watch.
Pistons are a bad team and they should be up 20 by now (they missed 12 ft).

C's have 13 turnovers, 10 offensive rebounds allowed. And it's not even a halftime.
Rondo is again in 'i don't care' mode. Reckless passing..I guess he plays well only when the game is on TNT. So sick..

But the best thing is that we can still win this.

I think that you are wrong about Rondo. He might not be playing good, but he has been trying to get everybody involved on offense (as the doctor ordered).
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on February 19, 2012, 07:25:38 PM
Pierce has 10 points on 4-5 shooting why not shoot more?!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on February 19, 2012, 07:26:01 PM
Tooo bad to watch, this is a shame.

Let's not make excuses yelling at refs.

Okay, they're playing bad. Got it.

But 29-10???

Give me a break! Save that remark for one where its like 20-12.

 
You can translate that: horrendous D, even worst O.

Genius!

I'm just frustrated..  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Tgro on February 19, 2012, 07:26:32 PM
Tooo bad to watch, this is a shame.

Let's not make excuses yelling at refs.

Okay, they're playing bad. Got it.

But 29-10???

Give me a break! Save that remark for one where its like 20-12.

 
You can translate that: horrendous D, even worst O.

Genius!

I'm just frustrated..  ::)

Me too!  :'(
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Kiorrik on February 19, 2012, 07:27:40 PM
I wonder if Rondo would be the type of guy to request a trade :]
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Original Creation on February 19, 2012, 07:27:59 PM
Kind of depressing watching this team after an afternoon filled with elite players and inspired performances.  The Celtics have the vim and vigor of a wet rag right now.  

Is there a worse offense in the NBA?  Is there, really?

I'm a Rondo backer, but I'm nearly at my boiling point with him.  He's a zero factor when it comes time to run a set.  He can't shoot and spends more time pounding the ball into the floor.  Or making a dumb pass.  

This team is cooked.  If I were Doc, I'd get my second tech and go watch the Duke game...
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on February 19, 2012, 07:28:10 PM
Tooo bad to watch, this is a shame.

Let's not make excuses yelling at refs.

Okay, they're playing bad. Got it.

But 29-10???

Give me a break! Save that remark for one where its like 20-12.

 
You can translate that: horrendous D, even worst O.

Genius!

I'm just frustrated..  ::)

Me too!  :'(

TP for you! Yeah!!  ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 07:29:03 PM
How have the Knicks won 8 out of 9, missing Melo for all of those games and Amar'e for 5? How does San Antonio have such a good record missing their best player for half the season? How do other teams seem able to suck it up and win without their stars?
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Tgro on February 19, 2012, 07:30:33 PM
Tooo bad to watch, this is a shame.

Let's not make excuses yelling at refs.

Okay, they're playing bad. Got it.

But 29-10???

Give me a break! Save that remark for one where its like 20-12.

 
You can translate that: horrendous D, even worst O.

Genius!

I'm just frustrated..  ::)

Me too!  :'(

TP for you! Yeah!!  ;)

Back at you! Rough 1st half...

We'll be okay.

I guess.... :-\
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Original Creation on February 19, 2012, 07:31:07 PM
How have the Knicks won 8 out of 9, missing Melo for all of those games and Amar'e for 5? How does San Antonio have such a good record missing their best player for half the season? How do other teams seem able to suck it up and win without their stars?
They have a PG who can not only make plays but hit a 3pt shot.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on February 19, 2012, 07:31:25 PM
How have the Knicks won 8 out of 9, missing Melo for all of those games and Amar'e for 5? How does San Antonio have such a good record missing their best player for half the season? How do other teams seem able to suck it up and win without their stars?

We actually had our best streak with Rondo and a bunch of other players out..

Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 07:32:30 PM
How have the Knicks won 8 out of 9, missing Melo for all of those games and Amar'e for 5? How does San Antonio have such a good record missing their best player for half the season? How do other teams seem able to suck it up and win without their stars?

We actually had our best streak with Rondo and a bunch of other players out..



But they can't win without KG or Pierce.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: PosImpos on February 19, 2012, 07:32:55 PM
So glad Im not watching this game.  Celtics are so depressing this season.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on February 19, 2012, 07:33:38 PM
My brotha was askin me if we played yesterday since we looked so sluggish I told him we aint play since Thursday. its no excuse for this lack of effort nd sloppy play this is disgusting nd I'ma optimist
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: PosImpos on February 19, 2012, 07:34:10 PM
How have the Knicks won 8 out of 9, missing Melo for all of those games and Amar'e for 5? How does San Antonio have such a good record missing their best player for half the season? How do other teams seem able to suck it up and win without their stars?

We actually had our best streak with Rondo and a bunch of other players out..



But they can't win without KG or Pierce.


Kg and Pierce are our most important players on defense and offense, respectively.

Also are team is awful on offense which makes every game a struggle unless the opponent is truly repugnantly bad.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Original Creation on February 19, 2012, 07:34:44 PM
How have the Knicks won 8 out of 9, missing Melo for all of those games and Amar'e for 5? How does San Antonio have such a good record missing their best player for half the season? How do other teams seem able to suck it up and win without their stars?

We actually had our best streak with Rondo and a bunch of other players out..



But they can't win without KG or Pierce.
Coincidence that Pierce played the best basketball he's played in several years when Rondo was out injured?  And the team's offense actually looked NBA worthy...
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Tgro on February 19, 2012, 07:34:52 PM
So glad Im not watching this game.  Celtics are so depressing this season.

Oh man, you're missing all our Centers getting lots of fouls! You'll be sorry you missed that.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 19, 2012, 07:35:02 PM
How have the Knicks won 8 out of 9, missing Melo for all of those games and Amar'e for 5? How does San Antonio have such a good record missing their best player for half the season? How do other teams seem able to suck it up and win without their stars?

Well, the C's were 9 of 10 with Rondo out for most of those games.  Bottom line though is that it seems that SA is just a better team right now.  Knicks are hot and may/ may not keep it going after Melo returns.  Bottom line is that the C's seem like a team that will go through good and bad stretches if the team is not broken up.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on February 19, 2012, 07:36:50 PM
How have the Knicks won 8 out of 9, missing Melo for all of those games and Amar'e for 5? How does San Antonio have such a good record missing their best player for half the season? How do other teams seem able to suck it up and win without their stars?

We actually had our best streak with Rondo and a bunch of other players out..



But they can't win without KG or Pierce.

Agree 100%.

KG is still the heart and soul of this team, and it's not casual that PP stood out when Rondo was out.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 19, 2012, 07:36:51 PM
This team is begging to be broken up.  Fire sale at the trade deadline.

Maybe -- but probably will only be broken up if DA gets good value, not fire sale value. 
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 07:37:59 PM
How have the Knicks won 8 out of 9, missing Melo for all of those games and Amar'e for 5? How does San Antonio have such a good record missing their best player for half the season? How do other teams seem able to suck it up and win without their stars?

We actually had our best streak with Rondo and a bunch of other players out..



But they can't win without KG or Pierce.
Coincidence that Pierce played the best basketball he's played in several years when Rondo was out injured?  And the team's offense actually looked NBA worthy...

This is Rondo's team now. Pierce needs to fill a lane and run. Also, moving a bit in the half court could help too.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: PosImpos on February 19, 2012, 07:38:32 PM
This team is begging to be broken up.  Fire sale at the trade deadline.

Maybe -- but probably will only be broken up if DA gets good value, not fire sale value. 

If they keep up these dejected performances, I wouldnt rule it out.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: bfrombleacher on February 19, 2012, 07:38:59 PM
How have the Knicks won 8 out of 9, missing Melo for all of those games and Amar'e for 5? How does San Antonio have such a good record missing their best player for half the season? How do other teams seem able to suck it up and win without their stars?

We actually had our best streak with Rondo and a bunch of other players out..



I think that's just a testament to Doc's crappy rotations. Yup, I'm really not liking what Doc's been doing.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: green7 on February 19, 2012, 07:39:40 PM
doc should sit ray and bring in bradley
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on February 19, 2012, 07:39:47 PM
How have the Knicks won 8 out of 9, missing Melo for all of those games and Amar'e for 5? How does San Antonio have such a good record missing their best player for half the season? How do other teams seem able to suck it up and win without their stars?


We actually had our best streak with Rondo and a bunch of other players out..



But they can't win without KG or Pierce.
Coincidence that Pierce played the best basketball he's played in several years when Rondo was out injured?  And the team's offense actually looked NBA worthy...

This is Rondo's team now. Pierce needs to fill a lane and run. Also, moving a bit in the half court could help too.

I don't think Rondo is a leader, and I think he'll never be. I would never start a rebuilding process around him.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 07:39:58 PM
Pierce = 1 on 4
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Kiorrik on February 19, 2012, 07:40:38 PM
2 feet in the circle. We got lucky on that charge call :x
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: popcontest on February 19, 2012, 07:41:10 PM
I really love Greg Monroe's game. I've only ever been impressed.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 07:41:46 PM
JO is having one of his two or three good games he gives you every 10 or so
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 07:42:08 PM
I think this Monroe kid is better than Big AL.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 19, 2012, 07:42:36 PM
Turnovers and giving up O-rebounds are driving me out of my mind.

Nice 3.  Ray and Paul need to get scorching hot.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: snively on February 19, 2012, 07:42:54 PM
Ray's defense has been pretty awful this season.  Stuckey just lights up whenever he sees him covering him.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: snively on February 19, 2012, 07:43:42 PM
I think this Monroe kid is better than Big AL.

Very similar.  Monroe the better passer, but they look similarly weak defensively. 
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 07:45:13 PM
Our 3 on 2 fast breaks always end in a 3 pt shot.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Kiorrik on February 19, 2012, 07:46:25 PM
You can try blaming Rondo for pounding the ball but if none of the other C's move on offense, he's not going to be able to do anything.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 07:47:18 PM
Pitiful rebounding.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 19, 2012, 07:47:49 PM
Game is changing.  Good D and Ray hot.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: European NBA fan on February 19, 2012, 07:47:59 PM
Our 3 on 2 fast breaks always end in a 3 pt shot.

When it's a wide open 3 for Ray or Pierce, I think that it's better than a contested layup.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 19, 2012, 07:48:48 PM
Nice offensive board by JO
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 07:49:06 PM
Looking really good this quarter. Big question is can they do it for more than one period?
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: ManUp on February 19, 2012, 07:49:16 PM
JO sucks, that should've been an easy finish on that play. Don't know if they counted the shot though.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 07:49:44 PM
Our 3 on 2 fast breaks always end in a 3 pt shot.

When it's a wide open 3 for Ray or Pierce, I think that it's better than a contested layup.


If they miss and they do, it is an easy fast break the other way.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Kiorrik on February 19, 2012, 07:50:00 PM
JO sucks
... he has one of his best games this year, and he sucks?
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: bfrombleacher on February 19, 2012, 07:50:55 PM
I see why people want Pietrus to start over Ray and I'm actually leaning towards endorsing that now. Its not a knock on Ray, its the fact of life that we've all come to know very well - aging.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 07:51:14 PM
Jumper after jumper after jumper
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: PosImpos on February 19, 2012, 07:51:23 PM
Looking really good this quarter. Big question is can they do it for more than one period?

Dont count on it.  If they cut it close I would expect yet another 4th quarter meltdown.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: popcontest on February 19, 2012, 07:51:52 PM
Ok -- that's a goaltend.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Kiorrik on February 19, 2012, 07:52:37 PM
Ok -- that's a goaltend.
Close, but it seemed like, a WEE bit over the apex.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 07:52:46 PM
Wow. 14 missed free throws. Thankfully the Pistons stink, or this would be a blowout.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 07:52:53 PM
Jumper after jumper after jumper

Our two best low post players are Rondo and Marquis. :'(
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Tgro on February 19, 2012, 07:53:12 PM
This 2nd half looks familiar...
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 19, 2012, 07:53:19 PM
Well, that might have just been the most frusrated stretch.  Got back in the game.  JO misses 2 FTs and C's squander 3 scoring opportunities. 
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: ManUp on February 19, 2012, 07:54:19 PM
Greg Monroe is a very promising player.

Pistons are lucky.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 07:54:21 PM
Ray getting hot. Usually Ben Gordon tries to match.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 07:56:00 PM
Celts need to turn the ball over more. Donny Marshall is really a bad color guy. I can't stand him.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 19, 2012, 07:56:02 PM
Turnovers. Wow.  Just awful.  Pistons back to their pace.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: ManUp on February 19, 2012, 07:56:59 PM
That was a good block by JO.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on February 19, 2012, 07:57:05 PM
2nd TO by Rondo off an inbound..  :-[
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 07:58:01 PM
I love this team. I'll watch every game. But I will not make excuses for them. It's not the refs or the injuries. They are too old and flat out stink.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 07:58:36 PM
Honestly, they really don't seem to care that much.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 19, 2012, 07:58:41 PM
How many missed shots in a row? After making a nice run -- unreal.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: GronkSpike on February 19, 2012, 08:00:05 PM
Wow Rondo.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Marcus13 on February 19, 2012, 08:00:33 PM
I wish I could see what he just got ejected for

Nice camera work
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 08:00:39 PM
Rondo really didn't show up today anyway, so he can reat for tomorrow night's game
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: bostonman1 on February 19, 2012, 08:00:53 PM
Nice to see the Celtics come out strong after a horrific 2nd quarter offensively and follow it up with this effort  :'(
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 08:00:54 PM
Rondo get some early rest. We'll need you tomorrow.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on February 19, 2012, 08:01:32 PM
Ok, now play some Moore please..
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: ManUp on February 19, 2012, 08:02:30 PM
Pierce takes over our offense improves and we win?
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 08:02:31 PM
Can they just call it after 3. Rondo going to get a little fine for that act.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: apc on February 19, 2012, 08:02:42 PM
bottomless pit
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: nicknorman on February 19, 2012, 08:03:11 PM
lets hope Rondo plays tomorrow.  They don't like when you throw balls at refs.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on February 19, 2012, 08:03:28 PM
No this dude Rondo did not really just throw the ball at the ref smh
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 08:04:12 PM
Avery Bradley is so bad handling the ball. It is painful. They have quit. This team is a disgrace.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Tgro on February 19, 2012, 08:04:25 PM
Why did I find it funny? It made me laugh!
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 08:04:40 PM
Over or under 75 points for the Celtics?
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: CelticSooner on February 19, 2012, 08:05:02 PM
To bad JO didn't get thrown out so we wouldn't have to see him miss bunnies all game long.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on February 19, 2012, 08:05:04 PM
PLAY ETWAN MOORE  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 08:05:39 PM
Some day  Rondo will grow up.  Not sure when. 17 missed free throws and pistons still up 14 points.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: bostonman1 on February 19, 2012, 08:05:50 PM
Rondo just taking the easy way out.  Now people can use the excuse for this loss that 'if Rondo was playing the Celtics would have come back in the 4th quarter and pulled out a victory'
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: traderondo on February 19, 2012, 08:06:06 PM
Pierce takes over our offense improves and we win?

My thought exactly
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: European NBA fan on February 19, 2012, 08:06:46 PM
What has Moore done, since he doesn't get any playing time?
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on February 19, 2012, 08:06:55 PM
Over or under 75 points for the Celtics?
smh man idek I was hopin we brough back Pierce to be a point forward so the offense can run smoother but we got tht game in dallas tomorrow
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 08:07:45 PM
PLAY ETWAN MOORE  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

No way!!! Got to play Doc's main man Dooling. :'( You know he is a vet.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: apc on February 19, 2012, 08:07:52 PM
Avery Bradley is so bad handling the ball. It is painful. They have quit. This team is a disgrace.
AB is not a point guard. he can defend point guards but that doesn't make him one.
don't know what he is.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Original Creation on February 19, 2012, 08:08:30 PM
They've missed more FTs than we've taken.  

But, we do nothing but shoot jumpers, so that's what we get.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Tgro on February 19, 2012, 08:09:53 PM
Lets hope we at least keep them under 100 because that streak appears to be in jeopardy (looking for bright sides here).
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: OsirusCeltics on February 19, 2012, 08:13:19 PM
Rondo is killing and stagnating the offense
But no one wants to admit it
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on February 19, 2012, 08:14:01 PM
Steam...and let me tell you...shot blocking is NOT easy.....Steam still not getting ANY paint passes...! He can finish.......
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: WeMadeIt17 on February 19, 2012, 08:14:31 PM
Can't watch the game but see they are losing to pistons again! What happened to rondo
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on February 19, 2012, 08:14:47 PM
duh..pp had steam WAITING or a pass..and pp blew it...charging on pp...hog....
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 08:15:00 PM
Bradley is as bad offensively as he is good on defense
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: traderondo on February 19, 2012, 08:17:03 PM
Avery Bradley is so bad handling the ball. It is painful. They have quit. This team is a disgrace.
AB is not a point guard. he can defend point guards but that doesn't make him one.
don't know what he is.

I think that can be said about more than one player
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on February 19, 2012, 08:17:43 PM
I HATE when Ray Allen tries to be a play maker stick to being a shooter [dang it]
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Kiorrik on February 19, 2012, 08:18:48 PM
Indiana hammering Charlotte right now. 108 - 67.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on February 19, 2012, 08:19:50 PM
Lets hope we at least keep them under 100 because that streak appears to be in jeopardy (looking for bright sides here).
they're shooting 36% our defense aint tht bad but we cnt rebound to save our lives
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: celticslove on February 19, 2012, 08:20:17 PM
these Boston team is as bad as the detroit announcers covering the game.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: European NBA fan on February 19, 2012, 08:21:08 PM
Some day  Rondo will grow up.  Not sure when.  

Maybe Rondo will learn something from getting a fine and probably a suspension.

I don't what is behind his frustrations. I believe that he tried to play the game "the right way" today, and it didn't work. As I believe you and several others have said, this team is dysfunctional right now. And Rondo is part of that.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: letsgoblue86 on February 19, 2012, 08:21:15 PM
We stink. So do these refs.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: bostonman1 on February 19, 2012, 08:21:47 PM
Sad state of affairs for the Celtics in being soundly beaten by the AWFUL Detroit Pistons twice in one week.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: SDceltics on February 19, 2012, 08:22:32 PM
cant watch this anymore
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 08:22:41 PM
Doc, how many times has small ball worked?
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 08:22:58 PM
Sad state of affairs for the Celtics in being soundly beaten by the AWFUL Detroit Pistons twice in one week.

I just don't get how anyone thinks this team can contend.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on February 19, 2012, 08:23:51 PM
Sad state of affairs for the Celtics in being soundly beaten by the AWFUL Detroit Pistons twice in one week.

I just don't get how anyone thinks this team can contend.
Who said this? lol
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 08:24:44 PM
Steam...and let me tell you...shot blocking is NOT easy.....Steam still not getting ANY paint passes...! He can finish.......

Doc really hates our boy!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: green7 on February 19, 2012, 08:25:04 PM
and this team should not blow it up? lol
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: satch on February 19, 2012, 08:25:21 PM
Looks like PP is in for another 38 minute night. If his buddy Toine was still around he would get 30 plus minutes. The only way doc cuts JO minutes would be to resign mark blount.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: bostonman1 on February 19, 2012, 08:26:06 PM
Sad state of affairs for the Celtics in being soundly beaten by the AWFUL Detroit Pistons twice in one week.

I just don't get how anyone thinks this team can contend.

Remember when the prideful Celtics would lose to a bad team then completely destroy them the next time they played?  I miss those days...
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: CelticSooner on February 19, 2012, 08:26:37 PM
Doc, how many times has small ball worked?

Small ball never works. Doc is so fascinated with it though.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: green7 on February 19, 2012, 08:27:42 PM
tom defense got the c's to the finals twice & also perk

without those two this team is average
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 08:28:00 PM
Please take Pierce out of this game
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: popcontest on February 19, 2012, 08:28:45 PM
We do miss Brandon Bass...
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Tgro on February 19, 2012, 08:29:41 PM
Looks like we conceded with 5 minutes to go.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: ManUp on February 19, 2012, 08:30:00 PM
I really do wish we'd blow it up. Watching a young team struggle and lose is a lot more interesting than watching an over the hill team do the same. My dad is saying this team is too old and he doesn't even watch basketball.  ::)

Sorry for the negativity I just couldn't hold it, today.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: green7 on February 19, 2012, 08:31:40 PM
I really do wish we'd blow it up. Watching a young team struggle and improve is a lot more interesting than watching an over the hill team do the same. My dad is saying this team is too old and he doesn't even watch basketball.  ::)


agreed trade before the march deadline + draft smart. sign 2 star free agents & decent role players
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 08:33:03 PM
Maybe a Rondo suspension will smarten him up.  Plus, he may have been simply throwing the ball back to the ref, but it was a fastball and the ref wasn't ready. Not going to listen to Tommy's moronic histrionics after  the game.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Q_FBE on February 19, 2012, 08:33:32 PM
I wish they  had never started the season. They were not prepared and knew from the start that this team could not compete. Look for Danny to make changes. Big changes. Just don't take back any horrible contracts. Well I suppose we could amnesty somebody. The Celtics are simply atrocious right now. If this were Belechick and the NFL, everyone would be cut right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: jpd985 on February 19, 2012, 08:33:46 PM
I really do wish we'd blow it up. Watching a young team struggle and improve is a lot more interesting than watching an over the hill team do the same. My dad is saying this team is too old and he doesn't even watch basketball.  ::)


agreed trade before the march deadline + draft smart. sign 2 star free agents & decent role players

I think this team getting the 8th seed is a lofty goal.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: WeMadeIt17 on February 19, 2012, 08:34:00 PM
Wow cant believe the celtics hit the wall like this so fast definitely need to make a move and if you don't think so then your crazy
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: apc on February 19, 2012, 08:34:14 PM
Steam...and let me tell you...shot blocking is NOT easy.....Steam still not getting ANY paint passes...! He can finish.......

Doc really hates our boy!!!
and i really hate Doc.
ok, maybe not hate, just not impressed with his coaching skills.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: kg is king on February 19, 2012, 08:34:22 PM
Blow it up, blow it up, that's all I see and hear. Blowing it up will happen, just not during the season. No one wants our old players. If you are the GM of any NBA team, would you trade away your promising young prospects for our old players?

Let the contracts expire at the end of the season and then we'll restart next year.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Tgro on February 19, 2012, 08:34:32 PM
Maybe a Rondo suspension will smarten him up.

Or a new team.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: ManUp on February 19, 2012, 08:35:32 PM
Blow it up, blow it up, that's all I see and hear. Blowing it up will happen, just not during the season. No one wants our old players. If you are the GM of any NBA team, would you trade away your promising young prospects for our old players?

Let the contracts expire at the end of the season and then we'll restart next year.

True, I do realize this which is what makes it even more frustrating.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: RajonRondo9Dime on February 19, 2012, 08:36:34 PM
If I was Rondo I'd feel the same way.

"Oh the team played better without you."

"Oh, you need to stop scoring so much at such an efficient level, be a facilitator."

Well, he did that, and had 8 assists and only 4 shots tonight before the ejection.. And we were getting rolled by the Pistons.

Sooo If the team is so much better without Rondo.. Why did they get run out of the gym when he left..? Why weren't we winning when he wasn't shooting...?

Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 08:37:51 PM
Are you kidding me? 40 points off turnovers.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 08:38:26 PM
Steam...and let me tell you...shot blocking is NOT easy.....Steam still not getting ANY paint passes...! He can finish.......

Doc really hates our boy!!!
and i really hate Doc.
ok, maybe not hate, just not impressed with his coaching skills.

A lot of people thought KC Jones and Bill Fitch were below average coaches too. They both won championships because they were coaching Larry Bird and gang.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: j804 on February 19, 2012, 08:39:47 PM
This team is a joke and how embarrassing is it that Paul Pierce does not even deserve to be an All Star.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: vinnie on February 19, 2012, 08:40:00 PM
24 turnovers. This team just doesn't care.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: RajonRondo9Dime on February 19, 2012, 08:40:13 PM
Steam...and let me tell you...shot blocking is NOT easy.....Steam still not getting ANY paint passes...! He can finish.......

Doc really hates our boy!!!
and i really hate Doc.
ok, maybe not hate, just not impressed with his coaching skills.

A lot of people thought KC Jones and Bill Fitch were below average coaches too. They both won championships because they had were coaching Larry Bird and gang.

Isn't it crazy how coaches need good players to win!?
Nobody was Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ing about Rivers' coaching job in 2008,09, or even 10 when we made the finals..

Now, with a bunch of old stiffs, we are losing, and Doc gets some blame. lol.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: bostonman1 on February 19, 2012, 08:40:15 PM
If I was Rondo I'd feel the same way.

"Oh the team played better without you."

"Oh, you need to stop scoring so much at such an efficient level, be a facilitator."

Well, he did that, and had 8 assists and only 4 shots tonight before the ejection.. And we were getting rolled by the Pistons.

Sooo If the team is so much better without Rondo.. Why did they get run out of the gym when he left..? Why weren't we winning when he wasn't shooting...?



Unless Rondo got more stats after his ejection it was 10 assists and 1-6 shooting.  Also a terrible 6 TO's...
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on February 19, 2012, 08:41:08 PM
Maybe a Rondo suspension will smarten him up.  Plus, he may have been simply throwing the ball back to the ref, but it was a fastball and the ref wasn't ready. Not going to listen to Tommy's moronic histrionics after  the game.
nah i saw it on the Pistons feed he cussed at the ref then flung it at him he's gonna eat a suspension tomorrow nd I wouldnt be surprised if the Pierce point forward offense has us in a close game tomorrow against the mavs
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: PosImpos on February 19, 2012, 08:41:36 PM
Are you kidding me? 40 points off turnovers.


No excuse for that.  Just a complete and utter lack of focus / effort.

Performances like this one bring into question Doc's ability to keep this team in check.  I think Doc is greatly overrated, at least as a regular season coach (developing young players and keeping veterans interested).
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Original Creation on February 19, 2012, 08:42:03 PM
If I was Rondo I'd feel the same way.

"Oh the team played better without you."

"Oh, you need to stop scoring so much at such an efficient level, be a facilitator."

Well, he did that, and had 8 assists and only 4 shots tonight before the ejection.. And we were getting rolled by the Pistons.

Sooo If the team is so much better without Rondo.. Why did they get run out of the gym when he left..? Why weren't we winning when he wasn't shooting...?


You don't really think Rondo reads this message board, do you?

Furthermore, he had 6 turnovers tonight.  Regardless of whether he's setting up teammates or being aggressive, he's a consistent TO factory.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: bostonman1 on February 19, 2012, 08:42:12 PM
24 turnovers. This team just doesn't care.

Where is everyone who was preaching patience earlier in the season?  Now the season is almost halfway over the easiest part of the schedule is behind the Celtics   :-X
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: RajonRondo9Dime on February 19, 2012, 08:42:31 PM
If I was Rondo I'd feel the same way.

"Oh the team played better without you."

"Oh, you need to stop scoring so much at such an efficient level, be a facilitator."

Well, he did that, and had 8 assists and only 4 shots tonight before the ejection.. And we were getting rolled by the Pistons.

Sooo If the team is so much better without Rondo.. Why did they get run out of the gym when he left..? Why weren't we winning when he wasn't shooting...?



Unless Rondo got more stats after his ejection it was 10 assists and 1-6 shooting.  Also a terrible 6 TO's...

ESPN was slow to update his box score I guess.. Even so, he's not the reason the team is losing.


ESPN was slow to update his box score I guess.. Even so, he's not the reason the team is losing.

Lin is averaging a million TOs a game, and people are praising him. Rondo had 3 combined TOs against Chicago and Detroit (first meeting), our last 2 games before tonight. Yeah, a real turn over machine.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Tgro on February 19, 2012, 08:43:54 PM
24 turnovers. This team just doesn't care.

Where is everyone who was preaching patience earlier in the season?  Now the season is almost halfway over the easiest part of the schedule is behind the Celtics   :-X

Those people (who I am one of them) thought the Celtics would be better than 15-15 right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Kiorrik on February 19, 2012, 08:43:56 PM
Please mind the language, people.

We don't want the language filter to over-heat ;)

Keep it clean please.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: PosImpos on February 19, 2012, 08:44:27 PM
Please mind the language, people.

We don't want the language filter to over-heat.

Is that actually something that could happen?

:P
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Chief on February 19, 2012, 08:45:06 PM
Steam...and let me tell you...shot blocking is NOT easy.....Steam still not getting ANY paint passes...! He can finish.......

Doc really hates our boy!!!
and i really hate Doc.
ok, maybe not hate, just not impressed with his coaching skills.

A lot of people thought KC Jones and Bill Fitch were below average coaches too. They both won championships because they had were coaching Larry Bird and gang.

Isn't it crazy how coaches need good players to win!?
Nobody was ****ing about Rivers' coaching job in 2008,09, or even 10 when we made the finals..

Now, with a bunch of old stiffs, we are losing, and Doc gets some blame. lol.

I don't think Doc has had muck luck, record wise, coaching young players. I think Danny and Co. knew this when they offered him a new deal. That is why I assume we won't rebuild with the draft. We'll see Danny trade picks and players for new pieces.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: PosImpos on February 19, 2012, 08:46:23 PM
Rondo 1-6 with 6 TOs against the porous Detroit defense.


How can people scoff at the notion that he's incredibly inconsistent?

How can a player capable of awe-inspiring triple doubles put in performances like this one.

The way he vacillates between superstar and borderline-starter level role player is maddening.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: PosImpos on February 19, 2012, 08:47:54 PM
Steam...and let me tell you...shot blocking is NOT easy.....Steam still not getting ANY paint passes...! He can finish.......

Doc really hates our boy!!!
and i really hate Doc.
ok, maybe not hate, just not impressed with his coaching skills.

A lot of people thought KC Jones and Bill Fitch were below average coaches too. They both won championships because they had were coaching Larry Bird and gang.

Isn't it crazy how coaches need good players to win!?
Nobody was ****ing about Rivers' coaching job in 2008,09, or even 10 when we made the finals..

Now, with a bunch of old stiffs, we are losing, and Doc gets some blame. lol.

I don't think Doc has had muck luck, record wise, coaching young players. I think Danny and Co. knew this when they offered him a new deal. That is why I assume we won't rebuild with the draft. We'll see Danny trade picks and players for new pieces.

If that's the plan, I'm going to give up on this team.  If Danny trades picks and players for new pieces, I'm just going to straight up stop following the team. 

That's what bad GMs do who are desperate to keep a team relevant when it's become time to rebuild.  Bad teams make moves like that.  Nothing but a prolonged period of mediocrity can come from trying to stave off rebuilding by trying to reload on the fly.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: aporel#18 on February 19, 2012, 08:53:01 PM
This team is playing without any heart or focus. Terrible team performance, and nobody to blame for it, just each and every guy on the team.

I hope Doc rests the old guys and gives Sasha, Moore and JaJuan some burn.

I see no big changes coming, nobody wants our HOF vets, so I doubt Danny finds a trade. Steamer, Sasha and Quisy could be traded for 2nd round picks or maybe JO/Dooling are traded for TPEs.

Good night, and Go Celtics!
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: 33_Larry Legend_33 on February 19, 2012, 08:56:54 PM
Best part of the night was the 2002 flashback when we beat the Lakers on 'Toine's 3 pointer.  I remember that game vividly.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: raynman on February 19, 2012, 09:01:10 PM
I'm gonna cry!!!  :'(  :'(  :'(
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Q_FBE on February 19, 2012, 09:01:56 PM
Doc needs to shake things up to make the Celtics snap out of their lethargy. What is going on over there? Wes Welker drops a pass and suddenly no body from Boston is capable of playing? The Bruins had another bad loss and they could be heading down the tubes. The Celtics may simply not have the talent anymore and a lot of the players may be on their way out of Boston.
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Eja117 on February 19, 2012, 09:51:21 PM
I was away from tv and internet all day. went on line to look at the box score and this is basically what happened

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWHJk5g9DOE&feature=relmfu
Title: Re: Celtics (15-14) at Pistons (10-22) 2/19
Post by: Who on February 20, 2012, 10:03:49 AM
Doc should have started JJJ instead of Wilcox.

Can't start Wilcox, JO and Rondo. Rondo needs at least one big man who can nail a jump-shot. Too many vulnerabilities offensively.

Detroit was starting Jason Maxiell. It would have been fine to JJJ the nod. No major scorer that would eat him alive.