KG is playing at the level. He is not the problem, see him below compared vs Nowitzky and Tim Duncan.35mpg is not too much for Ray and PP when we are desperately trying to hold onto our playoff spot. If Doc follows your suggestion and plays them 25 mpg, we can kiss goodbye to the possibility (no matter how slim) of our core making one last run.
KG: 28 g, 30.5 mpg, 49.5%, 7.8 rpg, 14.1 ppg, 2.7 apg, 1.1 bpg
DN: 27 g, 32.4 mpg, 45.4%, 6.3 rpg, 18.6 ppg, 2.3 apg, 0.6 bpg
TD: 30 g, 27.8 mpg, 46.7%, 8.6 rpg, 13.7 ppg, 2.7 apg, 1.4 bpg
There other three players: RA, PP and JO, whose mpg should be lowered. PP and RA are averaging around 35 mpg, they should be around 25 mpg. Taking more rest, and allowing younger legs to be more playing time and defending: Pietrus, Sasha, Daniels, even Bradley and Dooling for RA.
Flat out, JO has to go out of the starting line up. His playing time should be 15 mpg, instead of 25. CW should be the starting C, like in the game they won vs Bulls. CW started and played 26 minutes, made 11 points (5/6 shooting), grabbed 9 boards, blocked 1 shot, and had only 2 TO. JO should come from the bench as backup, but also GS should play not less time than JO, and eventually more, as long as he is regaining confidence.
I read minutes ago in other blog this proposed lineup to start, and I like it way more than the one Doc is sticking to:
Rondo, Moore (instead RA), PP, KG and CW (instead of JO).
However, whatever it is I hope Doc Rivers comes tonight with any lineup different than the recipe for disaster he sticking to so far.
Unless Paul Pierce can play like KOBE (with ENERGY and PURPOSE) or be a true million dollar alstar he is being paid yearly and KG has to at least play, then it will be hard for us to win any game , even against the sucky teams. I predicted the loss at home to the Pistons. Without PP and KG playing decent ball, we are no more than doormat for 500+ teams.
I'm predicting a win
Hurry up Lottery.
No KG:
A. Sherrod Blakely @SherrodbCSN
#Celticstalk The #Celtics don't expect him to rejoin the team in time for tomorrow's game at the #Mavs, either.
A. Sherrod Blakely @SherrodbCSN
#Celticstalk The #Celtics will be without Kevin Garnett. He is not with the team due to a personal matter.
No KG. Come on Doc surprise me! Wilcox and JJJ start.
Jermaine with three blocks so far.Meh, there's far worse ones out there. Don't mind these that much.
I hate the Pistons announcers
Hey, who's the new guy playing center? He reminds of someone...Didn't we have him in the preseason for a while as well?
I hate Donny!!!
Jermaine with three blocks so far.Meh, there's far worse ones out there. Don't mind these that much.
I hate the Pistons announcers
Hah, good luck with that ;)Jermaine with three blocks so far.Meh, there's far worse ones out there. Don't mind these that much.
I hate the Pistons announcers
I'll trade you guys 2 Piston's announcers for Donny. He's are ready letting the UConn love flow. Comparing Ben Gordon's body to an Olympic athlete.
Jermaine with three blocks so far.Meh, there's far worse ones out there. Don't mind these that much.
I hate the Pistons announcers
I'll trade you guys 2 Piston's announcers for Donny. He's are ready letting the UConn love flow. Comparing Ben Gordon's body to an Olympic athlete.
LOL They're playing the "He Got Game" theme song :]] hahaha
Steamer!!!
Steamer!!!
Big Time!!!
wow, we are 65% from the filed. Pistons are 38%, and the game is tied...They have 5 more shots and have been to the line 9 more times!
He has done it...but no one would pass to him..I say pass it to the man....make the other team pay...! He is more than just a shot blocker...Everyone on the floor shoud be involved in the teams offense..!Steamer!!!
Big Time!!!
On the pick'n'roll. Has he ever done that in a Celtics uniform before? That would really add something to his offensive game.
Refs trying hard to keep us in the game. Wish they didn't.Indeed its clear that the refs are favoring the Cs with Detroit shooting 13 more free throws, wait what?
Refs trying hard to keep us in the game. Wish they didn't.Indeed its clear that the refs are favoring the Cs with Detroit shooting 13 more free throws, wait what?
What a stupid play by Dooling. Why jump on top of him?Yeah, Dooling just isn't playing well at all lately.
Doc isn't wrong, Wallace just walked into Pierce, never stopping and had an arm out and grabbed him.
Not at all, KG sets moving screens but he doesn't use his arms like that.Doc isn't wrong, Wallace just walked into Pierce, never stopping and had an arm out and grabbed him.
To be fair, those screens look very similar to most KG screens.
15 fouls in 17 minutes, it has to be a record.
C's are shooting 60% from the field, down 9! ???
2nd: 6 TO's, 1 FG made15 fouls in 17 minutes, it has to be a record.
C's are shooting 60% from the field, down 9! ???
Yep, because they just stopped shooting.
It's been awhile now.
Either the C's are playing with 4 guys or the other teams are playing 6. We just seem 1 player short all the time lately.
Ray Allen-15 minutes-0 pointsNot like he didn't get the touches.
You don't get to the line when almost every shot is a jump shot. On another note, am I the only one who sees dysfunction on this team?
You don't get to the line when almost every shot is a jump shot. On another note, am I the only one who sees dysfunction on this team?Hah. You're not that special m8 ;)
Tooo bad to watch, this is a shame.
Let's not make excuses yelling at refs.
Tooo bad to watch, this is a shame.
Let's not make excuses yelling at refs.
Okay, they're playing bad. Got it.
But 29-10???
Give me a break! Save that remark for one where its like 20-12.
Tooo bad to watch, this is a shame.
Let's not make excuses yelling at refs.
Okay, they're playing bad. Got it.
But 29-10???
Give me a break! Save that remark for one where its like 20-12.
You can translate that: horrendous D, even worst O.
29-10 is ridiculous, but the Celts never get to the line because they rarely drive to the hoop. Sometimes they play like the players don't even know each other.Tooo bad to watch, this is a shame.
Let's not make excuses yelling at refs.
Okay, they're playing bad. Got it.
But 29-10???
Give me a break! Save that remark for one where its like 20-12.
Tooo bad to watch, this is a shame.
Let's not make excuses yelling at refs.
Okay, they're playing bad. Got it.
But 29-10???
Give me a break! Save that remark for one where its like 20-12.
This is so painful to watch.
Pistons are a bad team and they should be up 20 by now (they missed 12 ft).
C's have 13 turnovers, 10 offensive rebounds allowed. And it's not even a halftime.
Rondo is again in 'i don't care' mode. Reckless passing..I guess he plays well only when the game is on TNT. So sick..
But the best thing is that we can still win this.
Tooo bad to watch, this is a shame.
Let's not make excuses yelling at refs.
Okay, they're playing bad. Got it.
But 29-10???
Give me a break! Save that remark for one where its like 20-12.
You can translate that: horrendous D, even worst O.
Genius!
Tooo bad to watch, this is a shame.
Let's not make excuses yelling at refs.
Okay, they're playing bad. Got it.
But 29-10???
Give me a break! Save that remark for one where its like 20-12.
You can translate that: horrendous D, even worst O.
Genius!
I'm just frustrated.. ::)
Tooo bad to watch, this is a shame.
Let's not make excuses yelling at refs.
Okay, they're playing bad. Got it.
But 29-10???
Give me a break! Save that remark for one where its like 20-12.
You can translate that: horrendous D, even worst O.
Genius!
I'm just frustrated.. ::)
Me too! :'(
Tooo bad to watch, this is a shame.
Let's not make excuses yelling at refs.
Okay, they're playing bad. Got it.
But 29-10???
Give me a break! Save that remark for one where its like 20-12.
You can translate that: horrendous D, even worst O.
Genius!
I'm just frustrated.. ::)
Me too! :'(
TP for you! Yeah!! ;)
How have the Knicks won 8 out of 9, missing Melo for all of those games and Amar'e for 5? How does San Antonio have such a good record missing their best player for half the season? How do other teams seem able to suck it up and win without their stars?They have a PG who can not only make plays but hit a 3pt shot.
How have the Knicks won 8 out of 9, missing Melo for all of those games and Amar'e for 5? How does San Antonio have such a good record missing their best player for half the season? How do other teams seem able to suck it up and win without their stars?
How have the Knicks won 8 out of 9, missing Melo for all of those games and Amar'e for 5? How does San Antonio have such a good record missing their best player for half the season? How do other teams seem able to suck it up and win without their stars?
We actually had our best streak with Rondo and a bunch of other players out..
How have the Knicks won 8 out of 9, missing Melo for all of those games and Amar'e for 5? How does San Antonio have such a good record missing their best player for half the season? How do other teams seem able to suck it up and win without their stars?
We actually had our best streak with Rondo and a bunch of other players out..
But they can't win without KG or Pierce.
Coincidence that Pierce played the best basketball he's played in several years when Rondo was out injured? And the team's offense actually looked NBA worthy...How have the Knicks won 8 out of 9, missing Melo for all of those games and Amar'e for 5? How does San Antonio have such a good record missing their best player for half the season? How do other teams seem able to suck it up and win without their stars?
We actually had our best streak with Rondo and a bunch of other players out..
But they can't win without KG or Pierce.
So glad Im not watching this game. Celtics are so depressing this season.
How have the Knicks won 8 out of 9, missing Melo for all of those games and Amar'e for 5? How does San Antonio have such a good record missing their best player for half the season? How do other teams seem able to suck it up and win without their stars?
How have the Knicks won 8 out of 9, missing Melo for all of those games and Amar'e for 5? How does San Antonio have such a good record missing their best player for half the season? How do other teams seem able to suck it up and win without their stars?
We actually had our best streak with Rondo and a bunch of other players out..
But they can't win without KG or Pierce.
This team is begging to be broken up. Fire sale at the trade deadline.
Coincidence that Pierce played the best basketball he's played in several years when Rondo was out injured? And the team's offense actually looked NBA worthy...How have the Knicks won 8 out of 9, missing Melo for all of those games and Amar'e for 5? How does San Antonio have such a good record missing their best player for half the season? How do other teams seem able to suck it up and win without their stars?
We actually had our best streak with Rondo and a bunch of other players out..
But they can't win without KG or Pierce.
This team is begging to be broken up. Fire sale at the trade deadline.
Maybe -- but probably will only be broken up if DA gets good value, not fire sale value.
How have the Knicks won 8 out of 9, missing Melo for all of those games and Amar'e for 5? How does San Antonio have such a good record missing their best player for half the season? How do other teams seem able to suck it up and win without their stars?
We actually had our best streak with Rondo and a bunch of other players out..
Coincidence that Pierce played the best basketball he's played in several years when Rondo was out injured? And the team's offense actually looked NBA worthy...How have the Knicks won 8 out of 9, missing Melo for all of those games and Amar'e for 5? How does San Antonio have such a good record missing their best player for half the season? How do other teams seem able to suck it up and win without their stars?
We actually had our best streak with Rondo and a bunch of other players out..
But they can't win without KG or Pierce.
This is Rondo's team now. Pierce needs to fill a lane and run. Also, moving a bit in the half court could help too.
I think this Monroe kid is better than Big AL.
Our 3 on 2 fast breaks always end in a 3 pt shot.
Our 3 on 2 fast breaks always end in a 3 pt shot.
When it's a wide open 3 for Ray or Pierce, I think that it's better than a contested layup.
JO sucks... he has one of his best games this year, and he sucks?
Looking really good this quarter. Big question is can they do it for more than one period?
Ok -- that's a goaltend.Close, but it seemed like, a WEE bit over the apex.
Jumper after jumper after jumper
Pierce takes over our offense improves and we win?
Over or under 75 points for the Celtics?smh man idek I was hopin we brough back Pierce to be a point forward so the offense can run smoother but we got tht game in dallas tomorrow
PLAY ETWAN MOORE >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Avery Bradley is so bad handling the ball. It is painful. They have quit. This team is a disgrace.AB is not a point guard. he can defend point guards but that doesn't make him one.
Avery Bradley is so bad handling the ball. It is painful. They have quit. This team is a disgrace.AB is not a point guard. he can defend point guards but that doesn't make him one.
don't know what he is.
Lets hope we at least keep them under 100 because that streak appears to be in jeopardy (looking for bright sides here).they're shooting 36% our defense aint tht bad but we cnt rebound to save our lives
Some day Rondo will grow up. Not sure when.
Sad state of affairs for the Celtics in being soundly beaten by the AWFUL Detroit Pistons twice in one week.
Who said this? lolSad state of affairs for the Celtics in being soundly beaten by the AWFUL Detroit Pistons twice in one week.
I just don't get how anyone thinks this team can contend.
Steam...and let me tell you...shot blocking is NOT easy.....Steam still not getting ANY paint passes...! He can finish.......
Sad state of affairs for the Celtics in being soundly beaten by the AWFUL Detroit Pistons twice in one week.
I just don't get how anyone thinks this team can contend.
Doc, how many times has small ball worked?
I really do wish we'd blow it up. Watching a young team struggle and improve is a lot more interesting than watching an over the hill team do the same. My dad is saying this team is too old and he doesn't even watch basketball. ::)
I really do wish we'd blow it up. Watching a young team struggle and improve is a lot more interesting than watching an over the hill team do the same. My dad is saying this team is too old and he doesn't even watch basketball. ::)
agreed trade before the march deadline + draft smart. sign 2 star free agents & decent role players
and i really hate Doc.Steam...and let me tell you...shot blocking is NOT easy.....Steam still not getting ANY paint passes...! He can finish.......
Doc really hates our boy!!!
Maybe a Rondo suspension will smarten him up.
Blow it up, blow it up, that's all I see and hear. Blowing it up will happen, just not during the season. No one wants our old players. If you are the GM of any NBA team, would you trade away your promising young prospects for our old players?
Let the contracts expire at the end of the season and then we'll restart next year.
and i really hate Doc.Steam...and let me tell you...shot blocking is NOT easy.....Steam still not getting ANY paint passes...! He can finish.......
Doc really hates our boy!!!
ok, maybe not hate, just not impressed with his coaching skills.
and i really hate Doc.Steam...and let me tell you...shot blocking is NOT easy.....Steam still not getting ANY paint passes...! He can finish.......
Doc really hates our boy!!!
ok, maybe not hate, just not impressed with his coaching skills.
A lot of people thought KC Jones and Bill Fitch were below average coaches too. They both won championships because they had were coaching Larry Bird and gang.
If I was Rondo I'd feel the same way.
"Oh the team played better without you."
"Oh, you need to stop scoring so much at such an efficient level, be a facilitator."
Well, he did that, and had 8 assists and only 4 shots tonight before the ejection.. And we were getting rolled by the Pistons.
Sooo If the team is so much better without Rondo.. Why did they get run out of the gym when he left..? Why weren't we winning when he wasn't shooting...?
Maybe a Rondo suspension will smarten him up. Plus, he may have been simply throwing the ball back to the ref, but it was a fastball and the ref wasn't ready. Not going to listen to Tommy's moronic histrionics after the game.nah i saw it on the Pistons feed he cussed at the ref then flung it at him he's gonna eat a suspension tomorrow nd I wouldnt be surprised if the Pierce point forward offense has us in a close game tomorrow against the mavs
Are you kidding me? 40 points off turnovers.
If I was Rondo I'd feel the same way.You don't really think Rondo reads this message board, do you?
"Oh the team played better without you."
"Oh, you need to stop scoring so much at such an efficient level, be a facilitator."
Well, he did that, and had 8 assists and only 4 shots tonight before the ejection.. And we were getting rolled by the Pistons.
Sooo If the team is so much better without Rondo.. Why did they get run out of the gym when he left..? Why weren't we winning when he wasn't shooting...?
24 turnovers. This team just doesn't care.
If I was Rondo I'd feel the same way.
"Oh the team played better without you."
"Oh, you need to stop scoring so much at such an efficient level, be a facilitator."
Well, he did that, and had 8 assists and only 4 shots tonight before the ejection.. And we were getting rolled by the Pistons.
Sooo If the team is so much better without Rondo.. Why did they get run out of the gym when he left..? Why weren't we winning when he wasn't shooting...?
Unless Rondo got more stats after his ejection it was 10 assists and 1-6 shooting. Also a terrible 6 TO's...
ESPN was slow to update his box score I guess.. Even so, he's not the reason the team is losing.
24 turnovers. This team just doesn't care.
Where is everyone who was preaching patience earlier in the season? Now the season is almost halfway over the easiest part of the schedule is behind the Celtics :-X
Please mind the language, people.
We don't want the language filter to over-heat.
and i really hate Doc.Steam...and let me tell you...shot blocking is NOT easy.....Steam still not getting ANY paint passes...! He can finish.......
Doc really hates our boy!!!
ok, maybe not hate, just not impressed with his coaching skills.
A lot of people thought KC Jones and Bill Fitch were below average coaches too. They both won championships because they had were coaching Larry Bird and gang.
Isn't it crazy how coaches need good players to win!?
Nobody was ****ing about Rivers' coaching job in 2008,09, or even 10 when we made the finals..
Now, with a bunch of old stiffs, we are losing, and Doc gets some blame. lol.
and i really hate Doc.Steam...and let me tell you...shot blocking is NOT easy.....Steam still not getting ANY paint passes...! He can finish.......
Doc really hates our boy!!!
ok, maybe not hate, just not impressed with his coaching skills.
A lot of people thought KC Jones and Bill Fitch were below average coaches too. They both won championships because they had were coaching Larry Bird and gang.
Isn't it crazy how coaches need good players to win!?
Nobody was ****ing about Rivers' coaching job in 2008,09, or even 10 when we made the finals..
Now, with a bunch of old stiffs, we are losing, and Doc gets some blame. lol.
I don't think Doc has had muck luck, record wise, coaching young players. I think Danny and Co. knew this when they offered him a new deal. That is why I assume we won't rebuild with the draft. We'll see Danny trade picks and players for new pieces.