Update from today's practice
Pietrus is questionable for tomorrow's game with a knee injury
KG is questionable for tomorrow with a hip flexor
JO is hoping to play.
Update from today's practiceHahahaha why does none of this come as a surprise?
Pietrus is questionable for tomorrow's game with a knee injury
KG is questionable for tomorrow with a hip flexor
JO is hoping to play.
The Celtics could have Kevin Garnett, Mickael Pietrus and Jermaine O'Neal back in the lineup tonight as they face the Detroit Pistons at TD Garden.
All three participated in shootaround, and Garnett participated in full-court drills after missing practice Tuesday with a strained hip flexor,. He is the lone Celtic to play in all 27 games this season. Pietrus missed part of practice Tuesday with a sore knee while O'Neal missed the past two games with a sore left shoulder.
Brandon Bass, who is out with a sore knee, was the only Celtic not to participate in shootaround.
Will fans get another episode of Running with Rondo or will it be Same Old with Starters? Stay tuned.
Will fans get another episode of Running with Rondo or will it be Same Old with Starters? Stay tuned.
Reading JO was healthy did not put a smile on my face.
Will fans get another episode of Running with Rondo or will it be Same Old with Starters? Stay tuned.
Reading JO was healthy did not put a smile on my face.
Does help us with Greg Monroe. Pretty good offensive player.
Move those camera people.Seriously, a ton of collisions could be avoided.
Rondo feasting on this soft Pistons D.C's gameplan seems to be posting up Knight with whomever they put him on.
The Rondo-Wilcox pairing is a match made in heaven.
Yurp. Totally agree. The game would've been played "out of bounds" more often too. People flying, jumping, it'd become a viable option, jumping way out of bounds to allow yourself room to pass to someone.Move those camera people.Seriously, a ton of collisions could be avoided.
JO looks old and injured.
Fouls on fouls on fouls.Yup, and the C's are missing too many FTs.
Seriously, after everything Rondo does, he seems to look at the bench, or Doc or something.
Looked very Shakespearean.Seriously, after everything Rondo does, he seems to look at the bench, or Doc or something.
Yeah, what was up with that weird ball-to-the-crowd thing he did in the backcourt?
Rondo = weirdest, most unorthodox player I've ever watched.
Looked very Shakespearean.Seriously, after everything Rondo does, he seems to look at the bench, or Doc or something.
Yeah, what was up with that weird ball-to-the-crowd thing he did in the backcourt?
Rondo = weirdest, most unorthodox player I've ever watched.
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Hahaha :') nice one. I giggle like a schoolgirl.Looked very Shakespearean.Seriously, after everything Rondo does, he seems to look at the bench, or Doc or something.
Yeah, what was up with that weird ball-to-the-crowd thing he did in the backcourt?
Rondo = weirdest, most unorthodox player I've ever watched.
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Alas, poor Spalding, I knew him well!
Maybe behind the scenes someone told him to stop being a diva so he is mocking themLooked very Shakespearean.Seriously, after everything Rondo does, he seems to look at the bench, or Doc or something.
Yeah, what was up with that weird ball-to-the-crowd thing he did in the backcourt?
Rondo = weirdest, most unorthodox player I've ever watched.
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Defense pretty terrible without KG.TP spot on pretty much
I'm thinking it's some disagreement between him and Doc. Some kind of ... I dunno. Could even be a challenge or something.Maybe behind the scenes someone told him to stop being a diva so he is mocking themLooked very Shakespearean.Seriously, after everything Rondo does, he seems to look at the bench, or Doc or something.
Yeah, what was up with that weird ball-to-the-crowd thing he did in the backcourt?
Rondo = weirdest, most unorthodox player I've ever watched.
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Honestly if I was playing there and Bill Russell showed up I might start acting weird too.
I don't like Dooling.Seconded.
smart pass by steam..no one gaveit back....
Would anyone trade Ray and Dooling for Gordon and a future #1?I'd trade Dooling for a packet of band-aids right now.
Sponge Bob band-aids and I'm keeping him. Star Wars ones and it's a dealWould anyone trade Ray and Dooling for Gordon and a future #1?I'd trade Dooling for a packet of band-aids right now.
Would anyone trade Ray and Dooling for Gordon and a future #1?Thats WAY too much for a washed up Ben Gordon this aint the Bulls version of Ben Gordon
Dooling played okay for that stretch. Good transition D too.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_leSkaEAuqL4/SlTycS2qA3I/AAAAAAAABlA/Ytu7Fm2mBOk/s400/100_9727.JPG)Sponge Bob band-aids and I'm keeping him. Star Wars ones and it's a dealWould anyone trade Ray and Dooling for Gordon and a future #1?I'd trade Dooling for a packet of band-aids right now.
Would anyone trade Ray and Dooling for Gordon and a future #1?Thats WAY too much for a washed up Ben Gordon this aint the Bulls version of Ben Gordon
I had to dig deep to get those words out.Dooling played okay for that stretch. Good transition D too.
Yes he did.
My man Steam handling the mighty ben wallace..!SteamWalletzed.
Ray Allen is still a better player then Ben Gordon rite now even tho he's 8 years older BG aint nuthin but an ineffecient chucker tht doesnt defend at this point in his careerWould anyone trade Ray and Dooling for Gordon and a future #1?Thats WAY too much for a washed up Ben Gordon this aint the Bulls version of Ben Gordon
Too much. This is not 2008 Ray Allen either. I think Gordon is only 28.
I can't believe the Pistons wasted more money on Stuckey.did they resign him....he only played good a few years ago.."contract year"....
I hate when Ray wants to lead the break.
I can't believe the Pistons wasted more money on Stuckey.did they resign him....he only played good a few years ago.."contract year"....
I can't believe the Pistons wasted more money on Stuckey.did they resign him....he only played good a few years ago.."contract year"....
WOW..that is free money....he is a waste, and he has PROVED it over the last 3 years.....vet min for him...
RFA. 3 yr/25 million. Dumars is a dope.
rondo may have to give us another triple double for us to win. PP is not even in this gameHis numbers have been down ova these past few games maybe he's nursing an injury maybe him nd Rondo dont co-exist well
and NO, w are not "over 40"...the league is 18....49.....just because of me...player/ coach......put me in coaaaaccchhhhh....!Dern...
Hahahaha, VERY generous of you...it is a little known fact that i have YET to put myself IN.....I am rough on the guys on what to do....but they are 24-36...and 1 big HAMMER who is 40....but they listen well, run, ect....besides, i can play pick up a lot of other nightsd..."Note to self, STOP loooking for passes playing pickup...LOL" I rebound dish..and the ball is just gone.....you know.."the designated SHOOTERs in pickup land..!and NO, w are not "over 40"...the league is 18....49.....just because of me...player/ coach......put me in coaaaaccchhhhh....!Dern...
player/coach? Very Bill Russell of you.
ysa, Rays shot is off, and his layups are short..he even missed a free throw.....he is still Ray.....maybe Ray needs some Rest too..play the purdue kid.....what is his name..?
anybody lese gonna show up and play other than Rondo and Wilcox?Steam looked good..for a guy who gets very little passes on offense, and is even still unselfish with the ball...right..?
If not we are in deep doo doo
anybody lese gonna show up and play other than Rondo and Wilcox?
If not we are in deep doo doo
that is the JJJ goy....right..what about the other guard guy..? is that moore..?ysa, Rays shot is off, and his layups are short..he even missed a free throw.....he is still Ray.....maybe Ray needs some Rest too..play the purdue kid.....what is his name..?
I think his name is Glenn Robinson. Big Dog!!!
anybody lese gonna show up and play other than Rondo and Wilcox?Steam looked good..for a guy who gets very little passes on offense, and is even still unselfish with the ball...right..?
If not we are in deep doo doo
anybody lese gonna show up and play other than Rondo and Wilcox?Steam looked good..for a guy who gets very little passes on offense, and is even still unselfish with the ball...right..?
If not we are in deep doo doo
anybody lese gonna show up and play other than Rondo and Wilcox?Steam looked good..for a guy who gets very little passes on offense, and is even still unselfish with the ball...right..?
If not we are in deep doo doo
Poor Steamer and JJJ had to play most of their minutes with Bradley and Dooling running the show. Danny really needs to get a good backup pg. And not a shooting pg either. A true pg like Rondo.
that is the JJJ goy....right..what about the other guard guy..? is that moore..?ysa, Rays shot is off, and his layups are short..he even missed a free throw.....he is still Ray.....maybe Ray needs some Rest too..play the purdue kid.....what is his name..?
I think his name is Glenn Robinson. Big Dog!!!
I think it would be a mistake to trade Rondo to the Lakers...
It's pretty clear KG = the Celtics defense
It's pretty clear KG = the Celtics defense
JJ BLOCK!
Wilcox and JJJ seem to have nice chemistry.Offensively...defensively they aren't patrolling the paint very well...but neither is JO.
Pistons are hanging around too long
Rondo is putting on a clinic
Thank god for Rondo tonight because Ray and Pierce are invisible.
Wonder how many threads there will be tomorrow about Paul and Ray not bringing it every night and disappearing during long periods of games?
So we can end the JJJ vs JON thing now, right?
Ray and Pierce are invisible
They havent had a chance. Rondo has gone off in shoot first mode and when he dishes, its to Chris and Jj. Hope winning trumps touches.
It was more Wilcox actually, but JJJ matteredSo we can end the JJJ vs JON thing now, right?
There was a JJJ vs JON thing?
Don't worry Pierce will carry usHopefully not into an iso meltdown. Meanwhile, get some stops!
what is ray doing
joined late tonight. anyone care to provide 2-3 sentence recap of why we're crapping the bed on this without me going back to read 17 pages of posts?
I look foward to this loss being somehow blamed on Rondo...
joined late tonight. anyone care to provide 2-3 sentence recap of why we're crapping the bed on this without me going back to read 17 pages of posts?
I look foward to this loss being somehow blamed on Rondo...
He hasn't been that good in the 4th
I look foward to this loss being somehow blamed on Rondo...
He hasn't been that good in the 4th
Pierce and Ray have been awful but do people get why rookies can't always be relied upon, especially if they aren't great natural defenders.
The rookies defense have been dismal all game.
trying to figure out how Doc is planning to lose this one...I guess we know the answer to this now
I look foward to this loss being somehow blamed on Rondo...
This team SUCKS
[Rondo's] offense has ran the team right out of rythm tonight. He dribbled the ball on the shot clock down to 5/6 seconds every trip and didn't get Ray and Pierce in rythm.
Defensive end. Hasn't denied Stuckey the ball all night.
Aha. Thought so. Chip.
You are kidding right.Pierce and Ray have been awful but do people get why rookies can't always be relied upon, especially if they aren't great natural defenders.
The rookies defense have been dismal all game.
I think JJJ and Steamer are great natural defenders. This system is just very difficult and may not be very effective if KG is not anchoring it.
I look foward to this loss being somehow blamed on Rondo...
Allow me.
In short, I believe his offense has ran the team right out of rythm tonight.
All Rondo did tonight was make shots that he normally doesn't make. If he was taking those jump shots and they weren't falling we'd be having the same discussion as we normally are. He dribbled the ball on the shot clock down to 5/6 seconds every trip and didn't get Ray and Pierce in rythm.
Defensive end. Hasn't denied Stuckey the ball all night.
I look foward to this loss being somehow blamed on Rondo...
Allow me.
In short, I believe his offense has ran the team right out of rythm tonight.
All Rondo did tonight was make shots that he normally doesn't make. If he was taking those jump shots and they weren't falling we'd be having the same discussion as we normally are. He dribbled the ball on the shot clock down to 5/6 seconds every trip and didn't get Ray and Pierce in rythm.
Defensive end. Hasn't denied Stuckey the ball all night.
Danny is going to be burning up the phone lines the next 30 days
thanks, TP for the updatejoined late tonight. anyone care to provide 2-3 sentence recap of why we're crapping the bed on this without me going back to read 17 pages of posts?
Complete no show from Ray and the bigs defensively. Excellent aggressive play from Gordon and Stuckey and Monroe.
I look foward to this loss being somehow blamed on Rondo...
Allow me.
In short, I believe his offense has ran the team right out of rythm tonight.
All Rondo did tonight was make shots that he normally doesn't make. If he was taking those jump shots and they weren't falling we'd be having the same discussion as we normally are. He dribbled the ball on the shot clock down to 5/6 seconds every trip and didn't get Ray and Pierce in rythm.
Defensive end. Hasn't denied Stuckey the ball all night.
People complain he doesn't take wide open jumpshots he's allowed all game...he takes them (and makes them), and it's his fault the team is out of rhythm.
People complain he doesn't attack the basket enough, he is aggressive all night and now that's taking away shots from Pierce and Ray.
Whatever man, I'm resigned to the fact that people will blame all of the teams problems on Rondo no matter how he plays.
TP for your updates toojoined late tonight. anyone care to provide 2-3 sentence recap of why we're crapping the bed on this without me going back to read 17 pages of posts?
Great Rondo shooting.
Equally bad Pierce and Allen.
Ben Gordon hot 2nd half.
Losing to the Raptors and Pistons in one week.
Blow this up. It isn't worth making the playoffs and losing in the first round. Get us a lotto pick. This is embarrassing.
Losing to the Raptors and Pistons in one week.
Blow this up. It isn't worth making the playoffs and losing in the first round. Get us a lotto pick. This is embarrassing.
I look foward to this loss being somehow blamed on Rondo...
Allow me.
In short, I believe his offense has ran the team right out of rythm tonight.
All Rondo did tonight was make shots that he normally doesn't make. If he was taking those jump shots and they weren't falling we'd be having the same discussion as we normally are. He dribbled the ball on the shot clock down to 5/6 seconds every trip and didn't get Ray and Pierce in rythm.
Defensive end. Hasn't denied Stuckey the ball all night.
People complain he doesn't take wide open jumpshots he's allowed all game...he takes them (and makes them), and it's his fault the team is out of rhythm.
People complain he doesn't attack the basket enough, he is aggressive all night and now that's taking away shots from Pierce and Ray.
Whatever man, I'm resigned to the fact that people will blame all of the teams problems on Rondo no matter how he plays.
Losing to the Raptors and Pistons in one week.
Blow this up. It isn't worth making the playoffs and losing in the first round. Get us a lotto pick. This is embarrassing.
It's not like we're missing our top 2 PFs or anything.
Losing to the Raptors and Pistons in one week.
Blow this up. It isn't worth making the playoffs and losing in the first round. Get us a lotto pick. This is embarrassing.
It's not like we're missing our top 2 PFs or anything.
I look foward to this loss being somehow blamed on Rondo...
Allow me.
In short, I believe his offense has ran the team right out of rythm tonight.
All Rondo did tonight was make shots that he normally doesn't make. If he was taking those jump shots and they weren't falling we'd be having the same discussion as we normally are. He dribbled the ball on the shot clock down to 5/6 seconds every trip and didn't get Ray and Pierce in rythm.
Defensive end. Hasn't denied Stuckey the ball all night.
People complain he doesn't take wide open jumpshots he's allowed all game...he takes them (and makes them), and it's his fault the team is out of rhythm.
People complain he doesn't attack the basket enough, he is aggressive all night and now that's taking away shots from Pierce and Ray.
Whatever man, I'm resigned to the fact that people will blame all of the teams problems on Rondo no matter how he plays.
Yeah, he's making them tonight. He's also 0/3 on his jumpers in the 4th quarter now.
Where was he in the Lakers game down the stretch? Running the ball on offense down to 8 seconds on the shot clock with Kobe playing 10 ft off him clanking jumpers.
Show me you are consistent, and I'll back off.
Rondo played great. PP and Ray were useless.
I'm not blaming anyone. This team just isn't that good.The only Celtics in the building right now with anything resembling killer instinct is Bill Russell and Tommy
You are kidding right.Pierce and Ray have been awful but do people get why rookies can't always be relied upon, especially if they aren't great natural defenders.
The rookies defense have been dismal all game.
I think JJJ and Steamer are great natural defenders. This system is just very difficult and may not be very effective if KG is not anchoring it.
I'm not talking defenders as in let's play one on one, wow, he's a great defender playing one guy. I mean great natural shutdown and team oriented defenders.
Stiemsma can block shots weak side but he gives up position down low and his rotations and pick and roll defense is awful.
Johnson is not strong enough down low nor is he the best one on one defender. Again he gets lost on rotations.
Losing to the Raptors and Pistons in one week.
Blow this up. It isn't worth making the playoffs and losing in the first round. Get us a lotto pick. This is embarrassing.
It's not like we're missing our top 2 PFs or anything.
Lol...I don't care who we are missing. This team should never lose to the Pistons. Period.
Rondo played great. PP and Ray were useless.
Well, Rondo put up some numbers. Not exactly the same thing. Sure wanst setting the table like he can do. And his D? I smell a whiff of dysfunction here.
Losing to the Raptors and Pistons in one week.
Blow this up. It isn't worth making the playoffs and losing in the first round. Get us a lotto pick. This is embarrassing.
It's not like we're missing our top 2 PFs or anything.
Please. Detroit is horrendous
I look foward to this loss being somehow blamed on Rondo...
Allow me.
In short, I believe his offense has ran the team right out of rythm tonight.
All Rondo did tonight was make shots that he normally doesn't make. If he was taking those jump shots and they weren't falling we'd be having the same discussion as we normally are. He dribbled the ball on the shot clock down to 5/6 seconds every trip and didn't get Ray and Pierce in rythm.
Defensive end. Hasn't denied Stuckey the ball all night.
People complain he doesn't take wide open jumpshots he's allowed all game...he takes them (and makes them), and it's his fault the team is out of rhythm.
People complain he doesn't attack the basket enough, he is aggressive all night and now that's taking away shots from Pierce and Ray.
Whatever man, I'm resigned to the fact that people will blame all of the teams problems on Rondo no matter how he plays.
Yeah, he's making them tonight. He's also 0/3 on his jumpers in the 4th quarter now.
Where was he in the Lakers game down the stretch? Running the ball on offense down to 8 seconds on the shot clock with Kobe playing 10 ft off him clanking jumpers.
Show me you are consistent, and I'll back off.
And you have nothing to say about the efforts of Paul and Ray tonight? Rondo is the reason we lost? Really?
Give me a break.
get use to it, we are a 500 team, that means sometime we beat really good teams, and sometime we lose to terrible teams!Losing to the Raptors and Pistons in one week.
Blow this up. It isn't worth making the playoffs and losing in the first round. Get us a lotto pick. This is embarrassing.
It's not like we're missing our top 2 PFs or anything.
Lol...I don't care who we are missing. This team should never lose to the Pistons. Period.
get use to it, we are a 500 team, that means sometime we beat really good teams, and sometime we lose to terrible teams!Losing to the Raptors and Pistons in one week.
Blow this up. It isn't worth making the playoffs and losing in the first round. Get us a lotto pick. This is embarrassing.
It's not like we're missing our top 2 PFs or anything.
Lol...I don't care who we are missing. This team should never lose to the Pistons. Period.
Well... At least we still haven't given up 100 points since the second game? :P
Ben Gordon underachieves all year but then goes ham tonight smh unbelievable and we're not a better team when Rondo takes nearly 30 shots Pierce nd Ray were in a horrible rhythm cuz Rondo was overly aggressiveagree, Rondo needs to be aggressive but make sure ray and pierce get in the game
I look foward to this loss being somehow blamed on Rondo...
Allow me.
In short, I believe his offense has ran the team right out of rythm tonight.
All Rondo did tonight was make shots that he normally doesn't make. If he was taking those jump shots and they weren't falling we'd be having the same discussion as we normally are. He dribbled the ball on the shot clock down to 5/6 seconds every trip and didn't get Ray and Pierce in rythm.
Defensive end. Hasn't denied Stuckey the ball all night.
People complain he doesn't take wide open jumpshots he's allowed all game...he takes them (and makes them), and it's his fault the team is out of rhythm.
People complain he doesn't attack the basket enough, he is aggressive all night and now that's taking away shots from Pierce and Ray.
Whatever man, I'm resigned to the fact that people will blame all of the teams problems on Rondo no matter how he plays.
Yeah, he's making them tonight. He's also 0/3 on his jumpers in the 4th quarter now.
Where was he in the Lakers game down the stretch? Running the ball on offense down to 8 seconds on the shot clock with Kobe playing 10 ft off him clanking jumpers.
Show me you are consistent, and I'll back off.
And you have nothing to say about the efforts of Paul and Ray tonight? Rondo is the reason we lost? Really?
Give me a break.
What was EVERYONE's complaint after the Lakers game? Rondo's man plays 10ft off him, playing centerfield and denying Pierce getting to the hoop and Ray coming clean off of picks.
How is that ANY different tonight besides the fact that he was hitting his jumpshot which he consistently has never done.
I look foward to this loss being somehow blamed on Rondo...
Allow me.
In short, I believe his offense has ran the team right out of rythm tonight.
All Rondo did tonight was make shots that he normally doesn't make. If he was taking those jump shots and they weren't falling we'd be having the same discussion as we normally are. He dribbled the ball on the shot clock down to 5/6 seconds every trip and didn't get Ray and Pierce in rythm.
Defensive end. Hasn't denied Stuckey the ball all night.
People complain he doesn't take wide open jumpshots he's allowed all game...he takes them (and makes them), and it's his fault the team is out of rhythm.
People complain he doesn't attack the basket enough, he is aggressive all night and now that's taking away shots from Pierce and Ray.
Whatever man, I'm resigned to the fact that people will blame all of the teams problems on Rondo no matter how he plays.
Yeah, he's making them tonight. He's also 0/3 on his jumpers in the 4th quarter now.
Where was he in the Lakers game down the stretch? Running the ball on offense down to 8 seconds on the shot clock with Kobe playing 10 ft off him clanking jumpers.
Show me you are consistent, and I'll back off.
And you have nothing to say about the efforts of Paul and Ray tonight? Rondo is the reason we lost? Really?
Give me a break.
What was EVERYONE's complaint after the Lakers game? Rondo's man plays 10ft off him, playing centerfield and denying Pierce getting to the hoop and Ray coming clean off of picks.
How is that ANY different tonight besides the fact that he was hitting his jumpshot which he consistently has never done.
Ben Gordon underachieves all year but then goes ham tonight smh unbelievable and we're not a better team when Rondo takes nearly 30 shots Pierce nd Ray were in a horrible rhythm cuz Rondo was overly aggressive
Losing to the Raptors and Pistons in one week.
Blow this up. It isn't worth making the playoffs and losing in the first round. Get us a lotto pick. This is embarrassing.
It's not like we're missing our top 2 PFs or anything.
Please. Detroit is horrendous
Rondo can never do anything right.
I disagree, a lot. We WANT Rondo to be aggressive. RA / PP need to make an impact to the game in another way when someone is on fire offensively. To much standing around by PP / RA in the 3rd and 4th quarter. Find a way to make an impact and make a play. Rondo playing well doesn't stop them from playing well. No way.Ben Gordon underachieves all year but then goes ham tonight smh unbelievable and we're not a better team when Rondo takes nearly 30 shots Pierce nd Ray were in a horrible rhythm cuz Rondo was overly aggressive
Rondo can never do anything right. Which is why the Lakers amongst many other teams are currently foaming at the mouth for him ::)Well he can't lead us to wins against the worst teams in the league at home when KG is out and Ray and PP have bad games. We know that anyway.
Trade him. Go ahead. I would love to see what this team looks like when he's gone.
Rondo can never do anything right.
Its a matter of balance. He needs to take whats given without going outside the offense. Paul and Ray have to stay active if they are not getting touches. Right now, it appears to be off kilter.
And that's why you aren't a GMget use to it, we are a 500 team, that means sometime we beat really good teams, and sometime we lose to terrible teams!Losing to the Raptors and Pistons in one week.
Blow this up. It isn't worth making the playoffs and losing in the first round. Get us a lotto pick. This is embarrassing.
It's not like we're missing our top 2 PFs or anything.
Lol...I don't care who we are missing. This team should never lose to the Pistons. Period.
No. I'm not going to get used to it. If we are a .500 team then it is time to trade everything. Period.
I look foward to this loss being somehow blamed on Rondo...
Allow me.
In short, I believe his offense has ran the team right out of rythm tonight.
All Rondo did tonight was make shots that he normally doesn't make. If he was taking those jump shots and they weren't falling we'd be having the same discussion as we normally are. He dribbled the ball on the shot clock down to 5/6 seconds every trip and didn't get Ray and Pierce in rythm.
Defensive end. Hasn't denied Stuckey the ball all night.
People complain he doesn't take wide open jumpshots he's allowed all game...he takes them (and makes them), and it's his fault the team is out of rhythm.
People complain he doesn't attack the basket enough, he is aggressive all night and now that's taking away shots from Pierce and Ray.
Whatever man, I'm resigned to the fact that people will blame all of the teams problems on Rondo no matter how he plays.
Yeah, he's making them tonight. He's also 0/3 on his jumpers in the 4th quarter now.
Where was he in the Lakers game down the stretch? Running the ball on offense down to 8 seconds on the shot clock with Kobe playing 10 ft off him clanking jumpers.
Show me you are consistent, and I'll back off.
And you have nothing to say about the efforts of Paul and Ray tonight? Rondo is the reason we lost? Really?
Give me a break.
What was EVERYONE's complaint after the Lakers game? Rondo's man plays 10ft off him, playing centerfield and denying Pierce getting to the hoop and Ray coming clean off of picks.
How is that ANY different tonight besides the fact that he was hitting his jumpshot which he consistently has never done.
Who is everyone? It wasn't my complaint. My complaint was the lack of rebounding and the amount of second chance buckets the Lakers got.
Rondo's man plays 10 ft off him denying Pierce and Ray their shots. Cool. I get it. What else is he supposed to do other than make the shots they're leaving him open for???
I look foward to this loss being somehow blamed on Rondo...
Allow me.
In short, I believe his offense has ran the team right out of rythm tonight.
All Rondo did tonight was make shots that he normally doesn't make. If he was taking those jump shots and they weren't falling we'd be having the same discussion as we normally are. He dribbled the ball on the shot clock down to 5/6 seconds every trip and didn't get Ray and Pierce in rythm.
Defensive end. Hasn't denied Stuckey the ball all night.
People complain he doesn't take wide open jumpshots he's allowed all game...he takes them (and makes them), and it's his fault the team is out of rhythm.
People complain he doesn't attack the basket enough, he is aggressive all night and now that's taking away shots from Pierce and Ray.
Whatever man, I'm resigned to the fact that people will blame all of the teams problems on Rondo no matter how he plays.
Yeah, he's making them tonight. He's also 0/3 on his jumpers in the 4th quarter now.
Where was he in the Lakers game down the stretch? Running the ball on offense down to 8 seconds on the shot clock with Kobe playing 10 ft off him clanking jumpers.
Show me you are consistent, and I'll back off.
And you have nothing to say about the efforts of Paul and Ray tonight? Rondo is the reason we lost? Really?
Give me a break.
What was EVERYONE's complaint after the Lakers game? Rondo's man plays 10ft off him, playing centerfield and denying Pierce getting to the hoop and Ray coming clean off of picks.
How is that ANY different tonight besides the fact that he was hitting his jumpshot which he consistently has never done.
Who is everyone? It wasn't my complaint. My complaint was the lack of rebounding and the amount of second chance buckets the Lakers got.
Rondo's man plays 10 ft off him denying Pierce and Ray their shots. Cool. I get it. What else is he supposed to do other than make the shots they're leaving him open for???
Thats great. The sentence "Rondo making open jumpers" is not something you hear ever. If he can be consistent with it, fine, but history says he can't.
This team plays better on offense when the ball runs through Paul Pierce's hands which they didn't start trying to do untill 5 minutes to go in the 4th quarter. How does Pierce get his offense going that way?
Rondo was making his shots for the first 3 quarters and then its not there in the 4th and they collapse on offense because there was no ryhtym.
And I know you aren't everyone, but you just happened to jump in on the discussion, but more or less its what I read here post Lakers game.
Ben Gordon underachieves all year but then goes ham tonight smh unbelievable and we're not a better team when Rondo takes nearly 30 shots Pierce nd Ray were in a horrible rhythm cuz Rondo was overly aggressiveagree, Rondo needs to be aggressive but make sure ray and pierce get in the game
I look foward to this loss being somehow blamed on Rondo...
Allow me.
In short, I believe his offense has ran the team right out of rythm tonight.
All Rondo did tonight was make shots that he normally doesn't make. If he was taking those jump shots and they weren't falling we'd be having the same discussion as we normally are. He dribbled the ball on the shot clock down to 5/6 seconds every trip and didn't get Ray and Pierce in rythm.
Defensive end. Hasn't denied Stuckey the ball all night.
People complain he doesn't take wide open jumpshots he's allowed all game...he takes them (and makes them), and it's his fault the team is out of rhythm.
People complain he doesn't attack the basket enough, he is aggressive all night and now that's taking away shots from Pierce and Ray.
Whatever man, I'm resigned to the fact that people will blame all of the teams problems on Rondo no matter how he plays.
Yeah, he's making them tonight. He's also 0/3 on his jumpers in the 4th quarter now.
Where was he in the Lakers game down the stretch? Running the ball on offense down to 8 seconds on the shot clock with Kobe playing 10 ft off him clanking jumpers.
Show me you are consistent, and I'll back off.
And you have nothing to say about the efforts of Paul and Ray tonight? Rondo is the reason we lost? Really?
Give me a break.
What was EVERYONE's complaint after the Lakers game? Rondo's man plays 10ft off him, playing centerfield and denying Pierce getting to the hoop and Ray coming clean off of picks.
How is that ANY different tonight besides the fact that he was hitting his jumpshot which he consistently has never done.
Who is everyone? It wasn't my complaint. My complaint was the lack of rebounding and the amount of second chance buckets the Lakers got.
Rondo's man plays 10 ft off him denying Pierce and Ray their shots. Cool. I get it. What else is he supposed to do other than make the shots they're leaving him open for???
Thats great. The sentence "Rondo making open jumpers" is not something you hear ever. If he can be consistent with it, fine, but history says he can't.
This team plays better on offense when the ball runs through Paul Pierce's hands which they didn't start trying to do untill 5 minutes to go in the 4th quarter. How does Pierce get his offense going that way?
Rondo was making his shots for the first 3 quarters and then its not there in the 4th and they collapse on offense because there was no ryhtym.
And I know you aren't everyone, but you just happened to jump in on the discussion, but more or less its what I read here post Lakers game.
I disagree, a lot. We WANT Rondo to be aggressive. RA / PP need to make an impact to the game in another way when someone is on fire offensively. To much standing around by PP / RA in the 3rd and 4th quarter. Find a way to make an impact and make a play. Rondo playing well doesn't stop them from playing well. No way.Im not blaming Rondo it's not a coincidence whenever Rondo scores a bunch of points the rest of the big 3 dont play good he doesnt co-exist well with the other guys they work better when he's a distributor I'm NEVER comfortable wit a point guard takin 30 shotsBen Gordon underachieves all year but then goes ham tonight smh unbelievable and we're not a better team when Rondo takes nearly 30 shots Pierce nd Ray were in a horrible rhythm cuz Rondo was overly aggressive
I look foward to this loss being somehow blamed on Rondo...
Allow me.
In short, I believe his offense has ran the team right out of rythm tonight.
All Rondo did tonight was make shots that he normally doesn't make. If he was taking those jump shots and they weren't falling we'd be having the same discussion as we normally are. He dribbled the ball on the shot clock down to 5/6 seconds every trip and didn't get Ray and Pierce in rythm.
Defensive end. Hasn't denied Stuckey the ball all night.
People complain he doesn't take wide open jumpshots he's allowed all game...he takes them (and makes them), and it's his fault the team is out of rhythm.
People complain he doesn't attack the basket enough, he is aggressive all night and now that's taking away shots from Pierce and Ray.
Whatever man, I'm resigned to the fact that people will blame all of the teams problems on Rondo no matter how he plays.
Yeah, he's making them tonight. He's also 0/3 on his jumpers in the 4th quarter now.
Where was he in the Lakers game down the stretch? Running the ball on offense down to 8 seconds on the shot clock with Kobe playing 10 ft off him clanking jumpers.
Show me you are consistent, and I'll back off.
And you have nothing to say about the efforts of Paul and Ray tonight? Rondo is the reason we lost? Really?
Give me a break.
What was EVERYONE's complaint after the Lakers game? Rondo's man plays 10ft off him, playing centerfield and denying Pierce getting to the hoop and Ray coming clean off of picks.
How is that ANY different tonight besides the fact that he was hitting his jumpshot which he consistently has never done.
Who is everyone? It wasn't my complaint. My complaint was the lack of rebounding and the amount of second chance buckets the Lakers got.
Rondo's man plays 10 ft off him denying Pierce and Ray their shots. Cool. I get it. What else is he supposed to do other than make the shots they're leaving him open for???
Thats great. The sentence "Rondo making open jumpers" is not something you hear ever. If he can be consistent with it, fine, but history says he can't.
This team plays better on offense when the ball runs through Paul Pierce's hands which they didn't start trying to do untill 5 minutes to go in the 4th quarter. How does Pierce get his offense going that way?
Rondo was making his shots for the first 3 quarters and then its not there in the 4th and they collapse on offense because there was no ryhtym.
And I know you aren't everyone, but you just happened to jump in on the discussion, but more or less its what I read here post Lakers game.
Before I respond are you saying the offense runs smoother with PP as the point-forward?
Nah wat I'm sayin is Pierce nd Allen are rhythm players if you get them involved in the game and touches early they are more effective better on D and the offense flows smoother Ray was barely gettin looks nd Pierce got put in some end of the clock situations nd gettin doubledBen Gordon underachieves all year but then goes ham tonight smh unbelievable and we're not a better team when Rondo takes nearly 30 shots Pierce nd Ray were in a horrible rhythm cuz Rondo was overly aggressiveagree, Rondo needs to be aggressive but make sure ray and pierce get in the game
So basically Rondo needs to put up 30 points and 15 assists a night...
Nevermind, I see that we had another awful fourth quarter. Ho hum.
Nah wat I'm sayin is Pierce nd Allen are rhythm players if you get them involved in the game and touches early they are more effective better on D and the offense flows smoother Ray was barely gettin looks nd Pierce got put in some end of the clock situations nd gettin doubled
Nevermind, I see that we had another awful fourth quarter. Ho hum.
yea it wasnt an ineffecient 35 points so like I said i aint blaming him but something is wrong either a move needs to be made or they need to co-exist betterNah wat I'm sayin is Pierce nd Allen are rhythm players if you get them involved in the game and touches early they are more effective better on D and the offense flows smoother Ray was barely gettin looks nd Pierce got put in some end of the clock situations nd gettin doubled
On the other hand, if Rondo is able to get into the type of rhythm he was in tonight, with the obvious advantage over Knight, we need to exploit that. If Ray and Pierce play worse on defense because Rondo is scoring, we have a much bigger problem.
Nevermind, I see that we had another awful fourth quarter. Ho hum.
It was more than that. The wheels came off in the 4th, when we couldn't score with a PP/Bradley/Dooling backcourt, our transition D fell apart and the Pistons bigs finally took advantage of our weakness on the defensive boards, but it was a defensive trainwreck all night.
Ray was helpless against Stuckey or Gordon and our bigs were nowhere to be found when it came to rotating on pick and roll coverage and helping when the guards got beat.
JO was pretty disappointing too. Let Monroe out of the box early and was generally ignored by the Piston guards.
Im not blaming Rondo it's not a coincidence whenever Rondo scores a bunch of points the rest of the big 3 dont play good he doesnt co-exist well with the other guys they work better when he's a distributor I'm NEVER comfortable wit a point guard takin 30 shots
Im not blaming Rondo it's not a coincidence whenever Rondo scores a bunch of points the rest of the big 3 dont play good he doesnt co-exist well with the other guys they work better when he's a distributor I'm NEVER comfortable wit a point guard takin 30 shots
This was exactly the Pistons game plan, and well it worked. Let the Rondo's J beat us, and not Pierce and Allen by doubling them. To Rondo's credit he made the most of his opportunities tonight. But if he's not involving our other players it's as useless as Carmelo hogging the ball (ie it fills the stat sheet but doesn't win you ball games).
I disagree, a lot. We WANT Rondo to be aggressive. RA / PP need to make an impact to the game in another way when someone is on fire offensively. To much standing around by PP / RA in the 3rd and 4th quarter. Find a way to make an impact and make a play. Rondo playing well doesn't stop them from playing well. No way.Im not blaming Rondo it's not a coincidence whenever Rondo scores a bunch of points the rest of the big 3 dont play good he doesnt co-exist well with the other guys they work better when he's a distributor I'm NEVER comfortable wit a point guard takin 30 shotsBen Gordon underachieves all year but then goes ham tonight smh unbelievable and we're not a better team when Rondo takes nearly 30 shots Pierce nd Ray were in a horrible rhythm cuz Rondo was overly aggressive
Ray Allen and Paul Peirce need to find a way to contribute if they aren't scoring. They both used to be able to do that. It isn't Rondo's fault that Ray is a liability on both sides of the ball if his shot isn't falling or that Peirce forces up bad shots as soon as he touches the ball. They are smart enough players to not have to be force feed shots to get into the game.Yea you've got a point i simmered down from earlier nd im ready for tomorrows game against the bulls
Rondo being aggressive and scoring more should help open more good looks for Ray and Paul. Eventually defenses will need to rotate to stop the Rondo penetration. Once they do there will be a lot of open looks.
But Ray and Paul need to play better, that is the bottom line. They are both all star players and can contribute in other ways. We need to stop blaming Rondo for their poor play.I disagree, a lot. We WANT Rondo to be aggressive. RA / PP need to make an impact to the game in another way when someone is on fire offensively. To much standing around by PP / RA in the 3rd and 4th quarter. Find a way to make an impact and make a play. Rondo playing well doesn't stop them from playing well. No way.Im not blaming Rondo it's not a coincidence whenever Rondo scores a bunch of points the rest of the big 3 dont play good he doesnt co-exist well with the other guys they work better when he's a distributor I'm NEVER comfortable wit a point guard takin 30 shotsBen Gordon underachieves all year but then goes ham tonight smh unbelievable and we're not a better team when Rondo takes nearly 30 shots Pierce nd Ray were in a horrible rhythm cuz Rondo was overly aggressive
By all accounts: our D failed today.Sorta, our offense did fail to get three point shots. That is a big problem, we can't have only 6 three point shots and only one made (by Rondo!).
Not our O.
This team plays better on offense when the ball runs through Paul Pierce's hands
I agree BBall but this is the game thread and there is a vocal contingent in here that is dedicated to spreading "reality" and "truths" about this team and no amount of talking to them or showing proof that they could be wrong will dismay them from their appointed task of spreading these "realities" and "truths".
This team plays better on offense when the ball runs through Paul Pierce's hands
This isn't true at all.