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Title: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: FLCeltsFan on January 28, 2012, 05:21:26 PM
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Cleveland Cavaliers (7-11) at Boston Celtics (9-9)
Sunday, January 29
Regular Season Game #19, Home Game #12
TV:  CSN-NE,  FSO,  NBA-LP 751/752
Radio:  WEEI,  WTAM
TD Garden 

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Probable Starters
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Avery Bradley.......Ray Allen.......Paul Pierce.......Kevin Garnett...... Jermaine O'Neal

Boston Bench
Marquis Daniels
Chris Wilcox
Brandon Bass
E'Twaun Moore
JaJuan Johnson
Greg Siemsma
Sasha Pavlovic 
Mickael Pietrus


Injured

Ray Allen (ankle)  probable
Jermaine O'Neal (knee) day to day
Keyon Dooling (hip)  day to day
Rajon Rondo (wrist)  day to day

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Probable Starters
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Kyrie Irving.....Anthony Parker.....Omri Casspi....Antawn Jamison.....Anderson Varejao

Cleveland Bench
Tristan Thompson
Ryan Hollins
Alonzo Gee
Ramon Sessions
Daniel Gibson
Samardo Samuels
Semih Erden
Christian Eyenga
Luke Harangody
Mychal Thompson

Injuries
None reported 

Team Connections
Tristan Thompson, Daniel Gibson and Avery Bradley attended the University Texas
Sasha Pavlovic played for the Cavaliers for five seasons, 2004-2009
Semih Erden and Luke Harangody were both drafted by Boston in the second round of the 2008 and 2010 NBA Draft respectively and each spent part of the 2010-2011 season with the Celtics before being traded to the Cavaliers.

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Key Matchups
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Paul Pierce vs Omri Casspi
Paul Pierce has lifted his game to another level during the Celtics' 4 game win streak.  He should be able to have another big game in this one in spite of playing big minutes the past 2 games.   It's good to have him back to being the Truth!

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Jermaine O'Neal vs Anderson Varejao
This will be a tough matchup for the Celtics.  Varejao plays with a lot of energy and also plays rough.  JO will have his hands full trying to hold Varejao down. 

Honorable Mention
Avery Bradley vs Kyrie Irving
Bradley will need to use his defensive skills on Irving, who is an early candidate for Rookie of the Year. 

Game Notes

This is the first meeting between these two teams and is the first game in the Celtics third home and home series this season.  They fared very well in their first two home and home series, sweeping both the Wizards and the Magic in the previous two.   

 Last season the Celtics won the series 2-1 with the loss coming in the second game of the season, the night after their big win over the Heat.   The Cavs have struggled since LeBron went to South Beach and took his talents with him.  Their wins have come against other struggling teams, including Detroit, New Jersey, Charlotte, and Minnesota.  But, if the Celtics don't stay focused and play them tough, they do have enough talent to pull out a win. 

The Celtics should get Ray Allen and Jermaine O'Neal back for this game as both have said they are targeting this game for their return.  It will be interesting to see how the change in the lineup will change the chemistry and play of the team that has won 4 in a row.  It will definitely make the bench better with the reinsertion of Pietrus and Bass. 

This could be a trap game if the Celtics come into it thinking they can with it without putting out the effort.   They need to play the Cavs as hard as they would the Magic or the Lakers, or the Pacers.  If they do, then their win streak should reach 5.

Keys to the Game
Focus - The Celtics have shown that when they come out focused and keep their intensity, especially on defense, throughout the game, they win.  They need to stay focused now that they have proved that they can beat the better teams and not play down to the Cavs level.  They must also focus on taking care of the ball and limiting turnovers. 

Rebound -  Rebounding is mostly desire and effort.   When the Celtics put out the effort to out-rebound their opponents, they usually get the win.   When they put the effort in to crash the boards, that effort also tends to show in other areas of the game as well.  They out-rebounded the Magic and the Pacers, both good rebounding teams, because they made the effort to hustle for every rebound.  They need to continue to do that.

Defense -  Defense is the key to every game.  The Celtics won banner 17 with defense and if they want to win banner 18 they must once again do it with defense.  They have played that kind of defense in their last 3 games vs the Magic and the Pacers.  They have to continue to make defense a priority and not allow any easy baskets. 

X-Factors[/b]
Focus and Energy
If the focus and energy are there, the Celtics will win.  If they lose focus and feel they can play less than their best because of the Cavs record, then they may be surprised. 
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: letsgoblue86 on January 28, 2012, 11:45:17 PM
TP, for another job well done.  It will be nice to have JO and Ray back in the lineup. Hopefully we can jump out and get the younger guys minutes.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: ACF on January 29, 2012, 12:49:27 AM
TP. Go Celtics!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: j804 on January 29, 2012, 02:03:11 AM
TP, for another job well done.  It will be nice to have JO and Ray back in the lineup. Hopefully we can jump out and get the younger guys minutes.
Yup, but if things aren't working out would Doc not hesitate and pull Rondo for Bradley? Or go with Pietrus over Ray in crunch time? I know it's just Cleveland but curious to see how things will unfold because the guys playing now have been on a roll.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: FLCeltsFan on January 29, 2012, 01:10:46 PM
Official Report
Marc Davis
Davis has been an NBA official for the past 14 seasons, working 802 regular season games and 35 playoff games, and the 2007 NBA All-Star Game. Davis officited his first two Finals games during the 2010-11 season. In addition to his NBA experience, Davis has three years of CBA officiating experience, and three
years of collegiate basketball officiating experience. Davis was investigated for threatening to whoop Allen Iverson's a** when AI complained about a call in a game in 2005, but was not suspended for it. The Celtics are 8-2 in their last 10 games with Davis officiating and have won the last 8 games he has called. The Cavs are 2-8 in their last 10 games with Davis on the court. His home W/L record is 7-6.

Eric Lewis
This is Lewis' seventh season as an NBA official. He has 427 regular season games and six playoff games. Prior to the NBA he worked three seasons in the NBA Development League, where he worked the 2004 D-League Finals and the 2003 and 2004 Playoffs. He also has 8 years experience calling college games and 6 years officiating high school games. In the offseason he works with troubled teens. The Celtics are 6-4 in their last 10 games with Lewis as a ref. The free throw totals were fairly close in all 4 losses with opponents taking 95 free throws and the Celtics taking 91 over the 4 games. The Cavs are 5-5 in their last 10 games with Lewis. His home W/L record this season is 10-6.

Scott Wall
The son of former USA Basketball Director Bill Wall, Scott Wall has officiated
908 regular season games and five playoff games over his past 16 NBA seasons. In addition to his NBA experience, Wall has four years of officiating experience for
USA Basketball, four years of collegiate officiating experience in the college ranks, and five years of high school officiating experience in Kansas
and Alabama. The Celtics are 5-5 in their last 10 games with Wall as an official. The Cavs are 3-7 in their last 10 games with Wall. His home W/L record this season is 9-3.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Celtics18 on January 29, 2012, 01:20:43 PM
TP to FLCeltsFan for another great game thread.

Do you really think JO will be playing today?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: 33-00-32 on January 29, 2012, 01:29:20 PM
Nice work again FL, TP! Go Celts!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Surferdad on January 29, 2012, 02:23:45 PM
I'm going to the game thanks to a last minute ticket that appeared for me.  8)   First one this season.

C's should take this one.  In the past, hasn't Pierce been matched with Jamison?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: FLCeltsFan on January 29, 2012, 03:15:41 PM
TP to FLCeltsFan for another great game thread.

Do you really think JO will be playing today?

I was just going by a quote of his saying he'd be playing today.  But he may get overruled by Doc.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: FLCeltsFan on January 29, 2012, 04:53:22 PM
SherrodbCSN A. Sherrod Blakely
#Celtics Rajon Rondo expected to not play tonight. Ray Allen is expected to play. JO up in the air. Dooling doubtful.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: letsgoblue86 on January 29, 2012, 04:58:48 PM
SherrodbCSN A. Sherrod Blakely
#Celtics Rajon Rondo expected to not play tonight. Ray Allen is expected to play. JO up in the air. Dooling doubtful.
We don't need Rondo! We've got the captain!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Kiorrik on January 29, 2012, 05:01:32 PM
I'm going to the game thanks to a last minute ticket that appeared for me.  8)   First one this season.

C's should take this one.  In the past, hasn't Pierce been matched with Jamison?
Awesomesauce. Have fun man :D

Also: TP FLCetsFan ;)
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: TheTruthFot18 on January 29, 2012, 05:59:13 PM
Just glad Ray is back. No need to rush Rondo, needs to be healthy.

I hate to say it should be an easy win, but you never know. C's are on a roll right now and a good bashing seems possible.

Ray and Pietrus gonna be raining 3's
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Jaycelt on January 29, 2012, 06:02:31 PM
It sure would be great to get into the plus column for wins/losses.  Lets go Celtics!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Chief on January 29, 2012, 06:14:14 PM
I love KG in the post.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: 33-00-32 on January 29, 2012, 06:15:01 PM
Nice to have Ray back!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: TenaciousD on January 29, 2012, 06:15:12 PM
Just glad Ray is back. No need to rush Rondo, needs to be healthy.
  Is Jo starting? If so, a sign Doc is going away from recent success to the old forumlae (sigh).

Never mind, its Bass.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Chief on January 29, 2012, 06:15:34 PM
I love KG in the post.

and Pierce the playmaker.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: 33-00-32 on January 29, 2012, 06:16:17 PM
Just glad Ray is back. No need to rush Rondo, needs to be healthy.
  Is Jo starting? If so, a sign Doc is going away from recent success to the old forumlae (sigh).
JO is out
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: CelticSooner on January 29, 2012, 06:16:56 PM
Wow

Ray gets murdered no call.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Chief on January 29, 2012, 06:17:32 PM
Why is Bradley such a slouchy dribbler?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: heitingas on January 29, 2012, 06:20:35 PM
dull crowd, sounds like they are doing a scrimmage in the gym...
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: snively on January 29, 2012, 06:24:19 PM
Some nice passing from the Cavs.  Look like a well-coached offensive team. 
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Chief on January 29, 2012, 06:25:09 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing Tristan Thompson play.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Change on January 29, 2012, 06:26:29 PM
Why is Bradley such a slouchy dribbler?

old man posture
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Chief on January 29, 2012, 06:27:37 PM
Some nice passing from the Cavs.  Look like a well-coached offensive team. 

Looks like a Euro team.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: snively on January 29, 2012, 06:28:10 PM
Varejao is quite a player.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: PosImpos on January 29, 2012, 06:28:37 PM
Why is Bradley such a slouchy dribbler?

I've often wondered that myself.  Bradley always looks like he's slinking around the court, like he's trying to be sneaky or something.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: snively on January 29, 2012, 06:28:53 PM
Why is Bradley such a slouchy dribbler?

old man posture

Jordan Crawford does the same thing. 
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: dtrader on January 29, 2012, 06:29:16 PM
Cavs do move the ball very well.  And Varejao is def. one of those players you hate playing against, but love on your team.  Seems like he's everywhere.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: PosImpos on January 29, 2012, 06:31:07 PM
Wilcox looks a lot better.  Nice to see the work on the offensive boards.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: snively on January 29, 2012, 06:36:56 PM
Wilcox looks a lot better.  Nice to see the work on the offensive boards.

Yep.  He's been pretty good on the boards all season.  Getting into rhythm with Pierce and Garnett bringing his offensive skills to the fore.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: 33-00-32 on January 29, 2012, 06:42:09 PM
Seems like I can't help but say it every game....Marquis looks terrible. He should the last option off the bench.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: dtrader on January 29, 2012, 06:42:38 PM
They're killing us with the pick and rolls. Bigs need to step up and clog the lane.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: snively on January 29, 2012, 06:43:14 PM
In what universe is that a shooting foul?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: 33-00-32 on January 29, 2012, 06:45:26 PM
We're playing a lot of D from behind, they're really penetrating every time down the court. I think that's their youth versus our age.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: snively on January 29, 2012, 06:45:42 PM
That should have been off Sessions.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on January 29, 2012, 06:46:45 PM
Wilcox looks a lot better.  Nice to see the work on the offensive boards.

He's been pretty good the last 3 or 4 games.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Tgro on January 29, 2012, 06:47:00 PM
We aren't playing too terribly bad but Cleveland doesn't look afraid of us at all. Their pace may wear us down if we don't get them off their game. We're throwing the ball away too much and keeping them confident that they can beat us.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Eja117 on January 29, 2012, 06:47:12 PM
I hate these games where the other team is too young, stupid, and athletic to know they're supposed to lose
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: 2dark on January 29, 2012, 06:47:40 PM
Looking ok, waiting us to shift gear up, ray ray smoth as always
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: 33-00-32 on January 29, 2012, 06:48:06 PM
I hate these games where the other team is too young, stupid, and athletic to know they're supposed to lose

^^^agree
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Change on January 29, 2012, 06:49:05 PM
Cavs did their homework abusing Chris Wilcox on Pick and roll. Dude is stiff on defense.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: CelticSooner on January 29, 2012, 06:49:44 PM
Yea, the Cavs won't be going away easily. Trying to wear the starters out.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: guava_wrench on January 29, 2012, 06:50:00 PM
Careless with the ball.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: snively on January 29, 2012, 06:50:06 PM
Pierce having a tough game passing the ball.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: letsgoblue86 on January 29, 2012, 06:50:37 PM
No love from the refs again...
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: PosImpos on January 29, 2012, 06:51:43 PM
Why does Avery keep shooting?  Dude's nickname should be "Mason" with all of the bricks he lays.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: 33-00-32 on January 29, 2012, 06:52:11 PM
Avery + Offense = putrid
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Eja117 on January 29, 2012, 06:52:38 PM
No love from the refs again...
the horrific reffing started early tonite
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: PosImpos on January 29, 2012, 06:52:51 PM
Ray looks very spry.  Should shut up the people who wondered if we were better without him.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: PosImpos on January 29, 2012, 06:53:54 PM
C's playing incredibly sloppy.  We'd be blowing them out, it seems, if not for all of the fast break points we've given up.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: PosImpos on January 29, 2012, 06:54:33 PM
That's some old school shizz right there.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: CelticSooner on January 29, 2012, 06:54:39 PM
Captain!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: 2dark on January 29, 2012, 06:56:04 PM
ouch c'tain 6 TOs already...pretty fly dunk though ;D
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: dtrader on January 29, 2012, 06:56:19 PM
I love the way Pierce is attacking and shooting well, but he's been careless with the passes.  If he can tighten that up, we'll be in great shape here. I'd like to see more Wilcox too.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: henr1k on January 29, 2012, 06:57:00 PM
Vintage Pierce with the dunk  :D

He is struggling with ball handling tonight though. Already 6 turnovers.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Tgro on January 29, 2012, 06:57:42 PM
If not for the turnovers, we'd be killing them and pulling away.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on January 29, 2012, 06:57:53 PM
Pierce continues to look smooth out there...
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: PosImpos on January 29, 2012, 06:58:08 PM
Dang Bass.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: CelticSooner on January 29, 2012, 06:58:28 PM
I love seeing that jump stop jam by Bass.

*sippin*
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Eja117 on January 29, 2012, 06:58:41 PM
sometimes I think Bass is too unselfish
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: henr1k on January 29, 2012, 06:59:03 PM
Bass. Boom.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: 33-00-32 on January 29, 2012, 07:00:36 PM
sometimes I think Bass is too unselfish
Really? Never would have thought that.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Eja117 on January 29, 2012, 07:01:31 PM
Mrs. eja just said "that white dude is so ugly". I said "The one with the huge hair?" She said yes. I explained that's a Brazilian guy named Varajao and she's not the first person to point that out
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: ejk3489 on January 29, 2012, 07:02:29 PM
That was an ugly 25 seconds.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: letsgoblue86 on January 29, 2012, 07:03:27 PM
Jeeeez, that was not a pretty first half.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on January 29, 2012, 07:03:43 PM
Pierce needs to look for his shot more he's had hella turnovers being a playmaker they have nobody who can guard him
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: 33-00-32 on January 29, 2012, 07:04:29 PM
Pretty ugly half. Hopefully Doc can get them to focus and cut down on the turnovers. Ray is playing great!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: dtrader on January 29, 2012, 07:05:52 PM
Cavs are playing real smart basketball.  Started the game killing up with the pick and roll, then worked in some pick and pops.  We've been pretty dependent on isolations to score.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Tgro on January 29, 2012, 07:06:01 PM
Not that we're far ahead of them considering where we've came from, but are we playing down to the Cav's level tonight? They seem up for us and we seem a bit down for them and we're meeting right at the middle for a much closer game than it looks like it should be.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Chief on January 29, 2012, 07:09:54 PM
I thought the team looked good on offense although the score does not quite reflect that.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: 33-00-32 on January 29, 2012, 07:24:50 PM
Come on KG finish that!

Edit: I guess he got hit pretty hard.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: dtrader on January 29, 2012, 07:25:55 PM
kg should have dunked that instead of reversing =/
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: 33-00-32 on January 29, 2012, 07:27:41 PM
That call was so late!! I hate that!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: CelticSooner on January 29, 2012, 07:30:02 PM
How you gonna leave him open like that?

haha
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: ejk3489 on January 29, 2012, 07:30:22 PM
Ray Allen laughs at everyone who said we were better off without him.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Eja117 on January 29, 2012, 07:30:40 PM
Do you think every once in a while Doc wants to say to Tommy "How did you ever coach a team to a ring? Shut up"?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on January 29, 2012, 07:30:57 PM
"Celtics match their biggest lead of the night up three..."

Some things just don't need to be said, Tommy.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Marcus13 on January 29, 2012, 07:31:14 PM
Ray Allen laughs at everyone who said we were better off without him.

knew that would be a short-lasting thought
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Tgro on January 29, 2012, 07:31:19 PM
Big 3 are playing well tonight!

It feels like all we need is one really good run and this game would be over.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on January 29, 2012, 07:31:22 PM
Ray seems to have not missed a beat..wow.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Eja117 on January 29, 2012, 07:31:35 PM
Ray Allen laughs at everyone who said we were better off without him.
If so they better beat the Cavs at home or he'll hear it again
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: dtrader on January 29, 2012, 07:32:42 PM
Great shot by Pierce, great shot by Ray.

Also, even though he's getting some calls against him, I like the toughness Wilcox is giving us down low.  

If we can keep the turnovers at bay, I think we've got this.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Change on January 29, 2012, 07:33:52 PM
I think the days Ray running around 1000 screens days are over. Too time consuming in 24sec shot clock
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: CelticSooner on January 29, 2012, 07:34:36 PM
C's defense is tightening up.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: dtrader on January 29, 2012, 07:35:11 PM
Nice drive by Avery.  If he can keep doing that, I might lay off him lol
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Chief on January 29, 2012, 07:35:32 PM
Nice drive.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: CelticSooner on January 29, 2012, 07:36:32 PM
That was 2001 Captain
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Chief on January 29, 2012, 07:36:48 PM
Wilcox is a good roller.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on January 29, 2012, 07:38:05 PM
Wonderful play by Pierce to get that layup. Wow.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Tgro on January 29, 2012, 07:38:55 PM
Much better this half!  8)
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Change on January 29, 2012, 07:39:03 PM
Wilcox worst hedger ever. stiff on defense.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: CelticSooner on January 29, 2012, 07:40:10 PM
Goosebumps
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Tgro on January 29, 2012, 07:40:54 PM
Pierce is feeling it!!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: TenaciousD on January 29, 2012, 07:44:40 PM
Trending the right way. Keep 'em on their heels.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Change on January 29, 2012, 07:46:54 PM
I wanna make u dance said Pierce to Thompson. Sick Move!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on January 29, 2012, 07:47:21 PM
Boston's doing alright, but man, they're doing some boneheaded things to keep Cleveland in this. Getting blocked, turnovers. Boston should be up at least 15 at this point.

Of course, the refs are doing their best to keep Cleveland in it.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on January 29, 2012, 07:49:29 PM
so that tie-up on KG is the third block by cleveland in the last two minutes ... ridiculous.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on January 29, 2012, 07:53:03 PM
Boston's doing alright, but man, they're doing some boneheaded things to keep Cleveland in this. Getting blocked, turnovers. Boston should be up at least 15 at this point.

Of course, the refs are doing their best to keep Cleveland in it.

Lockout-season basketball at its finest.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on January 29, 2012, 07:54:18 PM
Boston's doing alright, but man, they're doing some boneheaded things to keep Cleveland in this. Getting blocked, turnovers. Boston should be up at least 15 at this point.

Of course, the refs are doing their best to keep Cleveland in it.

Lockout-season basketball at its finest.

And cleveland keeps getting points off broken plays. This game is frustrating me. Please just end.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Tgro on January 29, 2012, 07:55:47 PM
I like Sasha!!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: CelticSooner on January 29, 2012, 07:58:07 PM
That pick and pop for Bass is just money.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on January 29, 2012, 07:59:13 PM
Great fake and finish by Sasha, and great moves by E'Twaun -- that's more like it!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Marcus13 on January 29, 2012, 08:00:37 PM
Great game for Ray
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: aporel#18 on January 29, 2012, 08:01:31 PM
Ray is money!

By the way, watching Semih in Scott's doghouse is "turrible". Can we send Steamer for Semih? I think Semih was way better than Stiemmsma, and he was playing with an injured shoulder.

Go Celtics!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Change on January 29, 2012, 08:03:25 PM
Any update on Avery's status?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: ManUp on January 29, 2012, 08:03:53 PM
I can't express how happy I am with the BBD and Bass swap.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Marcus13 on January 29, 2012, 08:05:02 PM
Any update on Avery's status?

They said he just needed to get it re-taped and he'd return...they prolly wont put him in unless Cleveland makes a run here though
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: ManUp on January 29, 2012, 08:08:17 PM
Pierce with 7 turn overs today.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: CelticSooner on January 29, 2012, 08:08:57 PM
I can't express how happy I am with the BBD and Bass swap.

I would thank Howard and Smith personally for that trade.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Marcus13 on January 29, 2012, 08:10:19 PM
Tell me we're not blowing this game right now..
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: hpantazo on January 29, 2012, 08:10:30 PM
wow, what a terrible no call on the last Pierce play!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: CelticSooner on January 29, 2012, 08:10:36 PM
Refs have let Cleveland hang all night.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: ejk3489 on January 29, 2012, 08:10:43 PM
Ugh @ that no call...terrible.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Tgro on January 29, 2012, 08:11:03 PM
Worst no call of the season!  >:(
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on January 29, 2012, 08:11:55 PM
Sigh. Isn't there a Cleveland feed I can watch? I need less yelling in my life.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on January 29, 2012, 08:12:02 PM
Wow. the return of boneheaded plays. Pierce - turnover. ray - missed layup. Pierce - fails to draw the foul. Defense - failing to get the rebound. Great.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Marcus13 on January 29, 2012, 08:12:20 PM
i dont like putting Bradley in here at all
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: TenaciousD on January 29, 2012, 08:12:22 PM
Hm... getting a little close for comfort. Close the door, score and a stop.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: CelticSooner on January 29, 2012, 08:13:07 PM
Yikes
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Marcus13 on January 29, 2012, 08:13:19 PM
This veteran squad cant blow a game to a young, inexperienced team like this.  That is going to really show something
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: ManUp on January 29, 2012, 08:13:30 PM
Anyone notice Varejao flopping his butt off in the corner?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on January 29, 2012, 08:13:53 PM
Aaaaaand ... another offensive rebound allowed.  >:(
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on January 29, 2012, 08:14:03 PM
Yikes..getting close
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: greensquirrel on January 29, 2012, 08:14:08 PM
I can't believe what's happenning.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: ejk3489 on January 29, 2012, 08:14:15 PM
Crap KG...
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Marcus13 on January 29, 2012, 08:14:18 PM
Garnett, you IDIOT!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: CelticSooner on January 29, 2012, 08:14:25 PM
Crap
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Chief on January 29, 2012, 08:14:33 PM
Give it to Pierce.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: ManUp on January 29, 2012, 08:14:35 PM
Yes KG you DID travel!

Wouldn't have happened if you just went up with the ball.

I mean you were right in front of the basket.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: green7 on January 29, 2012, 08:14:41 PM
This veteran squad cant blow a game to a young, inexperienced team like this.  That is going to really show something

it would show that ray being in the game is the cause of this team losing. look at the ball it's moving super slow
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: CelticSooner on January 29, 2012, 08:15:04 PM
C's can't get a foul
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Marcus13 on January 29, 2012, 08:15:09 PM
What an embarrassing collapse.

Pathetic.  Absolutely pathetic.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: TenaciousD on January 29, 2012, 08:15:16 PM
Houston, we have a problem...
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: GronkSpike on January 29, 2012, 08:15:36 PM
Mother of god! :o
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Marcus13 on January 29, 2012, 08:15:44 PM
This veteran squad cant blow a game to a young, inexperienced team like this.  That is going to really show something

it would show that ray being in the game is the cause of this team losing. look at the ball it's moving super slow

lol except for he's been the reason we're in the game all night
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: JumpingJudkins on January 29, 2012, 08:16:14 PM
Why doesn't Garnett shoot the ?!#$!!!! ball?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: henr1k on January 29, 2012, 08:16:38 PM
Wow, so many offensive rebounds by Cavs in last 3 minutes.  >:(
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: letsgoblue86 on January 29, 2012, 08:16:56 PM
Tommy is right, these refs should be fired!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: ejk3489 on January 29, 2012, 08:17:04 PM
Wow...
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Marcus13 on January 29, 2012, 08:17:13 PM
What an awful last three minutes of this game.  Every single player on the team should feel stupid
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: ManUp on January 29, 2012, 08:17:21 PM
Wow, Kyrie Irving goes where he wants when he wants.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: JumpingJudkins on January 29, 2012, 08:17:26 PM
Don't deserve to win this one.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Chief on January 29, 2012, 08:17:27 PM
Ouch!!! Go 2 Pierce!!!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: gar on January 29, 2012, 08:17:31 PM
Not clear what the C's were thinking here. They need to play like a veteran team.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: CelticSooner on January 29, 2012, 08:17:38 PM
Ugh

These type of losses are a killer.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: ManUp on January 29, 2012, 08:17:54 PM
Let's go Celtics!!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Marcus13 on January 29, 2012, 08:18:01 PM
a 12-0 run.  I dont know whats been worse ; our offense or our defense

We should have left Pierce and KG on the bench and went with the lineup that was working
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on January 29, 2012, 08:18:09 PM
Ouch. Poor focus down the stretch definitely led to this.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Tgro on January 29, 2012, 08:18:17 PM
Oh no! How can this be?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on January 29, 2012, 08:18:22 PM
great turnover by kg, and great lack of hustle by boston on the defensive boards .... aaaaaand there's the game on a layup. nice.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: henr1k on January 29, 2012, 08:18:35 PM
If we lose this one we will undo everything good that 's happened this week
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Chief on January 29, 2012, 08:19:14 PM
This is why Doc makes the big bucks.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Marcus13 on January 29, 2012, 08:19:41 PM
Prediction has to be a Pierce mid range brick
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Change on January 29, 2012, 08:19:56 PM
Why doesn't Garnett shoot the ?!#$!!!! ball?

KG is guard in big man body. he doesn't know what to do in the paint.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on January 29, 2012, 08:20:18 PM
Prediction has to be a Pierce mid range brick

i'm gonna go with dribble off the foot
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Marcus13 on January 29, 2012, 08:20:24 PM
Prediction has to be a Pierce mid range brick

Im money
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: illestmcsgt on January 29, 2012, 08:20:55 PM
I'm at a loss for words...
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Chief on January 29, 2012, 08:20:56 PM
Bad loss. :-[
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: CelticSooner on January 29, 2012, 08:20:57 PM
Well the C's just blew that one. It happens but it never gets any easier to take.

 >:(
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Rondo2287 on January 29, 2012, 08:21:20 PM
Prediction has to be a Pierce mid range brick

Im money

Congrats, I would rather the Celts win than be right, but oh well, thats just me
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on January 29, 2012, 08:21:36 PM
[dang] our offense just sputtered in the last 4 minutes we'll get out revenge on tuesday
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: letsgoblue86 on January 29, 2012, 08:22:21 PM
So p---ed right now.  Refs bring it home for Cleveland with some cheap calls.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on January 29, 2012, 08:22:55 PM
Wow.

Could not see the game, unfortunately, but it looks like we gave this one away?

I thought Boston was due for a game like this.

We've had an incredible run the last few games, though...but this is one we should've had.

I see some comments about Ray - are we really THAT different a team with him in there? Or does the reason we lost tonight lie somewhere else?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: ejk3489 on January 29, 2012, 08:22:56 PM
Did that really just happen...? Awful.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on January 29, 2012, 08:23:30 PM
Aaaaaand here come the "blow it up because Pierce/KG/Allen is washed up" threads.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: aporel#18 on January 29, 2012, 08:23:53 PM
Ok, Celtics got overcomfy in the end, wasting away 9 straight possessions... you can't lose your focus even against the Cavs. Ouch.

Forget this game, watch the 4th quarter film to learn from it, and win the next one. Good night to all.

Go Celtics!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: ManUp on January 29, 2012, 08:23:57 PM
Meh...

After these last four games this loss means nothing to me.

We let them hang all game and they still had a run left in them.

Let's see what happens next game.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: hpantazo on January 29, 2012, 08:24:39 PM
Just like last year's team, we don't get up for mediocre opponents.  Not surprising, and somewhat reassuring in a way.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Change on January 29, 2012, 08:27:16 PM
Pierce nonchalant with the ball. KG was soft inside the paint. 11 of Celtics 16 came from those two.

below .500 again. ugh!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on January 29, 2012, 08:28:31 PM
Aaaaaand here come the "blow it up because Pierce/KG/Allen is washed up" threads.
you kno its comin im dissapointed ova the loss but this is stuff you can correct pierce wont have tht many turnovers on tuesday against these guys we'll bounce back
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: henr1k on January 29, 2012, 08:29:16 PM
Unbelievable. WOW. 12-0 run in last 4 minutes. I feel sick atm.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: PosImpos on January 29, 2012, 08:29:48 PM
Kyrie Irving is a legit player.  He really exposed Avery . . . Avery couldn't defend him to save his life, and he was a non-factor on offense.

Yet another indefensible 4th quarter collapse by this team.  They seemed to give up after that non-call on the foul on Pierce.

I guess it was a good effort all things considered, but really if you look at the rosters there's no reason the Cavs should be able to hang around.  The Celtics just allowed the Cavs to play the game at their pace and they were sloppy the entire game.

The Cavs did a good job totally exposing the Celtics' lack of an inside game.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: hpantazo on January 29, 2012, 08:29:54 PM
on a separate note, the all-star 20 ppg Marshon Brooks that we gave up for JJJ had 6 points on 3-10 shooting in a loss tonight.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: PosImpos on January 29, 2012, 08:30:21 PM
Celtics still can't get over .500.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on January 29, 2012, 08:30:39 PM
Well, we could be ORL..they are getting destroyed at home by Indy right now.

Looks like 5 losses in a row for them.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Adelaide Celt on January 29, 2012, 08:31:25 PM
I feel sorry for the fans at the Garden. That is as pathetic a loss as you can get. WEAK >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: green7 on January 29, 2012, 08:31:34 PM
i know what to expect from ray shots shots shots but a everything moves slow with him in the starting line up no energy no ball movement just OLDNESS
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: CelticSooner on January 29, 2012, 08:32:28 PM
Wow.

Could not see the game, unfortunately, but it looks like we gave this one away?

I thought Boston was due for a game like this.

We've had an incredible run the last few games, though...but this is one we should've had.

I see some comments about Ray - are we really THAT different a team with him in there? Or does the reason we lost tonight lie somewhere else?

They let up and you throw in the refs being bad this what you get. Doc waited too long to put the starters back in.

C's just need to win the rematch Tuesday. Gave this young team confidence though.  >:(
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Tradetime on January 29, 2012, 08:32:35 PM
This tends to happen when the big three are out there together. They get a lead and then play lackadaisically. It was worse when Rondo was pounding the ball, so I didn't necessarily expect a loss here tonight.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: PosImpos on January 29, 2012, 08:33:00 PM
Well, we could be ORL..they are getting destroyed at home by Indy right now.

Looks like 5 losses in a row for them.

The Magic are a gutless team . . . with this Dwight Howard stuff hanging over them, they're primed for a collapse.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on January 29, 2012, 08:34:05 PM
Kyrie Irving is a legit player.  He really exposed Avery . . . Avery couldn't defend him to save his life, and he was a non-factor on offense.

Yet another indefensible 4th quarter collapse by this team.  They seemed to give up after that non-call on the foul on Pierce.

I guess it was a good effort all things considered, but really if you look at the rosters there's no reason the Cavs should be able to hang around.  The Celtics just allowed the Cavs to play the game at their pace and they were sloppy the entire game.

The Cavs did a good job totally exposing the Celtics' lack of an inside game.
These things can be adjusted we didnt get dominated tonight it'll be a different result on tuesday i aint like the other bi-polar posters on here lol
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: PosImpos on January 29, 2012, 08:34:20 PM
All I can say is that I cannot wait until this team has an inside game again.

Probably won't happen until the Big 3 are long gone, though.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: PosImpos on January 29, 2012, 08:35:29 PM
Kyrie Irving is a legit player.  He really exposed Avery . . . Avery couldn't defend him to save his life, and he was a non-factor on offense.

Yet another indefensible 4th quarter collapse by this team.  They seemed to give up after that non-call on the foul on Pierce.

I guess it was a good effort all things considered, but really if you look at the rosters there's no reason the Cavs should be able to hang around.  The Celtics just allowed the Cavs to play the game at their pace and they were sloppy the entire game.

The Cavs did a good job totally exposing the Celtics' lack of an inside game.
These things can be adjusted we didnt get dominated tonight it'll be a different result on tuesday i aint like the other bi-polar posters on here lol

No, we didn't get dominated.  But all of the reasons we lost tonight are recurring themes that have plagued this team the past few years, but are worse this year -- turnovers, second chance points, no inside game, 4th quarter collapses, allowing opposing point guards to score a ton of points, etc.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Adelaide Celt on January 29, 2012, 08:36:23 PM
I'm struggling to think of a worse capitulation in the Big 3 era.

Seriously not gonna be able to sleep now cos of this crap.

CRAP CRAP CRAP
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on January 29, 2012, 08:36:26 PM
All I can say is that I cannot wait until this team has an inside game again.

Probably won't happen until the Big 3 are long gone, though.

Let's be fair, here. There aren't many teams with a true inside game.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: European NBA fan on January 29, 2012, 08:36:43 PM
I would have preferred Moore closing in stead of Bradley, and perhaps Pietrus in stead of Ray. Ray had a great game on offense, but I don't feel comfortable with his defense, when we are in the lead and need to keep the game under control.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: green7 on January 29, 2012, 08:38:24 PM
This tends to happen when the big three are out there together. They get a lead and then play lackadaisically. It was worse when Rondo was pounding the ball, so I didn't necessarily expect a loss here tonight.
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agreed
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Eja117 on January 29, 2012, 08:38:33 PM
Well, we could be ORL..they are getting destroyed at home by Indy right now.

Looks like 5 losses in a row for them.

The Magic are a gutless team . . . with this Dwight Howard stuff hanging over them, they're primed for a collapse.
agreed
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: PosImpos on January 29, 2012, 08:38:46 PM
All I can say is that I cannot wait until this team has an inside game again.

Probably won't happen until the Big 3 are long gone, though.

Let's be fair, here. There aren't many teams with a true inside game.

teams with bigs that can actually get points in the paint?  there are plenty of teams that do that.  the Celtics don't even have a single player on the team who can get 10+ points per game in the paint, other than perhaps Rondo, who is wildly inconsistent as a scorer, and disappears late in games.

the Cavs have a better inside game just by having Anderson Varejao.  

not many teams have a legit post-up threat, but you don't necessarily need a go-to post scorer to have an inside game. you just need to have guys that can slash to the rim and also finish high-percentage shots inside reliably.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: greenhead85 on January 29, 2012, 08:40:00 PM
Ray had 36 mins, KG had 31 and PP had 35 mins. The production of the others suffered once again because Doc is so stupidly adamant of giving them less playing time when the Old Three are all playing together. The less privileged (players who get little PTs) will all the more lose the confidence that they had started to build on from the last 3 games.

Doc, you are destroying all the positives that the team were getting from recent games.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Eja117 on January 29, 2012, 08:40:39 PM
I have a crazy theory the Cavs are better than the Magic
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on January 29, 2012, 08:40:57 PM
Kyrie Irving is a legit player.  He really exposed Avery . . . Avery couldn't defend him to save his life, and he was a non-factor on offense.

Yet another indefensible 4th quarter collapse by this team.  They seemed to give up after that non-call on the foul on Pierce.

I guess it was a good effort all things considered, but really if you look at the rosters there's no reason the Cavs should be able to hang around.  The Celtics just allowed the Cavs to play the game at their pace and they were sloppy the entire game.

The Cavs did a good job totally exposing the Celtics' lack of an inside game.
These things can be adjusted we didnt get dominated tonight it'll be a different result on tuesday i aint like the other bi-polar posters on here lol

No, we didn't get dominated.  But all of the reasons we lost tonight are recurring themes that have plagued this team the past few years, but are worse this year -- turnovers, second chance points, no inside game, 4th quarter collapses, allowing opposing point guards to score a ton of points, etc.
all tht nd we lost by a point I think tonight's finish was disgusting but I'm confident we'll get our revenge against these guys on tuesday I'm not gona lose sleep ova this game cuz I kno those slight mistakes in execution will be corrected
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: TenaciousD on January 29, 2012, 08:43:02 PM
I would have preferred Moore closing in stead of Bradley, and perhaps Pietrus in stead of Ray. Ray had a great game on offense, but I don't feel comfortable with his defense, when we are in the lead and need to keep the game under control.

Agreed, and also perhaps Wilcox in there to sit on Sideshow Andy. Need another piece at F/C, and I dont mean JO/Sheed.  Young legs.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: theswitch on January 29, 2012, 08:44:14 PM
I didn't get to catch most of this game (second half) but the one thing that jumped out at me from the box score (other than Bradley getting killed) was that Chris Wilcox was 2-3 for 4 points, 6 rebounds, a block, a steal and a huge +15, by far the most for either team. I'm not sure if he had particularly good defense or screens or what it was, but the numbers suggest we did great with him on the floor.

Otherwise, sounds like we played fine and just had a last 3 minutes complete meltdown. Sucks, but I doubt it happens again.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: TenaciousD on January 29, 2012, 08:44:34 PM
Ray had 36 mins, KG had 31 and PP had 35 mins. The production of the others suffered once again Doc, you are destroying all the positives that the team were getting from recent games.

Am concered this might be the case. Wait til JO comes back, it will be business as usual.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on January 29, 2012, 08:46:15 PM
All I can say is that I cannot wait until this team has an inside game again.

Probably won't happen until the Big 3 are long gone, though.

Let's be fair, here. There aren't many teams with a true inside game.

teams with bigs that can actually get points in the paint?  there are plenty of teams that do that.  the Celtics don't even have a single player on the team who can get 10+ points per game in the paint, other than perhaps Rondo, who is wildly inconsistent as a scorer, and disappears late in games.

the Cavs have a better inside game just by having Anderson Varejao.  

not many teams have a legit post-up threat, but you don't necessarily need a go-to post scorer to have an inside game. you just need to have guys that can slash to the rim and also finish high-percentage shots inside reliably.

Inside scoring just isn't something that there's much variation in statistically. The difference between top 5 and top 20 is usually a matter of 3-4 points a game. Boston has been average in the Big 3 Era in terms of points in the paint.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: PosImpos on January 29, 2012, 08:49:29 PM
All I can say is that I cannot wait until this team has an inside game again.

Probably won't happen until the Big 3 are long gone, though.

Let's be fair, here. There aren't many teams with a true inside game.

teams with bigs that can actually get points in the paint?  there are plenty of teams that do that.  the Celtics don't even have a single player on the team who can get 10+ points per game in the paint, other than perhaps Rondo, who is wildly inconsistent as a scorer, and disappears late in games.

the Cavs have a better inside game just by having Anderson Varejao. 

not many teams have a legit post-up threat, but you don't necessarily need a go-to post scorer to have an inside game. you just need to have guys that can slash to the rim and also finish high-percentage shots inside reliably.

Inside scoring just isn't something that there's much variation in statistically. The difference between top 5 and top 20 is usually a matter of 3-4 points a game. Boston has been average in the Big 3 Era in terms of points in the paint.

The Celtics have been able to score in the paint okay by getting guys open during most of the game, but late in games they always go back to jumpshots and can't seem to buy a bucket inside to save their lives.

The problem is just exacerbated this season because they're starting two power forwards and only have one legit center on the roster.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on January 29, 2012, 08:57:27 PM
The Celtics have been able to score in the paint okay by getting guys open during most of the game, but late in games they always go back to jumpshots and can't seem to buy a bucket inside to save their lives.

The problem is just exacerbated this season because they're starting two power forwards and only have one legit center on the roster.

This I can agree with. However, I think that the problem of not having a Center is at least negated by the fact that having two quality PFs on the roster is more helpful than having a poor Center on the floor, which is going to be a sad reality in the NBA where the demand for starting caliber Centers greatly outweighs the supply of them. What they should be doing, in my opinion, is running plays where they get inside and draw contact rather than settling for jumpers in crunch time. This is just unfortunately a thing that a lot of teams refuse to do, including Boston.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 29, 2012, 09:11:55 PM
DIdn't see the game, recorded it, guess I won't watch it now.  :(

I has thought we had got over that hump and could beat the lower teams.  These are the must win games,   If we can't get to the point of where we can take out the teams below .500 . I don't see how we'll beat the  Heat , Bull, Mavs , OKC , Spurs , ect.  ???

I'm not feeling so good again, losing to poor teams at home is just bad news.

Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Tgro on January 29, 2012, 09:15:38 PM
I'm not going to read a lot into this game. It was a flukey game. 1 more basket by us or 1 less by them and we're sitting on a 5 game winning streak and thinking we're not that bad but nearly let one get away. In this case we did. I DON'T think the better team won. I thought we were the better team the whole game! We just kept leaving them in it and we didn't finish them off when we could have 3 or 4 times. We lost focus and thought we had them beaten when we didn't. Hopefully we learn from this. We're the same team that we was yesterday minus 1 losing basket tonight. The Cav's wanted it and they got it. We just choked.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: CelticSooner on January 29, 2012, 09:28:53 PM
I'm not going to read a lot into this game. It was a flukey game. 1 more basket by us or 1 less by them and we're sitting on a 5 game winning streak and thinking we're not that bad but nearly let one get away. In this case we did. I DON'T think the better team won. I thought we were the better team the whole game! We just kept leaving them in it and we didn't finish them off when we could have 3 or 4 times. We lost focus and thought we had them beaten when we didn't. Hopefully we learn from this. We're the same team that we was yesterday minus 1 losing basket tonight. The Cav's wanted it and they got it. We just choked.

Pretty much how I see it. Every team loses a game or two like this. It sucks but it happens. Just go out and get the W on Tuesday. Do not lose that game!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on January 29, 2012, 09:36:31 PM
I'm not going to read a lot into this game. It was a flukey game. 1 more basket by us or 1 less by them and we're sitting on a 5 game winning streak and thinking we're not that bad but nearly let one get away. In this case we did. I DON'T think the better team won. I thought we were the better team the whole game! We just kept leaving them in it and we didn't finish them off when we could have 3 or 4 times. We lost focus and thought we had them beaten when we didn't. Hopefully we learn from this. We're the same team that we was yesterday minus 1 losing basket tonight. The Cav's wanted it and they got it. We just choked.

Agreed. The Thunder lost to the Wizards, the Clippers got pounded by the Jazz, the Bulls lost to the Warriors, the Heat lost to the Bucks, the Spurs lost to the Kings, the Lakers lost to the Bucks, the Mavs lost to the Wolves (twice), the Nuggets lost to the Hornets, the Pacers lost to the Kings, the Sixers lost to the Nets. Will none of those teams win the title this year?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: vinnie on January 29, 2012, 10:01:53 PM
I'm not going to read a lot into this game. It was a flukey game. 1 more basket by us or 1 less by them and we're sitting on a 5 game winning streak and thinking we're not that bad but nearly let one get away. In this case we did. I DON'T think the better team won. I thought we were the better team the whole game! We just kept leaving them in it and we didn't finish them off when we could have 3 or 4 times. We lost focus and thought we had them beaten when we didn't. Hopefully we learn from this. We're the same team that we was yesterday minus 1 losing basket tonight. The Cav's wanted it and they got it. We just choked.

Agreed. The Thunder lost to the Wizards, the Clippers got pounded by the Jazz, the Bulls lost to the Warriors, the Heat lost to the Bucks, the Spurs lost to the Kings, the Lakers lost to the Bucks, the Mavs lost to the Wolves (twice), the Nuggets lost to the Hornets, the Pacers lost to the Kings, the Sixers lost to the Nets. Will none of those teams win the title this year?

Interesting thing is, I believe every example you listed, the team that had that fluke loss has a better record than the Celtics, in some cases much better, and all are above .500 for the year.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Who on January 29, 2012, 10:10:49 PM
The offense was really poor in the fourth quarter. No penetration in the halfcourt. Everything was in front of the defense. Easy to defend.

Bad loss. Shouldn't lose a game when you are up 10-12 points with four minutes left. Choked.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Celtics4ever on January 29, 2012, 10:25:12 PM
We lost because we played to the level of our opponents.  We took them lightly and we payed the price.

Donny is full of it.  With Bass starting we got zero pop from the bench tonight.  We got 14 points off the bench folks.  Cavs got that many from Gee and more from Sessions.  Pietrus was cold tonight.  Wilcox played ok off the bench but he and Moore were the only + guys off the bench and Ray was only starter + in eff.

Irving was 10-14 from the field.  If your stopper ain't stopping your going to loose
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Celtics18 on January 30, 2012, 03:13:17 AM
They didn't play a great game by any stretch of the imagination, but they certainly played well enough to win for 44 minutes of it.  Then, I think they thought the final buzzer rang 4 minutes before it actually did.

It's 48 minutes, guys.  48, not 44.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Drucci on January 30, 2012, 03:29:51 AM
What a bummer... I thought we let the Cavs too close during the entire game but didn't really ever thought they could win. Guess I was wrong, we paid the price of not killing them when we had to, kudos to them for showing poise down the stretch. Too bad we didn't...

It's inacceptable to lose a game like this at home, when you get Ray back, are on a 4 winning streak and finally have the chance to get over 50%. Total momentum breaker.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Kuberski1 on January 30, 2012, 07:25:26 AM
Arghh!!!   We go from just about the best type of win - overcome an almost insurmountable lead against a good team on the road, to the worst type of loss - a game just about wrapped up at home, riding a win streak, only to see the other team score the last 12  points of the game, with the winner on a drive with 2 secs left.  Geeeezzzz....
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 30, 2012, 08:02:43 AM

Dear Doc,

When you get somebody down in sports, you can't let up , don't ever turn the pressure off for a minute.  THeir team didn't roll over because the you had the lead.  They kept playing .

When you got an opponent down, you don't let him back in the game, or let him get up .

You step on their throats and finish them off.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (7-11) at Celtics (9-9) 1/29
Post by: Jaycelt on January 30, 2012, 08:52:31 AM
The offense was really poor in the fourth quarter. No penetration in the halfcourt. Everything was in front of the defense. Easy to defend.

Bad loss. Shouldn't lose a game when you are up 10-12 points with four minutes left. Choked.

Pierce played the entire 3rd quarter and I think Doc felt like the game was in hand.  Because of that he waited too long to put him back in the game at the end.  He didn't get back in until there was less than 4 minutes to go, but by then the momentum had swung way too much in Clevelands favor.  When your only healthy play maker only sees three and a half minutes in a quarter the offense is going to suffer.