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Title: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: FLCeltsFan on April 09, 2011, 03:56:04 PM
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Boston Celtics (55-24) at Miami Heat (55-24)
Sunday, April 10
3:30 PM ET
Game #80  Road Game #40
TV:  ABC, CHCH TV
Radio:  WEEI, WAXY
American Airlines Arena  

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Probable Starting Matchups
Point Guard
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Rajon Rondo   10.7 PPG, 11.3 APG, 2.3 SPG
Mike Bibby   8.6 PPG,  3.3 APG,  0.6 SPG

Shooting Guard
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Ray Allen 16.6 PPG,  2.7 APG,  .445 3P%
Dwyane Wade  25.8 PPG, 4.5 APG,  .310 3P%

Small Forward
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Paul Pierce 18.8 PPG, 5.4 RPG, 3.3 APG
LeBron James  26.6 PPG, 7.5 RPG, 7.0 APG

Power Forward
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Kevin Garnett  14.8 PPG,  9.0 RPG,  0.8 BPG
Chris Bosh  18.8 PPG, 8.3 RPG,  0.6 BPG  

Center
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Jermaine O'Neal   5.2 PPG,  3.4 RPG,  1.1 BPG
Zydrunas Ilgauskas  4.9 PPG,  4.0RPG,  0.8 BPG  

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Boston Bench Mob
Jeff Green
Glen Davis
Delonte West
Nenad Krstic
Carlos Arroyo
Avery Bradley
Sasha Pavlovic  
Troy Murphy
Von Wafer

Injured
Shaquille O'Neal (calf/old age)  out  

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Miami's Reserves
Mario Chalmers
Juwan Howard
Eddie House
Jamaal Magloire
Dexter Pittman
Mike Miller
James Jones
Eric Dampier
Joel Anthony

Injuries
Udonis Haslem (foot)  ouit

Team Connections
Mario Chalmers and Paul Pierce both attended the University of Kansas
Jamaal Magloire and Rajon Rondo both attended the University of Kentucky
Celtics Head Coach Doc Rivers and Dwyane Wade both attended Marquette University
Shaquille O’Neal played for the Miami Heat from 2004‐08 and was a member of their 2006 NBA Championship team
Jermaine O’Neal played for the Heat during the end of the 2008‐09 season and all of the 2009‐10 season
Eddie House played for the Celtics from 2008‐10 and was a member of the Celtics 2008 NBA Championship team
Chris Bosh and Jermaine O’Neal were teammates in Toronto during the 2008‐09 season
Shaquille O’Neal, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Delonte West and LeBron James were teammates in Cleveland during the 2009‐10 season
James, Ilgauskas and West were teammates in Cleveland from 2008‐10
Dexter Pittman and Avery Bradley were teammates at the University of Texas
Nenad Krstic and Eddie House were teammates in New Jersey during the 2006‐07 season
Krstic and Magloire were teammates on the Nets for the 2007‐08
season
Troy Murphy and Erick Dampier were teammates in Golden State from 2001‐04
Sasha Pavlovic, James and Ilgauskas were teammates in Cleveland from 2004‐09
Carlos Arroyo played in 49 games including 42 starts for Miami during the 2010‐11 season.

Game Notes
This is the 4th and final meeting between these two teams this season.  The Celtics have won all 3 of the previous games.  All 3 games were fairly close and got closer as the year went on with wins of 8 points, 5 points, and 3 points.   The Heat would desperately love to get a win in this game, not only for the second seed, but for pride.

These two teams are tied for the second seed in the East.  With the top spot all sewed up by the Bulls, both of these teams would like to nail down the second seed and a win in this game would pretty much do that for the Celtics and put them a game up on Miami.  The second seed would give the Celtics home court in at least the first 2 rounds and would also give them the easier path to the conference finals so this will be a very important game.  The Celtics need to play focused and play with energy.  

Shaq has been ruled out of this game and Jermaine will probably get the start.   The Celtics had Shaq in the middle for their first two games against the Heat and Perk was there for the 3rd game.  Hopefully JO is sufficiently motivated by his day of rest and playing against his old team to give the Celtics a big game, especially on the boards and on defense.  

The Celtics need to get off to a fast start.  The Heat are 41-8 when they lead after the first quarter and are just 12-13 when trailing after the first quarter.  The Celtics can't afford to come out sluggish and hope to turn it on later.   They have to play with energy from start to finish.  

The Celtics are just 5-5 in their last 10 games while the Heat are playing much better and are 8-2 in their last 10.  The Celtics are 23-16 on the road while the Heat are 29-11 at home.  Both teams are looking for their second straight win.  

The Celtics have proved that they can beat the Heat both in Boston and in Miami.  They have done a lot of talking about wanting the second seed and wanting to go into the playoffs playing well.  Hopefully they come out and back up their words with strong team play.      

Key Matchups
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Paul Pierce  vs  LeBron James
This is one of the better matchups in the league and these two have gone at each other in a lot of big games over their careers.  In their first meeting this season, Lebron finished with 31 points while Pierce had 19, but most importantly, the Celtics got the win.  In their last meeting,  Paul Pierce had one of the worst shooting nights of his career as he would go 0‐for‐10 and would convert just one free throw.  Paul will need to once again expend a lot of energy defending LeBron, but hopefully he can be more effective offensively in this game.    

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Kevin Garnett vs Chris Bosh
Chris Bosh always seems to be intimidated by KG.  I can't say as I blame him. As one of the comments from the other side stated,  Bosh gets mentalled by KG.  Hopefully that trend continues in this game and KG has another big game and can also keep Bosh in check.    

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Ray Allen vs Dwyane Wade
Ray Allen hasn't been as involved in the Celtics offense as he should be.  Hopefully the Celtics get their ball movement right and can get Ray more open looks as they need him to spread the floor.  Ray will need to expend energy defending Wade, who is always very active. Hopefully Ray will have Wade chasing him off of screens and wear down Wade's legs to limit his offense as well.  

(http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/rajon_rondo.jpg)  vs  (http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/mike_bibby.jpg)
Rajon Rondo vs Mike Bibby
This may be the most key matchup.   We have seen over and over again this year.  If Rondo has a strong game, the Celtics play well.  If Rondo has a poor game, the Celtics play poorly.   As Rondo goes, so go the Celtics.  Bibby is not known for his defense and so if Rondo is aggressive, he should be able to get past Bibby at will.   The Celtics need an aggressive and effective Rondo to win this game.  

Keys to the Game
Take Care of the Ball - The Celtics must limit their turnovers as the Heat will turn them into fast break points. Wade in particular is good at making teams pay for their turnovers.  

Rebound - The Celtics have to limit the Heat's second chance baskets and fast breaks by crashing the boards.  The amount of effort put into winning the rebound battle often follows through to the other areas of the game.  The Celtics must be aggressive in beating the Heat to rebounds.    

Defense -  The Heat are trying to make defense their calling card this season.  The Celtics have to make defense a priority as well. Defense wins games and defense wins championships.  If the Celtics can't get stops, they won't win the game.  The Heat have won 21 straight games when they score 100 or more points.  The Celtics must play defense and limit their scoring.  

Be Aggressive
-  The Celtics have got to be aggressive in getting to the basket and not settle for jumpers all game.  They also have to be aggressive in diving for loose balls and winning the 50-50 battles.  

Team Ball -  The Celtics need to play team ball.  When they move the ball and make the extra pass and find the open man and play as a team,  they are tough to beat.  When they revert to hero ball and there is little ball movement and they settle for quick shots, they rarely win.   They need team play to beat a team with 2.5 superstars on it.    

X-Factor
Desire and Effort
The Celtics talked about wanting to win and send a message against the Bulls, but then they came out and played with very little effort.  This is a big game and hopefully the Celtics won't just talk about wanting to win, but will put out the effort needed to do so.  
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 09, 2011, 05:00:28 PM
ok. time to send a message. forget the last month and a half and just get further in the heat's heads with another win
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: j804 on April 09, 2011, 05:36:31 PM
ok. time to send a message. forget the last month and a half and just get further in the heat's heads with another win
+1

afterall it's them who well go through to reach at least the EC finals it looks like
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: j804 on April 10, 2011, 12:14:31 AM
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(http://chisideofchambanadotcom.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/chris-bosh-crying.jpg)

Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 06:28:51 AM
TP FL, great great job.

I predict the Heat will play a great game, moving the ball in an unselfish fashion. Lebron and Wade will not look for their shoots, they'll look for their teammates to be involved in the game.

Also, Bibby will deliver 15+ assists and Bosh will collect 20 rebounds.

We better accept the Heat are starting their dinasty of 10 titles in a row because they are the ultimate team.

By the way, Megatron, sorry for beating you to write all these things...

Go Celtics, crush the Miami Hype Machine!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Ray3Allen on April 10, 2011, 06:51:06 AM
.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7KSkZxt_zo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7KSkZxt_zo)
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Drucci on April 10, 2011, 07:41:51 AM
It's kind of crazy to think that a few weeks back this game would have been meaningless but that right now it will be huge to determine if Boston or Miami will get the #2 seed! Still a meaningless game in the sense that we've already won the series and that a win won't change much to Miami's hopes of beating us in the playoffs but I hope that the C's show up and (almost) secure the 2nd seed.

TP FL and go Celtics!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: PosImpos on April 10, 2011, 09:34:07 AM
Rondo averages 11.2 assists per game, not rebounds per game.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 10:16:35 AM
is today the day we see some life out of boston? some spark? some digging in on defense and energy on offense? i hope so.

honestly i am hoping for  win but really don't know what to expect from them today.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 11:02:46 AM
Am I the only one really nervous about this game? I honestly don't even know if I can watch it. Would love to just hop on the internet around 6pm and see great news.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 11:06:36 AM
is today the day we see some life out of boston? some spark? some digging in on defense and energy on offense? i hope so.

honestly i am hoping for  win but really don't know what to expect from them today.

well, they can't say that today's game doesn't mean anything, homecourt in round 2 is on the line, so we should see what this team's got today.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: lovely_20 on April 10, 2011, 11:26:19 AM
TP for a wonderful job as always, and go Celtics!!  ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: ACF on April 10, 2011, 11:26:47 AM
TP. Go Celtics!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 12:44:57 PM
Am I the only one really nervous about this game? I honestly don't even know if I can watch it. Would love to just hop on the internet around 6pm and see great news.

no. I am right there with you. Trying to find something to do while it is on
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: FLCeltsFan on April 10, 2011, 12:57:44 PM
Rondo averages 11.2 assists per game, not rebounds per game.

Fixed it.  After 80 game threads and the fact that I seem to be putting more effort into my game threads than the Celtics are putting into playing the games, I figure that a mistake here or there is understandable.     
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Who on April 10, 2011, 01:01:59 PM
It'll be interesting to see if Miami has made any real progress since the last time these two sides met.

Judging from their other games ... it doesn't look like they have.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 01:03:23 PM
Rondo averages 11.2 assists per game, not rebounds per game.

Fixed it.  After 80 game threads and the fact that I seem to be putting more effort into my game threads than the Celtics are putting into playing the games, I figure that a mistake here or there is understandable.     

  ;D, true, if they care as much as you the HCA wouldn't be a concern at this point. Here's another TP, FL

Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: FLCeltsFan on April 10, 2011, 01:20:41 PM
Official Report
Dan Crawford
Dan Crawford has been a referee in the NBA since the 1984-85 season. Prior to the NBA, Crawford officiated in high school for 12 years, 8 years at the collegiate level (MVC and CCAC) and 4 years in the CBA. He has officiated 1,600+ regular season games, 190+ play-off games and 18 NBA Finals games. After one of the games in Chicago in round 1 in 2008, there was some controversy when he was seen leaving the arena with his family all decked out in Chicago Bulls gear. The Celtics are 5-0 this season and are 7-3 over their last 10 game with Crawford officiating. The Heat are 1-2 this season and 4-6 in their last 10 games with Crawford. Crawford is a homer ref with a home team W/L record of 49-18.

Tony Brothers
Tony Brothers started his NBA career 14 years ago. He has officiated 21 playoff games. Before landing in the NBA he acquired officiating experience in the CBA, college basketball and high school basketball in Virginia. There are several articles about what a terrible ref Brothers is and detailing his misdeeds. He has angered a lot of fans of just about every team because of bad calls, no calls, and one sided officiating. The Celtics are 4-1 this season and 6-4 in their last 10 games with Brothers on the court. The Heat are 3-2 this season and 6-4 with Brothers in their last 10. His home W/L record this season is 37-26.

Michael Smith
Michael Smith has officiated over 740+ regular season games and 10 playoff games. He worked 5 years in the CBA, 8 years at the college level and 10 years at the high school level before making it to the NBA. The Celtics are 2-3 with Smith this season. His last 3 games with the Celtics were all poorly officiated. In the Magic at Celtics on January 17, the Celtics won but the Magic took 13 more free throws than the Celtics and the officiating was terrible for both teams. In the last game he officiated, Golden State had a 26-6 free throw advantage with just over 8 minutes left and the Celtics ended with a 28-11 free throw deficit even after several intentional fouls to stop the clock. The officiating was terrible the whole game. Both teams are 5-5 in their last 10 games with Smith on the court. Smith is another homer ref with a home W/L is 42-19.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Surferdad on April 10, 2011, 01:33:18 PM
It's kind of crazy to think that a few weeks back this game would have been meaningless but that right now it will be huge to determine if Boston or Miami will get the #2 seed! Still a meaningless game in the sense that we've already won the series and that a win won't change much to Miami's hopes of beating us in the playoffs but I hope that the C's show up and (almost) secure the 2nd seed.

TP FL and go Celtics!
Not meaningless in any sense at all, you had it right the first time.

I was really hoping Shaq could play.  Think of the irony of BOTH Shaq and Jermaine returning to Miami and beating them up when a big man is exactly what they've been missing all season.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Q_FBE on April 10, 2011, 02:30:47 PM
Official Report
Dan Crawford
Dan Crawford has been a referee in the NBA since the 1984-85 season. Prior to the NBA, Crawford officiated in high school for 12 years, 8 years at the collegiate level (MVC and CCAC) and 4 years in the CBA. He has officiated 1,600+ regular season games, 190+ play-off games and 18 NBA Finals games. After one of the games in Chicago in round 1 in 2008, there was some controversy when he was seen leaving the arena with his family all decked out in Chicago Bulls gear. The Celtics are 5-0 this season and are 7-3 over their last 10 game with Crawford officiating. The Heat are 1-2 this season and 4-6 in their last 10 games with Crawford. Crawford is a homer ref with a home team W/L record of 49-18.

Tony Brothers
Tony Brothers started his NBA career 14 years ago. He has officiated 21 playoff games. Before landing in the NBA he acquired officiating experience in the CBA, college basketball and high school basketball in Virginia. There are several articles about what a terrible ref Brothers is and detailing his misdeeds. He has angered a lot of fans of just about every team because of bad calls, no calls, and one sided officiating. The Celtics are 4-1 this season and 6-4 in their last 10 games with Brothers on the court. The Heat are 3-2 this season and 6-4 with Brothers in their last 10. His home W/L record this season is 37-26.

Michael Smith
Michael Smith has officiated over 740+ regular season games and 10 playoff games. He worked 5 years in the CBA, 8 years at the college level and 10 years at the high school level before making it to the NBA. The Celtics are 2-3 with Smith this season. His last 3 games with the Celtics were all poorly officiated. In the Magic at Celtics on January 17, the Celtics won but the Magic took 13 more free throws than the Celtics and the officiating was terrible for both teams. In the last game he officiated, Golden State had a 26-6 free throw advantage with just over 8 minutes left and the Celtics ended with a 28-11 free throw deficit even after several intentional fouls to stop the clock. The officiating was terrible the whole game. Both teams are 5-5 in their last 10 games with Smith on the court. Smith is another homer ref with a home W/L is 42-19.

The fact that two of the three officials in this game have refereed 2000 NBA games but only 31 playoff games really bothers me a lot. And the fact that they are considered homer refs. Dan Crawford, the veteran official with the apparent  Bulls bias, may help us today if we play well because he might want to get the Celtics a two seed and improve the chances of a Celtics Bulls ECF.

Miami needs to come out and win this game just to get the feel of beating Boston. The Celtics have not played well the last month and I am concerned heading into the post season. Does adding Shaq make that much of a difference? Can Jeff Green and Nenad Krstic limit the need to use Baby? Can Ray Allen find his shooting touch? Can Rondo play a little better?

Remember, winning today does not guarentee a 2 seed or a 2nd round victory over the Heat. There is a lot that can go wrong for both teams playing today.

I think the bench contributions will decide todays game as the major players cancel each other out. Does Eddie House or Daman Jones bone us with a key three pointer?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: libermaniac on April 10, 2011, 02:38:32 PM
It's not out of the question that even if the C's lose today, they can still get the #2 seed.  The C's finish at Wash and home vs. the Knicks (2 winnable games).  The Heat finish at ATL and at Tor.  Two losable games.  C's own the tiebreaker.  Just sayin.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: prov1ml34 on April 10, 2011, 03:16:24 PM
Unrelated note, the Magic are beating the hell out of Rose. Something we should have done.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Fafnir on April 10, 2011, 03:27:06 PM
It'll be interesting to see if Miami has made any real progress since the last time these two sides met.

Judging from their other games ... it doesn't look like they have.
Our level of play had fallen off though. I am nervous.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: RJ87 on April 10, 2011, 03:33:28 PM
Unrelated note, the Magic are beating the hell out of Rose. Something we should have done.

39 pts on 13 or 17 shooting (10 of 10 from the FT line) doesn't sound like a beatdown to me.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: lovely_20 on April 10, 2011, 03:37:51 PM
I just caught the end of the Orl/Chi game...I wish Nelson had launched that 3 just a second earlier...
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: prov1ml34 on April 10, 2011, 03:38:04 PM
Unrelated note, the Magic are beating the hell out of Rose. Something we should have done.

39 pts on 13 or 17 shooting (10 of 10 from the FT line) doesn't sound like a beatdown to me.

He laid on the floor half injured three or four times grimacing in pain. They were extremely physical with him. A stat line doesn't show the physicality of a game
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: RJ87 on April 10, 2011, 03:40:29 PM
Unrelated note, the Magic are beating the hell out of Rose. Something we should have done.

39 pts on 13 or 17 shooting (10 of 10 from the FT line) doesn't sound like a beatdown to me.

He laid on the floor half injured three or four times grimacing in pain. They were extremely physical with him. A stat line doesn't show the physicality of a game

Physicality? He still went off and his team still won. So they didn't really beat him down too much, now did they?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Redz on April 10, 2011, 03:40:38 PM
Love all those empty seats
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Redz on April 10, 2011, 03:41:06 PM
Good job getting the contact KG
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 03:41:06 PM
were are the Miami fans???? half-full or half-empty arena?

Let's go Celtics!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Redz on April 10, 2011, 03:42:44 PM
great D

so far so good
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: RJ87 on April 10, 2011, 03:43:09 PM
I'm loving this start... the key is to play liek this for the full 48mins.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: PosImpos on April 10, 2011, 03:43:23 PM
were are the Miami fans???? half-full or half-empty arena?

Let's go Celtics!!!

They are a notoriously apathetic fanbase . . . .even with 3 stars, one of which would make most fanbases come out in droves every night.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 03:43:29 PM
ouch... JVG?

Where's the broom to beat the team that was going to win 72 games??

Captain!!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Redz on April 10, 2011, 03:43:36 PM
Can't believe how good JO looks
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: lovely_20 on April 10, 2011, 03:43:49 PM
were are the Miami fans???? half-full or half-empty arena?

Let's go Celtics!!!

Too chicken to watch their team lose to the C's?  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Redz on April 10, 2011, 03:44:15 PM
Ray on cue!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: lovely_20 on April 10, 2011, 03:44:36 PM
Let's see if Ray-Ray finds his touch this game.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: CelticSooner on April 10, 2011, 03:44:37 PM
Setting the tone early, I like it.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: houseonfire09 on April 10, 2011, 03:45:30 PM
Celtics will beat this team in 4 or 5.  Doesn't matter who has HCA.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: ejk3489 on April 10, 2011, 03:45:34 PM
Wow, great start!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: prov1ml34 on April 10, 2011, 03:45:40 PM
LOVE the start DO NOT let up Cs!!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Drucci on April 10, 2011, 03:46:11 PM
Excellent start! Looking sharp and poised offensively, making shots, good D, Bosh with 2 fouls already... really nothing to complain about so far.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 03:46:15 PM
We look amazing. I hope we can keep this up for 48 mins...or at least something close to it.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 03:47:33 PM
Ok, time to tough up the D. Let's go Celtics!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 03:49:57 PM
ouch... JVG?

Where's the broom to beat the team that was going to win 72 games??

Captain!!

Sorry, every time someone mentions a broom the refs start whistling against us.  >:(
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: prov1ml34 on April 10, 2011, 03:53:12 PM
Wow those last two fouls were absolute bs
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Who on April 10, 2011, 03:54:15 PM
I like Garnett's play offensively. Looking for his shot a bit more.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: PosImpos on April 10, 2011, 03:54:53 PM
KG for threeeeee
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: lovely_20 on April 10, 2011, 03:55:13 PM
Nice 3 by KG!!  :o
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 03:56:02 PM
KG!!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 03:57:16 PM
KG hitting 3s?...I have a good feeling about this game.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Surferdad on April 10, 2011, 03:57:43 PM
I like the focus and the intensity so far, especially on defense.  Let's see if the bench can keep it going.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Drucci on April 10, 2011, 03:57:50 PM
KG for 3, wow! :o 8)
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: LooseCannon on April 10, 2011, 03:58:57 PM
Celtics fans are supposed to be natural pessimists who think the sky is falling, right?  So, um, KG making a three will mean that Big Baby will want to try to make two of them in the game to prove himself.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 03:59:45 PM
Doc is saving minutes from Nenad and JO's legs... Baby must hate him  ;D

I don't buy the Cs are taking this game as seriously as the announcers are saying. But they're not doing too bad, Pierce is playing terrific basket.

Go Celtics!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 04:01:48 PM
and now the Krstic/Baby combo... some day it will work out great and the Celtics will blow teams.

another Heat TO... sweet!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 04:05:05 PM
and now the Krstic/Baby combo... some day it will work out great and the Celtics will blow teams.

another Heat TO... sweet!

and to make it "easier", the Davis/Green combo at the 5/4!!!

Let's go CelticS!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Who on April 10, 2011, 04:05:31 PM
Quite a few careless passes being thrown around
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 04:05:38 PM
I cannot express how much I hate the "dont even try to get an offensive board just run back on defense" philosophy.

Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Green Hell on April 10, 2011, 04:05:50 PM
Bench Pig Baby
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: CelticSooner on April 10, 2011, 04:06:35 PM
I have very little faith in the bench. I think Baby hurts the team more than helps it.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Drucci on April 10, 2011, 04:06:44 PM
Baby getting destroyed by Anthony (!!) on D and being awful on offense, great... I'm so sick of Baby.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: prov1ml34 on April 10, 2011, 04:06:52 PM
Bench Pig Baby

+1
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: The DarkPassenger on April 10, 2011, 04:06:55 PM
and now the Krstic/Baby combo... some day it will work out great and the Celtics will blow teams.

another Heat TO... sweet!

 :-X

lol
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Bankshot on April 10, 2011, 04:07:02 PM
Poor Baby, he always gets the ball with the clock winding down. lol
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: KungPoweChicken on April 10, 2011, 04:07:15 PM
Rondo and Davis look like they're in way over their heads. I don't see Doc's obsession with Davis. I really don't. Rondo just isn't that good. We need way more Delonte and Jeff Green if we're going to win this one.
Title: BBD???
Post by: missyP on April 10, 2011, 04:07:18 PM
that 1st quarter he was a LIABILITY to say the least.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Change on April 10, 2011, 04:08:01 PM
Big Baby AKA lead evaporator. Singlehandedly he erases any lead.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Drucci on April 10, 2011, 04:08:38 PM
Rondo and Davis look like they're in way over their heads. I don't see Doc's obsession with Davis. I really don't. Rondo just isn't that good. We need way more Delonte and Jeff Green if we're going to win this one.

I agree on Baby but Delonte hasn't done anything so far in this game, he isn't looking for his shot at all while he should.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 04:09:20 PM
Well, at least Baby got his 3-point attempt. Now, attack the basket, Baby!

Still confident of a win, Miami doesn't seem to care a lot, either.

Go Celtics!!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: jbsprinter1 on April 10, 2011, 04:09:53 PM
I've just about had it with Mark Jackson. I can understand saying the Bulls are the best in the East (because their recent play backs that up), but to say the Heat are the best? Where's the logic? Seriously, this guy is stuck in 2010 summer mode and I don't see him getting off that bandwagon anytime soon. So sick of him - provides no insight and has no evidence to back his ridiculous claims.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 04:11:13 PM
and now the Krstic/Baby combo... some day it will work out great and the Celtics will blow teams.

another Heat TO... sweet!

 :-X

lol

(fail)

hahahahaha

you know what I meant, I just didn't write it properly. My bad.

Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: ejk3489 on April 10, 2011, 04:11:24 PM
Rondo and Davis look like they're in way over their heads. I don't see Doc's obsession with Davis. I really don't. Rondo just isn't that good. We need way more Delonte and Jeff Green if we're going to win this one.

Delonte West doesn't look good either...
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: lovely_20 on April 10, 2011, 04:11:59 PM
Starting to get messy... ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: get_banners on April 10, 2011, 04:12:32 PM
btw, that was NOT a block on green. it was almost all arm. and when baby touched bosh, he got 2 FTs.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Surferdad on April 10, 2011, 04:12:34 PM
Good call on Jones.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: RajonRondOWNED on April 10, 2011, 04:12:42 PM
I like how Mark Jackson just makes up everything he said. Talking about the Celtics never had to deal with adversity until Perkins got traded...


How about Kevin Garnet missing the 2009 playoffs...or Perkins missing game 7...
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: The DarkPassenger on April 10, 2011, 04:12:58 PM
less flash and just make the play. Stop aiming for the highlight reel and play basketball
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Green Hell on April 10, 2011, 04:13:38 PM
Pig Baby getting in his requisite 10 shots per half.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: get_banners on April 10, 2011, 04:13:54 PM
good lord...yet another ridiculous call for bosh. if they're calling touch fouls for him, we might as well take some real shots at him.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: KungPoweChicken on April 10, 2011, 04:14:06 PM
Doc said he was going to limit the amount of rest intervals for Jermaine. Well, Doc, it's time to get him in. Glen Davis is getting eaten alive.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 04:14:10 PM
Anybody else catch Wade clipping his fingernails on the bench? LOL...I found that hilarious.
Title: Can Baby just foul out
Post by: missyP on April 10, 2011, 04:14:27 PM
That is the only way Doc can bring back JO.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: angryguy77 on April 10, 2011, 04:14:53 PM
I hate bosh and his cheap flops so much.

Manu has a rival
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Jon on April 10, 2011, 04:15:08 PM
It is night and day with JO out and JO in.  If Shaq can get back, this team is going to be fine.  However, if not, we're going to be in some trouble.  

We need a 7-footer out there who can block shots for 90+% of the game.  
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: get_banners on April 10, 2011, 04:15:43 PM
now THAT was an actual foul on us by nenad. the rest...not so much. not liking how the refs are calling this game at all thus far.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Who on April 10, 2011, 04:15:52 PM
Boston are a very good rebounding team when they are healthy.

Too much is being made of their statistics over the whole regular season. Those numbers are meaningless.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: prov1ml34 on April 10, 2011, 04:16:15 PM
BBD on the floor is absolutely killing us
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: KungPoweChicken on April 10, 2011, 04:16:26 PM
It is night and day with JO out and JO in.  If Shaq can get back, this team is going to be fine.  However, if not, we're going to be in some trouble.  

We need a 7-footer out there who can block shots for 90+% of the game.  


so true.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Change on April 10, 2011, 04:16:34 PM
Doc Rivers has to simplify the offense when the bench is in. They seem lost out there. Big Baby STOP SHOOTING!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Frezz on April 10, 2011, 04:17:02 PM
So Bosh has 2 fouls and we haven't gone at him one time. Not one time. So much for veteran saviness.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: KungPoweChicken on April 10, 2011, 04:17:26 PM
I'm going to say it: This Celtic team really misses Tony Allen's energy.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: ejk3489 on April 10, 2011, 04:18:08 PM
Second unit looks awful out there.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Change on April 10, 2011, 04:19:13 PM
Doc, thank you. Keep it simple
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: get_banners on April 10, 2011, 04:19:53 PM
we need to go to green on the blocks a lot. he's got a mismatch and can score at will down there instead of, i don't know, baby shooting jumpers beyond his range.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: prov1ml34 on April 10, 2011, 04:21:14 PM
Keep going to Green
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: get_banners on April 10, 2011, 04:21:21 PM
yes...green on the blocks. feed him.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: KungPoweChicken on April 10, 2011, 04:21:28 PM
Jeff Green is having his way right now. I don't understand the obsession with Davis.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: makaveli on April 10, 2011, 04:21:35 PM
I love him when posting!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Who on April 10, 2011, 04:22:14 PM
Jeff Green doing a nice job drawing back to back fouls on Mike Miller.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 04:24:03 PM
I really don't understand this trend of standing over a guy after you foul him. It's not like you blocked his shot or something
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: lovely_20 on April 10, 2011, 04:24:38 PM
Does anyone believe that Chalmers was trying to step over KG?  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: KobeShesNotConsenting! on April 10, 2011, 04:25:56 PM
did i just hear that baby only has 45 charges this season? wasnt he on pace to finish with like 1 a game like a month back?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Frezz on April 10, 2011, 04:27:13 PM
Still waiting for then to go at Bosh..... Isn't that why getting two quick fouls on a guy is supposed to be beneficial?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on April 10, 2011, 04:27:36 PM
C's are fading away..
I miss good ol' D  :-[
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Green Hell on April 10, 2011, 04:28:18 PM
Do the Celtics ever EVER get 2nd chance points?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Drucci on April 10, 2011, 04:28:52 PM
KG is our only consistent scorer, he needs help right now!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 04:29:24 PM
C's are fading away..
I miss good ol' D  :-[

defense isn't the problem. yet again, it's the offense. most of the heat's good looks are off our turnovers
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 04:31:54 PM
yet again, a 3pt play off a sloppy pass by Pierce
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 04:32:36 PM
Do the Celtics ever EVER get 2nd chance points?

Never.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: curacha on April 10, 2011, 04:33:08 PM
turnovers are killing the C's  :-\
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: angryguy77 on April 10, 2011, 04:33:41 PM
Come on paul, didn't you get that out of your system on thurs
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Who on April 10, 2011, 04:34:01 PM
Both teams turning the ball over quite a lot
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 04:34:16 PM
how the hell is JO's foul a flagrant? He tried to get out of the way and was run over
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: lovely_20 on April 10, 2011, 04:34:54 PM
how the hell is JO's foul a flagrant? He tried to get out of the way and was run over

I know. SMH.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 04:35:20 PM
James should have been ejected for throwing the ball at JO
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: threats13 on April 10, 2011, 04:35:41 PM
this team will not win the championship.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Who on April 10, 2011, 04:35:42 PM
Well that was an overreaction from all involved.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: jbsprinter1 on April 10, 2011, 04:35:53 PM
Mark Jackson has lost his mind. "Clearly a flagrant on JO." So if Lebron crashes into JO, it's obviously a flagrant on JO, right? This fool needs to shut his mouth.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: lovely_20 on April 10, 2011, 04:36:01 PM
James should have been ejected for throwing the ball at JO

Not with these homer refs.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 04:36:05 PM
how the hell is JO's foul a flagrant? He tried to get out of the way and was run over

He should have gotten out of the King's way, didn't you know? Those are LeCrab's rules

Let's go Stern!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: angryguy77 on April 10, 2011, 04:36:30 PM
Give me a break a t for that? What is this the wnba?

Add a few more points on the hate scale for leroid and jvg
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 04:36:49 PM
Mark Jackson has lost his mind. "Clearly a flagrant on JO." So if Lebron crashes into JO, it's obviously a flagrant on JO, right? This fool needs to shut his mouth.

exactly, and Van Gundy of course is in full agreement. What a load of crap
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: mahonedog88 on April 10, 2011, 04:37:50 PM
The way the Celtics have been playing, there's no doubt in my mind the Celtics are going to lose this game.  They have no chance at the number 1 seed and the Heat CLEARLY need this game more for their psyche since they just can't seem to beat Boston.

This doesn't necessarily mean I'm picking Miami in a 7-game series...but for today, Miami will win this game.  I'm not gonna freak out when we lose too...whats the point?  3 games away from the playoffs, we're facing the Heat in the second round anyway...if we make it there that is.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Green Hell on April 10, 2011, 04:38:10 PM
Clear and obvious flagrant. I like it.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: The DarkPassenger on April 10, 2011, 04:38:16 PM
did gundy just say lebron throwing the ball at JO was justified and didn't need to be T'd up?? Wow...
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 04:38:30 PM
Give me a break a t for that? What is this the wnba?

Add a few more points on the hate scale for leroid and jvg

no, no, the WNBA players are tougher than a lot of the NBA guys... this is the SNBA (Stern's NBA)

Go Celtics, now you have a reason for caring about this win!! play hard, play with heart!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: droopdog7 on April 10, 2011, 04:39:30 PM
In today's game, that is a flagrant.  Oh well.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 04:40:06 PM
Experiencing a sense of deja vu...smh.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: greg683x on April 10, 2011, 04:40:13 PM
i agree that it should have been a flagrant, but JVG saying Lebron was justified in what he did and shouldnt be T'd up is just laughable.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: KungPoweChicken on April 10, 2011, 04:40:23 PM
Can the C's win this game in spite of Glen Davis tonight? That's the question.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 04:41:56 PM
Everyone else gets 2nd and 3rd chances and sometimes even 4th and 5th. We get...1. Always.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: ManUp on April 10, 2011, 04:42:17 PM
I don't like Mike Breen...  :)

I think I hate him passionately.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: The DarkPassenger on April 10, 2011, 04:43:04 PM
how was bosh not tossed for that?? West was tossed for less the other night.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Drucci on April 10, 2011, 04:43:22 PM
Rondo can decide to play whenever he wants to, it's not like he isn't doing anything on the court right now... and the lack of rebounding as a whole team doesn't help.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: CelticSooner on April 10, 2011, 04:43:31 PM
Rondo 1 point 1 assist

C's have no chance unless that changes.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: jbsprinter1 on April 10, 2011, 04:43:40 PM
That little rant by Bosh was the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. Guy is spitting all over the refs, Lebron is throwing basketballs at our players, but it's totally justified, right JVG and Mark Jackson?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Green Hell on April 10, 2011, 04:43:45 PM
Getting bullied by the Miami Heat... Pushed around in the paint and out rebounded by a team that doesn't even have a center.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: droopdog7 on April 10, 2011, 04:44:14 PM
We'll see what kind of pride this team has because if they don't step it up, thy are going to get blown out.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: prov1ml34 on April 10, 2011, 04:44:35 PM
I don't like Mike Breen...  :)

I think I hate him passionately.

Ditto
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 04:44:38 PM
Getting bullied by the Miami Heat... Pushed around in the paint and out rebounded by a team that doesn't even have a center.

Sickening, isnt it?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on April 10, 2011, 04:45:47 PM
We're bad down, phisically and mentally
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: threats13 on April 10, 2011, 04:45:51 PM
Getting bullied by the Miami Heat... Pushed around in the paint and out rebounded by a team that doesn't even have a center.

Sickening, isnt it?


Its gross, they want it more, and theyre acting like it. Were soft with no fight no rebounding no nothing.  I dont know what happened to this team but this is not the team I known and love.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Shots on April 10, 2011, 04:46:05 PM
how was bosh not tossed for that?? West was tossed for less the other night.

Yeah, that does not make much sense. Doc was too against Phoenix, where he repeatedly "disrespected" the ref, just as Bosh just did.. Too bad it's not Steve Javie tonight, huh?

I think Bosh is probably the guy whom I believe the least. When I see him doing stuff like that, I can't help but think it's an act.



Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 04:46:40 PM
ugh. great job paul
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: CelticSooner on April 10, 2011, 04:47:31 PM
ugh. great job paul

That possession was on Baby. If he put it up early it was an easy deuce.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on April 10, 2011, 04:47:51 PM
Our offense is so bad I just can't believe it.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Who on April 10, 2011, 04:47:56 PM
Really good defense by Bosh on Pierce at the top of the key.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 04:48:36 PM
I've never seen the ref dive on the floor for a loose ball before
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Green Hell on April 10, 2011, 04:48:58 PM
That was all Pig Baby's fault in case anyone was wondering. Trying to play hero thinking he can dribble the ball up the court.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: jasail on April 10, 2011, 04:49:05 PM
When did Glen Davis turn into such a liability...
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 04:49:16 PM
Our offense is so bad I just can't believe it.

Impossible. We traded defense for offense. Our offense HAS to be stellar...right??
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Jon on April 10, 2011, 04:50:47 PM
Things will be better if Shaq can come back.  Part of the problem is that BBD is playing 30+ mpg.  If Shaq and JO can both play, we can cut Baby's minutes in half.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on April 10, 2011, 04:50:56 PM
I've never seen the ref dive on the floor for a loose ball before

he slipped lol
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: The DarkPassenger on April 10, 2011, 04:51:07 PM
how was bosh not tossed for that?? West was tossed for less the other night.

Yeah, that does not make much sense. Doc was too against Phoenix, where he repeatedly "disrespected" the ref, just as Bosh just did.. Too bad it's not Steve Javie tonight, huh?

I think Bosh is probably the guy whom I believe the least. When I see him doing stuff like that, I can't help but think it's an act.





yeah totally, consistency would be nice and if they didn't call games based on names on the jersey that would be just fantastic. Bosh is a joke.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: KungPoweChicken on April 10, 2011, 04:51:28 PM
Remember when people were saying Rondo had a huge advantage over Bibby. I don't see it.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Kiorrik on April 10, 2011, 04:51:30 PM
Oh hello, mister 9 - 24 rebound deficiency! How are you this fine day?


Harsh waking up to that. 6:49am here in Sydney.

Gonna watch a bit if the game from work methinks. Bah, hope we show up in the 3rd...
Title: 2nd unit integration is problematic
Post by: missyP on April 10, 2011, 04:51:56 PM
We pretty much lose our momentum when the 2nd unit comes in. I hope we smooth it out in time for playoffs.
And BBD's play lately has been a net negative, for some reason.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Who on April 10, 2011, 04:51:59 PM
When did Glen Davis turn into such a liability...
When Doc Rivers ran him into the ground by playing him too many minutes.

Hopefully, Big Baby can get some rest during the first round and get his legs back in time for the second round. It's probably not going to happen before the playoffs because Shaq is still out and Jermaine is minutes limited still. But hopefully in the first round, Doc can get his minutes down to around 15mpg and give him a bit of a breather before the real competition begins.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: ejk3489 on April 10, 2011, 04:52:02 PM
Season low 9 rebounds at half? Gotta do better than that.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 04:52:24 PM
Remember when people were saying Rondo had a huge advantage over Bibby. I don't see it.

He does. Bibby sucks. Rondo has just been a non factor this half...
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: jambr380 on April 10, 2011, 04:52:46 PM
Obviously the rebounding has been a problem, but the silly turnovers and looseball battle has been the saddest part for me. How many more times can they just hand the Heat the ball for an easy layup?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Drucci on April 10, 2011, 04:52:54 PM
Down 7 at halftime with basically no production from Rondo, Pierce, Ray and everybody except for KG. Could have been worse but it definitely has to get better in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: CelticSooner on April 10, 2011, 04:53:03 PM
Remember when people were saying Rondo had a huge advantage over Bibby. I don't see it.

When he wants to he does. Rondo basically played on the perimeter the entire half.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: KungPoweChicken on April 10, 2011, 04:53:09 PM
Remember when people were saying Rondo had a huge advantage over Bibby. I don't see it.

He does. Bibby sucks. Rondo has just been a non factor this half...


Rondo has been a non factor? You mean like almost every game for the past 3 months?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: RMO on April 10, 2011, 04:53:32 PM
I was checking the updates and saw the celtics had a nine point lead early on.  How did that become a seven point deficit at half time?  Bad defense?  Turnovers?  Lack of offense?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: droopdog7 on April 10, 2011, 04:53:50 PM
All I know is that PP needs to stop throwing the ball away.  How many times has he done that today?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 04:54:25 PM
we don't deserve to be trailing by 20, nevermind by 7 after the way we played on offense so far
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Who on April 10, 2011, 04:54:26 PM
Yeah, Rondo has been pretty bad today.

It's not Miami's defense, it's Rondo's passive play.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on April 10, 2011, 04:54:53 PM
Been watching the game....so is it me, or is Rondo just not in the game?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Frezz on April 10, 2011, 04:55:16 PM
God, Bosh is annoying. And not in the "you'd like it if he was on your team" way.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: heitingas on April 10, 2011, 04:55:28 PM
bosh hopping around like a little school girl, lol ..that's how he shows his intensity.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 04:55:45 PM
This team simply can't score anymore. Just don't see them beating the heat in round two without home court...
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: KungPoweChicken on April 10, 2011, 04:56:03 PM
Remember when people were saying Rondo had a huge advantage over Bibby. I don't see it.

When he wants to he does. Rondo basically played on the perimeter the entire half.




What is this "When he wants to" nonsense. That's like saying, "Ray Allen only drains threes when he wants to." The fact is that Rondo hasn't been quick or fast enough to drive the lane, he's scared of getting fouled and missing free throws, and he doesn't want to get blocked by LBJ or Wade on a help defense play. You combine that with his lack of a jump shot and that's why he has been completely useless.

Let's get more West Doc. It's our only chance to win this.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: curacha on April 10, 2011, 04:56:40 PM
c'mon C's... get your act together in the 2nd half...
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: PosImpos on April 10, 2011, 04:56:44 PM
rebounds 10 to 24.   that's the whole story right there.  can't win like that.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: makaveli on April 10, 2011, 04:57:05 PM
Is Rondo playing?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: The DarkPassenger on April 10, 2011, 04:57:08 PM
Celtic will come out and play in the 3rd and if the guys can keep up the defense and start playing better offense then we got this won.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: CelticSooner on April 10, 2011, 04:57:55 PM
Remember when people were saying Rondo had a huge advantage over Bibby. I don't see it.

When he wants to he does. Rondo basically played on the perimeter the entire half.




What is this "When he wants to" nonsense. That's like saying, "Ray Allen only drains threes when he wants to." The fact is that Rondo hasn't been quick or fast enough to drive the lane, he's scared of getting fouled and missing free throws, and he doesn't want to get blocked by LBJ or Wade on a help defense play. You combine that with his lack of a jump shot and that's why he has been completely useless.

Let's get more West Doc. It's our only chance to win this.

Yes when he wants too.

(http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/508/545/rajon-rondo-dunk-bosh1_display_image.jpg?1289953153)
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 04:58:28 PM
So how is this any different than the bulls game? This team is unable to turn it on no matter what they say. Down at the half quickly turns into 10 plus in the second half
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: P2 on April 10, 2011, 04:58:58 PM
Your rebounding stats at the half:

MIA 24
BOS 10

Are you kidding me?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Kiorrik on April 10, 2011, 04:59:15 PM
Down 7 at halftime with basically no production from Rondo, Pierce, Ray and everybody except for KG. Could have been worse but it definitely has to get better in the 2nd half.
This. My sentiments too. Everytime you're behind a wee bit while your starters don't contribute a bit, it shouldn't worry you. This is only if your starters names are R. Allen, P. Pierce, R. Rondo and K. Garnett though :p
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: ejk3489 on April 10, 2011, 04:59:30 PM
Remember when people were saying Rondo had a huge advantage over Bibby. I don't see it.

He does. Bibby sucks. Rondo has just been a non factor this half...


Rondo has been a non factor? You mean like almost every game for the past 3 months?

Did you not watch Rondo against WAS, PHI, DET, SAS, and IND the past two weeks?

He was in a slump for about a month, month and a half, but he's been fine the past few weeks.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: RJ87 on April 10, 2011, 04:59:45 PM
Rondo has been a non-factor.

Paul Pierce is playing hero ball.

Ray Allen is playing golf.

BBD is on Mars. (I don't think I've ever screamed at my television so loudly when he was bringing the ball up. "PASS THE FRICKIN BALL!")

KG is playing incredibly well offensively.

I liked JO's hard foul, would love it more if the intensity rubs off on everyone else.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on April 10, 2011, 05:00:46 PM
I pray that Rondo comes out with some passion in the next half.

I also pray that he can get his head straight prior to the playoffs. I defend Rondo a lot of times, but if this type of play keeps up, then maybe the "T" word should be explored after this season is over.......

Out of all the players I have watched in this Celtics-Heat game, Rondo is so far the most ineffective..
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: SF Celtic on April 10, 2011, 05:01:11 PM
The analysts are calling it like it is--this team is not the same since the trade, and we're baked.  BBD is garbage and Doc continues to play him.  Crazy.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: P2 on April 10, 2011, 05:01:39 PM
Delonte, Krstic and JO have some pretty nice stats at the half. Way to go!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Roy H. on April 10, 2011, 05:02:14 PM
Things looked pretty promising after that 11-2 spurt.  Let's hope we can start the second half with something similar.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 05:02:28 PM
on a good note, I'm not sure the Bulls can beat the magic in a 7 game series after today's game
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: bopna on April 10, 2011, 05:02:40 PM
I have never seen Rondo sooooo passive in a very important game. He is sleepwalking the ball, no dribble penetrations and make plays, its as if he is holding out or something.

And what was the one-on-one meeting with doc for if he is just going to be this passive....oh I know, he is probably excited to watch his bestfriend Perk later tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:03:28 PM
can't say I am surprised at this result so far. Pretty much expect them to slop through a few more weeks of hoops and then have a nice long offseason with the lockout

i am not sure boston can get out of the first round anymore
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 05:04:04 PM
Down 7 at halftime with basically no production from Rondo, Pierce, Ray and everybody except for KG. Could have been worse but it definitely has to get better in the 2nd half.
This. My sentiments too. Everytime you're behind a wee bit while your starters don't contribute a bit, it shouldn't worry you. This is only if your starters names are R. Allen, P. Pierce, R. Rondo and K. Garnett though :p

LOL...people always wanna say "down by (insert deficit here) at the half and we're not even (insert reason for deficit here)?? All we have to do is (insert everything we weren't doing in the first half here) and we'll be fine!"

It never fails, and I too used to do this...it sounds so easy to fix but it usually doesn't happen. We've seen that a lot over the past 20 or so games. I pray they turn it on this half but its just not that easy.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: P2 on April 10, 2011, 05:04:13 PM
Everybody, except KG, is playing like somebody else has to step up, but nobody does that!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Roy H. on April 10, 2011, 05:04:33 PM
on a good note, I'm not sure the Bulls can beat the magic in a 7 game series after today's game

Perfect, so it can be Magic - Heat in the ECF.  The worst of all worlds.  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:05:19 PM
i must say I am counting the days until I don't have to see baby in a Cs uniform. i am tired of him thinking he is some sort of 15 foot jump shooter that is the main option. he simply kills anything on offense
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: LB3533 on April 10, 2011, 05:06:01 PM
Turnovers are the #1 killer for our team in this game...it's not the rebounding.

Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:07:29 PM
just get this over with and rest the team the last two games. what a month...4 games up in first now bottoming out as a 3 seed. sad and sorry state this team is in
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 05:07:36 PM
Turnovers are the #1 killer for our team in this game...it's not the rebounding.



I agree, turnovers by far are killing us, and it's on everyone, not just Rondo or Pierce
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: The DarkPassenger on April 10, 2011, 05:07:41 PM
i must say I am counting the days until I don't have to see baby in a Cs uniform. i am tired of him thinking he is some sort of 15 foot jump shooter that is the main option. he simply kills anything on offense

same here, if he attempts another 3 in this game Doc should just knock him out.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: RJ87 on April 10, 2011, 05:07:42 PM
i must say I am counting the days until I don't have to see baby in a Cs uniform. i am tired of him thinking he is some sort of 15 foot jump shooter that is the main option. he simply kills anything on offense

OMG, I actually agree with you. I guess there's a 1st time for everything. ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: LarBrd33 on April 10, 2011, 05:08:13 PM
new official stance:  This team is a nonfactor in the playoffs if Shaq doesn't come back  Either we get upset in round 1 or embarrassed in round 2.  Shame.  Getting outrebounded by a team with no big man.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: TerreHaute on April 10, 2011, 05:08:28 PM
Our perimeter defense and rebounding are killing us right now. I am not sure why their gaurds are so easily recovering on the pick and roll, but ours are not. Ray and Delonte were terrible at this. We may as well have played a zone. If Baby boxes someone out this half, it will be the first time today. Just how many guys does he think he is going to out-jump for rebounds?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Spicoli on April 10, 2011, 05:08:33 PM
3 Major problems with this team right now:

1. BBD does more harm than good.

2. Rondo is not making an impact on the game.

3. Ray being chased off screens by two defenders. The rest of the league has figured it out. Run two people at Ray off picks to neutralize him, and the rest of the offense goes in the toilet. When Ray plays well, and gets good looks the team plays well. Teams have finally figured it out.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: PosImpos on April 10, 2011, 05:08:46 PM
Turnovers are the #1 killer for our team in this game...it's not the rebounding.



How can this possibly be the case when the Heat have 4 more turnovers than us and 14 more rebounds than us?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 05:09:04 PM
new official stance:  This team is a nonfactor in the playoffs if Shaq doesn't come back  Either we get upset in round 1 or embarrassed in round 2.  Shame.  Getting outrebounded by a team with no big man.

turnovers, turnovers, turnovers!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: the_Bird on April 10, 2011, 05:09:30 PM
Your rebounding stats at the half:

MIA 24
BOS 10

Are you kidding me?

I just got home, so I haven't had the game on.  

We have ten total rebounds, and Miami has ten on the offensive glass alone?  Against MIAMI?  Not against Dwight Howard, or against Gasol/Bynum?  

People still think trading our best rebounder for a seventh-man was a good idea?   ???
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:09:39 PM
i must say I am counting the days until I don't have to see baby in a Cs uniform. i am tired of him thinking he is some sort of 15 foot jump shooter that is the main option. he simply kills anything on offense

OMG, I actually agree with you. I guess there's a 1st time for everything. ;)


we are in dire straights!!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Mike-Dub on April 10, 2011, 05:09:45 PM
Hey Rondo, JO, and Baby how about instead of going out clubbing till two in the morning (and past Rondo!) and get your rest in for the biggest game of the year.

Instead you guys go out had back at two (JO and Baby) and even leave the club with three girls and stay out... Rondo!

JO you say you want to have the confetti fall on you and feel what it is like to be a champion, well you have to prepare and sacrifice like a champion and that means not going out partying the night before the biggest game of the season.  There is a reason you don't have a ring right now.  You are a veteran and should act like one.

Baby you say you want to be a better leader for the second unit well how about you rest your body the night before the biggest game of the season.  Oh and you want a big contract after this season... You have proven that you are not worth one with your immaturity. 

And lastly Rondo... You say you want to be the best pg in the league well going out clubbing and then taking out three chicks at 2 in the morning before the biggest game of the season is not the determination and dedication you need to become the best pg in the league.  Do you think Derrick Rose would be doing that... there is a reason Derrick Rose has surpassed you by so much this year, has his team leading the East in wins and is about to take the MVP it's because he has that dedication.

You guys have to sacrifice to be a champion and have that dedication to bea champion and right now you guys don't.

Turn it up this second half... Get your head out of your bleep and make me not care about the rumor of you three going out last night when you should have been resting and preparing for the biggest game of the season.

This can be moved to the "Where do the Celtics say at when in Miami?" thred if people feel the need.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 05:09:47 PM
Turnovers are the #1 killer for our team in this game...it's not the rebounding.



How can this possibly be the case when the Heat have 4 more turnovers than us and 14 more rebounds than us?

I was gonna ask for these numbers, thanks. Rebounding is the problem.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on April 10, 2011, 05:10:26 PM
Rondo has been a non-factor.

Paul Pierce is playing hero ball.

Ray Allen is playing golf.

BBD is on Mars. (I don't think I've ever screamed at my television so loudly when he was bringing the ball up. "PASS THE FRICKIN BALL!")

KG is playing incredibly well offensively.

I liked JO's hard foul, would love it more if the intensity rubs off on everyone else.

100%

And Jeff Green always has that grin on his face, like he's asking himself "where am I? What am I?"
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: j804 on April 10, 2011, 05:10:43 PM
It looks like age and/or tired legs with us we come out great and slowly we just nosedive
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:12:00 PM
shaq coming back is like a beautiful unicorn. we will never see it. he couldn't even go 6 minutes after 2 months off before getting hurt again.

rebounding is mostly about hustle and wanting it. to be down 14 boards to the heat is pathetic
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: j804 on April 10, 2011, 05:12:29 PM
KG looks hurt
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 05:12:44 PM
great, we started the 2nd half the same way we finished the 1st
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:13:02 PM
It looks like age and/or tired legs with us we come out great and slowly we just nosedive

yep. in the 2 biggest games of the late season they are going to be blown out. heat and bulls aren't even concerned about the celtics anymore.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Roy H. on April 10, 2011, 05:13:03 PM
new official stance:  This team is a nonfactor in the playoffs if Shaq doesn't come back  Either we get upset in round 1 or embarrassed in round 2.  Shame.  Getting outrebounded by a team with no big man.

Yeah, we need Shaq.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: lovely_20 on April 10, 2011, 05:13:16 PM
KG looks hurt

Not by that dunk he doesn't.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: mahonedog88 on April 10, 2011, 05:13:21 PM
Shaq will not come back...calling it now.

This offense has become despicable.  Ever since the trade, Ray Allen has become invisible in this offense.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Kuberski33 on April 10, 2011, 05:13:41 PM
It looks like age and/or tired legs with us we come out great and slowly we just nosedive
They have tired legs because their bench sucks.  The Lakers starting 5 would have tired legs too if they had our collection of stiffs on the bench subbing for them.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on April 10, 2011, 05:14:02 PM
It looks like age and/or tired legs with us we come out great and slowly we just nosedive

exactly. The only reason Ray Allen is taking fewer shots is because he's no longer able to run the court to get open looks.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on April 10, 2011, 05:14:18 PM
new official stance:  This team is a nonfactor in the playoffs if Shaq doesn't come back  Either we get upset in round 1 or embarrassed in round 2.  Shame.  Getting outrebounded by a team with no big man.

Yeah, we need Shaq.

Yeah Shaq would be nice, but Rondo is hurting this team right now, from what I see.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 05:14:43 PM
yep, great passing guys
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:14:56 PM
Shaq will not come back...calling it now.

This offense has become despicable.  Ever since the trade, Ray Allen has become invisible in this offense.

yeah. i never expect shaq to come back and give this team what they need. i think we are watching the window shut right before our eyes
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Who on April 10, 2011, 05:15:09 PM
new official stance:  This team is a nonfactor in the playoffs if Shaq doesn't come back  Either we get upset in round 1 or embarrassed in round 2.  Shame.  Getting outrebounded by a team with no big man.
If Jermaine O'Neal is good for 28-32mpg by the time the second round starts ... I think the Celtics will still be very dangerous in the playoffs.

However, if Shaq does not return + Jermaine cannot play more minutes or if he gets injured again, then I agree ... this team doesn't have a shot at a title.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: the_Bird on April 10, 2011, 05:15:42 PM
new official stance:  This team is a nonfactor in the playoffs if Shaq doesn't come back  Either we get upset in round 1 or embarrassed in round 2.  Shame.  Getting outrebounded by a team with no big man.

Yeah, we need Shaq.

I was hoping at the beginning of the season that Shaq was going to be like Bill Walton in 1986.  It's getting to be more and more like the 2011 model.

Dumb, dumb, dumb, DUMB to make a trade that's 100% reliant on Shaq and JO getting (and staying) healthy.  DUMB.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:16:11 PM
new official stance:  This team is a nonfactor in the playoffs if Shaq doesn't come back  Either we get upset in round 1 or embarrassed in round 2.  Shame.  Getting outrebounded by a team with no big man.
If Jermaine O'Neal is good for 28-32mpg by the time the second round starts ... I think the Celtics will still be very dangerous in the playoffs.

However, if Shaq does not return + Jermaine cannot play more minutes or if he gets injured again, then I agree ... this team doesn't have a shot at a title.


if the Cs get the knicks..they are in trouble
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: lovely_20 on April 10, 2011, 05:16:47 PM
Sweet, the pessimists are out in force.  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on April 10, 2011, 05:16:59 PM
the thing is: like the Bulls game, our opponent seems to run with two gears more. We just can't run with them on the court.. JO and Ray are hard to watch, both in D and O.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: The DarkPassenger on April 10, 2011, 05:17:36 PM
gundy just made some sense and I agree with him. Starting Green at the 4 would benefit the Cs cause well we suck at rebounds anyway.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 05:18:03 PM
new official stance:  This team is a nonfactor in the playoffs if Shaq doesn't come back  Either we get upset in round 1 or embarrassed in round 2.  Shame.  Getting outrebounded by a team with no big man.

Yeah, we need Shaq.

I was hoping at the beginning of the season that Shaq was going to be like Bill Walton in 1986.  It's getting to be more and more like the 2011 model.

Dumb, dumb, dumb, DUMB to make a trade that's 100% reliant on Shaq and JO getting (and staying) healthy.  DUMB.

That has always been my problem with the trade. How Danny could have so much faith in the health of Shaq and JO I will never understand.
Title: Doc bring Jeff Green instead of BBD..please
Post by: missyP on April 10, 2011, 05:18:45 PM
please
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:18:52 PM
i liked the trade when it went down....boy was I wrong. it has totally torpedoed this team. they have gained ZERO from it. the bench is worse...the offense is worse...the toughness is gone and the team (esp rondo) looks mentally spent

danny wagered shaq would be back by now and it has totally backfired...
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on April 10, 2011, 05:19:45 PM
Sweet, the pessimists are out in force.  ::)

I know I am, but I'm desperately trying to find ONE single reason to be optimistic..  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: mahonedog88 on April 10, 2011, 05:20:05 PM
Shaq will not come back...calling it now.

This offense has become despicable.  Ever since the trade, Ray Allen has become invisible in this offense.

yeah. i never expect shaq to come back and give this team what they need. i think we are watching the window shut right before our eyes

I agree...at first I waited before making a decision on how I feel about the trade, but clearly now, not a fan...the trade has absolutely killed this team.  The front office and medical staff obviously had no idea what they were talking about when it comes to Shaq, they traded away their only other good bigman for a guy who's used to playing 30+ minutes and is now playing 15-20 minutes a game which in turn is making him struggle and seem a little disinterested in playing for this team.

They're dead in the water.  I see a second round exit
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 05:20:18 PM
Sweet, the pessimists are out in force.  ::)

I would really love to be as optimistic as you are. I swear. Can you point out some things that you're seeing with this team right now that are boosting your optimism? And I'm being totally serious. Maybe there are just some things I'm not seeing.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: j804 on April 10, 2011, 05:20:36 PM
We are sooo bad at the Center position were getting killed by Ilguaskas
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 05:20:55 PM
This team looks cooked. Today was a big game with home court on the line and they can't even come close.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: angryguy77 on April 10, 2011, 05:21:17 PM
Doc should either bench the guy who passes lazy or just go to the locker room.

Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:21:47 PM
hard to be optimistic when against your two biggest rivals in the bulls and heat you get beat down like it is nothing. at the end of the season no less...

i guess we should just look at the wiz game friday...if that team wasn't d league level they would have beaten the Cs
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Drucci on April 10, 2011, 05:21:52 PM
Embarrassing. Rondo should be the most ashamed of all, I'm starting to question his pride, after getting smoked by terrible PG like Mo Williams he is now powerless against Mike Bibby, of all people.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: mahonedog88 on April 10, 2011, 05:22:02 PM
Sweet, the pessimists are out in force.  ::)

I know I am, but I'm desperately trying to find ONE single reason to be optimistic..  ::)

can you blame them though?  They've looked 100% outmatched by the two teams that will be their biggest competition in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: makaveli on April 10, 2011, 05:22:25 PM
I'm hoping for a massive comeback, we are due to have one
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: The DarkPassenger on April 10, 2011, 05:22:56 PM
both the trade and Marquis going down was key. The injury (which forced Danny to trade him) took away a key bench guy on offense and defense and Perk... well he's Perk.

Still think we'll be fine in the playoffs. Shaq and JO will not be healthy for them and will not play every game but if the new guys can get going we'll be just fine.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 05:23:15 PM
Sweet, the pessimists are out in force.  ::)

I know I am, but I'm desperately trying to find ONE single reason to be optimistic..  ::)

can you blame them though?  They've looked 100% outmatched by the two teams that will be their biggest competition in the playoffs.

yea, I can't blame them, it's hard to find anything to be optimistic about right now
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:23:22 PM
i am telling you this team might not survive the first round. they look like an 8 seed right now. no way they beat miami in round two.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Who on April 10, 2011, 05:23:32 PM
new official stance:  This team is a nonfactor in the playoffs if Shaq doesn't come back  Either we get upset in round 1 or embarrassed in round 2.  Shame.  Getting outrebounded by a team with no big man.
If Jermaine O'Neal is good for 28-32mpg by the time the second round starts ... I think the Celtics will still be very dangerous in the playoffs.

However, if Shaq does not return + Jermaine cannot play more minutes or if he gets injured again, then I agree ... this team doesn't have a shot at a title.


if the Cs get the knicks..they are in trouble
Nah, the C's have more than enough to beat the Knicks as is.

Not concerned about the first round opponent. Too large a talent gap between the top and the bottom of the East's playoff teams.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Roy H. on April 10, 2011, 05:24:23 PM
Sweet, the pessimists are out in force.  ::)

People are just reacting to the product they're seeing on the floor.  Neither Rondo nor Ray look right, and that's discouraging.  Plus, we have a gaping hole at the center position.

We'll all be pulling for this team once the playoffs start, but when they're playing the way they are right now, you're not going to hear a lot of encouraged fans, unfortunately.
Title: where is Shaq?
Post by: missyP on April 10, 2011, 05:24:27 PM
If there was any important regular season for him to play was today.. with home court on the line. But last week it went from Shaq will be back by mid week, oh Shaq will play on Friday,, and today ..??
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: P2 on April 10, 2011, 05:24:38 PM
I have lost all the faith in this team. This is it. They dig a hole for themselves and expect to get out of it in the playoffs? Not going to happen this year. They will regret not playing hard to end the regular season, because either they lose in the First Round, or at the very latest in the East Semis.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:24:42 PM
Embarrassing. Rondo should be the most ashamed of all, I'm starting to question his pride, after getting smoked by terrible PG like Mo Williams he is now powerless against Mike Bibby, of all people.

and will bynum...rose...holiday....williams...etc etc...rondo is playing like a spoiled brat
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: jbsprinter1 on April 10, 2011, 05:25:01 PM
Someone tell Baby to stop shooting!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: RMO on April 10, 2011, 05:25:12 PM
So, pass up on an open Ray Allen three pointer from the corner to get Glen Davis a 16 foot jump shot?  Is that what I just saw?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: ejk3489 on April 10, 2011, 05:25:19 PM
Wow, that shot was not necessary Baby.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: angryguy77 on April 10, 2011, 05:25:46 PM
Sweet, the pessimists are out in force.  ::)

I guess it's more fun giving up than you know actually rooting for the team. I need to ask some of these people what the next winning  lotto # is
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: The DarkPassenger on April 10, 2011, 05:25:56 PM
Celtics offense has become a bit predictable or is it just me?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: lovely_20 on April 10, 2011, 05:26:09 PM
Wide open Paul Pierce for 3.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 05:26:21 PM
finally, Rondo taking the short jumpers
Title: Re: where is Shaq?
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:26:24 PM
If there was any important regular season for him to play was today.. with home court on the line. But last week it went from Shaq will be back by mid week, oh Shaq will play on Friday,, and today ..??


exactly. this was the game to send a message. instead they are turtling up. heat know they can beat the Cs and can so easily
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Roy H. on April 10, 2011, 05:26:36 PM
I hate the lack of ball movement, but it's down to 9 again.  It's a start.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: j804 on April 10, 2011, 05:26:42 PM
i liked the trade when it went down....boy was I wrong. it has totally torpedoed this team. they have gained ZERO from it. the bench is worse...the offense is worse...the toughness is gone and the team (esp rondo) looks mentally spent

danny wagered shaq would be back by now and it has totally backfired...
It has disrupted our rotations offensively and defensively the entire team is spent because of it

Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 05:26:56 PM
That block just hurt my soul.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 05:27:13 PM
well, there goes that run
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: lovely_20 on April 10, 2011, 05:27:50 PM
Sigh.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:28:03 PM
I have lost all the faith in this team. This is it. They dig a hole for themselves and expect to get out of it in the playoffs? Not going to happen this year. They will regret not playing hard to end the regular season, because either they lose in the First Round, or at the very latest in the East Semis.


i am afraid you are right. i can easily see the heat winning a game in boston and moving on in 6
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Jon on April 10, 2011, 05:28:11 PM
Why can't Ray draw the foul there?  Pump fake it and then hit the free throws!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on April 10, 2011, 05:28:18 PM
Ray looks old and beaten.

That play was sad.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: angryguy77 on April 10, 2011, 05:29:10 PM
Nice LAZY effort baby tp get that board.

I hope da doesn't just trade him but puts him in a box and ships him to siberia
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:29:38 PM
i will go with my standard 15 point loss today when the dust settles. please Doc...rest EVERYONE the next 2 games. let baby shoot 50 times. take the losses and try to rally your team to maybe show some pride come playoffs
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: mahonedog88 on April 10, 2011, 05:30:07 PM
and KG has completely cooled off, there goes our only chance
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Kuberski33 on April 10, 2011, 05:30:16 PM
Assuming they lose this game, I shut down Rondo, PP, KG, Ray, Pig Baby and JO till the playoffs.  That's the best chance at this point.  Nothing positive comes out of playing out the remaining 3 games.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 05:30:16 PM
smh...
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:30:53 PM
this team has aged quickly the last 2 months. they look spent in every manner.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 05:31:20 PM
for the 1st time since we got KG and Ray, I feel like our window has closed.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Green Hell on April 10, 2011, 05:31:34 PM
Celtics Pride is dead. Ubuntu is dead.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Drucci on April 10, 2011, 05:31:44 PM
Wade actually caring to defend on Ray is making a difference in this one!

We had a run there but the momentum got reversed all the way, too bad.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: kg is king on April 10, 2011, 05:32:05 PM
this team has aged quickly the last 2 months. they look spent in every manner.

Where was that team in San Antonio. Please, I want that team to show up.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 05:32:07 PM
this team has aged quickly the last 2 months. they look spent in every manner.

I don't think its age. We're just really bad right now. They don't look tired and it seems like they are actually trying.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: makaveli on April 10, 2011, 05:32:30 PM
When we rebound, we have active Rondo and easy buckets.
Rebound=Win
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Roy H. on April 10, 2011, 05:32:47 PM
for the 1st time since we got KG and Ray, I feel like our window has closed.

Correction:  the window has been closed by Danny.

In all seriousness, though, we have four Hall of Famers and an all-star on the team.  Anything can happen in the playoffs if they rediscover their spark.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: P2 on April 10, 2011, 05:33:01 PM
I really really want the C's to fail miserably in the playoffs just to see the optimists' and the C's (especially Ainge's) reaction.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on April 10, 2011, 05:33:29 PM
Embarrassing. Rondo should be the most ashamed of all, I'm starting to question his pride, after getting smoked by terrible PG like Mo Williams he is now powerless against Mike Bibby, of all people.

Agreed.

I'm one of the most positive posters on here - maybe to a fault.

Even if Boston loses today, I still love our opportunity for Banner 18 this year.

But Rondo? Today?

Nope.

Pay me several million dollars a year and at least I'll go out there and work up a sweat, lol.......
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 05:33:33 PM
Ok, time to regroup. It's not over yet.

Go Celtics!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: CelticSooner on April 10, 2011, 05:33:40 PM
This one is all but over. Just don't know what to think about this team anymore. If this is truly the team we will see in playoffs it will be a thrashing.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Roy H. on April 10, 2011, 05:33:41 PM
Celtics Pride is dead. Ubuntu is dead.

Let's not go crazy here.  In hibernation, maybe, but not dead.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:33:46 PM
i would like to thank the big 3 for the last few years. they brought the Cs back to being important. With that said, the run is over. They aren't even close to the heat and the bulls.

the run last year was so great but i think this playoffs will be the opposite....very quick
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: missyP on April 10, 2011, 05:33:50 PM
for the 1st time since we got KG and Ray, I feel like our window has closed.

Ditto. what is worse is we put our hopes on the O'neal brothers to keep it alive, yet we get zero contribution from them to at least win home court in the regular season. How many players made little contribution in the regular season and came and won a championship for their teams.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: TerreHaute on April 10, 2011, 05:33:59 PM
Assuming they lose this game, I shut down Rondo, PP, KG, Ray, Pig Baby and JO till the playoffs.  That's the best chance at this point.  Nothing positive comes out of playing out the remaining 3 games.

Why bother waiting. They have taken the day off today, anyway.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Yvette on April 10, 2011, 05:34:11 PM
I love the Celtics... This is just too unbearable to watch right now...
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Roy H. on April 10, 2011, 05:34:44 PM
I really really want the C's to fail miserably in the playoffs just to see the optimists' and the C's (especially Ainge's) reaction.

See, these are the comments that lead to people calling others "bandwagon jumpers", and the like.  If you feel this way, it's better to keep it to yourself.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on April 10, 2011, 05:35:01 PM
This is sad, frustrating and almost unprofessional.

If this is the level of grit and energy for an important game like this, I think Doc has no longer control of the locker room.

With people walking the floor, we can head directly to the exit door.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: ejk3489 on April 10, 2011, 05:35:02 PM
I really really want the C's to fail miserably in the playoffs just to see the optimists' and the C's (especially Ainge's) reaction.

Ugh, I'd rather the Celtics win than prove to other fans that I was right, but that's just me.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 05:35:06 PM
I really really want the C's to fail miserably in the playoffs just to see the optimists' and the C's (especially Ainge's) reaction.

You know I thought about this but no. I want this team to win. They deserve to win. None of the personnel changes were their fault. I would much rather them win than for me to be right about this trade. But even so if we do bring home banner 18 it will be DESPITE the trade. Not because of it.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: j804 on April 10, 2011, 05:35:13 PM
this team has aged quickly the last 2 months. they look spent in every manner.

Where was that team in San Antonio. Please, I want that team to show up.
I wouldn't even be proud of that SA win they were in a bad stretch on top of that all coming back from injury

Meh
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Green Hell on April 10, 2011, 05:35:32 PM
Assuming they lose this game, I shut down Rondo, PP, KG, Ray, Pig Baby and JO till the playoffs.  That's the best chance at this point.  Nothing positive comes out of playing out the remaining 3 games.

Why bother waiting. They have taken the day off today, anyway.

If Doc had any guts he'd send them to the locker room right now. Shameful, shameful performance.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Who on April 10, 2011, 05:35:35 PM
Dwyane Wade's defense has been excellent tonight.

He has locked down Ray Allen, played superb help defense and made a couple of spectacular defensive plays in transition.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Frezz on April 10, 2011, 05:35:50 PM
The worst part isn't that this team sucks. It's that they don't care that they suck. They decided in February after the trade that their run was over and that was it.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Roy H. on April 10, 2011, 05:35:57 PM
for the 1st time since we got KG and Ray, I feel like our window has closed.

Ditto. what is worse is we put our hopes on the O'neal brothers to keep it alive, yet we get zero contribution from them to at least win home court in the regular season. How many players made little contribution in the regular season and came and won a championship for their teams.

In fairness, Shaq made a large contribution to this team's regular season record.  He did everything in his power, and then his body broke down. 
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:36:29 PM
for the 1st time since we got KG and Ray, I feel like our window has closed.

Correction:  the window has been closed by Danny.

In all seriousness, though, we have four Hall of Famers and an all-star on the team.  Anything can happen in the playoffs if they rediscover their spark.


the spark is in ok city. the sad thing is I told my son this morning the way this game would go...and it has gone exactly how i explained it. get out quick early...heat would hold a 5-7 point halftime lead and then they would blow the Cs out in the second half. this team is so predictable
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 05:36:43 PM
wow, we are even getting outrebounded by ourselves right now
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: mahonedog88 on April 10, 2011, 05:36:52 PM
This is the most pathetic rebounding team ive ever seen in my entire life
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Smitty77 on April 10, 2011, 05:37:00 PM
We have gone from one of the toughest teams in the league to one of the softest in less than one year.  We are a disgrace.  Why are we afraid to drive the ball to the hole against softy Chris Bosh and the dinosaur Ilgauskas??  

Very sad!!!

It is like losing a child.  We have lost a great team that was ONCE upon a time a tough team with heart of steel.

We cannot get a rebound or a loose ball.  We are soft.  We play like we are entitled.  We simply do NOT have any desire any more.  Pitiful.

Smitty77
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Yvette on April 10, 2011, 05:37:06 PM
Guys, there is still the play-offs... Maybe this is just a smokescreen of good things to come...  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 05:37:19 PM
59 points to start the 4th. No, the problem is not the defense, it's the offense.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Rondo2287 on April 10, 2011, 05:37:50 PM
can somebody shoot me a pm when the celts decide defensive rebounding is a good idea? otherwise im gonna watch the masters.  
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Spicoli on April 10, 2011, 05:37:52 PM
I want Davis gone. He just completely whiffed on a pick and immediately ran out towards the 3 point line hoping to get another jumpshot for himself.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on April 10, 2011, 05:38:35 PM
I really really want the C's to fail miserably in the playoffs just to see the optimists' and the C's (especially Ainge's) reaction.

You're going way too far.

To criticize the team end the organization is one thing, hoping the team will lose is just does not make you a fan at all.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: j804 on April 10, 2011, 05:38:52 PM
Assuming they lose this game, I shut down Rondo, PP, KG, Ray, Pig Baby and JO till the playoffs.  That's the best chance at this point.  Nothing positive comes out of playing out the remaining 3 games.

Why bother waiting. They have taken the day off today, anyway.
Get tired of hearing this crap it's not even about takin the day off were TRYING to win these games
Title: if a guy like Joel Anthony is beating you...???
Post by: missyP on April 10, 2011, 05:38:56 PM
You might need to make your early summer vacation plans if you are a celtic player. That pretty much sums up how our center position is too big a hole to hope for any miracles in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Roy H. on April 10, 2011, 05:39:08 PM
59 points to start the 4th. No, the problem is not the defense, it's the offense.

I would say it's both.  A large part of the problem with the offense is that nobody seems willing to do the dirty work any more. 

Doc pegged it exactly right:

1.  No team identity;
2.  "Soft" on defense;
3.  "Selfish" on offense
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:39:12 PM
the way this team has played the last month it is like they are just playing out the string instead of getting ready for the playoffs. they make me want to puke. i am ASHAMED of this team right now. from danny ainge to doc to the big 4 to jeff green.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: makaveli on April 10, 2011, 05:39:18 PM
59 points to start the 4th. No, the problem is not the defense, it's the offense.
With all due respect, you can't be more wrong, everything starts with defense(rebounds)
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: threats13 on April 10, 2011, 05:39:33 PM
are we supposed to just pretend that back to back blowouts by the our toughest competitors in the east with playoff seeding on the line is another example of us just being lazy and waiting for the playoffs? I dont buy it this team lost its mojo theyre clueless on offense they barely even give us glimpses of the greatness that once was.  
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 05:39:51 PM
Assuming they lose this game, I shut down Rondo, PP, KG, Ray, Pig Baby and JO till the playoffs.  That's the best chance at this point.  Nothing positive comes out of playing out the remaining 3 games.

Why bother waiting. They have taken the day off today, anyway.
Get tired of hearing this crap it's not even about takin the day off were TRYING to win these games


yep, that's the main problem I have right now, we are trying hard to win and we just suck
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Green Hell on April 10, 2011, 05:40:00 PM
The worst part isn't that this team sucks. It's that they don't care that they suck. They decided in February after the trade that their run was over and that was it.

Yup. They'll be crying about "unity" and "identity" when they get bounced in the second round too.

At least we know it's all getting blown up next year anyway.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: kg is king on April 10, 2011, 05:40:08 PM
this team has aged quickly the last 2 months. they look spent in every manner.

Where was that team in San Antonio. Please, I want that team to show up.
I wouldn't even be proud of that SA win they were in a bad stretch on top of that all coming back from injury

Meh

Right...This Miami team is on a good stretch after losing to the Bucks this Wednesday?  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:40:20 PM
they scored 32 in the second half against atlanta...they had 60s vs the bulls and now 59 through 3 vs the heat. pathetic.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 05:40:21 PM
Ok, Lebron choking abilities better start to show up... and the Celtics ball movement, of course.

Let's go Celtics!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: TerreHaute on April 10, 2011, 05:40:27 PM
We have gone from one of the toughest teams in the league to one of the softest in less than one year.  We are a disgrace.  Why are we afraid to drive the ball to the hole against softy Chris Bosh and the dinosaur Ilgauskas??  

Very sad!!!

It is like losing a child.  We have lost a great team that was ONCE upon a time a tough team with heart of steel.

Don't forget dumb. Some of the defensive rotations look like a junior high team I used to coach. Just a total lack of effort and focus. Evidently, last year proved to them that home court advantage doesn't mean too much.

We cannot get a rebound or a loose ball.  We are soft.  We play like we are entitled.  We simply do NOT have any desire any more.  Pitiful.

Smitty77
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on April 10, 2011, 05:40:51 PM
Guys, there is still the play-offs... Maybe this is just a smokescreen of good things to come...  ::)

yeah, right..  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Roy H. on April 10, 2011, 05:41:26 PM
I want Davis gone. He just completely whiffed on a pick and immediately ran out towards the 3 point line hoping to get another jumpshot for himself.

Yeah, I joked a few games ago about whether BBD was refusing to set picks so that he'd get the shots that Ray otherwise would.  Unfortunately, it looks like there could be some truth to that.

And yet, Doc is the one playing him.  He must really hate Jeff Green's game, because Baby has been hurting us for awhile.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Change on April 10, 2011, 05:41:45 PM
I miss Kendrick Perkins
(http://assets.gearlive.com/endscore/blogimages/kendrick-perkins.jpg)
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Who on April 10, 2011, 05:41:58 PM
They need to get Jeff Green going quickly here in the fourth quarter.

Run the offense through him in the low post and see if they can get it down to single digits by the time the starters return.

Then keep Jeff Green out there as a PF alongside Garnett. Go with their best offensive players and see where you end up ... nothing to lose at this point. Just see if you can get some rhythm going offensively and try to make a run.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 05:42:20 PM
It's pretty sad when celtics players talk trash and play like a bunch of little girls
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Green Hell on April 10, 2011, 05:42:53 PM
BABY NEEDS MORE SHOTS

FEED PIG BABY
Title: Oh sweet.. now we live and die by Glen Baby jumpers
Post by: missyP on April 10, 2011, 05:43:11 PM
thank you BBD for this aggravation.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 05:43:14 PM
We are really getting blown out...wow. This is nightmarish. Truly.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: TerreHaute on April 10, 2011, 05:43:23 PM
Assuming they lose this game, I shut down Rondo, PP, KG, Ray, Pig Baby and JO till the playoffs.  That's the best chance at this point.  Nothing positive comes out of playing out the remaining 3 games.
We must not be watching the same game. The Celtic teams of the last few years were getting loose balls, defending their turf, and intimidating the other team. There has been none of that in this game or the Bulls a few nights ago. If they are trying, that can only mean we are done, because what we have shown this week simply isn't good enough.
Why bother waiting. They have taken the day off today, anyway.
Get tired of hearing this crap it's not even about takin the day off were TRYING to win these games
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 05:43:25 PM
awful, easily the worst game of the year
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:43:46 PM
i want davis traded for a box of basketballs. blackhole sucks. danny decided to cut the championship cord when he made that deal..and it has totally destroyed any chance we had of winning a title.

this team right now will be lucky to win a round of the playoffs...the heat with run this team into the ground
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: farringa on April 10, 2011, 05:43:51 PM
They just pass the ball around the three point line like they are trying to run down the clock.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: PseudoElite on April 10, 2011, 05:44:25 PM
I've never been so angry watching a game in my entire life. TV is off and that's that.

We belong in the D league with this level of play.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 05:44:25 PM
I miss Kendrick Perkins
(http://assets.gearlive.com/endscore/blogimages/kendrick-perkins.jpg)


I miss Tony Allen, but they play for other teams.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on April 10, 2011, 05:44:36 PM
Ray Allen scares me: it seems like he's on Venus
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Who on April 10, 2011, 05:44:43 PM
They need to get Jeff Green going quickly here in the fourth quarter.

Run the offense through him in the low post and see if they can get it down to single digits by the time the starters return.

Bah, LeBron stayed in ... that will likely neutralize Green's post up game.

LeBron can play him straight up, avoid Miami sending help defenders, and likely make Green inefficient enough in his scoring to stop a run from happening.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:44:46 PM
We are really getting blown out...wow. This is nightmarish. Truly.

are you surprised? they barely had enough to beat the wiz the other night. and don't be surprised when they lose again tomorrow. this team is finished
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 05:44:53 PM
this team deserves to get booed off the floor during the pregame intros when they come back to boston
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: jaser on April 10, 2011, 05:45:11 PM
Lebron owning Green! smh. We let go of big bad Perk for this guy???
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: mahonedog88 on April 10, 2011, 05:45:44 PM
The worst part isn't that this team sucks. It's that they don't care that they suck. They decided in February after the trade that their run was over and that was it.

Yup. They'll be crying about "unity" and "identity" when they get bounced in the second round too.

At least we know it's all getting blown up next year anyway.

Yeah, at this point, I'm not EXCITED to see them blow up this team, but its getting to that point where I'd rather see something new...maybe that's Jeff Green in a starting role, maybe not...but all I know is that it's just getting depressing watching this team play against the top competition now...they look old, they look past their championship days, and that it just can't be solved anymore.

And that last foul on Davis was purely him just not caring.  There was no need to foul Jones on that shot
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: The DarkPassenger on April 10, 2011, 05:45:44 PM
OMG get Davis out of the game, he is just horrible.

Get a positive out of this game, put in the rest of the new guys and try to get them valuable minutes and get them ready for the playoffs.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Green Hell on April 10, 2011, 05:46:10 PM
this team deserves to get booed off the floor during the pregame intros when they come back to boston

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Title: Before i log off.. Glen Davis can take Jeff Green with him on his way out !!
Post by: missyP on April 10, 2011, 05:46:20 PM
Yes.. i don't care watching a sub .500 celtics team next year as long as BBD is not part of it. If he is, i am taking my (fanhood) talents to the clippers.

cheers ya'll.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 05:46:51 PM
We are really getting blown out...wow. This is nightmarish. Truly.

are you surprised? they barely had enough to beat the wiz the other night. and don't be surprised when they lose again tomorrow. this team is finished

You know I wouldn't have cared if we lost all of the last few games. I wouldn't care if we were blown out by 40 in all of them. All I wanted was for us to beat the Bulls and the Heat. Thats all.

I'm really just at a loss right now. This hurts. Badly.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Scribbles on April 10, 2011, 05:47:05 PM
Man Davis is so selfish.  Twice this quarter Krstic has been open near the basket and he's forced up contested shots instead of passing. He's been a complete black hole
Title: Re: Before i log off.. Glen Davis can take Jeff Green with him on his way out !!
Post by: kg is king on April 10, 2011, 05:47:14 PM
Yes.. i don't care watching a sub .500 celtics team next year as long as BBD is not part of it. If he is, i am taking my (fanhood) talents to the clippers.

cheers ya'll.

It's okay, we won't miss bandwagoners like you either. Have fun in LA
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:47:17 PM
please...bench everyone until the playoffs....just forfiet the next 2 games.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: P2 on April 10, 2011, 05:47:52 PM
I just want to see the faces of the Celtics players when (not if) their lackluster play right now is going to bite them back in the playoffs. Ainge's plan starts to backfire drastically.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 05:48:01 PM
Blown out in Miami... hard to take, but it happens.

The most worrying thing is Green's defense. He seems a bit lost, but he's not the only one being embarrassed out there.

Time to experiment with the BBD/Murphy combo, Doc.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on April 10, 2011, 05:48:14 PM
I feel humiliated, and I had enough of this crap.

I just can't believe this team lost every aspect of his identity in two months.

Good night everybody (here in Italy is almost midnight..).
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Who on April 10, 2011, 05:48:17 PM
Okay, this is over.

Not a lot to be taken from this game.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: houseonfire09 on April 10, 2011, 05:48:48 PM
I tried to give Danny the benefit of the doubt for the Perkins trade, but he really needs to be fired for this trade.  This season feels like the Grady Little Game in super slow motion right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:49:07 PM
61 points half way through the 4th. this team is a joke
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: RMO on April 10, 2011, 05:49:24 PM
this team deserves to get booed off the floor during the pregame intros when they come back to boston

I wish this game had been in Boston.  They deserve to be booed by their fans.
Title: Re: Before i log off.. Glen Davis can take Jeff Green with him on his way out !!
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 05:49:35 PM
Yes.. i don't care watching a sub .500 celtics team next year as long as BBD is not part of it. If he is, i am taking my (fanhood) talents to the clippers.

cheers ya'll.

It's okay, we won't miss bandwagoners like you either. Have fun in LA

bandwagon or not, if I want to watch a fat, self centered loser chuck up shots I'll walk down to my local basketball court instead of paying my hard earned $$ to go to a celtics game to watch Davis. Heck, even at the local court a guy would get smacked for playing like that
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on April 10, 2011, 05:50:02 PM
I miss Kendrick Perkins
(http://assets.gearlive.com/endscore/blogimages/kendrick-perkins.jpg)


I miss Rondo even more.

He's not here today.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 05:50:05 PM
Can't watch this anymore.
Title: Re: Before i log off.. Glen Davis can take Jeff Green with him on his way out !!
Post by: missyP on April 10, 2011, 05:50:09 PM
Yes.. i don't care watching a sub .500 celtics team next year as long as BBD is not part of it. If he is, i am taking my (fanhood) talents to the clippers.

cheers ya'll.

It's okay, we won't miss bandwagoners like you either. Have fun in LA

Oh please.. you don't even know how many years I have stood by this team through thick and thin. I just do not want BBD. it that is bandwagon.. i will take it. I think you are taking your frustrations on the wrong person.. focus on the celtics.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Green Hell on April 10, 2011, 05:50:12 PM
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Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: RMO on April 10, 2011, 05:50:19 PM
I wonder if chanting "Boston Sucks" was on the "What Fan's Need to Do" checklist that the Heat handed out to fans before the game.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 05:50:21 PM
The Heatles remind me of the Cleveland teams.

Enter the playoffs, please!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Drucci on April 10, 2011, 05:50:34 PM
Why is Doc playing the starters again? Is he trying to get them hurt or what?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: TerreHaute on April 10, 2011, 05:50:53 PM
It is hard to imagine that a rusty 38 year-old will be this big a difference maker for us. Let's hope the intelligence and effort return for the playoffs, as they did last year.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: P2 on April 10, 2011, 05:51:19 PM
If we dropped out prior to the Finals the last couple of years, I would feel embarrased every time. But this season, this is what they deserve. To drop out in the East Semis, if not in the First Round.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 05:51:33 PM
It is hard to imagine that a rusty 38 year-old will be this big a difference maker for us. Let's hope the intelligence and effort return for the playoffs, as they did last year.

39 year old
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:51:38 PM
Cs just another team now. the are in the water bleeding and the sharks are eating them from every angle. can't wait until they get beat in the first game of the playoffs vs the knicks...

i am just ready for this season to be over. i just don't have it in me anymore to watch them perform the way they have the last 20 games
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on April 10, 2011, 05:52:14 PM
Even Mark Jackson said it in his comments....he stated that something's just not right with Rondo - and he noted that he hasn't been the same since the All-Star break.

I wonder if it had anything to do with Feb. 24?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: zerophase on April 10, 2011, 05:53:14 PM
We need to stop being embarrassed on national tv.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: TerreHaute on April 10, 2011, 05:53:21 PM
Even Mark Jackson said it in his comments....he stated that something's just not right with Rondo - and he noted that he hasn't been the same since the All-Star break.

I wonder if it had anything to do with Feb. 24?

If that is the case, Rondo needs to grow up and be a professional.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: The DarkPassenger on April 10, 2011, 05:53:39 PM
I tried to give Danny the benefit of the doubt for the Perkins trade, but he really needs to be fired for this trade.  This season feels like the Grady Little Game in super slow motion right now.

Danny will be fine when the season is over. He'll be on the hot seat big time next season (if it happens) especially if they get knocked out in round 1. If they make it to the finals, he'll be fine.

I like this line up. I know keeping the starters in is not good but they NEED to try and experiment with this lineup with Green in with the starting 4.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: P2 on April 10, 2011, 05:53:43 PM
Cs just another team now. the are in the water bleeding and the sharks are eating them from every angle. can't wait until they get beat in the first game of the playoffs vs the knicks...

i am just ready for this season to be over. i just don't have it in me anymore to watch them perform the way they have the last 20 games

+1. Terrible. The window is closed as far as I'm concerned, and I will just be happy to be a mediocre team again and enjoy all the wins we can get instead of feeling like the top dog and be proven wrong again and again.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 05:53:52 PM
I feel bad for KG, he's the only guy trying out there for us right now
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:54:01 PM
they traded rondo's bestfriend and rondo has been punishing the organization for it.

this team is just not right...on or off the court
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: PseudoElite on April 10, 2011, 05:54:31 PM
Celtics should be ashamed of themselves, being paid millions to be made fools out of on national television.

Go retire already and do the world a favor.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: kg is king on April 10, 2011, 05:54:49 PM
Ray looking for his shots now, an encouraging thing. I think he is starting to figure out that he shouldn't rely on people feeding him. Always good to be aggressive.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Mike-Dub on April 10, 2011, 05:55:18 PM
Don't give up guys... I know this team is better than it is showing and will prove it in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: P2 on April 10, 2011, 05:55:40 PM
Go retire already and do the world a favor.

Tell that to Shaq. And JO.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 05:55:44 PM
they traded rondo's bestfriend and rondo has been punishing the organization for it.

this team is just not right...on or off the court

the last time I checked he was still getting paid big $$ to play basketball, and his best friend Perk got a big raise even though he has two bad knees, so he should suck it up
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Green Hell on April 10, 2011, 05:55:47 PM
If we dropped out prior to the Finals the last couple of years, I would feel embarrased every time. But this season, this is what they deserve. To drop out in the East Semis, if not in the First Round.

Yeah, no matter how you slice it, this team does not deserve to win a championship. I'd rather see a team that plays with some heart and desire win more than these soft entitled egomaniacs.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:55:52 PM
HEY PIERCE AND ALLEN...i thought today was going to be different...you even said so....talk is cheap. you played like dogs again today...that is twice in 5 days. appreciate it captain
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: lovely_20 on April 10, 2011, 05:56:18 PM
Don't give up guys... I know this team is better than it is showing and will prove it in the playoffs.

Exactly. TP.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: angryguy77 on April 10, 2011, 05:56:37 PM
Even Mark Jackson said it in his comments....he stated that something's just not right with Rondo - and he noted that he hasn't been the same since the All-Star break.

I wonder if it had anything to do with Feb. 24?

If it does, he needs to be traded. He wouldn't be worthy to wear a celtic uniform if he let's the trade of his gf affect his play
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: MaxAMillion on April 10, 2011, 05:57:10 PM
this team deserves to get booed off the floor during the pregame intros when they come back to boston

No they don't...the players deserve a standing ovation for bring back Celtic basketball. Unfortunately the KG/Pierce/Ray era is over. I knew the minute DA traded Perk that it was over. All you had to do was read about the reaction from the players to tell that this would cripple the team.

 The starting 5 (Perk included) deserved a chance to go out on their swords. Instead the team will go out looking dazed and confused.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: throwedoff on April 10, 2011, 05:57:19 PM
Only Pierce and Garnett decided to show up for this game smh
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:57:38 PM
they traded rondo's bestfriend and rondo has been punishing the organization for it.

this team is just not right...on or off the court

the last time I checked he was still getting paid big $$ to play basketball, and his best friend Perk got a big raise even though he has two bad knees, so he should suck it up

he should...if he wasn't a brat
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: KungPoweChicken on April 10, 2011, 05:57:58 PM
Right now we're seeing what would happen if Doc had the spine to bench Davis and play Green. Maybe this will be a wake up call for him?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: kg is king on April 10, 2011, 05:58:08 PM
Good to see some life from this team.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 05:58:33 PM
the torch has been passed. thursday and today showed this.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: get_banners on April 10, 2011, 05:58:40 PM
hey, going small = we score points. how about that. no baby, more green = we play better. incredible.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: The DarkPassenger on April 10, 2011, 05:58:41 PM
If this is a small taste of what the Cs can play like when Green is with the starters... keep this lineup going. Green spreads the floor... gives them another scorer.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Roy H. on April 10, 2011, 05:58:59 PM
Even Mark Jackson said it in his comments....he stated that something's just not right with Rondo - and he noted that he hasn't been the same since the All-Star break.

I wonder if it had anything to do with Feb. 24?

If it does, he needs to be traded. He wouldn't be worthy to wear a celtic uniform if he let's the trade of his gf affect his play

Do you think the Thunder would turn us down in we asked for Westbrook in return for Rondo, Wunderkind Jeff Green, and the Clippers #1?  :P
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: lovely_20 on April 10, 2011, 05:59:02 PM
Starting to show some life...late, but better late than never.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: zerophase on April 10, 2011, 05:59:23 PM
Jeff Green at the 4 actually working?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 06:00:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4)

Go Celtics!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on April 10, 2011, 06:01:30 PM
Even Mark Jackson said it in his comments....he stated that something's just not right with Rondo - and he noted that he hasn't been the same since the All-Star break.

I wonder if it had anything to do with Feb. 24?

If it does, he needs to be traded. He wouldn't be worthy to wear a celtic uniform if he let's the trade of his gf affect his play

And see....that's what I'm most afraid of...is it possible for a player to attempt to punish an organization just because they traded a player away?

To me, that's unfathomable....

As much as I wear Green-Tinted glasses around here....I have to take them off for a minute and wonder what is up with Rondo?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 06:01:48 PM
Jeff Green at the 4 actually working?


Not really.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: KungPoweChicken on April 10, 2011, 06:02:01 PM
Just pathetic by Rondo on that play. No heart at all. I want him gone in the off season.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 06:02:04 PM
they whole reason they got jeff green was to play him late in games with the big 4..instead all this time doc plays baby...which has cost the celtics games and the 2 seed. i just don't understand.

the closing line up should be the big 4 and green...send baby to the buffet
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Adelaide Celt on April 10, 2011, 06:02:13 PM
Should've traded Davis instead of Perkins ::) >:(
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: get_banners on April 10, 2011, 06:02:16 PM
i'll say this...if the heat ever play like this consistently in the postseason, nobody will beat them. which is to say, we're getting the absolute best they'll ever play.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Green Hell on April 10, 2011, 06:02:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4)

Go Celtics!!!



Bwahahahahaha!
Here comes the come back guys hahahaha
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: zerophase on April 10, 2011, 06:02:31 PM
Did rondo ever learn how to make layups? I swear he misses the most amount of layups in the NBA.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: makaveli on April 10, 2011, 06:02:56 PM
Time-out taken so they can clean Rondo's poop under the basket
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: prov1ml34 on April 10, 2011, 06:03:47 PM
We keep getting unfortunate injuries. When can we get a BBD injury so it's a fortunate one for once?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on April 10, 2011, 06:04:06 PM
Did rondo ever learn how to make layups? I swear he misses the most amount of layups in the NBA.

I was watching the Bulls/Magic earlier and every time Rose made a layup all I could think was "Wow...I bet Rondo would have missed that."
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 06:04:18 PM
i have no expectations of this team now. nothing they do or don't so will surprise me. they lose in the first round then so be it
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 06:04:25 PM
this team's current and future success all rides on Rondo, whether we like it or not
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: kg is king on April 10, 2011, 06:04:38 PM
Time-out taken so they can clean Rondo's poop under the basket

As dreadful as it is to watch this game, you're comment cracked me up. TP  :)
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 06:04:49 PM
they whole reason they got jeff green was to play him late in games with the big 4..instead all this time doc plays baby...which has cost the celtics games and the 2 seed. i just don't understand.

the closing line up should be the big 4 and green...send baby to the buffet

You're right. And I'm sure Doc will close games with Green in the playoffs. With every game it seems more evident Doc is trying to make Baby loose weight by overplaying him. I don't find any other rational answer to that mistery.

Go Celtics, I want another LeChoke showing!!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 06:05:27 PM
wow Paul, what was that?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: The DarkPassenger on April 10, 2011, 06:05:50 PM
Even Mark Jackson said it in his comments....he stated that something's just not right with Rondo - and he noted that he hasn't been the same since the All-Star break.

I wonder if it had anything to do with Feb. 24?

If it does, he needs to be traded. He wouldn't be worthy to wear a celtic uniform if he let's the trade of his gf affect his play

And see....that's what I'm most afraid of...is it possible for a player to attempt to punish an organization just because they traded a player away?

To me, that's unfathomable....

As much as I wear Green-Tinted glasses around here....I have to take them off for a minute and wonder what is up with Rondo?

I extremely doubt he is punishing the organization for trading his friend, could be wrong but still doubt it.

I fear that Rondo has peaked it terms of potentially and getting better. That is the only thing negative about being on a team with so many other better scorers, Rondo might think he doesn't have to work on his offense because he is surrounded by HOFers. So is this who he is going to be? Hope not, I think he can develop a jump shot, if he does he's deadly, if not he's just another above average PG.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: zerophase on April 10, 2011, 06:06:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSMh034KRZ4

rondo can fill one of these up on his own.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Green Hell on April 10, 2011, 06:06:42 PM
We should've traded Ray last season at the All Star break.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 06:06:47 PM
can't wait to hear the excuses from Doc and company tonight! that will be more entertaining than this slopfest
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: CelticSooner on April 10, 2011, 06:07:01 PM
i have no expectations of this team now. nothing they do or don't so will surprise me. they lose in the first round then so be it

haha

We are a wildcard once again. They could have another run in them or may just fuzzle out. No one knows for certain but it does look like the latter as of now.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: get_banners on April 10, 2011, 06:07:31 PM
yeah...the heat will never play this well again. and if they do, nobody will beat them.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: TerreHaute on April 10, 2011, 06:07:43 PM
Why bother stopping the clock with a timeout. Doc, KG, and Pierce are the only ones caring today.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on April 10, 2011, 06:07:52 PM
And poor Delonte....Man, if he was 100%, we'd probably still be in this game.

I read somewhere that even though he is playing right now, he will need surgery on his wrist after the season is over.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 06:08:12 PM
the Heat closing the game... this must be the end of the world as we know it!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaIN2FzZDgo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaIN2FzZDgo)
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Original Creation on April 10, 2011, 06:09:00 PM
LeBron.  The greatest front-runner of all time.  Just don't look for him to make a big shot when his team is trailing or tied.

We will still wreck this team if we meet them in the playoffs, of that I'm sure.  Home court doesn't mean a thing.  You think anyone on our roster is afraid to play a big playoff game in Miami?  Please.  
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: lovely_20 on April 10, 2011, 06:09:40 PM
LeBron.  The greatest front-runner of all time.  Just don't look for him to make a big shot when his team is trailing or tied.

We will still wreck this team if we meet them in the playoffs, of that I'm sure.  Home court doesn't mean a thing.  You think anyone on our roster is afraid to play a big playoff game in Miami?  Please. 

The earlier tussles prove that they are not.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 06:11:28 PM
games like this used to bother me. but i just don't care anymore. if they are going to put forth an effort like this..i am not going to waste my energy getting upset
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Original Creation on April 10, 2011, 06:13:00 PM
Remember when all the NBA upper-crust were begging Troy Murphy to play for them...?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: prov1ml34 on April 10, 2011, 06:13:08 PM
games like this used to bother me. but i just don't care anymore. if they are going to put forth an effort like this..i am not going to waste my energy getting upset

I totally agree. If they don't feel like putting forth effort why should I get all upset and let it ruin my day/week.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on April 10, 2011, 06:14:54 PM
Even Mark Jackson said it in his comments....he stated that something's just not right with Rondo - and he noted that he hasn't been the same since the All-Star break.

I wonder if it had anything to do with Feb. 24?

If it does, he needs to be traded. He wouldn't be worthy to wear a celtic uniform if he let's the trade of his gf affect his play

And see....that's what I'm most afraid of...is it possible for a player to attempt to punish an organization just because they traded a player away?

To me, that's unfathomable....

As much as I wear Green-Tinted glasses around here....I have to take them off for a minute and wonder what is up with Rondo?

I extremely doubt he is punishing the organization for trading his friend, could be wrong but still doubt it.

I fear that Rondo has peaked it terms of potentially and getting better. That is the only thing negative about being on a team with so many other better scorers, Rondo might think he doesn't have to work on his offense because he is surrounded by HOFers. So is this who he is going to be? Hope not, I think he can develop a jump shot, if he does he's deadly, if not he's just another above average PG.

Man, I hope you are right, DP.

It's just that the Rondo that've we've all seen the last two post-seasons seems to be missing right now.

Yes - his play against DRose in 08-09 playoffs could be attributed to Rose not being that good - yet.

Rose has obviously gotten better..congrats to him for working on his game.

Like you said and others have said on here - Rajon Rondo needs to continue to work on his game, but right now I think he needs someone to work on his mind more than anything else.

I've been wrong before when it comes to basketball....I hope I'm wrong today.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 06:15:08 PM
Remember when all the NBA upper-crust were begging Troy Murphy to play for them...?

yeah. i actually thought he would be important. what a joke
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on April 10, 2011, 06:17:27 PM
The only thing that could save this day is Perk and Co putting their sneakers up LA's behinds later on tonight ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: curacha on April 10, 2011, 06:17:43 PM
hate it.

*poof*

anyway since i'm already up and it's 6am here in manila, might as well go out for a jog just to get this crappy feeling out of my system...
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: aporel#18 on April 10, 2011, 06:18:32 PM
Horrid game. The starting 5 could have blown out Miami but it's clear that they don't care for any game. I expect a totally different attitude in the playoffs.

If only Doc stopped messing with the rotation, it would be easier to get wins. I hope he really knows what he's doing.

Are we still on time to cut Murphy/Sasha and sign Sheed? We'll need a lot of legit 7-footers because of foul trouble.

Have fun, my friends, the regular season doesn't matter at all.

Go Celtics!!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 06:19:03 PM
wow...77 points vs the heat and 78 vs the bulls. what an absolute joke. that is pathetic
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 06:20:28 PM
3 seed baby!!! YES!!! way to go Cs!!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Original Creation on April 10, 2011, 06:21:14 PM
What does it say that Murphy can't get one meaningful minute in a game where we get out-rebounded by 68?  I mean, I'm not picking on the guy, but didn't we get him to beef up the frontcourt?  SMH
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 06:21:23 PM
wow, 2 points and 1 rebound out of our 2 centers tonight? Really? Totally pathetic.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 06:23:04 PM
time to just sit EVERYONE. i mean play bradley, sasha, murphy, and a few other for the entire game the next 2 nights. just pointless really..not like this team can score enough anymore
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Original Creation on April 10, 2011, 06:23:49 PM
3 seed baby!!! YES!!! way to go Cs!!
I'm not so  much bothered by the seeding.  I am fully confident that the "real" Celtics team (aka fully-engaged and smelling blood) can win on any court at any time.  But just the casual crappiness of late is tough to stomach.  I gave them a mulligan versus Chicago because that is a legit team with a great defensive coach and winning players.  The team we lost to today is a hoax of a title contender.  I'm not surprised that the ABC television clowns were fawning over them, basically disregarding the Bulls.  What league have they been watching the past two months??
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 06:27:26 PM
i just think something has to change quick for this team to be considered a legit threat...right now i just don't see it
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 06:30:55 PM
lol at Heinson " we all should get the tommy award for watching today"
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Original Creation on April 10, 2011, 06:31:46 PM
i just think something has to change quick for this team to be considered a legit threat...right now i just don't see it
I hear ya.  This last month or so has been a lot for us top suffer as fans.  But, I'm still hoping that we'll be all-hands-on-deck come Game One next weekend and we'll give the Sixers or Knicks a good workout before moving onto a Miami rematch.  

Gotta just keep in mind: Miami is nowhere near as good as they were today; and we're not nearly as bad.  

Keep the faith.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 06:31:54 PM
SMH AT 77 and 78 points vs the bulls and heat
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Original Creation on April 10, 2011, 06:36:18 PM
I was encouraged by our ball movement and inside scoring in the first quarter.  Then...well, then the roof fell in.  We've been very poor at answering runs by our opponents.  We're very bad at closing quarters of late, also.  Those two together make for a very bad combo, especially against premiere teams.  And, shoot, can we please find a way to get Ray more shots??  Good Lord!
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 06:37:36 PM
does Ray even play for the Cs? my god he is MIA
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Original Creation on April 10, 2011, 06:42:08 PM
He seems to go missing quite often lately.  When he and Rondo are both rolling, we're next-to-impossible to beat.  When they're not...
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 06:43:34 PM
He seems to go missing quite often lately.  When he and Rondo are both rolling, we're next-to-impossible to beat.  When they're not...

i agree. but it looks like age is catching ray and rondo is mentally in another world
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Original Creation on April 10, 2011, 06:45:33 PM
But, see, Ray is strange like that.  Recall last year he would be ghost for stretches -- especially in playoff series.  I don't think it's so much age.  I think it's a product of ball movement and team play.  Too much iso and Ray is useless practically.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: hpantazo on April 10, 2011, 06:46:50 PM
He seems to go missing quite often lately.  When he and Rondo are both rolling, we're next-to-impossible to beat.  When they're not...

i agree. but it looks like age is catching ray and rondo is mentally in another world

Doc defending Rondo some in his postgame comments, saying you can't set the pace when the opponent shoots 51% and gets every rebound, and that affected Rondo the most
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 06:49:36 PM
i just don't see how boston was beaten so badly on the boards by this heat team. just unreal
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: KobeShesNotConsenting! on April 10, 2011, 06:52:01 PM
i just don't see how boston was beaten so badly on the boards by this heat team. just unreal

Jermaine Oneal and Kristic combine for 0 rebounds. That's a pretty good way of gettin that done
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 06:52:30 PM
i just don't see how boston was beaten so badly on the boards by this heat team. just unreal

Jermaine Oneal and Kristic combine for 0 rebounds. That's a pretty good way of gettin that done


god that is putrid
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: LB3533 on April 10, 2011, 06:53:37 PM
But, see, Ray is strange like that.  Recall last year he would be ghost for stretches -- especially in playoff series.  I don't think it's so much age.  I think it's a product of ball movement and team play.  Too much iso and Ray is useless practically.

I agree with this, but I see very frequently we try to get Ray shots, to a fault...which leads to a lot of rushed shots at the end of the shot clock....a lot of these shots are BBD shots instead of Ray Allen jumpers.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: LB3533 on April 10, 2011, 06:54:53 PM
I was encouraged by our ball movement and inside scoring in the first quarter.  Then...well, then the roof fell in.  We've been very poor at answering runs by our opponents.  We're very bad at closing quarters of late, also.  Those two together make for a very bad combo, especially against premiere teams.  And, shoot, can we please find a way to get Ray more shots??  Good Lord!

Our second unit just ain't that great.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 06:55:37 PM
but this team can't score...they can't rebound...they don't defend and they look mentally weak. i have never seen A team go from dominate to just bad so quickly.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Original Creation on April 10, 2011, 06:55:59 PM
Yeah, most games I think too much emphasis is put on the rebounding margin and the number of offensive boards.  It's sometimes deceiving.  More so, the percentage of available rebounds gotten or 50/50s is more telling.  But, today, there is no hiding behind those type of things.  Plain and simple, we got out-hustled and beaten up.  

On a related topic, maybe if we started to BOX OUT a little bit?  I know, I know.  This is the NBA, and boxing out is for college kids.  But a little bit of the basics might at least put a bandaid on our issue.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Original Creation on April 10, 2011, 06:57:37 PM
But, see, Ray is strange like that.  Recall last year he would be ghost for stretches -- especially in playoff series.  I don't think it's so much age.  I think it's a product of ball movement and team play.  Too much iso and Ray is useless practically.

I agree with this, but I see very frequently we try to get Ray shots, to a fault...which leads to a lot of rushed shots at the end of the shot clock....a lot of these shots are BBD shots instead of Ray Allen jumpers.
Great observation.  I'll add to that the emergence of shot clock violations against us.  It's baffling.  It's as if they're over-thinking the game.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: celticinorlando on April 10, 2011, 07:02:11 PM
But, see, Ray is strange like that.  Recall last year he would be ghost for stretches -- especially in playoff series.  I don't think it's so much age.  I think it's a product of ball movement and team play.  Too much iso and Ray is useless practically.


you notice how the ball always seems to find baby late in the shot clock? baffles me

I agree with this, but I see very frequently we try to get Ray shots, to a fault...which leads to a lot of rushed shots at the end of the shot clock....a lot of these shots are BBD shots instead of Ray Allen jumpers.
Great observation.  I'll add to that the emergence of shot clock violations against us.  It's baffling.  It's as if they're over-thinking the game.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: LB3533 on April 10, 2011, 07:10:22 PM
Somewhere in between the end of the 1st quarter and the start of the 2nd....if we had just taken care of the ball and not made dumb turnovers we could have limited a lot of the points the Heat were not getting prior to the transition game.

If we just played normal, safe, ran our own offense like we did coming right out of the gate in the 1st quarter we could have extended our early 9 point lead.

There were a lot of early game Heat points that we gifted them...they didn't earn them.

They got confidence from those points and then we started to miss shots....the Heat's defensive energy picked up and our slump played right into the Heat's D.

 
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Original Creation on April 10, 2011, 07:17:22 PM
Somewhere in between the end of the 1st quarter and the start of the 2nd....if we had just taken care of the ball and not made dumb turnovers we could have limited a lot of the points the Heat were not getting prior to the transition game.

If we just played normal, safe, ran our own offense like we did coming right out of the gate in the 1st quarter we could have extended our early 9 point lead.

There were a lot of early game Heat points that we gifted them...they didn't earn them.

They got confidence from those points and then we started to miss shots....the Heat's defensive energy picked up and our slump played right into the Heat's D.

 
Without a doubt.  Miami is completely a front-running team, led by the greatest front-runner in sports (James).  And they are certainly a team that loves to get out and run.  Turnovers are bad enough, but our tendency to go one-and-done piles on the pain.  And, let's face it, we were downright sloppy today.  Completely unfocused.  Scary for what should have been a game that featured two teams that have their eyes on the prize.
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: j804 on April 10, 2011, 07:20:44 PM
i just don't see how boston was beaten so badly on the boards by this heat team. just unreal

Jermaine Oneal and Kristic combine for 0 rebounds. That's a pretty good way of gettin that done
Pretty much only if we had someone like OKC got at the deadline in that guy Perkins
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: FLCeltsFan on April 10, 2011, 07:38:23 PM
Speaks volumes when Mike Bibby out rebounds 2 Celtics centers combined.   
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Tai on April 10, 2011, 08:09:21 PM
i just don't see how boston was beaten so badly on the boards by this heat team. just unreal

Jermaine Oneal and Kristic combine for 0 rebounds. That's a pretty good way of gettin that done

What i don't like is that they both combined for 28 minutes. So, if you include Murphy's garbage time minutes, we went a full 17 min without a 7 footer in the lineup? For what?
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: jaser on April 10, 2011, 08:37:01 PM
This unfortunate injury started it all...

(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k548/jasoncaser/8b8afcb9.jpg)
Title: Re: Celtics (55-24) at Heat (55-24) 4/10
Post by: Andrew on April 11, 2011, 03:46:39 AM
Let's go Heat  :P