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Title: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: FLCeltsFan on March 27, 2011, 11:33:09 PM
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Boston Celtics (51-21) at Indiana Pacers (32-42)
Monday, March 28
7:00 PM ET
Regular Season Game #73, Road Game #36
TV:  CSNNE, FSI, SNET1, NBA-LP 753/754
Radio:  WEEI, WFNI
Conseco Field House

(http://www.insidearenas.com/eastern/pictures/conseco2603.jpg)

Probable Starting Matchups
PointGuard
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3841.jpg)  vs  (http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/4626.jpg)
Delonte West  vs  Darren Collison   

Shooting Guard
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/images/basketball/nba/players/3080.jpg)  vs (http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/4725.jpg)
Ray Allen   vs  Paul George 

Small Forward
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/images/basketball/nba/players/3253.jpg)  vs  (http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3943.jpg)
Paul Pierce  vs  Danny Granger   

Power Forward
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/images/basketball/nba/players/3007.jpg)  vs  (http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/4618.jpg)
Kevin Garnett  vs  Tyler Hansbrough

Center
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3622.jpg)  vs  (http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/4479.jpg)
Nenad Krstic  vs  Roy Hibbert   

(http://www.insidearenas.com/eastern/pictures/conseco2604.jpg)

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Celtics Reserves 
Glen Davis
Jeff Green
Sasha Pavlovic
Avery Bradley
Carlos Arroyo

Injuries
Shaquille O'Neal (Achilles)  out
Jermaine O'Neal (knee) day to day
Troy Murphy (ankle) day to day
Von Wafer (calf)  day to day
Rajon Rondo (pinky) questionable

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Pacers Reserves
Brandon Rush
Solomon Jones
James Posey
Dahntay Jones
TJ Ford
Jeff Foster 
AJ Price
Lance Stephenson
Josh McRoberts

Injuries
Mike Dunleavy (thumb)  out 

Team Connections
Avery Bradley and T.J. Ford both attended the University of Texas
James Posey played for the Celtics during the 2007-08 season and was a member of the 2008 Championship team
A.J. Price and Rajon Rondo both attended the University of Kentucky
Brandon Rush and Paul Pierce both attended the University of Kansas
Shaquille O’Neal and James Posey were teammates in Miami from 2005-07
Jermaine O’Neal played for the Pacers from 2000-08
Pacers Assistant Coaches Walter McCarty (1997-2005) and Vitaly Potapenko (1998-2002) both played previously for the Celtics
Pacers coach Frank Vogel was an assistant coach under Jim O’Brien with the Celtics from 2001-04
Pacers President of Basketball Operations Larry Bird won three championships with the Celtics and had his #33 retired on 2/4/93

Game Notes
The Celtics continue their road trip with the Indiana Pacers.  This is the 4th and final meeting between these two teams.  The Celtics have won all 3 games so far.   In the last game, the starters started off slowly as has been their recent trend, scoring just 15 points in the first quarter.  The second unit, led by 19 from Jeff Green brought the team back.  The reserves finished the game for a 92-80 win while the starters finished on the bench. 

Indiana is in the 8th spot in the East, 3.5 games behind New York for the 7th seed and just one game in front of Charlotte for the 8th seed.  They are fighting to stay in contention for that 8th seed and so every game is important to them.  The Celtics should expect a strong effort from the Pacers and they will need to match that effort if they expect to get a win in this game. 

After Sunday's games, the Celtics are back to 2 games out of the 1st spot and only half a game in front of Miami for the second seed.   Chicago is playing at home against Philly on Monday and should win that game.  Miami is off and so if the Celtics win this one they will keep pace with the two teams.  If they lose they drop 3 games out of first and tied for the 2nd spot with Miami but the Celtics own the tie breaker. 

 Even though the Celtics got the win against the Wolves on Sunday,  it can't be much of an encouragement since they gave up a 25 point lead to one of the worst teams in the league that was playing without their best player and barely pulled out a 3 point win.  Hopefully they can use that win as a starting place and will finally have a game when they play well for 48 minutes.   

The Celtics are playing in another of the dreaded back to back games.  They are now 7-7 overall in the second game of back to backs and  2-3 in the second game when both games are on the road.  Both teams are 5-5 in their last 10 games.  The Celtics are 22-13 on the road and the Pacers are 19-16 at home.  The Pacers have lost their last 2 games.   

Jermaine O'Neal is supposed to be joining the Celtics in Indiana and stay with the team through the last 3 games of the road trip.  He isn't expected to play until at least Thursday, but his presence should give the team a much needed boost.   


Key Matchups
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/media/act_paul_pierce.jpg)vs(http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/media/act_danny_granger.jpg)
Paul Pierce vs Danny Granger
Danny Granger is a very good player but he has struggled against the Celtics in recent games.  Pierce usually plays well against Granger and scored 20 in the last game after putting up a triple double in the game before that.   

(http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/media/act_kevin_garnett.jpg)vs(http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/media/act_tyler_hansbrough.jpg)
Kevin Garnett vs Tyler Hansbrough
KG has to be frustrated with the play of the Celtics of late and he would be the one Celtic I can see taking the team to task and getting them back on track.  In the last game between these 2 teams, Hansbrough had a streak of five 20 point games broken as he struggled to score against KG throughout the game and finished with just 10 points on 4-13 shooting. 

Honorable Mention
Delonte West vs Darren Collison
Delonte played very well at the point and got the Celtics off to a good start against the Wolves.  He always brings energy and in spite of playing in pain, he will always go all out.  The Celtics need West to lead the offense and keep the ball moving and not allow the Celtics to lapse back into individual play. 

Keys to the Game
Defense -  I watched the end of the Bulls/Bucks game and realized how much the Celtics defense has slipped.  The Bulls simply shut the Bucks down at the end.  The Celtics must get back to playing team defense and being able to get stops down the stretch.   They must defend for 48 minutes instead of just in spurts. 

Rebound -  When the Celtics put out the effort needed to crash the boards, that effort transfers to the other areas of their game as well.  Winning the rebounding battle also prevents second chance points for the Pacers as well as limits fast break opportunities.   Indiana out rebounded the Celtics 49-36 in their last meeting.  Rebounding is effort and desire and the Celtics must show both to win the battle of the boards. 

Be Aggressive
- The Celtics have been playing very passively.  They must be more aggressive if they want to snap out of this slump.  They have to go after loose balls and rebounds. They also must be more aggressive on defense and they need to take the ball to the basket instead of settling for quick jumpers. 

Ubuntu - Doc called out the team for being selfish and being all about themselves instead of team.   The Celtics have to go back to what ubuntu means and play team ball once again.  They need to move the ball and make the extra pass and find the open man.  They have to play team defense and remember it's "we not me." 

X-Factors
Pride and Focus
The Celtics may not be worried about the top seed but  they need to get their focus back and play to win simply for Celtics Pride.  Their play of late has been anything but something to be proud of. 
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 27, 2011, 11:35:14 PM
TP FL.

Another grind-it-out kinda win? I hope not.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: lovely_20 on March 27, 2011, 11:43:18 PM
TP to FL for another job well done.  Let's hope for a runaway win.  ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Tai on March 28, 2011, 12:18:32 AM
Do those toasters really exist? Where you can put bread in, and it comes out toasted with your favorite team's logo?  :o
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 28, 2011, 12:23:09 AM
Do those toasters really exist? Where you can put bread in, and it comes out toasted with your favorite team's logo?  :o

Yup....you can buy one for $33.49. :)

Link (http://www.khcsports.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=17608)
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Tai on March 28, 2011, 12:29:26 AM
Man, if I lived in an apartment as opposed to a college dorm (and had a job...), I'd probably buy that right now haha.

Oh well, maybe someday..

Anyways, hopefully the Celtics take it to the Pacers like they did Wolves and not let up this time.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 01:15:45 AM
Second night of a back to back. Ugh. Hope the C's can rewrite history tommorow and win but Im not holding my breath. Dont expect any panic posts if they lose tommorow, ive already mentally prepared myself for the C's to get destroyed.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: j804 on March 28, 2011, 01:22:07 AM
Do those toasters really exist? Where you can put bread in, and it comes out toasted with your favorite team's logo?  :o
Yup FLCeltsFan has one if I'm not mistaken ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: FLCeltsFan on March 28, 2011, 10:26:05 AM
Official Report
Ed Malloy has officiated over 230+ regular season games. Controversy between Malloy and Doc Rivers goes way back. In 2003, when Doc was with Orlando, Malloy called a technical foul on Andrew DeClercq for staring. Doc called it one of the worst calls he ever saw (boy has he seen a lot worse since then!)and he said that he felt that Malloy had been intimidated all night. Fast forward to the Celtics game in Utah this season when Malloy, no longer intimidated, called 2 quick technicals on Doc and ejected him. Here is Doc's version of those calls.

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   “I just told Ed [Malloy], please keep officiating the game,” said Rivers. “That’s all I said. I thought the play before [the technical] was a clear travel in front of him. So I just said, ‘Hey Ed, it’d be nice if you’d keep officiating throughout.’ He gave me a tech. Then I said, ‘That’s the best call you’ve made all night.’ Usually, it’s nice to earn them, but [Monday's technicals were] another bad call.”

Malloy was also on the crew that officiated game 1 of the Miami series in last year's playoffs where 5 technicals were called and Kevin Garnett was ejected. Malloy was one of the officials in the Golden State game where the Warriors took 26 free throws to 11 for the Celtics (it was 28-6 before the intentional fouls at the end). But then in the game against Portland that Malloy officiated, the Celtics took 33 free throws to 13 for the Blazers so it evens out. The Celtics are 5-0 this season and 9-1 in their last 10 games with Malloy as an official. The Pacers are 3-7 in their last 10 games with Malloy. His home W/L record is 37-27.

Rodney Mott
Mott has been in the NBA for 12 years. In this time he has officiated over 540 regular season games and only one playoff game. He is from New Albany, IN so he probably grew up a Pacers fan. In 2007, Mott was suspended without pay for 3 games for making an obscene gesture and inappropriate comment toward a fan. Mott challenged the charges and said that they used him as a scapegoat to take attention away from other issues, but the suspension stood. The Celtics are 1-1 with Mott this season and 7-3 over their last 10. The Pacers are 5-5 with Mott this season. His home W/L record this season is 36-27.

Haywoode Workman
Workman is a former NBA player who crossed over to the dark side to become an NBA referee. He worked in the Pro Am League in California, the CBA and the NBDL, along with 2 seasons in the NBA pre-season before being hired in the 2008-09 season to work the regular season in the NBA. He was a point guard in the NBA and played 8 seasons for 5 different teams including playing 4 years for the Pacers (conflict of interest anyone?). The Celtics are 3-2 this season and 6-4 over the last 10 games with Workman. Workman also worked the Golden State game where the officiating was very one sided and the free throw discrepancy was 28-11 and he was also working that Portland game where the Celtics had 33 free throws to 13 for the Sixers. Indiana is 2-8 this season with Workman. He is definitely not a homer ref with a home W/L record of 24-29 this season.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on March 28, 2011, 10:29:30 AM
TP FLCeltsFan and thanks for post!

Keep it up, C's! Just keeping Psycho T in check should help a lot with this game tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Fafnir on March 28, 2011, 10:36:07 AM
Back to back on the road, hurray!  ::)

This game will likely be tough, and we need it.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ACF on March 28, 2011, 02:00:45 PM
TP. Go Celtics!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: LilRip on March 28, 2011, 02:44:26 PM
is Jermaine playing today? Wasnt' he supposed to make his reappearance against the Pacers?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 28, 2011, 02:54:01 PM
is Jermaine playing today? Wasnt' he supposed to make his reappearance against the Pacers?

I don't think he will play. I think what was reported was that he will join the team in Indy...so, he will be on the bench..but not dressed to play. At least he'll be able to practice with the team from now on...and hopefully come back soon.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ejk3489 on March 28, 2011, 03:10:28 PM
is Jermaine playing today? Wasnt' he supposed to make his reappearance against the Pacers?

I think the earliest he'll be back is the Spurs game:

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Danny Ainge joined The Big Show for his weekly interview and said that Jermaine O'Neal was getting closer to a return and coule be back on the court by next Thursday when the Celtics play the Spurs. Ainge was in Chicago to watch O'Neal work out and said that he looks better than he has all season. "The swelling issue that had prevented him from [playing] early in the year is not happening right now," Ainge said. "Since the surgery, it's been a lot better."

Ainge said that the plan was for O'Neal to join the C's in Indiana when they play the Pacers on Monday and then travel with them to San Antonio.

http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/2188866/ainge-j-oneal-could-be-back-next-week
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: xmuscularghandix on March 28, 2011, 03:24:55 PM
I expect Boston to get out to that same hot start, then have a let down once Arroyo and Pavlovic come in. But tonight i think the starters will keep their foot on the gas.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: FLCeltsFan on March 28, 2011, 04:04:48 PM
Am I the only one who is a bit peeved with Stern assigning Workman to ref this game? He played for the Pacers and was paid by them for 4 years.  Isn't that what's called a conflict of interest? 
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Yvette on March 28, 2011, 04:25:58 PM
Hey, those toasters are cool!... i may get one myself...
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 04:26:30 PM
back to back on the road=loss
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: hpantazo on March 28, 2011, 04:28:12 PM
the Glen Davis show rolls on tonight. The only question is how many shots will he miss tonight, 12? 14?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: bbd24 on March 28, 2011, 04:43:54 PM
the Glen Davis show rolls on tonight. The only question is how many shots will he miss tonight, 12? 14?

He's been the biggest key in the losses of late.  His shot just isn't dropping and the ball definitely doesn't move when its in his hands.  Rondo and him have been playing the same as of late.  No outside shot, and the ball is lingering in their hands.  Not good.

I'm going with 8 misses tonight.  Hopefully he tones the shot down a bit.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: kg is king on March 28, 2011, 05:09:30 PM
Rondo is questionable for tonight? I thought he's playing.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: P2 on March 28, 2011, 05:19:16 PM
Rondo is questionable for tonight? I thought he's playing.

Seriously, I hope he's not.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Tai on March 28, 2011, 06:20:01 PM
A. Sherrod Blakely tweets:

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#celtics D. Rivers said Rondo will not play tonight.

http://twitter.com/sherrodbcsn

I dunno whether to say hallelujah or not, but Rondo will be getting more rest. Good.

Also from Blakely:

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#Celtics JO said he can practice now w/o limitations. First time since he left the #Heat last year.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 06:27:46 PM
boston can't win when baby shoots 15 shots and 12 of the are 15 foot jumpers
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: clover on March 28, 2011, 06:50:35 PM
A. Sherrod Blakely tweets:

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#celtics D. Rivers said Rondo will not play tonight.

http://twitter.com/sherrodbcsn

I dunno whether to say hallelujah or not, but Rondo will be getting more rest. Good.

Also from Blakely:

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#Celtics JO said he can practice now w/o limitations. First time since he left the #Heat last year.


Two good notes. And after the San Antonio game I hope they sit Ray Allen or another of the old men for a couple of games.  We need fresh legs for the playoffs.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: lovely_20 on March 28, 2011, 06:59:08 PM
Am I the only one who is a bit peeved with Stern assigning Workman to ref this game? He played for the Pacers and was paid by them for 4 years.  Isn't that what's called a conflict of interest? 

No, you're not the only one, FL. That is the definition of conflict of interest, and it now has me very upset.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 07:03:03 PM
Nice toasters
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 07:07:56 PM
the Glen Davis show rolls on tonight. The only question is how many shots will he miss tonight, 12? 14?

on the contrary, I think he was the spark off the bench for some of the few wins the C's had lately.

Thinkink BBD is the main guilty party of the mess C's are is just not fair for a guy who had a terrific season so far.

Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: lovely_20 on March 28, 2011, 07:09:45 PM
I only wish the internet feed had the Comcast Sportsnet guys, not the Pacers'. Oh well.  :'(

And Rondo is starting...
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 28, 2011, 07:12:00 PM
Well, Rondo's in.  Thought he was definitely out. 

Hope the night off did him well.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: birdwatcher on March 28, 2011, 07:12:30 PM
this whole Rondo thing is pretty confusing...
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Neurotic Guy on March 28, 2011, 07:14:22 PM
O sharp early.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ejk3489 on March 28, 2011, 07:14:46 PM
Hmm well Rondo looks pretty decent to start the game...lol
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: birdwatcher on March 28, 2011, 07:15:26 PM
Hmm well Rondo looks pretty decent to start the game...lol
I guess doc's "attitude adjustment" worked...
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: lovely_20 on March 28, 2011, 07:15:58 PM
Well, Rondo's in.  Thought he was definitely out. 

Hope the night off did him well.

Apparently it did him worlds of good.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 07:16:05 PM
What the heck why is Rondo playing????

Ugh.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2011, 07:17:03 PM
Wow, I guess Rondo really needed the night off.  He looks fantastic.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: birdwatcher on March 28, 2011, 07:17:13 PM
What the heck why is Rondo playing????

Ugh.
He looks terrible so far  :P
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 28, 2011, 07:17:24 PM
What the heck why is Rondo playing????

Ugh.

He is playing well so far...4-4.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ejk3489 on March 28, 2011, 07:18:41 PM
What the heck why is Rondo playing????

Ugh.

Ugh I know right? Only has 10 points on 5/5 shooting.  :P
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Neurotic Guy on March 28, 2011, 07:19:36 PM
Rondo working on that shooting percentage.

He's got Rondo-legs tonight
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: hpantazo on March 28, 2011, 07:19:48 PM
I'm sorry, but Haywood Workman should not be allowed to ref pacers games. It's unethical.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 07:20:07 PM
Rondo needs the rest though, he should have sat a few more games.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2011, 07:20:51 PM
I'm sorry, but Haywood Workman should not be allowed to ref pacers games. It's unethical.

Disagree, so long as the league allows Tommy to ref Celtics games. ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: birdwatcher on March 28, 2011, 07:20:55 PM
I'm sorry, but Haywood Workman should not be allowed to ref pacers games. It's unethical.
cause he was a Pacer? He played for a bunch of other teams, too.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 28, 2011, 07:21:51 PM
Throw it down Captain!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: jaser on March 28, 2011, 07:22:07 PM
Rondo needs the rest though, he should have sat a few more games.

lol!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: birdwatcher on March 28, 2011, 07:22:14 PM
Pierce has had more athletic plays/dunks this season than I can remember, at least since his first few years.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 07:23:11 PM
Dont know who our point guard is but he looks like Derrick Rose out there right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ejk3489 on March 28, 2011, 07:23:43 PM
You know Rondo's on his game when he's making his free throws.

Dont know who our point guard is but he looks like Derrick Rose out there right now.

Looks like the same point guard that played for us in Novemer, December, and January.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ram on March 28, 2011, 07:23:47 PM
the league won't allow Tommy to ref but that never stops him
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: lovely_20 on March 28, 2011, 07:23:57 PM
What the heck why is Rondo playing????

Ugh.

Ugh I know right? Only has 10 points on 5/5 shooting.  :P

Lol.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Neurotic Guy on March 28, 2011, 07:25:50 PM
Dont know who our point guard is but he looks like Derrick Rose out there right now.

Not sure who that poster is -- is that Megatron with Rondo praise?  ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: hpantazo on March 28, 2011, 07:26:08 PM
I'm sorry, but Haywood Workman should not be allowed to ref pacers games. It's unethical.

Disagree, so long as the league allows Tommy to ref Celtics games. ;)

now that's a fair trade  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 07:26:42 PM
Black Hole Baby is in. Ugh.

Get ready for a ton of 15-18 foot bricks guys while Green is sitting in the post but wont get the ball.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 07:27:10 PM
i anticipate with davis in with this unit...the pacers will tie this game in no time off him shooting long jumpers
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: birdwatcher on March 28, 2011, 07:27:12 PM
Dont know who our point guard is but he looks like Derrick Rose out there right now.

Not sure who that poster is -- is that Megatron with Rondo praise?  ;)

From now on he'll be known as Optimism Prime.  :-\
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: lovely_20 on March 28, 2011, 07:28:04 PM
Black Hole Baby is in. Ugh.

Get ready for a ton of 15-18 foot bricks guys while Green is sitting in the post but wont get the ball.

Now that's the Megatron we know and love.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Spilling Green Dye on March 28, 2011, 07:29:18 PM
i anticipate with davis in with this unit...the pacers will tie this game in no time off him shooting long jumpers

I'm about to break out in rage watching matador davis defense and a brick jumper from him.  Murphy plays bad defense but is at least a better rebounder and shooter.

Ray, Green, and Krstic are all much better shooters, and Rondo is actually a better shooter too (40% vs 35%).  

Glad to see Rondo show up though.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 07:30:27 PM
Krstic might be the worst defensive big in the league. The guy is bad.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 07:30:38 PM
i anticipate with davis in with this unit...the pacers will tie this game in no time off him shooting long jumpers

I'm about to break out in rage watching matador davis defense and a brick jumper from him.  Murphy plays bad defense but is at least a better rebounder and shooter.

Ray, Green, and Krstic are all much better shooters, and Rondo is actually a better shooter too (40% vs 35%).  

Glad to see Rondo show up though.

it is so frustrating...this second unit plays no defense
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Spilling Green Dye on March 28, 2011, 07:30:50 PM
Wow Krstic is getting kind of screwed :(
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 07:31:37 PM
Wow Krstic is getting kind of screwed :(

yeah..they are calling everything on boston right now. just so uneven
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Spilling Green Dye on March 28, 2011, 07:31:43 PM
Great penetration & pass Green.  Would love to see others on the team do that too instead of settle for jumpers.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: letsgoblue86 on March 28, 2011, 07:32:07 PM
I can see the refs have already chosen the winner for this game.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 07:32:39 PM
somehow this team has to get green more involved
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Spilling Green Dye on March 28, 2011, 07:33:05 PM
Nice drive Davis.. keep going to the hoop.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 28, 2011, 07:33:35 PM
Wow Krstic is getting kind of screwed :(

Krstic's crap play over the last few games hasn't been helped by some lousy officiating.  He's the lowest status guy of the starters and I think the refs take it out on him a bit.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Spilling Green Dye on March 28, 2011, 07:33:56 PM
The Pacers are having trouble keeping every Celtic out of the middle.. I hope the C's keep attacking, good things will happen.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 07:36:15 PM
glen davis shoots way too much for my liking
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Spilling Green Dye on March 28, 2011, 07:37:25 PM
glen davis shoots way too much for my liking

They're rolling in right now, thankfully.  But when you're a 35% jump shooter you probably shouldn't be looking to shoot so much lol.  I do like it however when he attacks the basket under control.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 07:37:56 PM
blah...didnt like the way they closed that quarter
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: CelticSooner on March 28, 2011, 07:40:09 PM
The bench has very little cohesion due to one guy taking all the shots.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 07:41:36 PM
Oh boy what a pleasure to see the old Rondo back... seemed almost surreal to see him play so well on both ends in the 1st quarter, welcome back Rajon! (hopefully it lasts)
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 28, 2011, 07:43:56 PM
I'm beginning to despise BBD.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: jaser on March 28, 2011, 07:44:58 PM
OMG! These refs are something else!!  :-X
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: get_banners on March 28, 2011, 07:45:01 PM
baby is tied for the team lead in shot attempts right now. fantastic.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Spilling Green Dye on March 28, 2011, 07:45:23 PM
Krstic & Davis should not be playing together for defensive reasons.

Davis should not be playing for offensive reasons.

This lack of big-man depth is really hurting :(
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 28, 2011, 07:45:36 PM
The foul calls will most likely even out in the second half.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: IrishGreen on March 28, 2011, 07:46:08 PM
Will you please run plays for Green!!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 07:47:00 PM
Krstic...lol
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: hpantazo on March 28, 2011, 07:47:05 PM
The foul calls will most likely even out in the second half.

yea, right after they eject Doc
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: lovely_20 on March 28, 2011, 07:47:17 PM
OMG! These refs are something else!!  :-X

It seems they have swallowed their whistles.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: j804 on March 28, 2011, 07:47:25 PM
OK I have had it why in the hell is Nenad and Baby taking all our shots when Pierce and Green are on the floor?

This is on Doc and [dang] stupid excuse my language.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 07:47:37 PM
Why the hell we don't play Green?????
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 07:47:44 PM
I still dont get the Perk trade.

You traded Perk for a scrub center and a bench SF you dont use.

Weird.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 07:47:51 PM
I guess the concerns about the ref-who-is-a-former-Pacer were legitimate... ridiculous non calls. We need Rondo back in the game though!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: letsgoblue86 on March 28, 2011, 07:48:34 PM
I bet Tommy is losing it right now, but who wouldn't? This is despicable.  Two fouls in a row on Boston possessions and nothing.  Then Kristic gets whistled for 3 phantom calls.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 07:48:58 PM
I still dont get the Perk trade.

You traded Perk for a scrub center and a bench SF you dont use.

Weird.


I hate to do this but...TP.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 28, 2011, 07:50:48 PM
Ok so now Rondo can't miss, but everybody else is ice-cold. 
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Tai on March 28, 2011, 07:50:50 PM
Rondo got it going on!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: get_banners on March 28, 2011, 07:51:04 PM
wow...another AWFUL CALL
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 07:51:44 PM
C's legs are creaking..
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ejk3489 on March 28, 2011, 07:51:47 PM
...and a third foul on KG. Just what we needed!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Spilling Green Dye on March 28, 2011, 07:52:10 PM
Davis can't rotate out to the 3point line, I hope they put in someone else and go small ball.  At least then they can cover the 3point line.

Great shooting by Rondo.. 6 for 6!  His stroke is looking smoother =D
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: jaser on March 28, 2011, 07:52:19 PM
wow! that last call on KG is just..... :-X
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: letsgoblue86 on March 28, 2011, 07:52:51 PM
Refs suck...hard.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: get_banners on March 28, 2011, 07:52:56 PM
i'm sorry, that's a nonsensical call against KG. we got enough problems...we don't need horrible refereeing on top of it.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Celtics/Run on March 28, 2011, 07:53:04 PM
C's legs are creaking..

The whistles are blowing...
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Tenacious D on March 28, 2011, 07:54:43 PM
Just checkin' in and Im seeing 2 EVER-LOVIN' points in five minutes of 2Q play! What the!?!  I have been going to the mat for these guys but have got to say this this is really... SAD.  2 points? TWO POINTS!!!!  And NO LOOKS for Jeff Green in 9 minutes of play. What the!?!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: letsgoblue86 on March 28, 2011, 07:54:51 PM
Seriously the Pacers are a bunch of scrubs:
Dahntay Jones
AJ Price
Josh McRoberts
Jeff Foster

And they are absolutely man handling our bench.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 07:54:58 PM
Big Baby is the #1 option whenever he is on the floor, with the starters and with the bench.

Whens the last time a team won a championship when a bench player was the #1 option?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Green Hell on March 28, 2011, 07:55:21 PM
The problem on offense is that Baby isn't getting enough touches.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 07:56:31 PM
Green being ignored again.

Seriously a Rondo jumper? Get the ball to Green im starting to get upset with this team.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: j804 on March 28, 2011, 07:57:13 PM
Jeff Green is awful on defense, as much as I try warmig up to the trade I hate it more and more everyday.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 28, 2011, 07:57:33 PM
Love it when Rondo is running and playing like that.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 07:57:43 PM
Rondo takes a dumb jumpshot and then forgets to play D. Nice.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 07:58:35 PM
...but that was nice! Go RR!!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 07:58:42 PM
Rondo is just... wow, amazing.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: get_banners on March 28, 2011, 07:59:17 PM
i'm sorry, but if we have yet another game where baby takes more shots than ray, paul, KG, or green, he needs to be benched.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2011, 07:59:40 PM
It's time for somebody to show up outside of Rondo and Pierce.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ram on March 28, 2011, 07:59:49 PM
only 3 fouls on the Pacers?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: jaser on March 28, 2011, 08:00:18 PM
I MISS PERK...  :(
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: hpantazo on March 28, 2011, 08:00:39 PM
It's time for somebody to show up outside of Rondo and Pierce.

KG is trying but the refs have put him out of the game so far.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: get_banners on March 28, 2011, 08:00:46 PM
only 3 fouls on the Pacers?
they don't commit fouls.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 08:00:49 PM
Pacers are a very good team, the game was bound to be a struggle, we just cant seem to ever win on the second night of back to backs for some reason. Refs arent helping either.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 28, 2011, 08:02:00 PM
i'm sorry, but if we have yet another game where baby takes more shots than ray, paul, KG, or green, he needs to be benched.

For who exactly?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: jaser on March 28, 2011, 08:02:20 PM
about time they called a foul on the pacers!!  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: letsgoblue86 on March 28, 2011, 08:02:46 PM
OMG! A foul!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: get_banners on March 28, 2011, 08:03:09 PM
this game has gone badly for 2 reasons: bad refereeing and yet another insane game on offense where baby has taken more shots than ray, paul, KG, and green.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 08:03:15 PM
This is the Rondo I like to see...
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: letsgoblue86 on March 28, 2011, 08:05:57 PM
It's easy to go 9-10 when the refs give the Celtics only two bigs 3 fouls each in the first half.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 08:06:01 PM
Rondo with 18 first half points? Wow...

Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 08:06:15 PM
Is it possible that we can hire somebody to put something in Baby's food that will cause him to be too weak to play for the next oh . . . 3 months?

Nothing that will actually harm his health, mind you, but something that will prevent him from actually stepping foot on the court.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: lovely_20 on March 28, 2011, 08:06:19 PM
OMG! A foul!

And an offensive no less!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ejk3489 on March 28, 2011, 08:06:48 PM
Ugh Baby...
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: get_banners on March 28, 2011, 08:07:14 PM
good god, baby...
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 08:07:37 PM
It's easy to go 9-10 when the refs give the Celtics only two bigs 3 fouls each in the first half.

Yeah the refs suck...hopefully it evens up next half. But its not an excuse. We still need to win this game despite the refs.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 08:07:50 PM
And the second night of back to back curse continues.

Dang.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: CelticSooner on March 28, 2011, 08:07:50 PM
C's usually lose when Rondo is the leading scorer. Keep that in mind.

Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 28, 2011, 08:07:52 PM
Awfully random bone to toss our way refs.

EDIT: Bone gone.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 08:08:18 PM
What a disaster..
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 08:08:49 PM
And the second night of back to back curse continues.

Dang.

On the other hand, it doesn't really matter at this point.  We're not catching the Bulls.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 08:09:20 PM
Now that Rondo is back to his former self, Big Baby has fully embraced the role of the frustrating player that makes you yell at him all the time.

Hopefully we stay out of foul trouble in the 2nd half (KG mainly) and get back into this one. I like our chances provided someone on our team helps Rondo.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Adelaide Celt on March 28, 2011, 08:09:33 PM
1 shot each for Garnett and Allen that half...
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 08:09:55 PM
And the second night of back to back curse continues.

Dang.

On the other hand, it doesn't really matter at this point.  We're not catching the Bulls.

So why are we watching this?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 28, 2011, 08:10:08 PM
Can't wait til Davis leaves as a FA this summer.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: get_banners on March 28, 2011, 08:10:17 PM
1 shot each for Garnett and Allen that half...
neither of them are comparable to the offensive machine that is big baby
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: letsgoblue86 on March 28, 2011, 08:10:31 PM
I can't watch this garbage, no offense, no defense, and no calls.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: letsgoblue86 on March 28, 2011, 08:10:55 PM
Can't wait til Davis leaves as a FA this summer.
Haha, TP
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 08:11:13 PM
C's usually lose when Rondo is the leading scorer. Keep that in mind.



Exactly he only takes over offensively when the rest of his team are ice cold which happens to be the cast tonight.

Ray, KG and everyone else have pretty much been non-factors.

We have a sub .500 record when Rondo is the leading scorer and a sub .500 record on the second night of a back to back.

Not good.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Green Hell on March 28, 2011, 08:11:26 PM
And the second night of back to back curse continues.

Dang.

On the other hand, it doesn't really matter at this point.  We're not catching the Bulls.

We aren't catching the Lakers either so what does that say about our banner aspirations?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 08:11:55 PM
Geez, what's up with all the optimism?

There are 48 minutes in a game and we're only down 8, chill out guys, we've got this one.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 08:12:12 PM
1 shot each for Garnett and Allen that half...

I dont understand these types of things I really dont.

KG and Allen arent demanding the ball or trying to be a part of the offense, thats what happens when your coasting.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Errn on March 28, 2011, 08:12:35 PM
Jeff Green is awful on defense, as much as I try warmig up to the trade I hate it more and more everyday.

He simply doesn't use his hands to get in the face of his opponent. There was an inside pass that was made earlier that could have been prevented by simply PRESSURING the man in the post.

This makes it that much easier for shooters to shoot up over him. He doesn't put his body up against them. And he doesn't use his arms or hands nearly enough.

I thought this guy was supposed to be lightning quick? I guess that's only when he decides to go up for a dunk.

He's like a weak version of Derek Rose.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: CelticSooner on March 28, 2011, 08:12:35 PM
Looks like Doc is sticking with the 8 man rotation tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 08:12:44 PM
And the second night of back to back curse continues.

Dang.

On the other hand, it doesn't really matter at this point.  We're not catching the Bulls.

We aren't catching the Lakers either so what does that say about our banner aspirations?

Playing this bad, these are banned aspirations.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PseudoElite on March 28, 2011, 08:12:56 PM
Indiana scored 30 pts in the 2nd Q, and 27 in the 1st.

REALLY?

The offensive droughts are nothing new for the Celtics but letting Indiana score that much is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 08:13:11 PM
Well...not much has changed. This team is still bad but on the bright side it looks like Rondo has come out of his slump for at least this game.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: radiohead on March 28, 2011, 08:13:24 PM
yet another double digit lead lost. was that an 18 point turn around? good thing this meltdown happened in the 1st half. we need kg and ray to step up on their scoring. ray needs to get some looks!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: aporel#18 on March 28, 2011, 08:13:49 PM
Geez, what's up with all the optimism?

There are 48 minutes in a game and we're only down 8, chill out guys, we've got this one.

TP, Drucci. They can't play that bad for the whole game. 8 points isn't something they can't overcome.

Go Celtics!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: jaser on March 28, 2011, 08:13:58 PM
haha! i'm gonna call it first....

If we end up losing this game, IT IS RONDO's FAULT!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: The DarkPassenger on March 28, 2011, 08:14:33 PM
BBD would be a perfect player to promote Advil cause he just gives us all headaches.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Green Hell on March 28, 2011, 08:14:48 PM
1 shot each for Garnett and Allen that half...

I dont understand these types of things I really dont.

KG and Allen arent demanding the ball or trying to be a part of the offense, thats what happens when your coasting.

No. Don't lump KG into all of this. KG has been our most consistent player all year long and the only reason he got taken out of the game is because of foul trouble. Ray Allen is really the guy who disappears from the offense, especially when its in the clutch.

You think Ray might save some 3s for the Finals this year or we'll he be a non-factor down the stretch like always?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: get_banners on March 28, 2011, 08:14:59 PM
Indiana scored 30 pts in the 2nd Q, and 27 in the 1st.

REALLY?

The offensive droughts are nothing new for the Celtics but letting Indiana score that much is ridiculous.
that's largely due to the refs taking KG out of the game. kristic has 3 fouls, KG has 3 fouls. many of the calls were ridiculous.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: get_banners on March 28, 2011, 08:16:12 PM
re: ray only taking 1 shot....remember, when the ball doesn't move, ray doesn't get shots. and...yeah, that's a major consequence of the refs taking KG out of the game, and baby not seeing a shot he doesn't like.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Spicoli on March 28, 2011, 08:17:23 PM
Okay, either Jeff isn't demanding the ball out there, or they're simply not looking his way. It was about 6 straight minutes where the guys didn't even pass the ball to Jeff lol.

Oh, and BBD is a blackhole.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Casperian on March 28, 2011, 08:17:31 PM
this game has gone badly for 2 reasons: bad refereeing and yet another insane game on offense where baby has taken more shots than ray, paul, KG, and green.

Baby played as many minutes as KG and Ray combined, took 6 shots (same number as Pierce) and shoots 50%.

However, he´s playing pretty bad, at the moment. He´s slow and makes a lot of bad decisions.

It´s not pretty.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 08:18:23 PM
Geez, what's up with all the optimism?

There are 48 minutes in a game and we're only down 8, chill out guys, we've got this one.

Sure.

To be optimistic, you should've slept for the hole last month and not watched a single C's game since all star break.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Prof. Clutch on March 28, 2011, 08:18:30 PM
You know that sick feeling you get in the pit of your stomach when you turn on a Celtics game a little ways into it, and the first thing you discover is that Donny is announcing that nights game?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: lovely_20 on March 28, 2011, 08:19:31 PM
Geez, what's up with all the optimism?

There are 48 minutes in a game and we're only down 8, chill out guys, we've got this one.

TP, Drucci. They can't play that bad for the whole game. 8 points isn't something they can't overcome.

Go Celtics!!!

Amen!! TP for you Drucci. And for you as well, aporel#18! We need more optimistic folks in here.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 08:20:26 PM
I just watched the Globe 10.0 with Shaugnessy about whether the Celtics can turn it on again this season . . .

He thought they could last year, and he says he really doesn't think so this year.  Part of that is probably just because Dan Shaugnessy always says whatever runs counter to the popular opinion.  I have to agree with him, though.  I just don't feel confident in this team. 

Last year it seemed like they had all the pieces they needed to play championship basketball but they weren't doing it for whatever reason.  Right now it feels like they may be a few pieces short - and I'm not convinced Shaq and JO will be able to come back and be those missing pieces.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Cman on March 28, 2011, 08:20:29 PM
I know others have said this, but I'm on board now.  BBD is gone this summer, he's walking as a FA.  Right now his presence is basically hindering Jeff Green's development as a 6th man on our team.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 08:21:02 PM
Geez, what's up with all the optimism?

There are 48 minutes in a game and we're only down 8, chill out guys, we've got this one.

Sure.

To be optimistic, you should've slept for the hole last month and not watched a single C's game since all star break.

What's the correlation between the past games and this one? Should I assume we're going to lose this game because we've been in a slump for weeks? We've got to get out of it at some point and Rondo definitely looks like he has got out of his own slump so far.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: hopebasement on March 28, 2011, 08:22:48 PM
I know others have said this, but I'm on board now.  BBD is gone this summer, he's walking as a FA.  Right now his presence is basically hindering Jeff Green's development as a 6th man on our team.

I hear what you're saying here, but it's hard for me to discount everything BBD has done for our team.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Errn on March 28, 2011, 08:23:02 PM
Well...not much has changed. This team is still bad but on the bright side it looks like Rondo has come out of his slump for at least this game.

Rondo has been pretty good in most of our wins during the slump. Defense and playing tough is Rondo's game. Running the offense is, too, but as the Minnesota game showed, the problem isn't Rondo. Based on what we've seen this season, he's still the best weapon we have.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Juneauz on March 28, 2011, 08:23:38 PM
seriously... how good is rondo when he plays like that?
I mean... wow
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: hpantazo on March 28, 2011, 08:24:40 PM
Geez, what's up with all the optimism?

There are 48 minutes in a game and we're only down 8, chill out guys, we've got this one.

Sure.

To be optimistic, you should've slept for the hole last month and not watched a single C's game since all star break.

What's the correlation between the past games and this one? Should I assume we're going to lose this game because we've been in a slump for weeks? We've got to get out of it at some point and Rondo definitely looks like he has got out of his own slump so far.

well, normally the 2nd night of a back to back is a guaranteed loss that trumps everything, but I think we will win this one tonight
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 08:25:01 PM
Same slop different night.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 08:25:40 PM
Geez, what's up with all the optimism?

There are 48 minutes in a game and we're only down 8, chill out guys, we've got this one.

Sure.

To be optimistic, you should've slept for the hole last month and not watched a single C's game since all star break.

What's the correlation between the past games and this one? Should I assume we're going to lose this game because we've been in a slump for weeks? We've got to get out of it at some point and Rondo definitely looks like he has got out of his own slump so far.

It doesn't really look to me tonight is gonna be the night we're all waiting for, that's all.
It doesn't really look the slump is over.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 08:25:59 PM
Geez, what's up with all the optimism?

There are 48 minutes in a game and we're only down 8, chill out guys, we've got this one.

Sure.

To be optimistic, you should've slept for the hole last month and not watched a single C's game since all star break.

What's the correlation between the past games and this one? Should I assume we're going to lose this game because we've been in a slump for weeks? We've got to get out of it at some point and Rondo definitely looks like he has got out of his own slump so far.

well, normally the 2nd night of a back to back is a guaranteed loss that trumps everything, but I think we will win this one tonight

Yeah I'm not usually confident about back to back either but I like our chances in this one. Of course if we were down by 20 points it would be a different story but it's just an 8 point game with things going in the worse possible way for us so far.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Tenacious D on March 28, 2011, 08:26:44 PM
Ray Allen is really the guy who disappears from the offense, especially when its in the clutch.

Ray Allen has also logged more minutes than anyone this season, except maybe Rondo. Think that might enter into it?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 08:27:03 PM
History tells us this game is over. Another sorry loss to a sorry team
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 08:27:34 PM
Man, bench Krstic for the rest of the season. he's a joke.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: lovely_20 on March 28, 2011, 08:27:52 PM
I hope Doc was tough on them in the locker room.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: hopebasement on March 28, 2011, 08:28:42 PM
Now that's the type of play Davis needs to be running. He needs to stop chucking trash jumpers and hit the paint hard, his size makes him nearly unstoppable when getting aggressive like that.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Spilling Green Dye on March 28, 2011, 08:28:57 PM
I'm just so happy that Rondo appears to be back!

Pierce, take it to the hole please.. no pick and role to Davis.. that's what Indiana wants lol.

RAAAAAYYY!!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 08:28:59 PM
Go BBD!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Cman on March 28, 2011, 08:29:20 PM
I know others have said this, but I'm on board now.  BBD is gone this summer, he's walking as a FA.  Right now his presence is basically hindering Jeff Green's development as a 6th man on our team.

I hear what you're saying here, but it's hard for me to discount everything BBD has done for our team.

Welcome to CB!
Have a TP!
 ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 28, 2011, 08:29:31 PM
History tells us this game is over.

As many times as you've predicted a loss and been wrong, you're still gonna say this?

Nice energy to start the half.  We still have every opportunity to win this one.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 08:29:47 PM
Nice move from Ray.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: lovely_20 on March 28, 2011, 08:29:57 PM
3-point play for Sugah Ray!!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: hopebasement on March 28, 2011, 08:30:18 PM
I know others have said this, but I'm on board now.  BBD is gone this summer, he's walking as a FA.  Right now his presence is basically hindering Jeff Green's development as a 6th man on our team.

I hear what you're saying here, but it's hard for me to discount everything BBD has done for our team.

Welcome to CB!
Have a TP!
 ;)

Thank you much! Long time fan and lurker - first time poster!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Cman on March 28, 2011, 08:30:30 PM
Nice move from Ray.

Followed up by a nice move from Granger
 >:(

(every time I see that guy play, I think about how Indy picked before us in that draft -- at the time I was ecstatic they passed on Green so the Cs could draft him, in retrospect I wish they had taken Green so the Cs could take Granger).
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 28, 2011, 08:31:16 PM
Two stinker plays for Baby there.  Never save under their basket!!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 08:31:32 PM
Nice move from Ray.

Followed up by a nice move from Granger
 >:(


Story of our life lately...
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2011, 08:32:08 PM
Nice dunk by Baby!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 08:32:19 PM
When did BBD get so bad??? I don't remember him ever playing so badly. SMH.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 28, 2011, 08:32:19 PM
Two stinker plays for Baby there.  Never save under their basket!!

Ok Baby...but you still owe us one more.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 08:32:23 PM
The refs are blatantly protecting Hibbert on defense, he should have picked at least 2 fouls in the past 3 minute. Frustrating.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: hopebasement on March 28, 2011, 08:32:28 PM
What an unbelievable post move by BBD  :o
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 08:33:04 PM
Wow Baby :o
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: apc on March 28, 2011, 08:33:44 PM
i am not watching the game, can someone explain to me how come we are shooting 60% from the field and losing?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 28, 2011, 08:34:05 PM
The refs are blatantly protecting Hibbert on defense, he should have picked at least 2 fouls in the past 3 minute. Frustrating.

Yeah...the refs suck...they can put a Dyson vacuum to shame.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 28, 2011, 08:34:18 PM
Brilliant pass by Rondo - he faked the Pacers into covering Ray.  Unfortunately KG wasn't expecting that either, but he got the finish anyway.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Spilling Green Dye on March 28, 2011, 08:34:27 PM
woah woah woah.. Davis, you can do that?!  Where has that been?!

Considering he's a good FT shooter for a big man, that's just more reason to play closer to the hoop.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Cman on March 28, 2011, 08:34:30 PM
Now's the time to turn on some defensive intensity, and get moving on some hustle plays.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 08:35:01 PM
This team is SO BAD at rebounding!

The rebound goes right into their hands and they still cant hang on to it!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 08:35:06 PM
Rondo to KG...NICE!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: jaser on March 28, 2011, 08:35:33 PM
Did y'all see that Rondo pass??? Glad he's back!!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 08:35:51 PM
Ugh...it seems like every loose ball under their basket goes their way...
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 08:36:39 PM
We're getting everybody involved in the offense, now it's just time to get the defensive boards and loose balls.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 08:36:59 PM
i am not watching the game, can someone explain to me how come we are shooting 60% from the field and losing?

Pacers have hit ton of bail out shots, foul trouble killing chemistr, celtics cant rebound to save their life, ball has gone right through their hands 4 times so far and the pacers have scored. Also, stupid turnovers.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: aporel#18 on March 28, 2011, 08:37:00 PM
the Pacers are settling for jumpers... recipe for disaster. Let's go Celtics!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Cman on March 28, 2011, 08:37:08 PM
Update: Chicago 13 Pilly 27, end of 1st qtr.
:)
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ejk3489 on March 28, 2011, 08:37:31 PM
Bulls are down 13 to 27 to the 76ers after one quarter. That team scares me.

Lets just hope we don't slip down to the third seed or that would be one brutal first round.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 08:38:10 PM
Update: Chicago 13 Pilly 27, end of 1st qtr.
:)

A Chicago loss means nothing if we lose too.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 08:38:41 PM
i am not watching the game, can someone explain to me how come we are shooting 60% from the field and losing?

Because no D was played and because Krstic was on the floor.

Now it's a little bit better.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 28, 2011, 08:39:45 PM
Oh boy...another hit to KG's head.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 08:39:48 PM
Bulls are down 13 to 27 to the 76ers after one quarter. That team scares me.

Lets just hope we don't slip down to the third seed or that would be one brutal firt round.

Philly scares me as well...whoever faces them in the first round...its gonna be brutal. An upset is very possible for whoever they face.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 08:40:37 PM
Looks like a flagrant foul to me, he pushed KG in the back too.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: aporel#18 on March 28, 2011, 08:41:12 PM
hansbrough is a scrub  >:(

wish Luke was still a Celtic to school him like he did in College
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: jaser on March 28, 2011, 08:41:25 PM
Ugh...it seems like every loose ball under their basket goes their way...

I was gonna say that!! They're fighting though!

Gooo Celtics!!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 28, 2011, 08:41:43 PM
KG is starting to work on Hansbrough now.  Should be fun to keep an eye on.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 08:42:33 PM
KG is starting to work on Hansbrough now.  Should be fun to keep an eye on.

I guess you typed this before the foul lol
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Tenacious D on March 28, 2011, 08:42:52 PM
Update: Chicago 13 Pilly 27, end of 1st qtr.
:)

They're doomed! They'll never get out of the first round! (lol).
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 08:43:02 PM
these refs are unacceptable
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 28, 2011, 08:43:23 PM
KG is starting to work on Hansbrough now.  Should be fun to keep an eye on.

I guess you typed this before the foul lol

Nah, but I didn't realize he went out.  I mostly meant down the stretch though.

Captain!!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: lovely_20 on March 28, 2011, 08:43:28 PM
It appears that the calls are starting to balance out.  :o
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 08:43:52 PM
Jesus for the lead...
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: jaser on March 28, 2011, 08:44:18 PM
Dumb referees!! No flagrant on Hanbrough, and then the weak a$$ call on KG on the other end. Smh. Smh.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 28, 2011, 08:44:35 PM
Pretty nice screen from Green on the Pierce drive there.  Hope he's picking that up from KG.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: hpantazo on March 28, 2011, 08:44:42 PM
The celtics are running and going to the hoop hard!! I love it!!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Spilling Green Dye on March 28, 2011, 08:44:50 PM
Rondoooo!!

That foul on KG was utter BS.  
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 08:45:09 PM
Nice move by Rajon!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 08:45:35 PM
Well I guess the optimistic posters of this thread were right to feel good about this one, uh? ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Cman on March 28, 2011, 08:47:13 PM
Well I guess the optimistic posters of this thread were right to feel good about this one, uh? ;D

hey! did you just jinx us???
;)
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: lovely_20 on March 28, 2011, 08:47:17 PM
Well I guess the optimistic posters of this thread were right to feel good about this one, uh? ;D

Oh yeah!!  8)
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Green Hell on March 28, 2011, 08:47:27 PM
Drive the ball, win the game!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: IrishGreen on March 28, 2011, 08:47:49 PM
Thats the first time he;s tried that ball fake in a long time. His offensive awareness is alot better in my opinion.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 08:48:02 PM
Well I guess the optimistic posters of this thread were right to feel good about this one, uh? ;D

The game is 48 minutes not 30 butttt the men in green are showing some signs of life. I hope they can keep it going.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GDAbraham on March 28, 2011, 08:48:39 PM
Philly/Chi: Sixers 41 and Bulls 25.

No matter what happens I'm just glad to see the real Rondo.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Errn on March 28, 2011, 08:49:31 PM
Hey Jeff Green fans. Did you see how Jeff Green let his man go in and score on that play? He doesn't know how to play defense. We don't need no scrub who can't play D.

The Celtics good offense in these games has been a full court offense. We need excellent defense to lead to quality transition plays. We need to force turnovers and bad shots.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Cman on March 28, 2011, 08:50:17 PM
Did Rondo work on his shooting on his day off?
 :)
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ejk3489 on March 28, 2011, 08:50:31 PM
Rondo 4/4 from the line, 8/10 from the field, with 7 assists and no turnovers.

Definitely his most complete game in awhile, good to see.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 08:50:36 PM
Rondo hitting both free throws? Feels like the twilight zone.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 08:50:40 PM
Rondos slump had to be all mental. He played like garbage then playslike a god within the span of 3 days.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Errn on March 28, 2011, 08:51:38 PM
He just let his man (a relatively slow man, by the way) catch and run across the lane. No vision.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: lovely_20 on March 28, 2011, 08:52:23 PM
Did Rondo work on his shooting on his day off?
 :)

Ray-Ray must've held a clinic for him.  ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: get_banners on March 28, 2011, 08:52:33 PM
Rondos slump had to be all mental. He played like garbage then playslike a god within the span of 3 days.
he really needed a day off.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 08:52:37 PM
Great BBD quarter!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2011, 08:52:42 PM
Well I guess the optimistic posters of this thread were right to feel good about this one, uh? ;D

I don't know, Krstic just came into the game.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: get_banners on March 28, 2011, 08:53:16 PM
btw...philly is BALLING vs. chicago.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 08:55:21 PM
Krstic gets no love from the refs. :-X
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ejk3489 on March 28, 2011, 08:55:31 PM
Krstic...no words.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: jaser on March 28, 2011, 08:55:39 PM
These refs.....
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 28, 2011, 08:55:52 PM
Legit foul on Nenad....but for christ sake call the legit ones against us too.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 08:56:19 PM
Well I guess the optimistic posters of this thread were right to feel good about this one, uh? ;D

I don't know, Krstic just came into the game.

Yeah I don't know what's more frustrating, Krstic waiting 3 seconds to get his shot blocked and piling up fouls or Baby refusing to make a single pass and hogging the ball.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 28, 2011, 08:56:23 PM
I was about ready to complain about that call, but then I saw the replay and MAN what a dumb play by Krstic.  Jekyll and Hyde with that guy.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 08:56:42 PM
I don't want to see these refs in the playoffs. This is CRAZY.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 08:56:44 PM
btw...philly is BALLING vs. chicago.

Shhh, don't jinx them!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 28, 2011, 08:56:48 PM
Hahaha Josh McRoberts is terrible.

EDIT: I guess that was karma.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: aporel#18 on March 28, 2011, 08:57:03 PM
The refs have something against Nenad... wow
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: DinTN on March 28, 2011, 08:57:32 PM
btw...philly is BALLING vs. chicago.

Shhh, don't jinx them!
Let's get this one & see if Philly can hang on. Would love to pick up a game on Chicago tonight!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: get_banners on March 28, 2011, 08:58:09 PM
yeah, kristic is getting fouled, but getting no calls whatsoever.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 08:58:17 PM
Two weird inbounding passes in a row from each team. :o
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: hpantazo on March 28, 2011, 08:59:15 PM
I thought Pierce got no respect from the refs until I saw what they do to Kristic, wow.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 28, 2011, 08:59:57 PM
yeah, kristic is getting fouled, but getting no calls whatsoever.

He's had some bad no-calls when he's been fouled, but he blatantly held Foster on that FT.  Just a dumb foul.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 09:00:38 PM
Well I guess the optimistic posters of this thread were right to feel good about this one, uh? ;D

I don't know, Krstic just came into the game.

Yeah I don't know what's more frustrating, Krstic waiting 3 seconds to get his shot blocked and piling up fouls or Baby refusing to make a single pass and hogging the ball.

I really don't get all this hate for BBD on this forum.
He made some big plays, shots and rebounds that helped C's switching the game. Comparing him to Krstic is foolish to me
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: jdz101 on March 28, 2011, 09:00:44 PM
That no call and then the foul on Krstic was a pile of rubbish. Those refs should be ashamed of themselves.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Rondo9dunx on March 28, 2011, 09:00:52 PM
watchin updates on nba.com at work, makin a comeback baby!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 09:01:05 PM
yeah, kristic is getting fouled, but getting no calls whatsoever.

He's had some bad no-calls when he's been fouled, but he blatantly held Foster on that FT.  Just a dumb foul.

Foster was lucky no chair was within reach though. :P
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: IrishGreen on March 28, 2011, 09:01:45 PM
I reckon Krstic realises how bad is hair actually is and wants to foul out so no one has to look at him!

Thank you Nenad.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Casperian on March 28, 2011, 09:01:47 PM
Great BBD quarter!

Yepp
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 09:01:56 PM
Well I guess the optimistic posters of this thread were right to feel good about this one, uh? ;D

I don't know, Krstic just came into the game.

Yeah I don't know what's more frustrating, Krstic waiting 3 seconds to get his shot blocked and piling up fouls or Baby refusing to make a single pass and hogging the ball.

I really don't get all this hate for BBD on this forum.
He made some big plays, shots and rebounds that helped C's switching the game. Comparing him to Krstic is foolish to me

He's been good in this game for the most part but he is a black hole on offense and it's frustrating to watch him take so many shots while his teammates could get better looks.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 28, 2011, 09:04:09 PM
Green taking a little contact...get some points and get in the bonus early.  Like it.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 09:04:43 PM
I reckon Krstic realises how bad is hair actually is and wants to foul out so no one has to look at him!

Thank you Nenad.

lol! TP!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 09:04:57 PM
The Rondo/Green connection is unstoppable so far... I like that.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Casperian on March 28, 2011, 09:04:59 PM
Well I guess the optimistic posters of this thread were right to feel good about this one, uh? ;D

I don't know, Krstic just came into the game.

Yeah I don't know what's more frustrating, Krstic waiting 3 seconds to get his shot blocked and piling up fouls or Baby refusing to make a single pass and hogging the ball.



I really don't get all this hate for BBD on this forum.
He made some big plays, shots and rebounds that helped C's switching the game. Comparing him to Krstic is foolish to me

He's been good in this game for the most part but he is a black hole on offense and it's frustrating to watch him take so many shots while his teammates could get better looks.

What better shots? He´s 6-9
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Surferdad on March 28, 2011, 09:05:19 PM
That's a porous defense to let Dahntay Jones turn in a highlight reel.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 28, 2011, 09:05:44 PM
Glen Davis  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 09:05:50 PM
Green keeping us alive at the line lol
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 28, 2011, 09:06:55 PM
Jeff Foster looking sharp...where do you think he tans?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: blink on March 28, 2011, 09:07:28 PM
anyone have a working link?  mine just went down...
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 09:07:31 PM
Here we go again...
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: IrishGreen on March 28, 2011, 09:07:38 PM
You could make a highlight reel of Big Baby's fails..

Hilarious stuff.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 09:08:09 PM
4th quarter...going to be hard to pull this one out, both KG and Ray have been non factors, and Rondo stopped attacking. I wont be surprised if we fail to score 100.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 09:08:11 PM
It's nice to draw fouls but we have to make shots too! And get some stops.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: IrishGreen on March 28, 2011, 09:09:32 PM
4th quarter...going to be hard to pull this one out, both KG and Ray have been non factors, and Rondo stopped attacking. I wont be surprised if we fail to score 100.

He just drove to the basket 3 times passed off to Green who got fouled on each occasion..
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 09:10:02 PM
anyone have a working link?  mine just went down...


http://****ss.com/channel2.html

Lol beat me to it.

 ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Errn on March 28, 2011, 09:10:20 PM
We got lucky on the turnover there.

Green took the same man that KG had when he should have kept the backdoor sealed.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ejk3489 on March 28, 2011, 09:11:39 PM
Nice move by Ray/Dwest...and Green just now
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Errn on March 28, 2011, 09:13:05 PM
Green again. Letting his man get to the rim. Can this guy even play the 3, let alone the 4?

Nice floater from Green though.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: blink on March 28, 2011, 09:13:28 PM
thanks a lot!

anyone have a working link?  mine just went down...


http://****ss.com/channel2.html
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 09:14:21 PM
Great drive by Ray!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 28, 2011, 09:14:22 PM
March 9th, 2011
19 days
10 games

Anyone know what all these things correlate too? TP if you guess it.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 09:14:48 PM
thanks a lot!

anyone have a working link?  mine just went down...


http://****ss.com/channel2.html

Anytime.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ballin on March 28, 2011, 09:15:18 PM
anyone have a working link?  mine just went down...


http://****ss.com/channel2.html

Lol beat me to it.

 ;)

Nice. I used ****.net until apparently the department of homeland security seized the domain lol.


edit: why is "a" "t" "d" "h" "e" filtered??? weird
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 09:16:09 PM
March 9th, 2011
19 days
10 games

Anyone know what all these things correlate too? TP if you guess it.

Number of days from 9 March 9th till the O'Neal Brothers come back and the number of games they will play before the playoffs?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: IrishGreen on March 28, 2011, 09:16:22 PM
March 9th, 2011
19 days
10 games

Anyone know what all these things correlate too? TP if you guess it.

A shed load of injections for Shaq's foot.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 09:16:52 PM
anyone have a working link?  mine just went down...


http://****ss.com/channel2.html

Lol beat me to it.

 ;)

Nice. I used ****.net until apparently the department of homeland security seized the domain lol.



Its still up. Replace .net with .me

I don't like the quality of their feeds though. They usually suck.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: radiohead on March 28, 2011, 09:17:18 PM
bulls are down big to philly at the moment. we NEED to get this game guys! go C's!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2011, 09:17:22 PM
Come on, guys.  No sharing streaming links, please.  That's been the rule for about three years now.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: hpantazo on March 28, 2011, 09:18:01 PM
that was great, we just threw the game away in 1 minute
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 09:18:14 PM
Impossible to win back-to-back games.

Also, what happened to Rondo? Hes played like the bad Rondo for the entire quarter.

Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 28, 2011, 09:18:17 PM
This is worse than last year....because there is so much more talent on the this [dang] squad.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 09:18:30 PM
Our defense in the paint is just...I don't even have the WORDS.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 09:18:43 PM
bench Krstic and put BBD back in, [dang]!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 09:18:48 PM
Ugh, bad stretch.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 28, 2011, 09:18:50 PM
What's happening? >:(

Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: hopebasement on March 28, 2011, 09:19:14 PM
Our defense in the paint is just...I don't even have the WORDS.

I'll help.

"Bad"

I think that's what you were going for...?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Neurotic Guy on March 28, 2011, 09:19:33 PM
Yuck.  Bad sequence there.  Getting out hustled now and can't seem to get a defensive stop. 
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 28, 2011, 09:19:37 PM
March 9th, 2011
19 days
10 games

Anyone know what all these things correlate too? TP if you guess it.

Number of days from 9 March 9th till the O'Neal Brothers come back and the number of games they will play before the playoffs?

Nice try but nope.

March 9th, 2011
19 days
10 games

Anyone know what all these things correlate too? TP if you guess it.

A shed load of injections for Shaq's foot.

Lol
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 09:19:43 PM
Come on, guys.  No sharing streaming links, please.  That's been the rule for about three years now.

Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: get_banners on March 28, 2011, 09:19:56 PM
wow...just awful play. we need the o'neal boys back asap.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 09:20:03 PM
What's happening? >:(



The usual.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 09:20:12 PM
Rondo came back to earth and started playing bad again, thats what happened.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: blink on March 28, 2011, 09:20:30 PM
sorry about that,  I didn't know.  Understood.

Come on, guys.  No sharing streaming links, please.  That's been the rule for about three years now.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 09:20:42 PM
Our defense in the paint is just...I don't even have the WORDS.

I'll help.

"Bad"

I think that's what you were going for...?

Its worse than bad...
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ballin on March 28, 2011, 09:20:44 PM
bench Krstic and put BBD back in, [dang]!

Baby's defense in the paint isn't any better.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 28, 2011, 09:20:55 PM
March 9th, 2011
19 days
10 games

Anyone know what all these things correlate too? TP if you guess it.

Last time we scored 100+ points in a game
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: hopebasement on March 28, 2011, 09:21:02 PM
March 9th, 2011
19 days
10 games

Anyone know what all these things correlate too? TP if you guess it.

Number of days from 9 March 9th till the O'Neal Brothers come back and the number of games they will play before the playoffs?

Nice try but nope.

March 9th, 2011
19 days
10 games

Anyone know what all these things correlate too? TP if you guess it.

A shed load of injections for Shaq's foot.

Lol

Till the first game of the playoffs?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 09:21:16 PM
Pacers are a very good playoff team im not surprised we lost this one, considering we are the worst 4th quarter team in basketball and cant win on the second night of back to backs.

I expected us to get blown out to be honest, no panic threads from me :)
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 28, 2011, 09:21:27 PM
2 missed FTs...C'mon son..
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 09:21:31 PM
bench Krstic and put BBD back in, [dang]!

Doc heard me
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 09:22:06 PM
I'm starting to feeling that white hot rage towards this team that I felt last year when I watched them play like absolute dog droppings against teams they ought to run out of the gym.  Just disgraceful.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 28, 2011, 09:22:17 PM
Pacers are a very good playoff team im not surprised we lost this one, considering we are the worst 4th quarter team in basketball and cant win on the second night of back to backs.

I expected us to get blown out to be honest, no panic threads from me :)

Apparently you have not watched the Miami Heat play basketball this year.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: get_banners on March 28, 2011, 09:22:20 PM
not our game...ray misses 1 FT, KG misses 2...
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2011, 09:22:30 PM
sorry about that,  I didn't know.  Understood.

Come on, guys.  No sharing streaming links, please.  That's been the rule for about three years now.

Come on, guys.  No sharing streaming links, please.  That's been the rule for about three years now.

Sorry about that.

Thanks for understanding, guys.  Just covering Jeff's butt; the NBA is pretty strict about this stuff.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 28, 2011, 09:22:32 PM

March 9th, 2011
19 days
10 games

Anyone know what all these things correlate too? TP if you guess it.

How long it's been since Krstic had self-respect?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Celtics/Run on March 28, 2011, 09:22:44 PM
Rondo came back to earth and started playing bad again, thats what happened.

BLAME IT ON RONDOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 09:23:18 PM
Horrible. If we lose and the Bulls also lose I will be LIVID.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 09:23:29 PM
Big Baby to the rescue!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2011, 09:23:59 PM
Sigh...  I'm starting to get complacent to games like this.  I guess that's a good thing, since I doubt it's our last missed opportunity this regular season.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 28, 2011, 09:24:47 PM
5 missed Free Throws in the last minute and a half.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 28, 2011, 09:24:57 PM
March 9th, 2011
19 days
10 games

Anyone know what all these things correlate too? TP if you guess it.

We are 5-5 since then?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: aporel#18 on March 28, 2011, 09:25:15 PM
Indiana is playing the size card, we are playing without Big Men.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 28, 2011, 09:25:28 PM
March 9th, 2011
19 days
10 games

Anyone know what all these things correlate too? TP if you guess it.

We are 5-5 since then?


It's the last time we scored 100+ points
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: IrishGreen on March 28, 2011, 09:25:41 PM
March 9th, 2011
19 days
10 games

Anyone know what all these things correlate too? TP if you guess it.

Number of days from 9 March 9th till the O'Neal Brothers come back and the number of games they will play before the playoffs?

Nice try but nope.

March 9th, 2011
19 days
10 games

Anyone know what all these things correlate too? TP if you guess it.

A shed load of injections for Shaq's foot.

Lol

In all seriousness though..

Last time we allowed 100pts?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2011, 09:26:08 PM
Ugly.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: LooseCannon on March 28, 2011, 09:26:24 PM

March 9th, 2011
19 days
10 games

Anyone know what all these things correlate too? TP if you guess it.

How long it's been since Krstic had self-respect?

How long it's been since Rondo had sex.  That's why he's been playing bad.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ejk3489 on March 28, 2011, 09:26:28 PM
Uh are you kidding me?!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: hpantazo on March 28, 2011, 09:26:32 PM
yep, we threw the game away
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: butterbeanlove on March 28, 2011, 09:26:33 PM
I thought our effort in this game was good, which distinguished it from a lot of recent games.

Also... if Donnyelle Marshall had a bad word to say about the sainted Ray Allen, would he vanish in a pillar of salt?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: hopebasement on March 28, 2011, 09:26:39 PM
Oh wow. Way to close guys.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Bankshot on March 28, 2011, 09:26:44 PM
Ray is the worst passer ever!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 28, 2011, 09:27:00 PM
Embarrassing.

Just play the guys on the end of the bench. At least they have an excuse to make these mistakes.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 09:27:10 PM
Celtics lol.

Just the name of this team is starting to be associated with laughter.

Phil Jackson was spot on.

This team knows how to lose games, they just dont have it.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: get_banners on March 28, 2011, 09:27:19 PM
we literally threw this game away...
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Green Hell on March 28, 2011, 09:27:22 PM
Ray Allen is not only missing shots in the clutch these days but has now added turning over the ball in the clutch to his MO.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 09:27:23 PM
Sigh... making catchy passes instead of making simple, focused passes will cost us big.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 09:27:40 PM
Utterly disgusted with this team. 

I think I'm mainly just disgusted with myself for having expectations for this team that were way too high.

They were never supposed to be good for this long.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: j804 on March 28, 2011, 09:27:40 PM
This is just plain sad now.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 28, 2011, 09:28:14 PM
Celtics lol.

Just the name of this team is starting to be associated with laughter.

Only in your posts.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 09:28:18 PM
Big Baby to the rescue!

I've been desperately trying to be optimistic as you requested, but..
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: get_banners on March 28, 2011, 09:28:23 PM
missed FTs, bad passes, poor defense...we deserve this loss. the team, especially the starters, should be embarrassed.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 09:28:30 PM
The worst part is that they tried...and lost...to the Pacers.

This isnt about being bored with the regular season, or coasting, or any of that nonsense. We are just BAD.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Rondo No Look on March 28, 2011, 09:28:37 PM
Embarrassing.

Just play the guys on the end of the bench. At least they have an excuse to make these mistakes.

agreed. back it in and wait for the playoffs, no need in playing the big 3 35 mins a night to lose to Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. teams
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 09:28:42 PM
Name ONE good thing Rondo has done in this 4th quarter?

This has to be one of his wort quarters all year. Hes still in a slump, or maybe he just isnt as good as he thought he was.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 09:29:00 PM
So uh . . . Rondo is a really great defender, huh?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: hpantazo on March 28, 2011, 09:29:28 PM
the effort was very good tonight, they just sucked, especially Ray and Kristic
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 09:30:04 PM
Rondo's hustle got us a 3 pointer but I fear it's too little too late after this Collison layup. Great D ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 28, 2011, 09:30:20 PM
We got Jeff Green to play him in the [dang] James Posey role. USE HIM THAT WAY!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Rondo No Look on March 28, 2011, 09:30:26 PM
EARTH TO DOC. MAYBE TRY JEFF GREEN AT THE END OF GAMES, NOT FAT BABY, IM SICK OF THIS CHUMP BRICKING IMPORTANT SHOTS AND STUFFING HIMSELF ON THE RIM
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: get_banners on March 28, 2011, 09:30:28 PM
hey, you know what's a good idea? give collison a free path to the hoop. man...this is just a clinic on how to play poor defense.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ballin on March 28, 2011, 09:30:33 PM
did anybody just see glen davis put out the red carpet for collison to drive down the lane?????? completely uncontested???
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 09:30:43 PM
The worst part is that they tried...and lost...to the Pacers.

This isnt about being bored with the regular season, or coasting, or any of that nonsense. We are just BAD.

Yeah, no way to rationalize this loss except that the team tried and just simply came up short . . . to the Pacers.

Comparing this team to the Heat and the Bulls is painful.  I don't even want to talk about comparing them to the Lakers.

The Celtics are going to get their butts kicked in the playoffs by a team that is younger, deeper, hungrier, and more talented than they are.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ejk3489 on March 28, 2011, 09:30:47 PM
Name ONE good thing Rondo has done in this 4th quarter?

This has to be one of his wort quarters all year. Hes still in a slump, or maybe he just isnt as good as he thought he was.

The whole TEAM hasn't done anything in the fourth quarter.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Errn on March 28, 2011, 09:30:54 PM
Wow just awful defense there. Where's Delonte?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 09:31:03 PM
good job
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Cman on March 28, 2011, 09:31:21 PM
Out, Collison, ouch.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 09:31:25 PM
Whats the point of playing the starers?

They need the last 2 weeks of the season off.

We arent catching LA or Chi, or even Miami.

Now is the time to conceded the rest of the regular season Doc, no point risking injury or burning out the starters right now. The regular season is done.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 28, 2011, 09:31:35 PM
15 god-[dang] points in the 4th quarter........15 POINTS!

 :-X
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Green Hell on March 28, 2011, 09:31:42 PM
So if we somehow make it back to the Finals and meets the Lakers on their home court, what is supposed to put us over the top? And please, PLEASE don't say Shaq  >:(
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Celtics/Run on March 28, 2011, 09:32:05 PM
Name ONE good thing Rondo has done in this 4th quarter?

This has to be one of his wort quarters all year. Hes still in a slump, or maybe he just isnt as good as he thought he was.

Offensive rebounding''''''''
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2011, 09:32:11 PM
Just gotta say it one more time:  Danny bamboozled Sam Presti.  Took him to the cleaners!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Juneauz on March 28, 2011, 09:32:27 PM
Name ONE good thing Rondo has done in this 4th quarter?

This has to be one of his wort quarters all year. Hes still in a slump, or maybe he just isnt as good as he thought he was.

two consecutive offensive rebounds?

he's our best player on the floor today, the others are sucking badly
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 09:32:31 PM
the effort was very good tonight, they just sucked, especially Ray and Kristic

and KG
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: droopdog7 on March 28, 2011, 09:32:36 PM
This team just plain sucks right now. No two ways about it.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: get_banners on March 28, 2011, 09:32:37 PM
this is yet another HORRIBLE LOSS. just awful play...
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 09:32:50 PM
Blow it up in the off-season, Danny, and let's hope for some good draft picks in 2012 / 2013. 

Maybe somebody will even do us the favor of taking Rondo's long contract off our hands for some draft picks and a prospect or two.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ejk3489 on March 28, 2011, 09:32:56 PM
The worst part is that they tried...and lost...to the Pacers.

This isnt about being bored with the regular season, or coasting, or any of that nonsense. We are just BAD.

Yeah, no way to rationalize this loss except that the team tried and just simply came up short . . . to the Pacers.

Comparing this team to the Heat and the Bulls is painful.  I don't even want to talk about comparing them to the Lakers.

The Celtics are going to get their butts kicked in the playoffs by a team that is younger, deeper, hungrier, and more talented than they are.

It's a good thing there's no back to backs in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 09:33:11 PM
Three seed. Sixers will win that series
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 28, 2011, 09:33:23 PM
Whats the point of playing the starers?

They need the last 2 weeks of the season off.

We arent catching LA or Chi, or even Miami.

Now is the time to conceded the rest of the regular season Doc, no point risking injury or burning out the starters right now. The regular season is done.

Make that your new sig...you say the same thing in EVERY game thread.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2011, 09:33:27 PM
Name ONE good thing Rondo has done in this 4th quarter?

This has to be one of his wort quarters all year. Hes still in a slump, or maybe he just isnt as good as he thought he was.

two consecutive offensive rebounds?

he's our best player on the floor today, the others are sucking badly

Agreed, other than that I think the Captain was probably our best player.  Definitely at least co-#1.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 09:33:29 PM
Blow it up in the off-season, Danny, and let's hope for some good draft picks in 2012 / 2013. 

Maybe somebody will even do us the favor of taking Rondo's long contract off our hands for some draft picks and a prospect or two.

Overreaction, anybody?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Rondo No Look on March 28, 2011, 09:33:59 PM
Glen Davis 35 mins - 5 rebounds
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: LilRip on March 28, 2011, 09:34:17 PM
i missed all but the last 3 minutes. looking at the box score (+/-), that Pacers bench really killed us
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 09:34:23 PM
I cant believe some of you expected to win this game.

Celtics are something like 2-10 on the second night of back to back games.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Casperian on March 28, 2011, 09:34:26 PM
Just gotta say it one more time:  Danny bamboozled Sam Presti.  Took him to the cleaners!

Are you serious?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 28, 2011, 09:35:09 PM
Glen Davis 35 mins - 5 rebounds

Like I said earlier...I can't wait for him to leave via FA this summer.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: lovely_20 on March 28, 2011, 09:35:21 PM
Blow it up in the off-season, Danny, and let's hope for some good draft picks in 2012 / 2013. 

Maybe somebody will even do us the favor of taking Rondo's long contract off our hands for some draft picks and a prospect or two.

Overreaction, anybody?

+1
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 09:35:25 PM
Just gotta say it one more time:  Danny bamboozled Sam Presti.  Took him to the cleaners!

Are you serious?

Hes being sarcastic.

Perkins was the best player on this team and nobody knew it until he was traded. Guy was the REAL leader and backbone of this team.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Andrew Celtic Nation on March 28, 2011, 09:35:35 PM
I could easily see us getting eliminated in the first round...Glen Davis does a lot of things but he also hurts us as much as he helps with his poor shot selection and the fact that he is a ballhog. Paul Pierce is the only starter that still has the killer instinct, Garnett has always turned into a nobody when the game is on the line but Ray hasn't done anything worthwhile in a 4th quarter in awhile, especially with his jumpshooting, while it is nice to see Rondo play better overall this team is just so much worse than they used to be and it shouldn't be that way, i don't know if it was the Ainge trade that killed the momentum but I hope Danny is happy with how the team looks now, I'm honestly disgusted to see us unable to win games that WE WANT TO WIN against these bad teams.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2011, 09:35:36 PM
Just gotta say it one more time:  Danny bamboozled Sam Presti.  Took him to the cleaners!

Are you serious?

No, not serious.  I'll probably express the sentiment many more times between now and the playoffs.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ejk3489 on March 28, 2011, 09:35:41 PM
Blow it up in the off-season, Danny, and let's hope for some good draft picks in 2012 / 2013. 

Maybe somebody will even do us the favor of taking Rondo's long contract off our hands for some draft picks and a prospect or two.

Overreaction, anybody?

Definitely.

Yeah, maybe some other team will do the favor of taking Rondo off our hands. 

His 10 million a year is just too much.  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 09:35:41 PM
So if we somehow make it back to the Finals and meets the Lakers on their home court, what is supposed to put us over the top? And please, PLEASE don't say Shaq  >:(

The Lakers? Are we even going to make it to the Lakers? We can't even beat the Pacers.

I'm worried about the BULLS if anything. Deng is beasting, Noah is Noah and Rose is going to eat Rondo alive.

I honestly dont want to think about this team and the play offs.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Green Hell on March 28, 2011, 09:35:47 PM
What happened to all the holier than thou optimist? All I see left is realist and pessimist.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 09:36:04 PM
this trade sank the C's.

Both offense and defense got worst.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: radiohead on March 28, 2011, 09:36:12 PM
Hibbert killed us today. We need the o'neals back asap. we're practically tied with Miami now, and we failed to capitalize on the Bulls impending loss. This just sucks big time. Even the Mavs have a better record than us now!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Casperian on March 28, 2011, 09:36:17 PM
Just gotta say it one more time:  Danny bamboozled Sam Presti.  Took him to the cleaners!

Are you serious?

No, not serious.  I'll probably express the sentiment many more times between now and the playoffs.

 ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Chris on March 28, 2011, 09:36:30 PM
Tired legs, second night of a road back to back.  This is not a surprise at all.  I am glad they seemed to care about this game though.  That's an improvement.

Thursday is going to be interesting though.  They have a couple nights off to get their legs back, and they should be up to play the Spurs.  That could be a real measuring-stick, even if Shaq isn't playing yet.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Rondo No Look on March 28, 2011, 09:36:50 PM
Doc Rivers is shooting himself in the foot with his refusal to play Jeff Green with the starters
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 09:37:18 PM
Just gotta say it one more time:  Danny bamboozled Sam Presti.  Took him to the cleaners!

Roy, do you honestly think having Perk in there tonight would have won us the game?  Would this team be so much better?  How great would this team be with Delonte, Von Wafer, and Glen Davis as our primary bench players? 

The Celtics CAN'T SCORE.  Late in games, they lose leads because they can't score, particularly inside.  They start shooting jumpshots, and they stop scoring.  They play decent defense; they just can't score.  Perk WOULD NOT help with that.

The trade is not the culprit here.  The team just doesn't have what it takes to be great at the moment . . . the core pieces just aren't enough.  I don't know if fatigue and injuries from age and lack of depth is finally catching up to them or what, but what I'm seeing out there is a team that is just not on the same level as Chicago, LA, Dallas, San Antonio, or half of the other playoff-bound teams. 

Blame the trade if you like, but it's a weak excuse.  I think Danny saw this coming, and tried to do something about it, but it was too late.  The window is slamming shut before our eyes.  We should all just be thankful it was even open as long as it was.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: butterbeanlove on March 28, 2011, 09:37:23 PM
The worst part is that they tried...and lost...to the Pacers.

This isnt about being bored with the regular season, or coasting, or any of that nonsense. We are just BAD.

Yeah, no way to rationalize this loss except that the team tried and just simply came up short . . . to the Pacers.

Comparing this team to the Heat and the Bulls is painful.  I don't even want to talk about comparing them to the Lakers.

The Celtics are going to get their butts kicked in the playoffs by a team that is younger, deeper, hungrier, and more talented than they are.

That's the scary part. We played hard and we lost to the Pacers.

Oh wait, Shaq's coming back. I must have hope!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 09:37:28 PM
Just gotta say it one more time:  Danny bamboozled Sam Presti.  Took him to the cleaners!

Are you serious?

Hes being sarcastic.

Perkins was the best player on this team and nobody knew it until he was traded. Guy was the REAL leader and backbone of this team.

Come on, let go the "Perk was the best player on that team", this is ridiculous and I hope you know it.

It's incredible that everybody keeps putting the blame on the trade while this would have still been a loss with Perk.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 09:37:38 PM
Tired legs, second night of a road back to back.  This is not a surprise at all.  I am glad they seemed to care about this game though.  That's an improvement.

Thursday is going to be interesting though.  They have a couple nights off to get their legs back, and they should be up to play the Spurs.  That could be a real measuring-stick, even if Shaq isn't playing yet.

Yep, time to be optimistic..  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 28, 2011, 09:37:43 PM
It's sad because you can tell people on this board care more about winning than some of the guys on the floor.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2011, 09:37:58 PM
Tired legs, second night of a road back to back.  This is not a surprise at all.  I am glad they seemed to care about this game though.  That's an improvement.

Thursday is going to be interesting though.  They have a couple nights off to get their legs back, and they should be up to play the Spurs.  That could be a real measuring-stick, even if Shaq isn't playing yet.

The Spurs should be playing without Duncan and Ginobili.  In other words, they should only beat us by 15.   :D
Title: You guys didnt really expect to win tonight did you?
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 09:38:03 PM
Celtics have something like a 2-10 record on the second night of back to backs, were the worst in the league when it comes to these games on the schedule, almost a guranteed loss. There are 3 more remaining and were going to lose those two.

They just cant win these games.

National TV is going to have a field day when the Spurs beat us without Ginobili and Duncan, arguably their two best players, C's also have a sub .500 record when facing teams missing their stars, so yes, thats a loss. Spurs will probably hit 25 threes and bury us in a blow out.

Get ready for it.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Cman on March 28, 2011, 09:38:38 PM
Just gotta say it one more time:  Danny bamboozled Sam Presti.  Took him to the cleaners!

Are you serious?

Hes being sarcastic.

Perkins was the best player on this team and nobody knew it until he was traded. Guy was the REAL leader and backbone of this team.

I still don't get why people think that Perkins was the backbone of the team.  It was CLEARLY Nate Robinson.

People are assuming that the Cs poor play is the result of losing Perkins, but Perkins was out most of the season, and the Celtics play didn't change when he started playing again.  

Instead, I think its due to Nate Robinson.  That little guy might not have been that effective on the court, but he sure did have a great, cocksure attitude that infected the team with a desire to win.  Now that he's gone, so are the Cs chances....
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: aporel#18 on March 28, 2011, 09:38:48 PM
The Celtics have won games the whole season through injuries and without key players. Tonight they've been too short on the frontcourt, Baby and KG are great, but you need someone to play C. Krstic was out because of fouls. Even if he could play, at some point being shorthanded will catch up with your team.

I'm not worried about HCA, last year some of the most horrible officiating took place in the Garden. I'm worried about the Celtics having enough healthy bodies to play hard through the playoffs.

Good night, I feel like we can't play worse basketball, so it's all getting better from here on.

Go Celtics!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 09:39:02 PM
Frustrating loss especially after getting back in this one. At least the silver linings are that the team tried and played hard and Rondo got back to his formel self (before disappearing in the 4th).

What's more frustrating is that once again the Bulls are probably going to lose and we're not capitalizing on it while they lose like 1 time every 2 weeks.

Good night everybody.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Green Hell on March 28, 2011, 09:39:07 PM
So can we all finally agree that we are watching a repeat of last season?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 09:39:15 PM
This team is finished. They will go out quick in the playoffs. They have nothing ...so.glad that trade got us more offenses....I am tired of the tired legs excuse of back to backs...this team loses to the bulls ..spurs and heat in the next ten games.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2011, 09:39:43 PM

It's incredible that everybody keeps putting the blame on the trade while this would have still been a loss with Perk.

If we never made the trade, the team wouldn't look like the hot mess that it does now.  The deal messed with the team's psyche, as well as their execution.  I know I'm not going to convince anybody of that who isn't already predisposed to the argument, but I refuse to believe this is just a coincidence.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 09:39:46 PM
Tired legs, second night of a road back to back.  This is not a surprise at all.  I am glad they seemed to care about this game though.  That's an improvement.

Thursday is going to be interesting though.  They have a couple nights off to get their legs back, and they should be up to play the Spurs.  That could be a real measuring-stick, even if Shaq isn't playing yet.

The Spurs should be playing without Duncan and Ginobili.  In other words, they should only beat us by 15.   :D

lol!! TP.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Chris on March 28, 2011, 09:40:16 PM
Tired legs, second night of a road back to back.  This is not a surprise at all.  I am glad they seemed to care about this game though.  That's an improvement.

Thursday is going to be interesting though.  They have a couple nights off to get their legs back, and they should be up to play the Spurs.  That could be a real measuring-stick, even if Shaq isn't playing yet.

The Spurs should be playing without Duncan and Ginobili.  In other words, they should only beat us by 15.   :D

Ah [dang].  OK, on to the Bulls game then.  

Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 28, 2011, 09:40:28 PM
The Celtics have won games the whole season through injuries and without key players. Tonight they've been too short on the frontcourt, Baby and KG are great, but you need someone to play C. Krstic was out because of fouls. Even if he could play, at some point being shorthanded will catch up with your team.

I'm not worried about HCA, last year some of the most horrible officiating took place in the Garden. I'm worried about the Celtics having enough healthy bodies to play hard through the playoffs.

Good night, I feel like we can't play worse basketball, so it's all getting better from here on.

Go Celtics!!!

Right, good night to the Celtics.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Casperian on March 28, 2011, 09:40:36 PM
It's sad because you can tell people on this board care more about winning than some of the guys on the floor.

Who do you mean? Krstic and BBD?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Juneauz on March 28, 2011, 09:40:49 PM
I'm new here so I probably should shut up... but this forum has an attitude problem.

Rondo sucks, Davis sucks, Kristic sucks... Bla bla bla
And guys really sucking like Allen and Green are hardly mentioned.
I don't get it
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 09:41:10 PM
Tired legs, second night of a road back to back.  This is not a surprise at all.  I am glad they seemed to care about this game though.  That's an improvement.

Thursday is going to be interesting though.  They have a couple nights off to get their legs back, and they should be up to play the Spurs.  That could be a real measuring-stick, even if Shaq isn't playing yet.

The Spurs should be playing without Duncan and Ginobili.  In other words, they should only beat us by 15.   :D

Win or lose, it doesn't really matter.  We should stop assigning importance to Win or Loss at this point, because there's no way to get the seed we'll need anyway. 

We're probably looking at the 3rd seed and 55 or 56 wins.  Second round exit, maybe lose in the conference finals if the team really guts it out.  Maybe we can at least be the team that prevents the Heat from winning a title this year.
Title: Re: You guys didnt really expect to win tonight did you?
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 09:41:11 PM
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Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: LilRip on March 28, 2011, 09:41:43 PM
Tired legs, second night of a road back to back.  This is not a surprise at all.  I am glad they seemed to care about this game though.  That's an improvement.

Thursday is going to be interesting though.  They have a couple nights off to get their legs back, and they should be up to play the Spurs.  That could be a real measuring-stick, even if Shaq isn't playing yet.

aren't Duncan and GInobili injured?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: letsgoblue86 on March 28, 2011, 09:41:55 PM
Those early fouls on KG and Kristic really did us in, as well as the lack of intensity in the 4th quarter.  We should have left Jeff Green in, he was getting to the hoop and drawing fouls for us.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Green Hell on March 28, 2011, 09:42:03 PM
Well guys, at least they tried. Isn't that the most important thing?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Bankshot on March 28, 2011, 09:42:40 PM
I'm not worried, yet.  We just need the O'Neal brothers back.  But if we don't get them back, we're done. :-X
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: letsgoblue86 on March 28, 2011, 09:42:53 PM
Tired legs, second night of a road back to back.  This is not a surprise at all.  I am glad they seemed to care about this game though.  That's an improvement.

Thursday is going to be interesting though.  They have a couple nights off to get their legs back, and they should be up to play the Spurs.  That could be a real measuring-stick, even if Shaq isn't playing yet.

The Spurs should be playing without Duncan and Ginobili.  In other words, they should only beat us by 15.   :D

Win or lose, it doesn't really matter.  We should stop assigning importance to Win or Loss at this point, because there's no way to get the seed we'll need anyway. 

We're probably looking at the 3rd seed and 55 or 56 wins.  Second round exit, maybe lose in the conference finals if the team really guts it out.  Maybe we can at least be the team that prevents the Heat from winning a title this year.
C'mon man, have a little faith in this team.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 09:42:57 PM
Tired legs, second night of a road back to back.  This is not a surprise at all.  I am glad they seemed to care about this game though.  That's an improvement.

Thursday is going to be interesting though.  They have a couple nights off to get their legs back, and they should be up to play the Spurs.  That could be a real measuring-stick, even if Shaq isn't playing yet.

The Spurs should be playing without Duncan and Ginobili.  In other words, they should only beat us by 15.   :D

Win or lose, it doesn't really matter.  We should stop assigning importance to Win or Loss at this point, because there's no way to get the seed we'll need anyway.  

We're probably looking at the 3rd seed and 55 or 56 wins.  Second round exit, maybe lose in the conference finals if the team really guts it out.  Maybe we can at least be the team that prevents the Heat from winning a title this year.

Yes, because we all know that losing to the Pacers on a back to back in March is a good prediction of playoffs success and it's a given we will lose in the second round because we lost to the Pacers on March 28th. How foolish of us to assume otherwise.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ejk3489 on March 28, 2011, 09:43:08 PM
I'm getting extreme deja vu here.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: lovely_20 on March 28, 2011, 09:43:11 PM
Tough loss, but a well fought game.  Indiana just outplayed us down the stretch.  I still have faith in this team to do well in the playoffs, regardless of HCA.  Hopefully, the two days of rest will do some good.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Cman on March 28, 2011, 09:43:24 PM

It's incredible that everybody keeps putting the blame on the trade while this would have still been a loss with Perk.

If we never made the trade, the team wouldn't look like the hot mess that it does now.  The deal messed with the team's psyche, as well as their execution.  I know I'm not going to convince anybody of that who isn't already predisposed to the argument, but I refuse to believe this is just a coincidence.

Seems very wishy washy. But could be true.
The fact remains that the record is worse post-trade than pre-trade.  Of course, we'll never know the counterfactual, and its hard to even make educated guesses about it.  
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 09:43:36 PM
So can we all finally agree that we are watching a repeat of last season?


No we cannot.

And unless I'm mistaken it was the Lakers that were handing out championship rings opening game this season, not the Celtics, so what exactly was so great about last season?

We made moves during the off season so this season wouldn't be like the last but everyone still keeps bringing up last season like it was some monumental accomplishment for us.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 28, 2011, 09:43:58 PM
Second round exit

That's an improvement over the playoffs prediction you'd made last year. Celtics will lose 4-2 against Miami you'd said...the result was right..but it was us who won that series. ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 09:44:05 PM

It's incredible that everybody keeps putting the blame on the trade while this would have still been a loss with Perk.

If we never made the trade, the team wouldn't look like the hot mess that it does now.  The deal messed with the team's psyche, as well as their execution.  I know I'm not going to convince anybody of that who isn't already predisposed to the argument, but I refuse to believe this is just a coincidence.

If the trade did one thing, it exposed the Celtics as being the mentally weak, soft finesse team everyone thought they were.

All bark, no bite, mentally weak, and soft.

Perkins was the teams MVP, he didnt bring stats, but he made the other players feel tougher then they actually were, when in reality the entire team is soft and old.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 09:44:16 PM
The entire team sucks...the starters all the way down. That trade ripped the heart out of this team killing the chemistry. I am so p---ed. They are now a lock.for a three seed. lucky to get by the sixers....out in six vs miami
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Drucci on March 28, 2011, 09:44:40 PM

It's incredible that everybody keeps putting the blame on the trade while this would have still been a loss with Perk.

If we never made the trade, the team wouldn't look like the hot mess that it does now.  The deal messed with the team's psyche, as well as their execution.  I know I'm not going to convince anybody of that who isn't already predisposed to the argument, but I refuse to believe this is just a coincidence.

What team psyche? The one that allowed the Celtics to come back from 20 and 15 point deficits against NOH and NY? The one that led them to come back in this one too only to fizzle down the stretch? Don't you think tired legs are more to blame here? I mean it's not a coincidence if our offense went down the toilet as the game progressed and the minutes piled up on the team.

The trade is just an excuse for a lot of people but certainly not a cause.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 09:44:47 PM
I'm new here so I probably should shut up... but this forum has an attitude problem.

Rondo sucks, Davis sucks, Kristic sucks... Bla bla bla
And guys really sucking like Allen and Green are hardly mentioned.
I don't get it

Here's the thing, Juneauz.  A lot of people on this forum have been following this incarnation of the Celtics (and many other incarnations) for the last few years, especially closely the last 4-6 months.  They have done so with the deep seated belief that this team can win a championship.  Anything less than that will be a disappointment.  This is, for all intents and purposes, our last real shot at a title with this group.  After this year, it's lockout and then rebuilding time. 

So many people are getting really worked up and riled up and disgusted and embarrassed and ashamed because what they're seeing before their eyes is this team breaking down and falling short before they even get to the playoffs.  They're seeing happen again what they saw happen in the last half of last season leading up to the playoffs, which resulted in a loss in the Finals.  The team just ran out of gas last year.  Didn't have the legs, or the depth, or home court.  The window is closing, and #18 is slipping away.

In other words, this all may seem like a gross overreaction to one game, but the last month has been pretty brutal.  And it all appears to be a very ominous, disturbing sign of things to come.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Green Hell on March 28, 2011, 09:45:08 PM
HOW IS THIS TEAM SUPPOSED TO BEAT THE LAKERS IN LA??
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: get_banners on March 28, 2011, 09:45:28 PM
If we never made the trade, the team wouldn't look like the hot mess that it does now.  The deal messed with the team's psyche, as well as their execution.  I know I'm not going to convince anybody of that who isn't already predisposed to the argument, but I refuse to believe this is just a coincidence.
really? really? the problem post-trade has been offense, as in we don't have any. this is the rare game that defense was an issue, though a lot of that was the refs making some questionable calls on our bigs. perkins is a liability on offense. nate isn't playing because he had knee surgery. so...how exactly would we be doing better? i'm sure the team was hurt by perk being traded and all, but when exactly did one of the most professional veteran teams in the game turn into the mental equivalent of a junior high squad? fact is, most of our players are slumping right now, we aren't playing focused (bored, probably), and we're basically losing games because we can't score a bucket. oh, and also, doc is really misusing jeff green as well. he's playing him like he's daniels, which is ridiculous. so, we're not even using the best part of the trade for us properly.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: houseonfire09 on March 28, 2011, 09:45:51 PM
If the Celtics get humiliated in San Antonio Thursday, can we collectively go to Boston Common on Friday to start preaching about how the end is near with signs like "Danny crucified Perk, the only son of Russell", "God Hates Bad Rondo Jumpers", and "Every Time Someone Says Shaq Will Return Maks Baby Jesus Cry"?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 09:45:58 PM
I'm new here so I probably should shut up... but this forum has an attitude problem.

Rondo sucks, Davis sucks, Kristic sucks... Bla bla bla
And guys really sucking like Allen and Green are hardly mentioned.
I don't get it

Ray has been useless since all star break. I have yet to see anything from Jeff Green that warrants the talk of him supposedly being the best player in the deal. I believe we were blindly robbed in that trade.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2011, 09:46:35 PM
I'm new here so I probably should shut up... but this forum has an attitude problem.

Rondo sucks, Davis sucks, Kristic sucks... Bla bla bla
And guys really sucking like Allen and Green are hardly mentioned.
I don't get it

Well, there's really no disputing that Krstic does, indeed, suck. ;)

The reason that the three guys you mentioned get criticized, I think, is because they've all had some ongoing issues that show up every game.  I personally agree that BBD got too much criticism tonight (although I also agree that he shoots too much and isn't very cerebral), and that some people are too quick to turn on Rondo.  However, that's the nature of a message board.

Also, Ray didn't have a great game, but I see no need to get the knives out for him.  Everybody is entitled to a poor game now and again.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: European NBA fan on March 28, 2011, 09:46:42 PM
I can't believe anyone blaming Rondo. He plays like an all star, along with the captain. Big Baby played well on offense, but tonight his last name was _avis. The rest of them were forgetable.

I liked how Doc and Rondo communicated throughout the game. It's the one really good thing I take with me from the game, along with Rondo's overall game coming back.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 09:46:44 PM
Well guys, at least they tried. Isn't that the most important thing?

Moral victories are for the Cavs, the Timberwolves and the Kings. Not us.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: blink on March 28, 2011, 09:47:16 PM
One thing I have noticed is the lack of being able to sustain the D all the way through the clock including through a blocked shot or an O rebound by the other team.  I saw a number of times when we got a block, but we can never seem to secure the tip/rebound off the block, or off the initial good defense.  Then the team ends up scoring a bunny layup.  We need to finish out playing tough D inside throughout the whole clock.  And we need to get more aggressive inside blocking out / pushing people out and then go get the ball.

Our interior D tonight really sucked.  I think Nenad will eventually figure out the scheme, but he still isn't a very good defensive rebounder.  KG and Baby were both pretty bad at this as well tonight.  Maybe with another big body it will get better.  You have to want to get to the ball, and we always seem to be a step late...

my 2cents
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Green Hell on March 28, 2011, 09:47:53 PM
I'm new here so I probably should shut up... but this forum has an attitude problem.

Rondo sucks, Davis sucks, Kristic sucks... Bla bla bla
And guys really sucking like Allen and Green are hardly mentioned.
I don't get it

Ray has been useless since all star break. I have yet to see anything Jeff Green that warrants the talk of him supposedly being the best player in the deal. I believe we were blindly robbed in that trade.

Ray has been useless for the past 2 years and if we had traded him at last years all-star break like we should have, we'd probably be looking for banner 19 right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 09:48:20 PM
Just don't see this team flipping the switch this season. Going to have a lot of free time come may
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2011, 09:48:28 PM
I'm new here so I probably should shut up... but this forum has an attitude problem.

Rondo sucks, Davis sucks, Kristic sucks... Bla bla bla
And guys really sucking like Allen and Green are hardly mentioned.
I don't get it

Ray has been useless since all star break. I have yet to see anything Jeff Green that warrants the talk of him supposedly being the best player in the deal. I believe we were blindly robbed in that trade.

Ray since the all-star game (prior to tonight):  16.2 points, 3.5 rebounds, 2.0 assists, 46.6% FG%, 44.2% 3PT%. 

Those numbers might be down a bit, but they're not useless.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 09:48:38 PM
HOW IS THIS TEAM SUPPOSED TO BEAT THE LAKERS IN LA??

We won't have that problem so don't worry.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: butterbeanlove on March 28, 2011, 09:48:40 PM
Just gotta say it one more time:  Danny bamboozled Sam Presti.  Took him to the cleaners!

Roy, do you honestly think having Perk in there tonight would have won us the game?  Would this team be so much better?  How great would this team be with Delonte, Von Wafer, and Glen Davis as our primary bench players? 

The Celtics CAN'T SCORE.  Late in games, they lose leads because they can't score, particularly inside.  They start shooting jumpshots, and they stop scoring.  They play decent defense; they just can't score.  Perk WOULD NOT help with that.

The trade is not the culprit here.  The team just doesn't have what it takes to be great at the moment . . . the core pieces just aren't enough.  I don't know if fatigue and injuries from age and lack of depth is finally catching up to them or what, but what I'm seeing out there is a team that is just not on the same level as Chicago, LA, Dallas, San Antonio, or half of the other playoff-bound teams. 

Blame the trade if you like, but it's a weak excuse.  I think Danny saw this coming, and tried to do something about it, but it was too late.  The window is slamming shut before our eyes.  We should all just be thankful it was even open as long as it was.

If the trade is not the culprit here, then the earthquake in Japan was not the culprit for the tsunami.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2011, 09:48:53 PM
Well, Danny Granger just came out and said that we missed Perk, so at least somebody sees it.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 09:48:57 PM
Second round exit

That's an improvement over the playoffs prediction you'd made last year. Celtics will lose 4-2 against Miami you'd said...the result was right..but it was us who won that series. ;)

I learned my lesson after last year.  I still think this team will flip the switch in the playoffs . . . but like last year, I don't think it will be enough without front court depth, inside scoring, strong rebounding, and home court advantage.  Those are the things that prevented this team from making it all the way to the finish line last year, and they are still glaring issues that have not been successfully addressed (despite Danny's best efforts).
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Green Hell on March 28, 2011, 09:49:06 PM
Well guys, at least they tried. Isn't that the most important thing?

Moral victories are for the Cavs, the Timberwolves and the Kings. Not us.

Really? Because a lot of people love what we did last year. In fact, half the fans here hope we repeat it!
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: LilRip on March 28, 2011, 09:49:29 PM
Well guys, at least they tried. Isn't that the most important thing?

Moral victories are for the Cavs, the Timberwolves and the Kings. Not us.

those teams are undefeated in Moral Victories :D
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 09:49:46 PM
Just gotta say it one more time:  Danny bamboozled Sam Presti.  Took him to the cleaners!

Roy, do you honestly think having Perk in there tonight would have won us the game?  Would this team be so much better?  How great would this team be with Delonte, Von Wafer, and Glen Davis as our primary bench players? 

The Celtics CAN'T SCORE.  Late in games, they lose leads because they can't score, particularly inside.  They start shooting jumpshots, and they stop scoring.  They play decent defense; they just can't score.  Perk WOULD NOT help with that.

The trade is not the culprit here.  The team just doesn't have what it takes to be great at the moment . . . the core pieces just aren't enough.  I don't know if fatigue and injuries from age and lack of depth is finally catching up to them or what, but what I'm seeing out there is a team that is just not on the same level as Chicago, LA, Dallas, San Antonio, or half of the other playoff-bound teams. 

Blame the trade if you like, but it's a weak excuse.  I think Danny saw this coming, and tried to do something about it, but it was too late.  The window is slamming shut before our eyes.  We should all just be thankful it was even open as long as it was.

If the trade is not the culprit here, then the earthquake in Japan was not the culprit for the tsunami.

Yeah, because that's a truly apt analogy and really just flawless causal logic.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Cman on March 28, 2011, 09:50:03 PM
Just don't see this team flipping the switch this season. Going to have a lot of free time come may

Danny should have seen this coming last offseason and flipped not just Perk, but Ray, Rondo, and probably KG as well for some young talent.


 ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: get_banners on March 28, 2011, 09:50:44 PM
Well, Danny Granger just came out and said that we missed Perk, so at least somebody sees it.
well then, that settles it. always good to have the opinion of basketball analyst extraordinaire danny granger.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ejk3489 on March 28, 2011, 09:51:13 PM
I'm new here so I probably should shut up... but this forum has an attitude problem.

Rondo sucks, Davis sucks, Kristic sucks... Bla bla bla
And guys really sucking like Allen and Green are hardly mentioned.
I don't get it

Ray has been useless since all star break. I have yet to see anything Jeff Green that warrants the talk of him supposedly being the best player in the deal. I believe we were blindly robbed in that trade.

Ray has been useless for the past 2 years and if we had traded him at last years all-star break like we should have, we'd probably be looking for banner 19 right now.

What?! Ray is only shooting a career high in FG% and 3P% this year while scoring 17 ppg and he hasn't missed a game.

Yeah, that screams useless to me.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Green Hell on March 28, 2011, 09:51:18 PM
I'm new here so I probably should shut up... but this forum has an attitude problem.

Rondo sucks, Davis sucks, Kristic sucks... Bla bla bla
And guys really sucking like Allen and Green are hardly mentioned.
I don't get it

Ray has been useless since all star break. I have yet to see anything Jeff Green that warrants the talk of him supposedly being the best player in the deal. I believe we were blindly robbed in that trade.

Ray since the all-star game (prior to tonight):  16.2 points, 3.5 rebounds, 2.0 assists, 46.6% FG%, 44.2% 3PT%. 

Those numbers might be down a bit, but they're not useless.

Until he decides to show up when it matters -- oh, like the NBA finals for instance -- than yeah, he is useless. I know it hurts everyones tender feelings for him, but Ray has been absolute **** when it counts.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 09:51:29 PM
This team is no longer feared. They are soft and in the toilet. Flush it and start over...I predict they win three more games the regular season
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2011, 09:51:38 PM
The trade is just an excuse for a lot of people but certainly not a cause.

So the slump coinciding with the trade, and the players talking about the loss of physicality and chemistry, is all just a big coincidence?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 09:51:49 PM
People saying we wouldnt have won if Perk was playing are like people saying the Cavs would win wthout LeBron.

Perkins was by far the MVP of this team, even him sitting on the bench supporting and guiding his teammates on both ends is enough.

Perk on bench in suit = as valuable as LeBron on the court.

We got rid of our MVP and were seeing a crumbled team without their superstar.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2011, 09:52:29 PM
Well, Danny Granger just came out and said that we missed Perk, so at least somebody sees it.
well then, that settles it. always good to have the opinion of basketball analyst extraordinaire danny granger.

Yeah, there's definitely no need to trust the guys actually playing against us.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 09:52:46 PM
Well, Danny Granger just came out and said that we missed Perk, so at least somebody sees it.

Everyone sees it except those with permanent green goggles.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 09:53:53 PM
Personally all the trade talk is getting annoying, Perkins was our best player, we traded him for a young talented project, get over it.

No need to bring up Perkins every single loss, he was a superstar we all know it we dont need reminding.

Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Cman on March 28, 2011, 09:54:00 PM
The trade is just an excuse for a lot of people but certainly not a cause.

So the slump coinciding with the trade, and the players talking about the loss of physicality and chemistry, is all just a big coincidence?

chemistry is one thing (back to your psyche comment).

but, to beat a dead horse, the Celtics were winning games without Perk at the start of the season.    I don't buy the physicality argument.

Edit: or at least, I don't buy that it's not something that can't be fixed with the addition of Shaq or JO.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Juneauz on March 28, 2011, 09:54:09 PM
I'm new here so I probably should shut up... but this forum has an attitude problem.

Rondo sucks, Davis sucks, Kristic sucks... Bla bla bla
And guys really sucking like Allen and Green are hardly mentioned.
I don't get it

Here's the thing, Juneauz.  A lot of people on this forum have been following this incarnation of the Celtics (and many other incarnations) for the last few years, especially closely the last 4-6 months.  They have done so with the deep seated belief that this team can win a championship.  Anything less than that will be a disappointment.  This is, for all intents and purposes, our last real shot at a title with this group.  After this year, it's lockout and then rebuilding time. 

So many people are getting really worked up and riled up and disgusted and embarrassed and ashamed because what they're seeing before their eyes is this team breaking down and falling short before they even get to the playoffs.  They're seeing happen again what they saw happen in the last half of last season leading up to the playoffs, which resulted in a loss in the Finals.  The team just ran out of gas last year.  Didn't have the legs, or the depth, or home court.  The window is closing, and #18 is slipping away.

In other words, this all may seem like a gross overreaction to one game, but the last month has been pretty brutal.  And it all appears to be a very ominous, disturbing sign of things to come.

I see what you're saying, PosImpos.
but I've been laughing and crying with the celtics just like you guys, in the last ten years. I don't miss a game, and I didn't miss one even when we were losing 20 in a row back in the days.
I'm frustrated just like you are, and I totally HATED the trade.
But what I don't get, is blaming always the same guys even when they play great, or never mention the "untachables" even when they play badly.

in the end, Danny Ainge is the one we should be really blaming for all of this.

But some guys here watch celtics games just to diss Rondo and BBD and will always do even if it makes no sense, just like today.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 09:54:43 PM
I'm new here so I probably should shut up... but this forum has an attitude problem.

Rondo sucks, Davis sucks, Kristic sucks... Bla bla bla
And guys really sucking like Allen and Green are hardly mentioned.
I don't get it

Ray has been useless since all star break. I have yet to see anything Jeff Green that warrants the talk of him supposedly being the best player in the deal. I believe we were blindly robbed in that trade.

Ray since the all-star game (prior to tonight):  16.2 points, 3.5 rebounds, 2.0 assists, 46.6% FG%, 44.2% 3PT%. 

Those numbers might be down a bit, but they're not useless.

Until he decides to show up when it matters -- oh, like the NBA finals for instance -- than yeah, he is useless. I know it hurts everyones tender feelings for him, but Ray has been absolute **** when it counts.

I was just about to say he disappears when we need him. I couldn't care less about stats.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 09:54:52 PM
This team is no longer feared. They are soft and in the toilet. Flush it and start over...I predict they win three more games the regular season

There are 9 games left . . . they'll win 4, maybe 5.  It's still more wins than last season, I guess.  And probably #3 instead of #4.

That said, I thought in the last 20 games the Celtics were going to go 15-5.  Boy was I wrong.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: LilRip on March 28, 2011, 09:54:57 PM
People saying we wouldnt have won if Perk was playing are like people saying the Cavs would win wthout LeBron.

Perkins was by far the MVP of this team, even him sitting on the bench supporting and guiding his teammates on both ends is enough.

Perk on bench in suit = as valuable as LeBron on the court.

We got rid of our MVP and were seeing a crumbled team without their superstar.

shhhh, it's quiet time now.

and no, Perk isn't our MVP but chemistry might've had a bigger effect than anyone could've predicted. and it may very well be the case that Perk's scowl was his most important asset.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: JSD on March 28, 2011, 09:55:31 PM
Well, Danny Granger just came out and said that we missed Perk, so at least somebody sees it.
well then, that settles it. always good to have the opinion of basketball analyst extraordinaire danny granger.

Yeah, there's definitely no need to trust the guys actually playing against us.

He went on to say they wanted to take advantage of Hibberts size over Baby. If Shaq or Jermaine played tonight he wouldnt have even mentioned us missing Perk.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Cman on March 28, 2011, 09:55:34 PM
Personally all the trade talk is getting annoying, Perkins was our best player, we traded him for a young talented project, get over it.

No need to bring up Perkins every single loss, he was a superstar we all know it we dont need reminding.



see, that's the misconception i'm working on fixing.  it wasnt perkins who was the best player, it was Robinson.  Cs were fine all year long with or without Perkins.  But with the trade of Robinson, the wheels just fell off this thing....
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2011, 09:56:13 PM
in the end, Danny Ainge is the one we should be really blaming for all of this.

Amen.  I love Danny and want to see his number retired, but he went for a home run when a single would have sufficed.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Juneauz on March 28, 2011, 09:56:20 PM
I'm new here so I probably should shut up... but this forum has an attitude problem.

Rondo sucks, Davis sucks, Kristic sucks... Bla bla bla
And guys really sucking like Allen and Green are hardly mentioned.
I don't get it

Here's the thing, Juneauz.  A lot of people on this forum have been following this incarnation of the Celtics (and many other incarnations) for the last few years, especially closely the last 4-6 months.  They have done so with the deep seated belief that this team can win a championship.  Anything less than that will be a disappointment.  This is, for all intents and purposes, our last real shot at a title with this group.  After this year, it's lockout and then rebuilding time. 

So many people are getting really worked up and riled up and disgusted and embarrassed and ashamed because what they're seeing before their eyes is this team breaking down and falling short before they even get to the playoffs.  They're seeing happen again what they saw happen in the last half of last season leading up to the playoffs, which resulted in a loss in the Finals.  The team just ran out of gas last year.  Didn't have the legs, or the depth, or home court.  The window is closing, and #18 is slipping away.

In other words, this all may seem like a gross overreaction to one game, but the last month has been pretty brutal.  And it all appears to be a very ominous, disturbing sign of things to come.

I see what you're saying, PosImpos.
but I've been laughing and crying with the celtics just like you guys, in the last ten years. I don't miss a game, and I didn't miss one even when we were losing 20 in a row back in the days.
I'm frustrated just like you are, and I totally HATED the trade.
But what I don't get, is blaming always the same guys even when they play great, or never mention the "untachables" even when they play badly.

in the end, Danny Ainge is the one we should be really blaming for all of this.

But some guys here watch celtics games just to diss Rondo and BBD and will always do even if it makes no sense, just like today.

sorry for the poor spelling, I'm not from US :)
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 09:56:40 PM
The trade destroyed the chemistry. It is obvious. They have mentality gone into the ground because of it. Danny panicked and it has cost is a chance at 18.  There will be no big run this playoffs...just shaq in a suit...baby shooting over and over.and a nice spring for golf
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: greenhead85 on March 28, 2011, 09:57:18 PM
I honestly think the roster is ok. Except for giving away Erden since we really need extra length.

The team had the best 2 quarters production (1st and 3rd) and the worst 2 quarters production (2nd and 4th) of the game.

Doc is really lacking creativity. He is so poor in  pacing players, managing playing time of the veterans and utilizing the talents of the bench (Green, Sasha, Bradley and Arroyo). The bench guys are a talented bunch who can contribute in well-timed manner even in frequent short spurts. None of the Pacers played beyond 33 minutes and they are even younger than us! Now is the best time to give exposure of the other bench players. Our overall W-L standing at the end of the season,I guess, will more or less be at number 3 and that is achievable even by using the bench guys.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: LilRip on March 28, 2011, 09:57:53 PM
and a nice spring for golf

well, i do love that type of green as well.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2011, 09:58:05 PM
Well, Danny Granger just came out and said that we missed Perk, so at least somebody sees it.
well then, that settles it. always good to have the opinion of basketball analyst extraordinaire danny granger.

Yeah, there's definitely no need to trust the guys actually playing against us.

He went on to say they wanted to take advantage of Hibberts size over Baby. If Shaq or Jermaine played tonight he wouldnt have even mentioned us missing Perk.

Nah...  I think Hibbert could have outperformed Shaq and his cortisone-injected, currently-in-a-boot self.

I hope Shaq is back, but I'm surprised that folks have so much confidence in him being a key contributor.  I see that as a 50/50 proposition, at best.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 28, 2011, 09:58:21 PM
What have Krstic and Green done for us thus far that Perk and Battier wouldn't have been able to do?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 09:58:47 PM
in the end, Danny Ainge is the one we should be really blaming for all of this.

Amen.  I love Danny and want to see his number retired, but he went for a home run when a single would have sufficed.

Couldn't have said it better.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 09:58:51 PM
I'm new here so I probably should shut up... but this forum has an attitude problem.

Rondo sucks, Davis sucks, Kristic sucks... Bla bla bla
And guys really sucking like Allen and Green are hardly mentioned.
I don't get it

Here's the thing, Juneauz.  A lot of people on this forum have been following this incarnation of the Celtics (and many other incarnations) for the last few years, especially closely the last 4-6 months.  They have done so with the deep seated belief that this team can win a championship.  Anything less than that will be a disappointment.  This is, for all intents and purposes, our last real shot at a title with this group.  After this year, it's lockout and then rebuilding time. 

So many people are getting really worked up and riled up and disgusted and embarrassed and ashamed because what they're seeing before their eyes is this team breaking down and falling short before they even get to the playoffs.  They're seeing happen again what they saw happen in the last half of last season leading up to the playoffs, which resulted in a loss in the Finals.  The team just ran out of gas last year.  Didn't have the legs, or the depth, or home court.  The window is closing, and #18 is slipping away.

In other words, this all may seem like a gross overreaction to one game, but the last month has been pretty brutal.  And it all appears to be a very ominous, disturbing sign of things to come.

I see what you're saying, PosImpos.
but I've been laughing and crying with the celtics just like you guys, in the last ten years. I don't miss a game, and I didn't miss one even when we were losing 20 in a row back in the days.
I'm frustrated just like you are, and I totally HATED the trade.
But what I don't get, is blaming always the same guys even when they play great, or never mention the "untachables" even when they play badly.

in the end, Danny Ainge is the one we should be really blaming for all of this.

But some guys here watch celtics games just to diss Rondo and BBD and will always do even if it makes no sense, just like today.


I think everybody just disagrees on who is to blame.  Personally, I don't believe that Danny is at fault.  I think he saw many of these issues coming ahead of time.  I think he wanted to try to address them to some degree and also attempt to put some youth in place to start creating a bridge between this group and the next.  I can't fault him for doing that. 

Just as Roy believes with much faith that the loss of Perkins is what has thrown this team into discord, I have faith in Danny.  I believe that the issues we're seeing crop up now are things that he expected to happen, and attempted to address beforehand.  I just don't think he was successful - but I don't think it was for lack of trying, or poor decision making.  I just have a feeling that this group is getting close to cooked.  Not cooked yet, but close.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 09:59:20 PM
What have Krstic and Green done for us thus far that Perk and Battier wouldn't have been able to do?

There's no way we would have been able to get Battier.  Houston got a better deal for him than we could have offered.


The proper comparison is Krstic and Green vs. Perk and Pavlovic.  I disagree that this team would be that much better with the latter.  Better defensively?  Perhaps.  But considerably worse offensively, and we're already putrid on offense.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Onslaught on March 28, 2011, 10:00:30 PM
Well, Danny Granger just came out and said that we missed Perk, so at least somebody sees it.
well then, that settles it. always good to have the opinion of basketball analyst extraordinaire danny granger.

Yeah, there's definitely no need to trust the guys actually playing against us.

He went on to say they wanted to take advantage of Hibberts size over Baby. If Shaq or Jermaine played tonight he wouldnt have even mentioned us missing Perk.
That's a very large IF. ANd it's still a large IF that they'll ever play. Or play well.


Dumb trade.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 10:01:27 PM
What have Krstic and Green done for us thus far that Perk and Battier wouldn't have been able to do?

The thought of Perk and Battier instead of Krstic and Green...sigh. Too late to dream now.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: jdpapa3 on March 28, 2011, 10:01:36 PM
KG getting into foul trouble killed him and the team. It reminded me of the story Doc told once upon a time. He told KG to take it easy a bit in one game and the end result was a horrible KG. He can't just turn it off and on again. And that was what he was forced into tonight with an array of terrible calls. I mean, missing 2 of 2 ft's? Missing a chippy over Collison? It was like KG getting neutered.

Playing a b2b on the road against a rested team that was playing for a playoff spot and the refs are getting your best player into foul trouble? Uphill battle.

Was nice to see Rondo get it going, but potentially at the expense of Ray Allen's rhythm.  
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Cman on March 28, 2011, 10:02:07 PM
in the end, Danny Ainge is the one we should be really blaming for all of this.

Amen.  I love Danny and want to see his number retired, but he went for a home run when a single would have sufficed.

Baseball metaphors are always good when talking about DA!

I agree the safer route would have been to take the single (which was some combination of players for Anthony Parker, IIRC).  Whether it would have been a better outcome or not is impossible to say.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Errn on March 28, 2011, 10:02:13 PM
Defense and possession are our problems. We forgot how to pass. We forgot how to create offense.

Marquis Daniels really contributed to our offensive pass-making (beginning with good passing and finding good shot selection).

Glen Davis has become a cancer on our team, making a face at Ray Allen like that at the end of the game. Glen doesn't care about winning. He's happy with "getting his own."

Ray Allen could have been tired on that play? Why would he be tired? Because he's the only other guard we have who 1) doesn't get burned on defense and 2) can dribble the ball well (West seems like he is still injured). Also, there's the matter of Von Wafer's injury (our training and rehab staff sucks balls ((we let Glen Davis eat pasta in his hotel room before games, for ****))).

Krstic really is a joke on defense. Green looks effortless on both ends of the court (and I mean effort-less).

Who brought this onto Boston? Well, can we really NOT blame it on Ainge and Doc? Why on Earth could they not see that Arroyo was a defensive liability? Why did they not see weaknesses in Avery Bradley's court vision? Why were the training staff not aware that Daniels' condition was something that could have happened when there were signs (from previous injury)? Why did Tony Allen feel underappreciated here? Why couldn't we keep any of our other (obviously essential) role players? Let's ask the same questions of Jermaine's injury. Why was Jermaine not properly evaluated? Why did he not keep himself in shape during recovery? Why did we not look after him to make sure he kept a proper diet, etc., during his recovery? Grown men will be grown men (boys will be boys), but there is a championship on the line.

Boston's problem seems to be about these things: quality role players (<-lack thereof) and poor management/coaching decisions that have gotten us to where we are.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 10:02:21 PM
The trade is just an excuse for a lot of people but certainly not a cause.

So the slump coinciding with the trade, and the players talking about the loss of physicality and chemistry, is all just a big coincidence?

I'll put it this way, Roy.  If this team could lose their physicality, chemistry, and swagger that easily - a bunch of veterans, guys who have been in the league for many years with many different teammates - then they are much weaker mentally than we ever expected. 

If they are really that fragile, they wouldn't have had what it takes to win a championship even if the trade had never occurred.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 10:02:55 PM
What have Krstic and Green done for us thus far that Perk and Battier wouldn't have been able to do?

The thought of Perk and Battier instead of Krstic and Green...sigh. Too late to dream now.

It always would have been a dream.  Battier was never really in the cards.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Cman on March 28, 2011, 10:03:11 PM
What have Krstic and Green done for us thus far that Perk and Battier wouldn't have been able to do?

There's no way we would have been able to get Battier.  Houston got a better deal for him than we could have offered.


The proper comparison is Krstic and Green vs. Perk and Pavlovic.  I disagree that this team would be that much better with the latter.  Better defensively?  Perhaps.  But considerably worse offensively, and we're already putrid on offense.

Or Perk and Anthony Parker.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Juneauz on March 28, 2011, 10:03:28 PM
I'm new here so I probably should shut up... but this forum has an attitude problem.

Rondo sucks, Davis sucks, Kristic sucks... Bla bla bla
And guys really sucking like Allen and Green are hardly mentioned.
I don't get it

Here's the thing, Juneauz.  A lot of people on this forum have been following this incarnation of the Celtics (and many other incarnations) for the last few years, especially closely the last 4-6 months.  They have done so with the deep seated belief that this team can win a championship.  Anything less than that will be a disappointment.  This is, for all intents and purposes, our last real shot at a title with this group.  After this year, it's lockout and then rebuilding time. 

So many people are getting really worked up and riled up and disgusted and embarrassed and ashamed because what they're seeing before their eyes is this team breaking down and falling short before they even get to the playoffs.  They're seeing happen again what they saw happen in the last half of last season leading up to the playoffs, which resulted in a loss in the Finals.  The team just ran out of gas last year.  Didn't have the legs, or the depth, or home court.  The window is closing, and #18 is slipping away.

In other words, this all may seem like a gross overreaction to one game, but the last month has been pretty brutal.  And it all appears to be a very ominous, disturbing sign of things to come.

I see what you're saying, PosImpos.
but I've been laughing and crying with the celtics just like you guys, in the last ten years. I don't miss a game, and I didn't miss one even when we were losing 20 in a row back in the days.
I'm frustrated just like you are, and I totally HATED the trade.
But what I don't get, is blaming always the same guys even when they play great, or never mention the "untachables" even when they play badly.

in the end, Danny Ainge is the one we should be really blaming for all of this.

But some guys here watch celtics games just to diss Rondo and BBD and will always do even if it makes no sense, just like today.


I think everybody just disagrees on who is to blame.  Personally, I don't believe that Danny is at fault.  I think he saw many of these issues coming ahead of time.  I think he wanted to try to address them to some degree and also attempt to put some youth in place to start creating a bridge between this group and the next.  I can't fault him for doing that. 

Just as Roy believes with much faith that the loss of Perkins is what has thrown this team into discord, I have faith in Danny.  I believe that the issues we're seeing crop up now are things that he expected to happen, and attempted to address beforehand.  I just don't think he was successful - but I don't think it was for lack of trying, or poor decision making.  I just have a feeling that this group is getting close to cooked.  Not cooked yet, but close.

Well we can at least agree he had bad timing.
He could've made these moves next year.
We had a great shot at a title, this season.
I remember this team playing great basketball a few months ago.
And when you have that, you shouldn't really think about the future.

winning NOW is the first goal
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: jdpapa3 on March 28, 2011, 10:04:03 PM
We tried for Anthony Parker. And Battier. And every rotation caliber swingman in the league and no one bit.

I can't believe so many are falling for the late season energy conservation bit again. "fool me once" syndrome.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 10:04:36 PM
What have Krstic and Green done for us thus far that Perk and Battier wouldn't have been able to do?

There's no way we would have been able to get Battier.  Houston got a better deal for him than we could have offered.


The proper comparison is Krstic and Green vs. Perk and Pavlovic.  I disagree that this team would be that much better with the latter.  Better defensively?  Perhaps.  But considerably worse offensively, and we're already putrid on offense.

Or Perk and Anthony Parker.


Meh.  Not much better, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 28, 2011, 10:04:45 PM
What have Krstic and Green done for us thus far that Perk and Battier wouldn't have been able to do?

There's no way we would have been able to get Battier.  Houston got a better deal for him than we could have offered.


The proper comparison is Krstic and Green vs. Perk and Pavlovic.  I disagree that this team would be that much better with the latter.  Better defensively?  Perhaps.  But considerably worse offensively, and we're already putrid on offense.

Why was it a "no way" deal? I'd read that we were very much in hunt to acquire Battier until Danny decided to be outsmart his brain cells...and pulled the trigger on the Krsitc and Green trade.

Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 10:05:23 PM
Like shaq and Jo will actually make any difference. they are walking injuries with nothing left.  Jeff teen has done about as much as Daniels did...which isn't much. this team is going nowhere. I have gone from expecting wins to being surprised if they do. that shouldn't happen with the Boston celtics....bulls....heat...lakers...all peaking....getting ready....Boston is just rolling over and over in a ditch of mediocrity
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: jdpapa3 on March 28, 2011, 10:05:47 PM
What have Krstic and Green done for us thus far that Perk and Battier wouldn't have been able to do?

The thought of Perk and Battier instead of Krstic and Green...sigh. Too late to dream now.

It always would have been a dream.  Battier was never really in the cards.

People are driving me up a wall. You can't just make up a hypothetical trade that you wanted to happen. Look at what Memph had to give up for Battier. A big that still had potential and a first rounder that projected to be much higher than ours.

Good call, Pos.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: JSD on March 28, 2011, 10:06:05 PM
Question for those who think this has to do with the trade:

Why did this team go through the exact same thing last year? Could it be health has been the biggest problem down the stretch the last couple years? Also, what was the Celtics record with Perk this season?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 10:06:38 PM
I'm new here so I probably should shut up... but this forum has an attitude problem.

Rondo sucks, Davis sucks, Kristic sucks... Bla bla bla
And guys really sucking like Allen and Green are hardly mentioned.
I don't get it

Here's the thing, Juneauz.  A lot of people on this forum have been following this incarnation of the Celtics (and many other incarnations) for the last few years, especially closely the last 4-6 months.  They have done so with the deep seated belief that this team can win a championship.  Anything less than that will be a disappointment.  This is, for all intents and purposes, our last real shot at a title with this group.  After this year, it's lockout and then rebuilding time. 

So many people are getting really worked up and riled up and disgusted and embarrassed and ashamed because what they're seeing before their eyes is this team breaking down and falling short before they even get to the playoffs.  They're seeing happen again what they saw happen in the last half of last season leading up to the playoffs, which resulted in a loss in the Finals.  The team just ran out of gas last year.  Didn't have the legs, or the depth, or home court.  The window is closing, and #18 is slipping away.

In other words, this all may seem like a gross overreaction to one game, but the last month has been pretty brutal.  And it all appears to be a very ominous, disturbing sign of things to come.

I see what you're saying, PosImpos.
but I've been laughing and crying with the celtics just like you guys, in the last ten years. I don't miss a game, and I didn't miss one even when we were losing 20 in a row back in the days.
I'm frustrated just like you are, and I totally HATED the trade.
But what I don't get, is blaming always the same guys even when they play great, or never mention the "untachables" even when they play badly.

in the end, Danny Ainge is the one we should be really blaming for all of this.

But some guys here watch celtics games just to diss Rondo and BBD and will always do even if it makes no sense, just like today.


I think everybody just disagrees on who is to blame.  Personally, I don't believe that Danny is at fault.  I think he saw many of these issues coming ahead of time.  I think he wanted to try to address them to some degree and also attempt to put some youth in place to start creating a bridge between this group and the next.  I can't fault him for doing that. 

Just as Roy believes with much faith that the loss of Perkins is what has thrown this team into discord, I have faith in Danny.  I believe that the issues we're seeing crop up now are things that he expected to happen, and attempted to address beforehand.  I just don't think he was successful - but I don't think it was for lack of trying, or poor decision making.  I just have a feeling that this group is getting close to cooked.  Not cooked yet, but close.

Well we can at least agree he had bad timing.
He could've made these moves next year.
We had a great shot at a title, this season.
I remember this team playing great basketball a few months ago.
And when you have that, you shouldn't really think about the future.

winning NOW is the first goal

I think it's too easy to say that just because we were playing great basketball a few months ago, we would be now if the trade hadn't happened.  I can't say that I know that for sure with the ease that some other people on this sight have said it.  I can't agree with it because what I see out there on the court doesn't bear it out.  The things that are causing this team to lose are the same things that caused them to lose last year, when we had Perk.  Having Perk now and not having Green or Krstic would certainly not help with end of quarter offensive stagnation, lack of energy, getting killed on the boards, and so on. 
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 10:07:05 PM
We tried for Anthony Parker. And Battier. And every rotation caliber swingman in the league and no one bit.

I can't believe so many are falling for the late season energy conservation bit again. "fool me once" syndrome.

Are you watching this team play?? No one is conserving anything.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 10:08:47 PM
What have Krstic and Green done for us thus far that Perk and Battier wouldn't have been able to do?

There's no way we would have been able to get Battier.  Houston got a better deal for him than we could have offered.


The proper comparison is Krstic and Green vs. Perk and Pavlovic.  I disagree that this team would be that much better with the latter.  Better defensively?  Perhaps.  But considerably worse offensively, and we're already putrid on offense.

Why was it a "no way" deal? I'd read that we were very much in hunt to acquire Battier until Danny decided to be outsmart his brain cells...and pulled the trigger on the Krsitc and Green trade.



As jdpapa noted, look at what Houston got for Battier.  They received much more than we could have offered.  Daryl Morey and Danny Ainge are friends and former colleagues.  If there was a trade there to be made, it would have been.  Battier didn't go to Memphis because Danny decided to trade with OKC.  Daryl pulled the trigger on that trade because it was the better deal, and it happened before the Perkins trade.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 10:08:56 PM
Question for those who think this has to do with the trade:

Why did this team go through the exact same thing last year? Could it be health has been the biggest problem down the stretch the last couple years? Also, what was the Celtics record with Perk this season?

Question for those who keep bringing up last year:

What was SO GREAT about last year that it has become the crutch people lean on to explain this disgusting play??
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 10:09:09 PM
All u have to do.is watch doc during games. He knows this team is done. He can't reach them anymore..it is sad. When Danny couldn't get a cheap wing...he panicked. And now we as seeing it has been a fiasco
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Cman on March 28, 2011, 10:09:13 PM
All the Celtics need to do is have a good cry in the lockerroom.
Thats worked wonders for the Heat.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 10:09:22 PM
We started slumping last year when we traded Eddie House also.

He was our 2nd best player next to perkins.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 10:11:24 PM
We started slumping last year when we traded Eddie House also.

He was our 2nd best player next to perkins.

lol you are such a troll
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 10:11:43 PM
We started slumping last year when we traded Eddie House also.

He was our 2nd best player next to perkins.

lol you are such a troll

Yeah :-\
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 10:12:48 PM
Just frustrating. I love the celtics but absolutely hate this team right now. Not because they are losing....but how they are and to who they are. Thursday will be another nice embarrassment on national television
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: CelticSooner on March 28, 2011, 10:13:03 PM
We started slumping last year when we traded Eddie House also.

He was our 2nd best player next to perkins.

hahaha
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Juneauz on March 28, 2011, 10:13:39 PM
I'm new here so I probably should shut up... but this forum has an attitude problem.

Rondo sucks, Davis sucks, Kristic sucks... Bla bla bla
And guys really sucking like Allen and Green are hardly mentioned.
I don't get it

Here's the thing, Juneauz.  A lot of people on this forum have been following this incarnation of the Celtics (and many other incarnations) for the last few years, especially closely the last 4-6 months.  They have done so with the deep seated belief that this team can win a championship.  Anything less than that will be a disappointment.  This is, for all intents and purposes, our last real shot at a title with this group.  After this year, it's lockout and then rebuilding time. 

So many people are getting really worked up and riled up and disgusted and embarrassed and ashamed because what they're seeing before their eyes is this team breaking down and falling short before they even get to the playoffs.  They're seeing happen again what they saw happen in the last half of last season leading up to the playoffs, which resulted in a loss in the Finals.  The team just ran out of gas last year.  Didn't have the legs, or the depth, or home court.  The window is closing, and #18 is slipping away.

In other words, this all may seem like a gross overreaction to one game, but the last month has been pretty brutal.  And it all appears to be a very ominous, disturbing sign of things to come.

I see what you're saying, PosImpos.
but I've been laughing and crying with the celtics just like you guys, in the last ten years. I don't miss a game, and I didn't miss one even when we were losing 20 in a row back in the days.
I'm frustrated just like you are, and I totally HATED the trade.
But what I don't get, is blaming always the same guys even when they play great, or never mention the "untachables" even when they play badly.

in the end, Danny Ainge is the one we should be really blaming for all of this.

But some guys here watch celtics games just to diss Rondo and BBD and will always do even if it makes no sense, just like today.


I think everybody just disagrees on who is to blame.  Personally, I don't believe that Danny is at fault.  I think he saw many of these issues coming ahead of time.  I think he wanted to try to address them to some degree and also attempt to put some youth in place to start creating a bridge between this group and the next.  I can't fault him for doing that. 

Just as Roy believes with much faith that the loss of Perkins is what has thrown this team into discord, I have faith in Danny.  I believe that the issues we're seeing crop up now are things that he expected to happen, and attempted to address beforehand.  I just don't think he was successful - but I don't think it was for lack of trying, or poor decision making.  I just have a feeling that this group is getting close to cooked.  Not cooked yet, but close.

Well we can at least agree he had bad timing.
He could've made these moves next year.
We had a great shot at a title, this season.
I remember this team playing great basketball a few months ago.
And when you have that, you shouldn't really think about the future.

winning NOW is the first goal

I think it's too easy to say that just because we were playing great basketball a few months ago, we would be now if the trade hadn't happened.  I can't say that I know that for sure with the ease that some other people on this sight have said it.  I can't agree with it because what I see out there on the court doesn't bear it out.  The things that are causing this team to lose are the same things that caused them to lose last year, when we had Perk.  Having Perk now and not having Green or Krstic would certainly not help with end of quarter offensive stagnation, lack of energy, getting killed on the boards, and so on. 

yea I guess it's hard to know what could've been, for sure. but I do feel like we're missing something more than last year.
Last season you could tell it had to do with boredom or fatigue but now... looks like something else is missing, both offensively and difensively. It's sad.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: JSD on March 28, 2011, 10:15:23 PM
Question for those who think this has to do with the trade:

Why did this team go through the exact same thing last year? Could it be health has been the biggest problem down the stretch the last couple years? Also, what was the Celtics record with Perk this season?

Question for those who keep bringing up last year:

What was SO GREAT about last year that it has become the crutch people lean on to explain this disgusting play??

They proved to me that they're a team more built for the playoffs; When they have days to rest and time to prepare for the same opponent, they'll win.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 10:16:17 PM
Sad thing is Boston could have got back within one to the bulls tonight...but yet they drop behind MIA FOR the three seed
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 10:17:53 PM
Question for those who think this has to do with the trade:

Why did this team go through the exact same thing last year? Could it be health has been the biggest problem down the stretch the last couple years? Also, what was the Celtics record with Perk this season?

Question for those who keep bringing up last year:

What was SO GREAT about last year that it has become the crutch people lean on to explain this disgusting play??

They proved to me that they're a team more built for the playoffs; When they have days to rest and time to prepare for the same opponent, they'll win.

They didnt win.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on March 28, 2011, 10:18:28 PM
Sad thing is Boston could have got back within one to the bulls tonight...but yet they drop behind MIA FOR the three seed

This is what p---es me off the most.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: PosImpos on March 28, 2011, 10:20:52 PM
Sad thing is Boston could have got back within one to the bulls tonight...but yet they drop behind MIA FOR the three seed

This is what p---es me off the most.

Honestly, it was a pretty serious longshot to catch the Bulls at this point, even before the loss tonight.


On a positive note, at least we know that if the Sixers somehow managed to face the Bulls in the playoffs, it'd be a good matchup.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 10:23:27 PM
Sad thing is Boston could have got back within one to the bulls tonight...but yet they drop behind MIA FOR the three seed

This is what p---es me off the most.

Honestly, it was a pretty serious longshot to catch the Bulls at this point, even before the loss tonight.


On a positive note, at least we know that if the Sixers somehow managed to face the Bulls in the playoffs, it'd be a good matchup.
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Sixers going to give Boston a lot of problems. Could see the winning that series
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: j804 on March 28, 2011, 10:24:41 PM
Well, Danny Granger just came out and said that we missed Perk, so at least somebody sees it.
It's no secret the trade has disrupted our psyche and screwed with us in every way possible
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 10:25:15 PM
Why do you guys as fans take HCA and the #1 so seriously?

The Celtics dont, and they prove they dont care by their play.

Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 28, 2011, 10:26:06 PM
Okay, I know we are playing bad...and I'm not happy with the our performance either...but its ridiculous to say that Sixers will beat us in the playoffs. At best, Philly will win 2 games..not more.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 10:27:41 PM
Why do you guys as fans take HCA and the #1 so seriously?

The Celtics dont, and they prove they dont care by their play.



Celtics having to beat Miami and the bulls without home court isn't happening. I could see both those teams stealing a game at boston...meaning u have to win twice on the road.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Megatron on March 28, 2011, 10:29:28 PM
Why do you guys as fans take HCA and the #1 so seriously?

The Celtics dont, and they prove they dont care by their play.



Celtics having to beat Miami and the bulls without home court isn't happening. I could see both those teams stealing a game at boston...meaning u have to win twice on the road.

And thats what they Celtics want.

If they cared and were scared of facing the Bulls and Miami then they wouldnt be playing like trash.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 10:32:42 PM
They are playing like trash because they are done. Finished. They beat philly maybe in six...they lose to Miami in six. Just don't have it this year...doc knows it
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: j804 on March 28, 2011, 10:32:45 PM
The trade is just an excuse for a lot of people but certainly not a cause.

So the slump coinciding with the trade, and the players talking about the loss of physicality and chemistry, is all just a big coincidence?

chemistry is one thing (back to your psyche comment).

but, to beat a dead horse, the Celtics were winning games without Perk at the start of the season.    I don't buy the physicality argument.

Edit: or at least, I don't buy that it's not something that can't be fixed with the addition of Shaq or JO.
Shaq or JO will not restore the chemistry rut and wreck that has become post-trade it's too late. That is besides the point mark my words those guys will be in constant foul trouble and give us hardly anything. 
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ejk3489 on March 28, 2011, 10:35:38 PM
They are playing like trash because they are done. Finished. They beat philly maybe in six...they lose to Miami in six. Just don't have it this year...doc knows it

Don't you want to at least see how this team plays in the playoffs before making statements like these again?
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 10:44:03 PM
They are playing like trash because they are done. Finished. They beat philly maybe in six...they lose to Miami in six. Just don't have it this year...doc knows it

Don't you want to at least see how this team plays in the playoffs before making statements like these again?


I have seen enough. I don't think shaq nor Jo will make a difference. Both will be gimpy. This team has lost its way...and I don't think they are good enough to just flip it. I don't trust them. I will go into the playoffs hoping to win some games...and will be shocked if they get on any kind of run
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: dlpin on March 28, 2011, 10:46:23 PM
They are playing like trash because they are done. Finished. They beat philly maybe in six...they lose to Miami in six. Just don't have it this year...doc knows it

See you next year, then.

I am sorry, but it is so obvious that the celtics are saving up their legs for the playoffs and that is the real reason for the "slump."

Every game, the celtics absolutely destroy the other team for one quarter. Then they don't struggle. They simply don't put in the effort. They settle for 3s on one end and don't chase 3s on the other.

Now, does that mean we will beat Miami? Not necessarily, because Miami is good enough to beat anyone.


But to me it is so clear that they are simply slacking off to save their legs that it is hard to take the doom and gloom seriously.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: ejk3489 on March 28, 2011, 10:49:31 PM
They are playing like trash because they are done. Finished. They beat philly maybe in six...they lose to Miami in six. Just don't have it this year...doc knows it

Don't you want to at least see how this team plays in the playoffs before making statements like these again?


I have seen enough. I don't think shaq nor Jo will make a difference. Both will be gimpy. This team has lost its way...and I don't think they are good enough to just flip it. I don't trust them. I will go into the playoffs hoping to win some games...and will be shocked if they get on any kind of run

Honestly you could've written the same thing last year (you probably did?)...anyways, it's clear that the teams playoff hopes ride on Shaq and/or JO.

I won't make an opinion on this team until we see them come back.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 10:53:31 PM
It is more than saving their legs. I would buy that last year. Look at their body language...it is awful...watch doc....he doesn't know what to do. These guys are lost mentally...soft physically and not anywhere on the same page. Problem is a lot bigger than just saving themselves for the playoffs. I expect we see these same attributes when the playoffs start
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: dlpin on March 28, 2011, 10:55:36 PM
It is more than saving their legs. I would buy that last year. Look at their body language...it is awful...watch doc....he doesn't know what to do. These guys are lost mentally...soft physically and not anywhere on the same page. Problem is a lot bigger than just saving themselves for the playoffs. I expect we see these same attributes when the playoffs start

I am pretty sure similar things were posted last year about last year's team.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: celticinorlando on March 28, 2011, 11:02:26 PM
Last year they had a team that had been together forever and could afford to to save it....this year they have a new team pretty much other than five guys. They need this time to get it together not coast
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: dlpin on March 28, 2011, 11:09:38 PM
Last year they had a team that had been together forever and could afford to to save it....this year they have a new team pretty much other than five guys. They need this time to get it together not coast

No. Last year the celtics had 6 guys in the rotation who had been on the team long term, and then Sheed, Daniels and Nate who were all with the team for less than a year.

This year we have 5 guys in the rotation who have been with the team long term. I doubt that 1 guy having been with the team long term makes a difference in this.
Title: Re: Celtics (51-21) at Pacers (32-42) 3/28
Post by: Tai on March 29, 2011, 11:22:38 AM
Last year they had a team that had been together forever and could afford to to save it....this year they have a new team pretty much other than five guys. They need this time to get it together not coast

You flip your point every post.

First, it was that the guys are tired.

Now it's that they have a new team, even though it seems like they have new guys every year since 07-08.

Very simply, wait until the playoffs to say they're done.