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Title: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: FLCeltsFan on March 17, 2011, 03:24:29 PM
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Boston Celtics (48-18) at Houston Rockets (35-34)
Friday, March 18
8:30 PM ET
Regular Season Game #67, Road Game #32
TV:  CSN-NE, FSH, NBA-LP 763/764
Radio:  WEEI, KILT
Toyota Center

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Probable Starting Matchups
Point Guard
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Rajon Rondo vs Kyle Lowry

Shooting Guard
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Ray Allen vs Kevin Martin

Small Forward
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Paul Pierce vs Chase Budinger   

Power Forward
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Kevin Garnett vs Patrick Patterson 

Center

(http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/nenad_krstic.jpg)  vs  (http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/chuck_hayes.jpg)
Nenad Krstic vs Chuck Hayes 

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(http://assets.espn.go.com/i/teamlogos/nba/sml/trans/bos.gif) Bench  
Jeff Green
Sasha Pavlovic
Troy Murphy
Carlos Arroyo
Avery Bradley
Glen Davis
Delonte West

Injured
Shaquille O'Neal (knee) out
Jermaine O'Neal (knee) out
Von Wafer (calf) out

(http://assets.espn.go.com/i/teamlogos/nba/sml/trans/hou.gif) Bench
Courtney Lee
Jordan Hill
Goran Dragic
Brad Miller
DeMarre Carroll
Hasheem Thabeet

Injured
Yao Ming (ankle)  out
Terrence Williams (abdominal)  questionable
Luis Scola (knee) questionable 

Team Connections
Chuck Hayes, Patrick Patterson and Rajon Rondo all attended the University of Kentucky
Von Wafer played for the Rockets during the 2008‐09 season
Assistant Coach Mike Longabardi worked for Houston from 2003‐07
Jermaine O’Neal and Brad Miller were teammates in Indiana from
2001‐04
Goran Dragic played with Shaquille O’Neal in Phoenix during the 2008‐09 season
Hasheem Thabeet and Ray Allen both attended the University of Connecticut
Celtics Assistant Coach Roy Rogers and Rockets Assistant Coach T.R. Dunn both attended the University of Alabama..
Terrence Williams and Troy Murphy were teammates in New Jersey earlier during the 2010‐11 season

Game Notes
This is the second and final meeting between these two teams.  The Rockets beat the Celtics in the Garden 108-102, giving the Celtics one of their 6 losses at home.  The Celtics are fighting with the Bulls for the top spot in the East while the Rockets are fighting to make the playoffs, just 2.5 games out of 8th in the West. 

The Celtics are finally starting to get healthy with Delonte finally back and the promise of the O'Neals soon to follow.  The second unit is rounding into shape and was a big reason for the Celtics win over the Pacers.    Now, the starters have to get focused and rested for the Celtics to actually show what they can do.   In the meantime, we never know whether we will see the team that beat the Bucks and the Pacers or the team that lost to the Clippers and the Nets. 

The Celtics have lost the last 2 overall to the Rockets, both in Boston and they have a 4 game win streak going in Houston.  Both teams are 7-3 in their last 10 games and the Celtics are coming off a win while the Rockets have a 2 win streak going.  The Celtics are 19-12 on the road while the Rockets are 19-14 at home.

If the bench continues to gel and the team regains focus, they should be able to get a win in this game.   This being the first of a back to back set, hopefully they will take care of business early and get the starters some rest. 

Key Matchups
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Rajon Rondo vs Kyle Lowry
As Rondo goes, so go the Celtics.  According to KG, Rondo has been playing in pain and my guess is that it is the plantar fasciitis that has been bothering him much of the year.  He didn't score against the Pacers but did make some great passes and had assists.  If he is injured,  Doc should rest him up for the playoffs and give Arroyo and West some extra playing time. 

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Ray Allen vs Kevin Martin
Martin is the focal point of the Rockets attack and is averaging 22.8 points per game.  Ray will need to try to limit Martin's effectiveness while also looking for his own shot.  Running Martin off of a ton of screens should slow him down a bit.  Hopefully the starters will get off to a better start than they have in their last couple of  games. 

Honorable Mention
Kevin Garnett vs Patrick Patterson
Patterson is a young and up and coming player for the Rockets.  Hopefully KG and will come out focused and take advantage of this matchup from the beginning.   KG should have a big game and the Celtics need to look for him on offense. 

Keys to the Game
Defense - The Celtics must keep their defensive mindset.    Defense wins games and it will win a championship.  The Celtics' defense took a step back at the trade deadline, but they are beginning to develop chemistry but that trend needs to continue as the Celtics defense builds toward the playoffs.     

Rebounding -  Rebounding is second to defense in importance in winning games.   The Celtics need to put out effort to crash the boards and prevent the Rockets second chance points and fast break opportunities.   They also give themselves extra possessions by grabbing the offensive rebounds.   Big Baby has had 14 and 9 rebounds in his last 2 games and it would be great if he can continue that work on the boards.   

Ball Movement - The Celtics are tough to beat when they keep the ball moving and find the open man.  It is when the ball gets stagnant and players try to do too much and the ball stops moving that the Celtics struggle to score and look vulnerable. 

Be Aggressive -  Too many times  we see the Celtics get beat to loose balls and rebounds.  the Celtics have to be aggressive in going after loose balls, grabbing rebounds and taking the ball to the basket.  The more aggressive team will get  more respect from the refs and they also take some steam out of the other team by attacking and being aggressive.   

Play 48 Minutes - The Celtics can't afford to come out sluggish or to slack off after the half or down the stretch. They have to come out strong and play for 48 minutes without let up.  The bench has to continue where the starters leave off and give the team a boost when they come in.  Lately, the bench has been doing their part, now the starters have to get back on track. 

X-Factor
Revenge
The Rockets came into the Garden and beat the Celtics.  They need to play hard and not allow the Rockets to sweep the series.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: letsgoblue86 on March 17, 2011, 03:57:46 PM
Nice work FL, all i can say is that i'm glad aaron brooks isn't on the rockets anymore.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 17, 2011, 04:16:16 PM
TP FL.

Chase Budinger and Kevin Martin need to be kept in check..do that and we shouldn't have much problem beating them.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 17, 2011, 04:53:54 PM
Going to be another tough game, Rockets always play hard, no matter what.

Thank god they dont have the Celtics killer Aaron Brooks anymore though, that guy demolishes us almost every time he plays us.

We need to lock down K-Mart and Budinger, limiting those two will be key.

I sense a Rockets three fest, if Scola is out they are going to be super perimeter oriented since Hayes and the other scrub they have at PF dont have offensive games.

We need to go inside to Krstic and KG as much as possible, they have huge height advantages over the Rockets.

Without Battier to pester Pierce, he should be able to dominate this game. We have advanatages at every spot, Lowry isnt athletic or very quick, so even though Rondo is slumping he should be able to defend him well.

Good thing this isnt a back to back, C's win this one by 10.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Fafnir on March 17, 2011, 05:18:10 PM
Going to be another tough game, Rockets always play hard, no matter what.

Thank god they dont have the Celtics killer Aaron Brooks anymore though, that guy demolishes us almost every time he plays us.

We need to lock down K-Mart and Budinger, limiting those two will be key.

I sense a Rockets three fest, if Scola is out they are going to be super perimeter oriented since Hayes and the other scrub they have at PF dont have offensive games.

We need to go inside to Krstic and KG as much as possible, they have huge height advantages over the Rockets.

Without Battier to pester Pierce, he should be able to dominate this game. We have advanatages at every spot, Lowry isnt athletic or very quick, so even though Rondo is slumping he should be able to defend him well.

Good thing this isnt a back to back, C's win this one by 10.
Aaron Brooks Career Averages:
25.3 MPG 12.6 PPG 1.9 RPG 3.6 APG .41 FG% .364 3P%
26.1 MPG 15.5 PPG 1.6 RPG 4 APG .524 FG% .531 3P%

http://bkref.com/tiny/n5gnU

He's shot well from the field, but I think Celtics killer is a moniker handed out far too lightly.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: celticinorlando on March 17, 2011, 06:12:50 PM
another should be win esp with aaron brooks gone
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: jdz101 on March 17, 2011, 10:30:53 PM
Cmon Cs let's get a win  :o
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: FLCeltsFan on March 17, 2011, 10:38:55 PM
The Bulls won again tonight.  That puts them back up half a game over the Celtics.  Bulls play the Pacers tomorrow night.  If they win again tomorrow and the Celtics lose that puts them up 1.5 games.  The Celtics NEED to win this game as I doubt the Pacers beat the Bulls. 
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: tgreanier on March 17, 2011, 10:44:00 PM
I agree a win is big here, but I do not think HCA is that critical this season...as long as they can have a better record than the Lakers. I still think the Lakers are coming out of the West (my faith in the Spurs is very limited and I think Oklahoma City needs one more season before they are the "real deal").

But, as I watched the entire 1986 Finals again this week, I am used to watching Boston beat Houston, so I would not mind seeing the trend continue.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: FLCeltsFan on March 18, 2011, 12:53:13 PM
Official Report
Jason Phillips
Phillips has been in the league for 8 years. He has officiated 380+ regular season games. Before landing in the NBA he worked for the CBA 6 seasons, the WNBA 3 seasons, 2 years in the Dallas Pro-Am, and 5 seasons at the high school level in Texas. Phillips has officiated only one other game for the Celtics, the last Orlando game in which the Celtics shot 34 free throws to 16 for the Magic. The Celtics are 7-3 over their last 10 games with Phillips as a ref while Houston is 5-5 with Phillips over their last 10. His home W/L record this season is 33-21.

John Goble
John Goble is a relatively new referee in the NBA in his 3rd season in the league. He’s officiated 208+ regular season games and 2 playoff games. Seems odd that Goble already has called a couple of playoff games with just 3 years of experience and others have been in the league 12 years or more and haven't cracked the playoff rotation yet. The Celtics are 4-1 this season and 7-3 over their last 10 games that Goble has officiated. The Rockets are 8-2 in their last 10 games with Goble. His home W/L record this season is 37-19.

Josh Tiven
This is Tiven's first full season as an NBA Referee. He was part of a group of NBDL refs last season who officiated several games as part of an initiative aimed at preparing top prospects to move up. He also spent time calling games in the WNBA and college before moving to the NBDL. The Celtics are 2-1 so far this seaaon with Tiven as an official. The loss was the Celtics 108-102 loss to the Rockets at the Garden. The Celtics are also 3-2 in all 5 games with Tiven. The Rockets are 4-1 in all of their 5 games with Tiven. His home W/L record this season is 29-19.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: makaveli on March 18, 2011, 07:52:06 PM
Bulls are down 12 and are not looking good. A great chance for Celtics to take the lead again(for good I hope)
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: ACF on March 18, 2011, 07:56:07 PM
TP 4 the GT.

Go grab that number one spot, C's.





                  Go Celtics!
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 08:21:18 PM
C's arent on a back to back.

Houston without Scola and Brooks.

We should win this one big. We need to guard them on the perimeter because they are going to do nothing but launch jumpshots and threes this game, they have no inside presence.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on March 18, 2011, 08:29:12 PM
If the Cs can hold Budinger under 20 I'll be ecstatic. They cannot start slow out of the gate either.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: zerophase on March 18, 2011, 08:39:32 PM
Houston Boston games are always very close... or has been the last couple years minus the time we broke their 22 game win streak. This should be a good game.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 08:41:16 PM
Patterson's got skills, we have to watch out for him
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: zerophase on March 18, 2011, 08:44:31 PM
thankfully we don't have to worry about the Celtics killer, Aaron Brooks.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 08:45:30 PM
We need KG and Krstic to dominate this game.

Houston bigs are both small.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 08:46:37 PM
C's came out slow. Bench needs to come in to give us energy.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 08:47:30 PM
Get the bench in Doc, our starers are getting dominated.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: outcry on March 18, 2011, 08:47:58 PM
How do the refs call a foul on a jump ball? THROW THE BALL STRAIGHT UP NEXT TIME.  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: celticinorlando on March 18, 2011, 08:48:46 PM
Slow starts....ugh
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 08:52:06 PM
Houston Rockets = a team that with 5 high school freshmen would probably be a .500 team due to how hard they work every single night.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Fafnir on March 18, 2011, 08:54:06 PM
Houston Rockets = a team that with 5 high school freshmen would probably be a .500 team due to how hard they work every single night.
How about no?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 08:55:56 PM
Houston Rockets = a team that with 5 high school freshmen would probably be a .500 team due to how hard they work every single night.
How about no?

Personally I think they would be above .500
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: zerophase on March 18, 2011, 08:59:02 PM
Houston Rockets = a team that with 5 high school freshmen would probably be a .500 team due to how hard they work every single night.
How about no?

Personally I think they would be above .500

Uh no.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: makaveli on March 18, 2011, 08:59:27 PM
Paul is really setting the tone out there  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Fafnir on March 18, 2011, 09:00:10 PM
Houston Rockets = a team that with 5 high school freshmen would probably be a .500 team due to how hard they work every single night.
How about no?

Personally I think they would be above .500
A team of 15 year olds would not be able to win a game in the NBA.

Remember the rockets (whom are grown men) are only one game above .500
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 09:02:47 PM
I like this game. Rockets hitting ever bail out and tough shot.

C's are playing some good defense and clearly came to play tonight.

Only a matter of time until the Rockets shots stop falling.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: The DarkPassenger on March 18, 2011, 09:03:23 PM
Houston Rockets = a team that with 5 high school freshmen would probably be a .500 team due to how hard they work every single night.
How about no?

Personally I think they would be above .500
A team of 15 year olds would not be able to win a game in the NBA.

Remember the rockets (whom are grown men) are only one game above .500

Rockets are still talented with Lowry, Martin, Lee, Budinger and are just one or two key pieces away from being a force.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 09:04:07 PM
I think they got krstic because they knew rondo wasnt going to score anymore  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 09:06:08 PM
Brooks who?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: IrishGreen on March 18, 2011, 09:07:18 PM
Arroyo is terrible..End of.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 09:07:29 PM
Nice defense
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Drucci on March 18, 2011, 09:07:44 PM
Well I guess I was wrong to feel relieved that Brooks is no longer a Rocket... now it's Lowry killing us! :o
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 09:08:30 PM
No scola and celts give up 28 - ugh
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 09:09:46 PM
No scola and celts give up 28 - ugh

Rockets aways play hard, very well coached.

Even if they started 5 scrubs they would still probably be leading this game.

Rockets can hang for 3 and a half quarters, your going to beat them in 4th quarter execution.

Rockets live on the Perimeter, we need to up our defense there if we want to win this game, if not were going to get blown out.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 09:10:59 PM
No scola and celts give up 28 - ugh

well in all fairness, the rockets are shooting the lights out, especially Lowry, and Hayes made some totally lucky shots
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 18, 2011, 09:11:29 PM
Anybody remembering Celtics D?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: tgreanier on March 18, 2011, 09:11:40 PM
yes but chicago is getting owned by indiana :D
Title: Point Guards
Post by: missyP on March 18, 2011, 09:12:00 PM
What is it with opposing point guards playing like all stars against us lately? Lowry really? I was actually happy Brooks isn't there so we dominate that position...
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 09:12:33 PM
No scola and celts give up 28 - ugh

well in all fairness, the rockets are shooting the lights out, especially Lowry, and Hayes made some totally lucky shots

I don't think lowery was defended on any shot he took
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: celticinorlando on March 18, 2011, 09:12:58 PM
Another slow start...no defense at all....letting that smurf lowry own them
Title: Re: Point Guards
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 09:13:19 PM
What is it with opposing point guards playing like all stars against us lately? Lowry really? I was actually happy Brooks isn't there so we dominate that position...

Brooks is totally overrated, Lowry is a better player
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Fafnir on March 18, 2011, 09:13:32 PM
Another slow start...no defense at all....letting that smurf lowry own them
Lowry is a good player, better player than brooks is.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 18, 2011, 09:13:34 PM
Thank God BBD plays for the Celtics.

Murphy, OMG
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 09:14:13 PM
Murphy forgot how to dunk or what?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 09:14:31 PM
Another wide open three
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: The DarkPassenger on March 18, 2011, 09:15:14 PM
I wish we could somehow land Dragic. He'd be a solid guy behind Rondo and can play SG aside Rondo.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 09:15:27 PM
C's came to play tonight, Rockets are just a better team tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 09:15:51 PM
Horrendous
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 18, 2011, 09:15:52 PM
This is a nightmare.

And I knew it was coming..  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 09:17:02 PM
Terrible play.

Another loss, oh well as long as we get our starters rest for the playoffs is all that matters.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: IrishGreen on March 18, 2011, 09:18:20 PM
Absolute Pie...

Our back up Pg's are terrible at defending the perimeter.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on March 18, 2011, 09:18:42 PM
It's only the first half. Chill guys.

C's just need to keep it close right now.

Bench defense has to pick it up.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 09:18:50 PM
I dont get how the rockets are getting wide open 3's.

Rockets are perimeter focused team, im sure Doc knows that, yet our guys our struggling to guard the Rockets.

Age? or are we just coasting for now?
Title: Re: Point Guards
Post by: missyP on March 18, 2011, 09:19:00 PM
What is it with opposing point guards playing like all stars against us lately? Lowry really? I was actually happy Brooks isn't there so we dominate that position...

Brooks is totally overrated, Lowry is a better player

With the way Brooks single handedly shot us out of the game when the rockets came to boston earlier in the season?? But you could be right Houston management knows a lot about Lowry and Brooks and the proof is in the trade they made to move Brooks:)
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 09:19:04 PM
Terrible play.

Another loss, oh well as long as we get our starters rest for the playoffs is all that matters.

How can you already call this a loss?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Fafnir on March 18, 2011, 09:19:59 PM
Terrible play.

Another loss, oh well as long as we get our starters rest for the playoffs is all that matters.

How can you already call this a loss?
You can't make up 8 whole points in 30 minutes of game time, just too steep of a hill to climb.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 09:20:08 PM
Chicago came back and is probably going to beat the Pacers.

1st seed is our of the question most likely, we need to bench the starters until the playoffs or something.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Tenacious D on March 18, 2011, 09:20:46 PM
They are hitting 3's: 5 of 10. That's your differential.  Can they keep it up? Hope not. Another deep hole to crawl out of
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 09:21:22 PM
Were getting killed by Brad Miller, a guy who looks and plays older then the Big 3. ****.
Title: Re: Point Guards
Post by: The DarkPassenger on March 18, 2011, 09:21:24 PM
What is it with opposing point guards playing like all stars against us lately? Lowry really? I was actually happy Brooks isn't there so we dominate that position...

Brooks is totally overrated, Lowry is a better player

With the way Brooks single handedly shot us out of the game when the rockets came to boston earlier in the season?? But you could be right Houston management knows a lot about Lowry and Brooks and the proof is in the trade they made to move Brooks:)

Then Brooks faced us again with his new team the Suns and burned us again. I think he's a good PG, probably won't be elite or an all-star but good.  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: KCattheStripe on March 18, 2011, 09:21:40 PM
Terrible play.

Another loss, oh well as long as we get our starters rest for the playoffs is all that matters.

How can you already call this a loss?

Because he forgot this lesson:

(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhvrdl35Rn1qcq799o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 18, 2011, 09:21:51 PM
C's came to play tonight, Rockets are just a better team tonight.

As a Celtic fan, I should ask NBA League Pass for a special rate about half-season pass till the All-Star break: after that, C's games are almost useless to watch just like last year.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 09:22:59 PM
Rondo needs to be benched for a couple weeks, I just dont see what hes doing for this team right now.

He isnt penetrating, and hes bricking layups.
Title: Re: Point Guards
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 09:23:21 PM
What is it with opposing point guards playing like all stars against us lately? Lowry really? I was actually happy Brooks isn't there so we dominate that position...

Brooks is totally overrated, Lowry is a better player


u
With the way Brooks single handedly shot us out of the game when the rockets came to boston earlier in the season?? But you could be right Houston management knows a lot about Lowry and Brooks and the proof is in the trade they made to move Brooks:)

Then Brooks faced us again with his new team the Suns and burned us again. I think he's a good PG, probably won't be elite or an all-star but good.  ;D

unfortunately those are the only two good games Brooks has had all year. I know because he killed my fantasy team until I traded him.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: ejk3489 on March 18, 2011, 09:23:21 PM
2nd unit looked pretty awful out there...big turn around from the Pacers game.

Then again the starters didn't look too good either.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 09:23:29 PM
Terrible play.

Another loss, oh well as long as we get our starters rest for the playoffs is all that matters.

HAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH!!!

How can you already call this a loss?

Because he forgot this lesson:

(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhvrdl35Rn1qcq799o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 09:23:35 PM
Wow. Heat demolishing hawks in Atlanta. Rondo still does not look good.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: ejk3489 on March 18, 2011, 09:24:39 PM
Rondo needs to be benched for a couple weeks, I just dont see what hes doing for this team right now.

He isnt penetrating, and hes bricking layups.

What are you talking about? Is attempting layups not penetrating or am I missing something here.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 09:25:15 PM
Where is the d?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on March 18, 2011, 09:25:16 PM
Wow. Heat demolishing hawks in Atlanta. Rondo still does not look good.

Hawks seem to be in a free fall right now. They've lost 5 out of 7.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 09:25:22 PM
Terrible play.

Another loss, oh well as long as we get our starters rest for the playoffs is all that matters.

How can you already call this a loss?

I dont know, I just call it out of experience of watching this team play.

We dont tend to come back from being down much. Usually when the C's get down big early, its because they dont care and didnt come to play, and they usually lose those games.

This game is right up that alley, although its magnified because the Rockets are draining 3's.

Think about it, when is the last time this team has come back from a game where they got down by 10-13 early.

I dont remember one all year or last year.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on March 18, 2011, 09:27:02 PM
They need to get this thing under 10 at the half.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 09:27:17 PM
Can't wait for back to back tomorrow night.   ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: outcry on March 18, 2011, 09:27:21 PM
This team is just bored and tired. Bring the playoffs on already.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 09:28:21 PM
"I got killed with the breeze" wow, even Tommy is off tonight
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 09:28:28 PM
Sorry guys for the negativity, but I just dont think the C's can win this game, they are too old to come back against being down this much against a team bombing 3's.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 09:28:37 PM
Celts look like they are playing for the third seed - lol.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 18, 2011, 09:29:00 PM
Just don't want to play any defense whatsoever.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 09:29:07 PM
Is tommorow a back to back? We have a 35% chance to win that game no matter the opponent based on our record...
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 18, 2011, 09:29:40 PM
Team just refuses to drive to the hoop.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Drucci on March 18, 2011, 09:30:01 PM
Embarrassing.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: missyP on March 18, 2011, 09:30:06 PM
Can't wait for back to back tomorrow night.   ::)

I hope this is tongue-in-cheek based on our record on back to backs. For some strange reason I feel like the rockets can not sustain this efficient play for 48min, it is just too good.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Defense on March 18, 2011, 09:30:19 PM
Game over. Still only a half game behind Chicago at least :-\
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: LilRip on March 18, 2011, 09:30:37 PM
what. is. happening?? o_O where's Pierce? bring us back Pierce!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 09:30:42 PM
if KG doesn't like the trash talk then he should step up his play on the court
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 09:31:37 PM
Game over. Still only a half game behind Chicago at least :-\

chicago is only down by 2 right now to the pacers
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: zerophase on March 18, 2011, 09:32:00 PM
Terrible play.

Another loss, oh well as long as we get our starters rest for the playoffs is all that matters.

How can you already call this a loss?

Because he forgot this lesson:

(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhvrdl35Rn1qcq799o1_500.jpg)

TP for mocking Mega. His negativity towards the celtics as a celtics fan is extremely annoying.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 09:33:01 PM
This team is either

a) too old and tired
b) coasting

Those are the only options.

If we are destined for the 2nd or 3rd seed, why wont we just bench our starters for a couple weeks and bring them back at the end of the regular season to get their rhythm?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: tgreanier on March 18, 2011, 09:33:08 PM
Game over. Still only a half game behind Chicago at least :-\

chicago is only down by 2 right now to the pacers

Anything is posssiiiibbbblllleeee!!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Tenacious D on March 18, 2011, 09:33:08 PM
Wow. Heat demolishing hawks in Atlanta.

Atl dont have anyone who handle handle Bron/Wade on the wing.  Which is why they are a contender.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 09:33:52 PM
bye bye Baby
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: ejk3489 on March 18, 2011, 09:34:03 PM
This is quickly reminding me of the Phoenix game.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Tenacious D on March 18, 2011, 09:34:19 PM
Quote from: Megatron lik=topic=45764.msg951659#msg951659 date=1300498381

If we are destined for the 2nd or 3rd seed, why wont we just bench our starters for a couple weeks and bring them back at the end of the regular season to get their rhythm?
May happen yet.  Doc wont hesitate if needs to.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 18, 2011, 09:34:59 PM
This team should just get off the court. Embarrassing themselves.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 09:35:03 PM
wow, KG got shut down
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Roy H. on March 18, 2011, 09:35:16 PM
What's this team missing?  A defensive identity?  Passion?  Chemistry?  Rebounding?  Even efficient offense?

(http://www.celticstown.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/kendrick-perkins-thunder-500x358.jpg)

Perk says hello.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on March 18, 2011, 09:35:33 PM
C's are losing their composure.  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: rondohondo on March 18, 2011, 09:35:41 PM
CALLING IT NOW!

C's will win this game ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: LilRip on March 18, 2011, 09:35:56 PM
weird thing to say but i want to see this chippiness. the C's have gotta up their intensity on D!!! cmon Baby! cmon KG!
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: The DarkPassenger on March 18, 2011, 09:36:06 PM
Okay this is going to get ugly. UFC match? Celtics Vs Rockets? Who's got the tale of the tape.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: tgreanier on March 18, 2011, 09:36:11 PM
Thank you Larry and Indiana. Good win.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 18, 2011, 09:36:14 PM
What's this team missing?  A defensive identity?

(http://www.celticstown.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/kendrick-perkins-thunder-500x358.jpg)

Perk says hello.

Yep, Perk would really make those 3 point shooters think twice!
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 09:36:18 PM
This team right now looks exactly like last year's. Hopefully they can turn it around in the playoffs.  This is brutal.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: ejk3489 on March 18, 2011, 09:36:34 PM
Well Bulls lost, so there's that...
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: zerophase on March 18, 2011, 09:36:53 PM
This team is getting the most ridiculous calls. Time for ref conspiracies?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 18, 2011, 09:37:16 PM
This team should be ashamed of themselves.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: PosImpos on March 18, 2011, 09:37:32 PM
yay 2 seed.

3 seed?

meh.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Roy H. on March 18, 2011, 09:37:42 PM
This team right now looks exactly like last year's. Hopefully they can turn it around in the playoffs.  This is brutal.

The key difference, of course, being that last year's team knew how to play with each other.  This year's, not so much.

I look forward to Green and Krstic being asked to fit into an elite-level defense in the playoffs, when they haven't seen it all year.  That ought to be fun.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: KCattheStripe on March 18, 2011, 09:37:42 PM
What's this team missing?  A defensive identity?  Passion?  Chemistry?  Rebounding?  Even efficient offense?

(http://www.celticstown.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/kendrick-perkins-thunder-500x358.jpg)

Perk says hello.

HI PERK!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE1nbWyyEZo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE1nbWyyEZo)


 ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 09:37:54 PM
weird thing to say but i want to see this chippiness. the C's have gotta up their intensity on D!!! cmon Baby! cmon KG!


I like it too, it's about time they show some intensity
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 18, 2011, 09:38:11 PM
Tommy enough is enough. This hardly has anything to do with the officals. How about we talk about the team and its terrible play for once?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: houseonfire09 on March 18, 2011, 09:38:21 PM
Well Bulls lost, so there's that...
No they didn't, Rose just got bailed out trying to shoot a 3, and made all the FTs.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Roy H. on March 18, 2011, 09:39:08 PM
What's this team missing?  A defensive identity?  Passion?  Chemistry?  Rebounding?  Even efficient offense?

(http://www.celticstown.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/kendrick-perkins-thunder-500x358.jpg)

Perk says hello.

HI PERK!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE1nbWyyEZo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE1nbWyyEZo)


 ;D

Haha.  Well played.

The difference between Perk on that play, and the our guys tonight?  Perk actually contested a shot.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: ejk3489 on March 18, 2011, 09:39:44 PM
Well Bulls lost, so there's that...
No they didn't, Rose just got bailed out trying to shoot a 3, and made all the FTs.

Yeah spoke too soon.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 18, 2011, 09:40:01 PM
The thing is: if you're wearing the Boston Celtics jersey, you just can't go take a walk in arenas and getting outplayed by anybody. It's just offensive for fans.

What I'm looking here is just tons of crap, period.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: zerophase on March 18, 2011, 09:40:05 PM
Tommy enough is enough. This hardly has anything to do with the officals. How about we talk about the team and its terrible play for once?

are you kidding? THIS HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE REFS. these calls are ridiculous.
Title: Random question!!
Post by: missyP on March 18, 2011, 09:40:17 PM
if a team walks out of a game and go home for whatever reason Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ty referring, what is the Stern penalty?

because I propose some move profound like that.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 18, 2011, 09:40:28 PM
Rondo just stay in the locker room.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: outcry on March 18, 2011, 09:40:39 PM
Are we playing Orlando right now?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: tgreanier on March 18, 2011, 09:40:46 PM
Well Bulls lost, so there's that...
No they didn't, Rose just got bailed out trying to shoot a 3, and made all the FTs.

an unbelievable act of corruption. my god.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Roy H. on March 18, 2011, 09:41:13 PM
Tommy enough is enough. This hardly has anything to do with the officals. How about we talk about the team and its terrible play for once?

are you kidding? THIS HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE REFS. these calls are ridiculous.

In a perfectly officiated game, the Celts would still be down by double digits.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 09:41:34 PM
Tommy enough is enough. This hardly has anything to do with the officals. How about we talk about the team and its terrible play for once?

are you kidding? THIS HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE REFS. these calls are ridiculous.

Please. Celts are horrendous right now
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: LilRip on March 18, 2011, 09:42:17 PM
will the C's win this game? Rockets are lights out from long range
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: ejk3489 on March 18, 2011, 09:42:48 PM
LOL Rondo is the last of the Celtics problems right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: KCattheStripe on March 18, 2011, 09:43:15 PM
What's this team missing?  A defensive identity?  Passion?  Chemistry?  Rebounding?  Even efficient offense?

(http://www.celticstown.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/kendrick-perkins-thunder-500x358.jpg)

Perk says hello.

HI PERK!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE1nbWyyEZo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE1nbWyyEZo)


 ;D

Haha.  Well played.

The difference between Perk on that play, and the our guys tonight?  Perk actually contested a shot.


You know how many people close out 3 point shooters better than Perk?

(http://www.marrk.nl/marrk/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/dsc_0009.jpg)

BTW that was a google image search for " A lot of people".
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 09:43:25 PM
After tonight, 15 games before the playoffs to try to get these guys o know how to play together.  :o
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: jdz101 on March 18, 2011, 09:43:37 PM
That technical on Baby was Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ing ridiculous.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 18, 2011, 09:43:53 PM
Tommy enough is enough. This hardly has anything to do with the officals. How about we talk about the team and its terrible play for once?

are you kidding? THIS HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE REFS. these calls are ridiculous.

Sure, refs..  ::)

Some thoughts about the brutal playing of our heroes?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Drucci on March 18, 2011, 09:43:56 PM
As bad as our defense has been, the Rockets (and Lowry especially) have hit some incredible lucky shots... frustrating, adds salt to the pain.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on March 18, 2011, 09:44:49 PM
Offense has been lackluster a while now. If the defense isn't there this is what we have.

I wasn't looking forward to this road trip.  :(
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 09:45:10 PM
Okc certainly not missing green and krstic.  One loss since the trade
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Roy H. on March 18, 2011, 09:45:29 PM
After tonight, 15 games before the playoffs to try to get these guys o know how to play together.  :o

Is it really only 15?  Ouch.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 09:45:36 PM
That technical on Baby was ****ing ridiculous.

Baby's lucky he didn't get tossed, he went after a player after the play was over
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: The DarkPassenger on March 18, 2011, 09:45:53 PM
while the refs aren't helping the situation it's the Celtics defense that is killing them right now. It's almost like they forget that the 3pt line exists and let the Rockets shoot open shot after open shot... that has got to change for us to turn this game around in the 2nd half.

For those who have given up you can catch the end of Fringe on Fox...  ;D   (East coast people anyway)
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: tgreanier on March 18, 2011, 09:46:11 PM
odd. i thought there was a celtics game on tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: P2 on March 18, 2011, 09:46:54 PM
OK, Houston has more rebounds, assists, blocks, steals, and less turnovers than us. They are hitting threes, and we're getting hosed by the refs. We are going much more to the bucket, yet they have 5 more FTA's than us.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Roy H. on March 18, 2011, 09:47:37 PM
odd. i thought there was a celtics game on tonight.

Sadly, they let the Red Claws wear their uniforms for the evening.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: jdz101 on March 18, 2011, 09:48:07 PM
That technical on Baby was ****ing ridiculous.

Baby's lucky he didn't get tossed, he went after a player after the play was over

Jordan Hill is lucky he didn't get caught. That was a blatant push in the back.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: tgreanier on March 18, 2011, 09:48:39 PM
pacers!
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: LilRip on March 18, 2011, 09:49:02 PM
As bad as our defense has been, the Rockets (and Lowry especially) have hit some incredible lucky shots... frustrating, adds salt to the pain.

yes, true. but you tend to hit lucky shots after you get yourself going with some wide open looks. just frustrating right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: ejk3489 on March 18, 2011, 09:49:18 PM
Okc certainly not missing green and krstic.  One loss since the trade

They've had three losses since the trade against Orlando, Lakers, and Memphis. Didn't have Perk for any of those game though...
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 09:50:33 PM
That technical on Baby was ****ing ridiculous.

Baby's lucky he didn't get tossed, he went after a player after the play was over

Jordan Hill is lucky he didn't get caught. That was a blatant push in the back.

That's right, but that is a foul, nothing more. You shouldn't charge the guy after stuff like that. The celtics want to act tough, but they always lose composure when teams fight back, which is pretty sad imo.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on March 18, 2011, 09:51:04 PM
If the C's can't make any headway in the 3rd I hope Doc just calls it a game and rests the starters. C's gonna need all the rest they can get tomorrow. Here's lookin' at you Rondo.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 09:53:56 PM
If the C's can't make any headway in the 3rd I hope Doc just calls it a game and rests the starters. C's gonna need all the rest they can get tomorrow. Here's lookin' are you Rondo.

I already penciled in tomorrow as a loss regardless of what happens tonight. They lost the last back to back even though all the starters played less than 30 minutes the first night.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: celticinorlando on March 18, 2011, 09:55:34 PM
well...looking like back to back losses to start this roadie...awesome
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 18, 2011, 09:55:44 PM
22 points down at halftime.

This is unacceptable. I hope Danny Ainge is gonna say "excuse us" after the game.
Crap effort, bored faces.. Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. this Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.!

Sorry guys, I'm really p---ed off.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Tai on March 18, 2011, 09:56:12 PM
If the C's can't make any headway in the 3rd I hope Doc just calls it a game and rests the starters. C's gonna need all the rest they can get tomorrow. Here's lookin' are you Rondo.

I already penciled in tomorrow as a loss regardless of what happens tonight. They lost the last back to back even though all the starters played less than 30 minutes the first night.

And lemme guess, you'll be the first one around if we win, right?  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Roy H. on March 18, 2011, 09:56:47 PM
22 points down at halftime.

This is unacceptable. I hope Danny Ainge is gonna say "excuse us" after the game.
Crap effort, bored faces.. **** this ****!

Sorry guys, I'm really p---ed off.

We all feel the same way, but please watch the profanity.  It's a no no, even when caught by the filter.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 09:57:26 PM
^^^^^


In response to tai
Appreciate the insult. Thanks.  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: celticinorlando on March 18, 2011, 09:57:57 PM
at least the bulls lost to the pacers
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: slamtheking on March 18, 2011, 09:58:44 PM
C's looked like absolute crap in that second quarter with the refs helping them down the crapper and here they come out in the 3rd quarter continuing to shovel the same old crap thinking things will be different   >:(
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 09:58:52 PM
at least the bulls lost to the pacers

Thank god the bulls stink on the road.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 18, 2011, 09:59:04 PM
If the C's can't make any headway in the 3rd I hope Doc just calls it a game and rests the starters. C's gonna need all the rest they can get tomorrow. Here's lookin' at you Rondo.

Why, are you expecting something more tomorrow night?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Tai on March 18, 2011, 09:59:10 PM
well...looking like back to back losses to start this roadie...awesome

And I guess you'll be the second guy around if the Celtics win tomorrow....
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: P2 on March 18, 2011, 09:59:44 PM
at least the bulls lost to the pacers

And we should've won this one to take over 1st again. But we will have 20 losses by the end of tomorrow.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: slamtheking on March 18, 2011, 09:59:50 PM
this is just abysmal.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: celticinorlando on March 18, 2011, 10:00:03 PM
i thought this was an important road trip...players all said so...wish they played like it...

sure will...i am always around...win or lose
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Roy H. on March 18, 2011, 10:00:04 PM
at least the bulls lost to the pacers

Thank god the bulls stink on the road.

Of course, if they play the Celtics in the playoffs, they'll only have to win their four home games to advance.  :P
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 10:00:12 PM
Nice defense
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: slamtheking on March 18, 2011, 10:01:39 PM
hey, a little life finally.  refs still suck as they're showing on the replay.  3-4 hits on Ray after the steal until the whistle was blown.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Drucci on March 18, 2011, 10:02:09 PM
Let's see if we can make a run here. At least we look more focused.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: PosImpos on March 18, 2011, 10:02:12 PM
at least the bulls lost to the pacers

Thank god the bulls stink on the road.

too bad they'll have HCA if we face them in the playoffs (and at this rate, miami might, too).

with 20 games left in the season i was sure the celtics were going to go no worse than 15-5 and finish with 61 wins.  At this rate, I'm expecting something more in the order of 56-57 wins.

i guess we had to expect this group to get tired of the regular season at some point, especially with all of the injuries they've dealt with and the morale disrupting trade.  i had hoped that the infusion of youth (green, delonte, nenad, wafer, baby's increased role) would help them stay focused, but I guess not.

finally, i really hope Rondo is okay, cause if he keeps playing like this there's no question that we won't be able to get past the Heat, the Bulls, or even the Magic.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on March 18, 2011, 10:02:15 PM
If the C's can't make any headway in the 3rd I hope Doc just calls it a game and rests the starters. C's gonna need all the rest they can get tomorrow. Here's lookin' at you Rondo.

Why, are you expecting something more tomorrow night?

I didn't expect them to get down 20 points that's for sure.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: celticinorlando on March 18, 2011, 10:03:11 PM
this is disappointing to say the least...
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: zerophase on March 18, 2011, 10:03:16 PM
If the C's can't make any headway in the 3rd I hope Doc just calls it a game and rests the starters. C's gonna need all the rest they can get tomorrow. Here's lookin' at you Rondo.

Why, are you expecting something more tomorrow night?

I didn't expect them to get down 20 points that's for sure.

I'm not sure Rondo can contain CP3 right now though...
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: ejk3489 on March 18, 2011, 10:03:49 PM
Celtics record on the road: 19-12
Bulls record on the road: 19-15

Are we really that much better on the road than them? And considering some of you are already counting tonight as a loss and tomorrow, we'll pretty much have the same road record.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 10:04:56 PM
Celtics record on the road: 19-12
Bulls record on the road: 19-15

Are we really that much better on the road than them? And considering some of you are already counting tonight as a loss and tomorrow, we'll pretty much have the same road record.

Good point.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: celticinorlando on March 18, 2011, 10:05:53 PM
celtics are playing abysmal basketball right now. just brutal to watch
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: zerophase on March 18, 2011, 10:06:06 PM
Why can't Rondo make layups ever... jeez.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 10:06:20 PM
Rondo a sweet 2-10 tonight.  He looks horrible and Garnett is totally uncomposed tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 18, 2011, 10:07:03 PM
getting ridiculous.

Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: PosImpos on March 18, 2011, 10:07:15 PM
Why can't Rondo make layups ever... jeez.

he's playing at like . . . 40% or something right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on March 18, 2011, 10:07:26 PM
If the C's can't make any headway in the 3rd I hope Doc just calls it a game and rests the starters. C's gonna need all the rest they can get tomorrow. Here's lookin' at you Rondo.

Why, are you expecting something more tomorrow night?

I didn't expect them to get down 20 points that's for sure.

I'm not sure Rondo can contain CP3 right now though...

I'm not sure he can contain many point guards right now. Dude's hurt, he's a step slower.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: LilRip on March 18, 2011, 10:07:35 PM
can't get anything going right now..
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: get_banners on March 18, 2011, 10:07:50 PM
the starters have been in a funk for a while now. i'd play the 2nd unit for most of the rest of the game.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: P2 on March 18, 2011, 10:08:03 PM
This team seems so disinterested. OK, good luck playing Miami and then Chicago! But no problem, Shaq will turn it around with his return! This team is just pitiful.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: celticinorlando on March 18, 2011, 10:08:19 PM
Why can't Rondo make layups ever... jeez.

he's playing at like . . . 40% or something right now.

then sit him
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Roy H. on March 18, 2011, 10:08:28 PM
Rondo a sweet 2-10 tonight.  He looks horrible and Garnett is totally uncomposed tonight.

New plan:  forfeit the remaining 15 games, and spend the remainder of the season resting and practicing. 

It will make us stronger for the playoffs, and since "the future" is so important, it will get us a better draft pick.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: slamtheking on March 18, 2011, 10:09:03 PM
Why can't Rondo make layups ever... jeez.
It looks like he's become infatuated with spinning the ball in instead of just making a straight layup.  for a while, those were going in but it's been a loooong time since he made those with regularity
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: ejk3489 on March 18, 2011, 10:09:24 PM
Rondo's shooting doesn't really worry me that much. At least he's trying to go to the hole...he's just missing point blank lay-ups that he usually makes.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 10:09:31 PM
So rondo is hurt yet they still play him?  Meanwhile, everyone else sits out with a hangnail.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Drucci on March 18, 2011, 10:10:22 PM
I don't see Rondo being hurt, I just see him making terrible decisions, missing easy layups and not attacking much. It's all mental to me and about 10% fatigue.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Defense on March 18, 2011, 10:10:28 PM
This is literally turning into a repeat of last season. Why would anyone want to watch a repeat of last season?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: slamtheking on March 18, 2011, 10:10:39 PM
Rondo a sweet 2-10 tonight.  He looks horrible and Garnett is totally uncomposed tonight.

New plan:  forfeit the remaining 15 games, and spend the remainder of the season resting and practicing. 

It will make us stronger for the playoffs, and since "the future" is so important, it will get us a better draft pick.
can't tell if your sarcasm is directed at Vinnie or at you well-known dislike for the trade.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: celticinorlando on March 18, 2011, 10:10:49 PM
Rondo a sweet 2-10 tonight.  He looks horrible and Garnett is totally uncomposed tonight.

New plan:  forfeit the remaining 15 games, and spend the remainder of the season resting and practicing. 

It will make us stronger for the playoffs, and since "the future" is so important, it will get us a better draft pick.

kind of feels like they are already doing that
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: celticinorlando on March 18, 2011, 10:11:43 PM
this game was over when the let kyle lowry go off in the first quarter...
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 10:12:09 PM
Worst defense of the year.  Rondo has no interest.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 18, 2011, 10:12:26 PM
this is gonna end with a 40 points loss.

Thank you thank you thank you.



Banner 18, uh? Sure, it's coming..  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: TheTruth34 on March 18, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
This team is really embarrassing themselves right now.  And why does Rondo have more shots than Pierce and Allen combined?  
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Errn on March 18, 2011, 10:13:12 PM
Can't watch the game right now.

I can see that the starters have had way too many minutes. Why is Doc doing this?

The second unit needs to play!!
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: zerophase on March 18, 2011, 10:13:17 PM
Doc really needs to sit Rondo for his own sake. This is painful to watch him play injured.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: jdz101 on March 18, 2011, 10:13:23 PM
Rays such a liability when he doesn't score....just jogs up and down the court...
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: guava_wrench on March 18, 2011, 10:13:35 PM
Tommy is dreadful tonight. KG intentionally shoulders Martin to retaliate for earlier foul on Baby and Tommy starts yelling. KG knocks over a guy to clear the lane for Rondo and Tommy yells again. Clueless.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 10:13:45 PM
Need to give Martin more open looks.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: The DarkPassenger on March 18, 2011, 10:13:52 PM
Okay so now this is decision time for Doc.

A. Still try to get back into the game

B. Live to play another day since it seems that some are playing "hurt" and the starters could really use some rest

I vote B.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Roy H. on March 18, 2011, 10:13:57 PM
Rondo a sweet 2-10 tonight.  He looks horrible and Garnett is totally uncomposed tonight.

New plan:  forfeit the remaining 15 games, and spend the remainder of the season resting and practicing. 

It will make us stronger for the playoffs, and since "the future" is so important, it will get us a better draft pick.

kind of feels like they are already doing that

... except we're sending out an obviously-not-right Rondo every game.  I don't get it.  If we're going to play games with no effort or heart, why insist on playing your banged up stars?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: zerophase on March 18, 2011, 10:14:18 PM
Doc should just take out the starters and give the bench free reign.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on March 18, 2011, 10:15:14 PM
Game's over. Bench time

Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 10:15:25 PM
This is disgraceful.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: PosImpos on March 18, 2011, 10:15:25 PM
Doc really needs to sit Rondo for his own sake. This is painful to watch him play injured.

yeah . . . if necessary, sit him the rest of the season.  with delonte starting it's possible we could still hold on to the #2 seed
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Drucci on March 18, 2011, 10:15:28 PM
Rondo is pathetic, he should be benched for many games for his attitude.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: zerophase on March 18, 2011, 10:16:21 PM
Pierce has given up on the game... He has started to shoot long jump shots.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: ejk3489 on March 18, 2011, 10:16:27 PM
Rondo is pathetic, he should be benched for many games for his attitude.

What attitude? I'm assuming this doesn't apply to the Big 3 who are also playing horrible.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: rondohondo on March 18, 2011, 10:16:29 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 18, 2011, 10:16:34 PM
Doc really needs to sit Rondo for his own sake. This is painful to watch him play injured.

He's not injured.

If he was Doc wouldn't let him on the floor with 27 points down and a sure loss.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: outcry on March 18, 2011, 10:17:10 PM
It's extremely obvious they're not trying hard tonight because of the back-to-back. They're playing at 50 percent right now. I guess that's fine considering the playoffs are coming up, but this will probably be the last game I watch until the playoffs.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 10:17:21 PM
Doc really needs to sit Rondo for his own sake. This is painful to watch him play injured.

yeah . . . if necessary, sit him the rest of the season.  with delonte starting it's possible we could still hold on to the #2 seed

If rondo sits rest of year, the 3 seed will almost be guranteed, as will having a worse record than the lakers and dallas.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: celticinorlando on March 18, 2011, 10:17:29 PM
very frustrating watching this team right now. just makes me want to gouge my eyes out. rondo has been playing like a scrub lately..hurt or not..if he is hurt sit down...but this is just embarrassing
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Roy H. on March 18, 2011, 10:17:32 PM
Doc really needs to sit Rondo for his own sake. This is painful to watch him play injured.

He's not injured.

If he was Doc wouldn't let him on the floor with 27 points down and a sure loss.

Both KG and Rondo himself said he was injured.  I'm not sure if that's an excuse to save face or not, but something's obviously off with the kid.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: rondohondo on March 18, 2011, 10:17:34 PM
CALLING IT NOW!

C's will win this game ;)
::)
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: butterbeanlove on March 18, 2011, 10:18:06 PM
This team seems so disinterested. OK, good luck playing Miami and then Chicago! But no problem, Shaq will turn it around with his return! This team is just pitiful.

We're all deluding ourselves if we think this team is just coasting a la last year (although I get your sarcasm).

Nobody can deny the team's body language over the last three weeks. They know it's not happening.

Oh yeah, Shaq. Well, we'll see.

My other question is: why trade Semih for nothing? Couldn't we have used another 7-footer who could defend? Oh wait, JO to the rescue.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Drucci on March 18, 2011, 10:18:38 PM
Rondo is pathetic, he should be benched for many games for his attitude.

What attitude? I'm assuming this doesn't apply to the Big 3 who are also playing horrible.

His "I'm walking the ball up every time and either dishing it to get away from any play, standing still, or hogging to it till the end of the shot clock", or the fact he doesn't even try to chase Martin through screens and litterally walks on defense, the fact he is not giving a 10% effort... it's ridiculous, he is supposed to be our leader and he has mailed it in completely.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: celticinorlando on March 18, 2011, 10:18:43 PM
Doc really needs to sit Rondo for his own sake. This is painful to watch him play injured.

yeah . . . if necessary, sit him the rest of the season.  with delonte starting it's possible we could still hold on to the #2 seed

If rondo sits rest of year, the 3 seed will almost be guranteed, as will having a worse record than the lakers and dallas.

they might be the 3 seed no matter what they do...they are going under fast
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: ejk3489 on March 18, 2011, 10:18:57 PM
Doc really needs to sit Rondo for his own sake. This is painful to watch him play injured.

He's not injured.

If he was Doc wouldn't let him on the floor with 27 points down and a sure loss.

Yeah, he's injured. Plantar faciitis doesn't just go away.
Title: We are not indomitable
Post by: missyP on March 18, 2011, 10:19:02 PM
But I wonder is a win like this says anything about the Rockets if you are a fan of theirs rather than the Celtics played badly and they shot with precision.

Rondo should be resting by now because this game needs less finding shooter (his strength) more than it needs scoring. Just go with anyone who can put the ball in the hoop(without spinning it), or complete a payup.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: jdz101 on March 18, 2011, 10:19:29 PM
That was the most pathetic 3 quarters of basketball ive ever seen.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Defense on March 18, 2011, 10:19:34 PM
Funny that Ray can claim he's "all about consistency" with a straight face.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 10:19:46 PM
Pierce has gone into 2002 mode
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: sportsfreak on March 18, 2011, 10:20:08 PM
The Rockets did play well today, and i don't want to blame another loss on the refs, or conspiracy theories but Stern makes more money with Boston vs Miami in the 2nd round than boston vs. Orlando and Chi vs Mia.?

Back to Back tomorrow is going to be hard to watch.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: celticinorlando on March 18, 2011, 10:20:32 PM
PP said this is a very important road trip...i guess not
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 18, 2011, 10:20:54 PM
It's extremely obvious they're not trying hard tonight because of the back-to-back. They're playing at 50 percent right now. I guess that's fine considering the playoffs are coming up, but this will probably be the last game I watch until the playoffs.

I don't know about you, but I feel p---ed off and offended as a Celtics fan.

And after all, what's the point in getting embarassed in the first game of a back-to-back? To make sure to lose them both?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: dasani on March 18, 2011, 10:21:05 PM
seems like we are mailing this one in to focus on tomorrow right? jeez I hope so. we look like Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline..
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: ejk3489 on March 18, 2011, 10:22:01 PM
Rondo is pathetic, he should be benched for many games for his attitude.

What attitude? I'm assuming this doesn't apply to the Big 3 who are also playing horrible.

His "I'm walking the ball up every time and either dishing it to get away from any play, standing still, or hogging to it till the end of the shot clock", or the fact he doesn't even try to chase Martin through screens and litterally walks on defense, the fact he is not giving a 10% effort... it's ridiculous, he is supposed to be our leader and he has mailed it in completely.

Ok, well I could say the same thing about Pierce, Ray, or Garnetts effort tonight but I don't see anyone questioning their attitude. It's pretty clear that Rondo is not 100%.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: The DarkPassenger on March 18, 2011, 10:22:07 PM
Doc really needs to sit Rondo for his own sake. This is painful to watch him play injured.

He's not injured.

If he was Doc wouldn't let him on the floor with 27 points down and a sure loss.

Both KG and Rondo himself said he was injured.  I'm not sure if that's an excuse to save face or not, but something's obviously off with the kid.

Plus Celtics might not be too up front about all injuries and they shouldn't be. Strange that a few days after being traded to OKC Nate goes in for surgery on his knee, and most of us were wondering why he was so off for so long. If the C's advertise every single injury then it gives a competitive edge to the other team.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 10:22:16 PM
PP said this is a very important road trip...i guess not

Talk is definitely cheap.  Since the trade they have only played a few good games, even in many of the wins they have struggled.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: celticinorlando on March 18, 2011, 10:22:37 PM
excellent effort tonight celtics. appreciate it
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Gomesfan on March 18, 2011, 10:22:47 PM
I had to change the channel!!! I am watchig th  Last Samurai on HBO no, I couldn't deal with this pathetic performance!!
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Errn on March 18, 2011, 10:23:39 PM
This team seems so disinterested. OK, good luck playing Miami and then Chicago! But no problem, Shaq will turn it around with his return! This team is just pitiful.

We're all deluding ourselves if we think this team is just coasting a la last year (although I get your sarcasm).

Nobody can deny the team's body language over the last three weeks. They know it's not happening.

Oh yeah, Shaq. Well, we'll see.

My other question is: why trade Semih for nothing? Couldn't we have used another 7-footer who could defend? Oh wait, JO to the rescue.

Wow. I never thought of it this way, but this is entirely possible. What if the players know that Shaq and JO are not coming back? They know we're not going to get 18 this year.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Drucci on March 18, 2011, 10:23:41 PM
Rondo is pathetic, he should be benched for many games for his attitude.

What attitude? I'm assuming this doesn't apply to the Big 3 who are also playing horrible.

His "I'm walking the ball up every time and either dishing it to get away from any play, standing still, or hogging to it till the end of the shot clock", or the fact he doesn't even try to chase Martin through screens and litterally walks on defense, the fact he is not giving a 10% effort... it's ridiculous, he is supposed to be our leader and he has mailed it in completely.

Ok, well I could say the same thing about Pierce, Ray, or Garnetts effort tonight but I don't see anyone questioning their attitude. It's pretty clear that Rondo is not 100%.


Agreed on KG and Ray but no Pierce, he was the only one definitely p---ed at this result and tried to make things happen by driving to the hoop. And Rondo has been mailing it in for games, that's why I'm sick with him. And the alleged mysterious injury is an excuse for me, I don't think he is injured at all.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: celticinorlando on March 18, 2011, 10:23:46 PM
i am going to watch college hoops. can't wait until tomorrow :-\
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 18, 2011, 10:23:48 PM
seems like we are mailing this one in to focus on tomorrow right? jeez I hope so. we look like ****.

Nope, tomorrow night has nothing to do.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 10:24:27 PM
the cheerleader/mascot dunking off the trampoline was the highlight of the night hands down
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: TheTruth34 on March 18, 2011, 10:25:29 PM
Should have just sat the 'all-star' starters at the half.  I'd much rather see Delonte and the new guys (Green, Murphy, Kristic) get run and more familiar with the system in live action.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: outcry on March 18, 2011, 10:26:25 PM
It's extremely obvious they're not trying hard tonight because of the back-to-back. They're playing at 50 percent right now. I guess that's fine considering the playoffs are coming up, but this will probably be the last game I watch until the playoffs.

I don't know about you, but I feel p---ed off and offended as a Celtics fan.

And after all, what's the point in getting embarassed in the first game of a back-to-back? To make sure to lose them both?

They're pacing themselves. It's obvious. I'm not defending them but it is what it is. There's no reason for me to watch the rest of the season because we all know it's going to be like this down the stretch. I don't feel like being p---ed off and getting stressed out. I already feel that way with the Bruins at the moment.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 18, 2011, 10:26:37 PM
Playoff run like last year is not gonna happen.

They know that and we're starting to realize as well.

Shaq and JO? Gimme a break..
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: PosImpos on March 18, 2011, 10:27:15 PM
hard to feel confident about the post-season right now.  just like last season, early in the season i thought the celtics couldn't be beaten in a 7 game series; over the course of the season, that certainty has been eroded to the point where i have more confidence in at least 3 or 4 other teams.

this season we don't even have the comfort of the lakers looking worse towards the end to take the edge off.  the lakers look really good right now even with kobe not playing great.


the thought of watching the celtics play the 76ers or knicks in the first round is moderately horrifying right now.  either series would go for 6 or 7 games and tire the team out a lot.  
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: ejk3489 on March 18, 2011, 10:28:10 PM
Rondo is pathetic, he should be benched for many games for his attitude.

What attitude? I'm assuming this doesn't apply to the Big 3 who are also playing horrible.

His "I'm walking the ball up every time and either dishing it to get away from any play, standing still, or hogging to it till the end of the shot clock", or the fact he doesn't even try to chase Martin through screens and litterally walks on defense, the fact he is not giving a 10% effort... it's ridiculous, he is supposed to be our leader and he has mailed it in completely.

Ok, well I could say the same thing about Pierce, Ray, or Garnetts effort tonight but I don't see anyone questioning their attitude. It's pretty clear that Rondo is not 100%.


Agreed on KG and Ray but no Pierce, he was the only one definitely p---ed at this result and tried to make things happen by driving to the hoop. And Rondo has been mailing it in for games, that's why I'm sick with him. And the alleged mysterious injury is an excuse for me, I don't think he is injured at all.

Pierce shot 2-10, that's a bad shooting night no matter how you put it. He started out looking good, but did not look to drive to the hoop at all in the second half.

And there is no mysterious injury...it's well known that he has plantar fasciitis. Like I said in another post, that won't go away until the off season. Maybe it's just finally catching up to him. That, plus playing in the high 30s and low 40s minute wise with no capable back up all season.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Errn on March 18, 2011, 10:28:34 PM
Should have just sat the 'all-star' starters at the half.  I'd much rather see Delonte and the new guys (Green, Murphy, Kristic) get run and more familiar with the system in live action.

I don't understand why the 2nd unit wasn't playing more. Could it be that the whole team is hurt, and we play the people in order of salary?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 10:28:47 PM
that's it Glen, take it out on the fans
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Casperian on March 18, 2011, 10:29:09 PM
Baby´s the only one who came to play tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Redz on March 18, 2011, 10:29:17 PM
best comeback ever?  anyone?  anyone?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 10:29:58 PM
Brad Miller into the game at the right time, garbage time
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 10:30:05 PM
Rondo has taken the most shots tonight.  :o

Are we seeing a comeback here?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on March 18, 2011, 10:30:17 PM
It's extremely obvious they're not trying hard tonight because of the back-to-back. They're playing at 50 percent right now. I guess that's fine considering the playoffs are coming up, but this will probably be the last game I watch until the playoffs.

I don't know about you, but I feel p---ed off and offended as a Celtics fan.

And after all, what's the point in getting embarassed in the first game of a back-to-back? To make sure to lose them both?

They're pacing themselves. It's obvious. I'm not defending them but it is what it is. There's no reason for me to watch the rest of the season because we all know it's going to be like this down the stretch. I don't feel like being p---ed off and getting stressed out. I already feel that way with the Bruins at the moment.

I think they are pacing themselves as well. I'd hate to see the C's not have homecourt in the finals once again though. C's may very well be tied with them after tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Drucci on March 18, 2011, 10:30:19 PM
hard to feel confident about the post-season right now.  just like last season, early in the season i thought the celtics couldn't be beaten in a 7 game series; over the course of the season, that certainty has been eroded to the point where i have more confidence in at least 3 or 4 other teams.

this season we don't even have the comfort of the lakers looking worse towards the end to take the edge off.  the lakers look really good right now even with kobe not playing great.


the thought of watching the celtics play the 76ers or knicks in the first round is moderately horrifying right now.  either series would go for 6 or 7 games and tire the team out a lot.  

Oh come on, you're worried about the postseason because of a blowout loss agaisnt Houston in March?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Defense on March 18, 2011, 10:30:27 PM
Our second unit is better offensively and defensively than our starters. Bench our starters until they're either healthy or ready to hustle.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Redz on March 18, 2011, 10:30:49 PM
Brad Miller into the game at the right time, garbage time

This could get ugly (er)
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Spicoli on March 18, 2011, 10:31:09 PM
Big Baby is earning MAJOR props from me for his effort tonight. He is playing hard, diving for lose balls, even in a blowout....even when the starters mailed it in. I used to be down on him, but i think he's a keeper.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: zerophase on March 18, 2011, 10:32:01 PM
best comeback ever?  anyone?  anyone?

i'll start to believe once it gets down to 12-13. else, no.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: LilRip on March 18, 2011, 10:32:22 PM
if we get this down to 10 with 5minutes to go, we have a legit shot of winning. i haven't been the biggest BBD backers, but c'mon Baby!! will us back in with your energy and heart!
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: slamtheking on March 18, 2011, 10:33:10 PM
This team seems so disinterested. OK, good luck playing Miami and then Chicago! But no problem, Shaq will turn it around with his return! This team is just pitiful.

We're all deluding ourselves if we think this team is just coasting a la last year (although I get your sarcasm).

Nobody can deny the team's body language over the last three weeks. They know it's not happening.

Oh yeah, Shaq. Well, we'll see.

My other question is: why trade Semih for nothing? Couldn't we have used another 7-footer who could defend? Oh wait, JO to the rescue.

Wow. I never thought of it this way, but this is entirely possible. What if the players know that Shaq and JO are not coming back? They know we're not going to get 18 this year.
if that's the case, then Danny blew it at the trading deadline but I suspect he really had some solid insight that Shaq and JO will be back for the playoffs in order to justify trading Perk and Semih
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: jpurthe1 on March 18, 2011, 10:34:48 PM
All the starters played like Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.e as the irish say.

Nenad was foul trouble all game from the time it was 10 points for the C's.

KG was slow

Rondo was attrocious

Ray was sleepwalking

Pierce tried but was not on and his ole defense was not good enough.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Roy H. on March 18, 2011, 10:35:21 PM
if we get this down to 10 with 5minutes to go, we have a legit shot of winning.

Probably true, but since we're down 22 with 8:30 left, it's gonna be tough.  :-X
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 10:35:34 PM
Jeff green - invisible. Not blaming him for this horrendous effort, but just stating a fact
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 10:36:29 PM
Avery, the human white flag Bradley
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: slamtheking on March 18, 2011, 10:36:32 PM
well, at least the bench is trying.  not gaining any ground but they're at least trying.

overall, a completely crappy effort.  They just allowed the second quarter to turn into an absolute fiasco tonight
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: butterbeanlove on March 18, 2011, 10:36:49 PM
Playoff run like last year is not gonna happen.

They know that and we're starting to realize as well.

Shaq and JO? Gimme a break..

Yep

It makes me sick to admit it, but you can see it in their faces and in their body language. We're not fooling anybody, including ourselves.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: zerophase on March 18, 2011, 10:37:04 PM
Jeff green - invisible. Not blaming him for this horrendous effort, but just stating a fact

i was shocked to look at the box score and see he scored 11 pts, 2blks, 2rebounds. didn't notice it at all.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Frezz on March 18, 2011, 10:37:04 PM
Did anyone else catch Tommy drop the GD bomb earlier? Lol
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on March 18, 2011, 10:37:58 PM
Did anyone else catch Tommy drop the GD bomb earlier? Lol

Yea. haha
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: vinnie on March 18, 2011, 10:38:10 PM
Guess they were all just lying  when they said home court is important this year.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: The DarkPassenger on March 18, 2011, 10:38:20 PM
Avery, the human white flag Bradley

lol, agreed.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Redz on March 18, 2011, 10:38:32 PM
Did anyone else catch Tommy drop the GD bomb earlier? Lol

yup I did

Not buying Tommy's line of "This game is a lot more meaningful for Houston" though. 
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: ejk3489 on March 18, 2011, 10:38:57 PM
Playoff run like last year is not gonna happen.

They know that and we're starting to realize as well.

Shaq and JO? Gimme a break..

Yep

It makes me sick to admit it, but you can see it in their faces and in their body language. We're not fooling anybody, including ourselves.

People were posting the exact same things last year. I really don't understand how people can claim that this loss means anything to our title chances besides losing ground in the homecourt race.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: outcry on March 18, 2011, 10:39:11 PM
Kevin Martin should be in the WWE. He knows how to sell hits quite well.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on March 18, 2011, 10:39:11 PM
Guess they were all just lying  when they said home court is important this year.

I think that changed when the injuries started to mount.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: jpurthe1 on March 18, 2011, 10:39:20 PM
Laughing on these boards should be off limits when we lose by over 20 points. Just my opinion, I am fuming.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Errn on March 18, 2011, 10:39:38 PM
I am in shock just looking at the Gamecast. Bradley fouling on a three?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: LilRip on March 18, 2011, 10:39:50 PM
ok, signing out. terrible game. i really hope we fare better tomorrow.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 10:40:12 PM
Comeon guys, lets stop going nuts here.

C's arent trying, and wont be trying until the playoffs.

Doc needs to bench the starters for the rest of the season and bring them back a few games before the playoffs start.

Whats the point of having them out there running the risk of injury if they arent going to try anyways?

C's are clearly costing.

Wake me up when the playoffs start.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: dasani on March 18, 2011, 10:40:22 PM
Guess they were all just lying  when they said home court is important this year.


it was initially...until the "health"  ::) problems started. now "health" is more important.  
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Spicoli on March 18, 2011, 10:40:59 PM
I saw this loss coming from a mile away, but i always choose to watch anyway. These guys will lose to any team that plays 4 quarters with energy.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Errn on March 18, 2011, 10:41:22 PM
I am in shock just looking at the Gamecast. Bradley fouling on a three?
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Sorry. Gamecast error.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Yvette on March 18, 2011, 10:41:48 PM
1st seed, 2nd seed, 3rd seed ... I can't wait for the play-offs to begin....
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 10:41:52 PM
For the record, I called this game a loss when we went down by 8 in the first quarter and you guys laughed at me.

I know this team, I know their levels of play, and tonight they mailed it in the first quarter and I knew this was a loss from the start.

When this team comes out slow and gets down early 9 times out of 10 we lose that game.

Thats just the way it is. Bench may be able to bail out the starters once every 10 games, but usually if we get down early, it means the starters have mailed it in.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: PosImpos on March 18, 2011, 10:42:07 PM
hard to feel confident about the post-season right now.  just like last season, early in the season i thought the celtics couldn't be beaten in a 7 game series; over the course of the season, that certainty has been eroded to the point where i have more confidence in at least 3 or 4 other teams.

this season we don't even have the comfort of the lakers looking worse towards the end to take the edge off.  the lakers look really good right now even with kobe not playing great.


the thought of watching the celtics play the 76ers or knicks in the first round is moderately horrifying right now.  either series would go for 6 or 7 games and tire the team out a lot.  

Oh come on, you're worried about the postseason because of a blowout loss agaisnt Houston in March?

no.


im worried about the post-season because the celtics have been out of sorts basically since the all-star break and haven't looked dominant or even consistent for any significant stretch of time since then.  especially troubling is the fact that our "MVP", the "engine that stirs the drink" has been playing truly lousy for a long while now.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: outcry on March 18, 2011, 10:42:39 PM
Laughing on these boards should be off limits when we lose by over 20 points. Just my opinion, I am fuming.

Yea, how dare us laugh at some of the posters on here throwing in the towel when, in fact, this team is doing the EXACT same act as last year around this time? Actually, they started this act LONG before this point in the season last year. This team is old. They have to pace themselves or else they'll be burnt out come the second round of the playoffs.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Drucci on March 18, 2011, 10:43:08 PM
Can't believe I didn't go to sleep in order to watch the game, it's 3:42 am here and I don't know why I'm still watching. Oh well. Good night everybody, hopefully tomorrow's back to back won't be as bad and will be a win. Who knows?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: slamtheking on March 18, 2011, 10:43:29 PM
Laughing on these boards should be off limits when we lose by over 20 points. Just my opinion, I am fuming.
in Bird's days, these types of games would happen once or twice a year where they'd just absolutely stink up the joint and get pounded.  The consolation was that you knew Larry and gang would come the next game and just pound on the next team (and usually it would go on for a few games).  With this team, there just doesn't seem to be that level of pride in their game to come back from a game like this and just pound the opposition into submission.  Now, we're just hopeful they can occasionally win on the second night of a back-to-back. 

Ah Celtics Pride, how far it has fallen.   :(
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: lrybrd on March 18, 2011, 10:44:09 PM
The defense (or more appropriately lack thereof) is atrocious.  I mean can you show a little effort.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Errn on March 18, 2011, 10:44:53 PM
This is comical watching the play-by-play.

Avery Bradley steps out of bounds. Kevin Martin travelling.

Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: The DarkPassenger on March 18, 2011, 10:45:18 PM
Davis being your high scorer and being destroyed in the 3pt stat. Celtics are 1/9 right now. Not a good sign. Now I'm not bashing Davis (for once) I'm just saying that when you have the names you have on your team and a bench guy is your lead scorer, that's not good.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: PosImpos on March 18, 2011, 10:45:28 PM
Laughing on these boards should be off limits when we lose by over 20 points. Just my opinion, I am fuming.

Yea, how dare us laugh at some of the posters on here throwing in the towel when, in fact, this team is doing the EXACT same act as last year around this time? Actually, they started this act LONG before this point in the season last year. This team is old. They have to pace themselves or else they'll be burnt out come the second round of the playoffs.

here's the thing, though.  the celtics lost in the finals last season in large part because they checked out through large sections of the regular season.  home court advantage is HUGE in the playoffs, especially in the finals. 

if this team wants to win a championship, they are going to need HCA . . . or else they're going to need to be so good that they can win 3 or 4 straight games against their opponent (and they won't be if they've tired themselves out beating multiple teams on the road in the post-season).
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: slamtheking on March 18, 2011, 10:46:13 PM
Davis being your high scorer and being destroyed in the 3pt stat. Celtics are 1/9 right now. Not a good sign. Now I'm not bashing Davis (for once) I'm just saying that when you have the names you have on your team and a bench guy is your lead scorer, that's not good.
make that, the team's top 2 scorers in BBD and Green
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 10:46:23 PM
Davis being your high scorer and being destroyed in the 3pt stat. Celtics are 1/9 right now. Not a good sign. Now I'm not bashing Davis (for once) I'm just saying that when you have the names you have on your team and a bench guy is your lead scorer, that's not good.

C's mailed it in, they will also mail in tommorows game if history serves right.

Time to block this team out until the playoffs guys, only 15 more games though so we wont have to wait that long.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Adelaide Celt on March 18, 2011, 10:47:02 PM
Deliberately slept in so I wouldn't have to see this game. Painful enough just looking at the box score now :(
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: PosImpos on March 18, 2011, 10:47:27 PM
Davis being your high scorer and being destroyed in the 3pt stat. Celtics are 1/9 right now. Not a good sign. Now I'm not bashing Davis (for once) I'm just saying that when you have the names you have on your team and a bench guy is your lead scorer, that's not good.

C's mailed it in, they will also mail in tommorows game if history serves right.

Time to block this team out until the playoffs guys, only 15 more games though so we wont have to wait that long.

yeah, second night of a back to back against a playoff team . . . might as well not even watch tomorrow.

at least this team will probably finish with a few more wins than last year, for all the good that it will do them in the suddenly much stronger east.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Drucci on March 18, 2011, 10:48:17 PM
Laughing on these boards should be off limits when we lose by over 20 points. Just my opinion, I am fuming.

Yea, how dare us laugh at some of the posters on here throwing in the towel when, in fact, this team is doing the EXACT same act as last year around this time? Actually, they started this act LONG before this point in the season last year. This team is old. They have to pace themselves or else they'll be burnt out come the second round of the playoffs.

here's the thing, though.  the celtics lost in the finals last season in large part because they checked out through large sections of the regular season.  home court advantage is HUGE in the playoffs, especially in the finals. 

if this team wants to win a championship, they are going to need HCA . . . or else they're going to need to be so good that they can win 3 or 4 straight games against their opponent (and they won't be if they've tired themselves out beating multiple teams on the road in the post-season).

We lost HCA in almost every series since 2009 : against Chicago, against Orlando, against Cleveland after we stole it, against LA after we stole it... so I'm not sure it's that huge, I mean for almost every series in the past 2 years we had to go get HCA back by stealing a game on the opponent's homecourt and we did fine except against the Lakers.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 10:48:46 PM
Davis being your high scorer and being destroyed in the 3pt stat. Celtics are 1/9 right now. Not a good sign. Now I'm not bashing Davis (for once) I'm just saying that when you have the names you have on your team and a bench guy is your lead scorer, that's not good.

C's mailed it in, they will also mail in tommorows game if history serves right.

Time to block this team out until the playoffs guys, only 15 more games though so we wont have to wait that long.

yeah, second night of a back to back against a playoff team . . . might as well not even watch tomorrow.

at least this team will probably finish with a few more wins than last year, for all the good that it will do them in the suddenly much stronger east.

I'm pretty sure they will win tomorrow. It's just the way things go with this team
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: outcry on March 18, 2011, 10:48:54 PM
Laughing on these boards should be off limits when we lose by over 20 points. Just my opinion, I am fuming.

Yea, how dare us laugh at some of the posters on here throwing in the towel when, in fact, this team is doing the EXACT same act as last year around this time? Actually, they started this act LONG before this point in the season last year. This team is old. They have to pace themselves or else they'll be burnt out come the second round of the playoffs.

here's the thing, though.  the celtics lost in the finals last season in large part because they checked out through large sections of the regular season.  home court advantage is HUGE in the playoffs, especially in the finals. 

if this team wants to win a championship, they are going to need HCA . . . or else they're going to need to be so good that they can win 3 or 4 straight games against their opponent (and they won't be if they've tired themselves out beating multiple teams on the road in the post-season).

If they go all out and don't rest their players during this stretch they won't even make the finals. They'll be gone in either the second round or the ECF, especially if they go 7 games in either of the series. I'd rather them pace themselves and rest the old guys a bit.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 18, 2011, 10:49:05 PM
Can't believe I didn't go to sleep in order to watch the game, it's 3:42 am here and I don't know why I'm still watching. Oh well. Good night everybody, hopefully tomorrow's back to back won't be as bad and will be a win. Who knows?

Same here in Italy.

But tomorrow night I'm not gonna watch the game, and I probably won't 'till the end of RS. And I've watched them all so far.

Goodnight.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: The DarkPassenger on March 18, 2011, 10:50:07 PM
Davis being your high scorer and being destroyed in the 3pt stat. Celtics are 1/9 right now. Not a good sign. Now I'm not bashing Davis (for once) I'm just saying that when you have the names you have on your team and a bench guy is your lead scorer, that's not good.

C's mailed it in, they will also mail in tommorows game if history serves right.

Time to block this team out until the playoffs guys, only 15 more games though so we wont have to wait that long.

yeah, second night of a back to back against a playoff team . . . might as well not even watch tomorrow.

at least this team will probably finish with a few more wins than last year, for all the good that it will do them in the suddenly much stronger east.

agreed, as long as they do keep an eye on HCA but health is the overall important thing. Plus giving the new bench guys some playing time will help them big later.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Tenacious D on March 18, 2011, 10:50:14 PM
in Bird's days, these types of games would happen once or twice a year ...Ah Celtics Pride, how far it has fallen.



It's not about pride. It's about legs. The season is longer, the PO's have an extra round, ghe guys are older and some are hurting. Plus it takes a lot of energy to play help D & movement ball to the wall for 4 Qs. Suspect they will be on cruise control til the end of the season.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Defense on March 18, 2011, 10:50:51 PM
Laughing on these boards should be off limits when we lose by over 20 points. Just my opinion, I am fuming.

Yea, how dare us laugh at some of the posters on here throwing in the towel when, in fact, this team is doing the EXACT same act as last year around this time? Actually, they started this act LONG before this point in the season last year. This team is old. They have to pace themselves or else they'll be burnt out come the second round of the playoffs.

here's the thing, though.  the celtics lost in the finals last season in large part because they checked out through large sections of the regular season.  home court advantage is HUGE in the playoffs, especially in the finals. 

if this team wants to win a championship, they are going to need HCA . . . or else they're going to need to be so good that they can win 3 or 4 straight games against their opponent (and they won't be if they've tired themselves out beating multiple teams on the road in the post-season).

If they go all out and don't rest their players during this stretch they won't even make the finals. They'll be gone in either the second round or the ECF, especially if they go 7 games. I'd rather them pace themselves and rest the old guys a bit.

If the choice is between losing in the ECF or losing to the Lakers in the Finals, I'll take an early exit every time.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: ejk3489 on March 18, 2011, 10:50:54 PM
Laughing on these boards should be off limits when we lose by over 20 points. Just my opinion, I am fuming.

Yea, how dare us laugh at some of the posters on here throwing in the towel when, in fact, this team is doing the EXACT same act as last year around this time? Actually, they started this act LONG before this point in the season last year. This team is old. They have to pace themselves or else they'll be burnt out come the second round of the playoffs.

here's the thing, though.  the celtics lost in the finals last season in large part because they checked out through large sections of the regular season.  home court advantage is HUGE in the playoffs, especially in the finals. 

if this team wants to win a championship, they are going to need HCA . . . or else they're going to need to be so good that they can win 3 or 4 straight games against their opponent (and they won't be if they've tired themselves out beating multiple teams on the road in the post-season).

Yeah but HCA will pretty much mean nothing if the players are all gassed by the time the playoffs start. Having the first seed would definitely be the best case scenario, but I think if they hold on to the second seed it's not the end of the world.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: slamtheking on March 18, 2011, 10:50:55 PM
groan   ::)   has Sasha even made a bucket since he's been signed?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 10:51:55 PM
Davis being your high scorer and being destroyed in the 3pt stat. Celtics are 1/9 right now. Not a good sign. Now I'm not bashing Davis (for once) I'm just saying that when you have the names you have on your team and a bench guy is your lead scorer, that's not good.

C's mailed it in, they will also mail in tommorows game if history serves right.

Time to block this team out until the playoffs guys, only 15 more games though so we wont have to wait that long.

yeah, second night of a back to back against a playoff team . . . might as well not even watch tomorrow.

at least this team will probably finish with a few more wins than last year, for all the good that it will do them in the suddenly much stronger east.

I'm pretty sure they will win tomorrow. It's just the way things go with this team

C'are 5-12 on the second night of back to back road trips.

Dont know what makes you think they will win tommorow.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: slamtheking on March 18, 2011, 10:52:28 PM
don't know what makes me feel worse: watching the horrible effort by the C's tonight or looking at the results of my NCAA bracket :P
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 10:53:05 PM
Davis being your high scorer and being destroyed in the 3pt stat. Celtics are 1/9 right now. Not a good sign. Now I'm not bashing Davis (for once) I'm just saying that when you have the names you have on your team and a bench guy is your lead scorer, that's not good.

C's mailed it in, they will also mail in tommorows game if history serves right.

Time to block this team out until the playoffs guys, only 15 more games though so we wont have to wait that long.

yeah, second night of a back to back against a playoff team . . . might as well not even watch tomorrow.

at least this team will probably finish with a few more wins than last year, for all the good that it will do them in the suddenly much stronger east.

I'm pretty sure they will win tomorrow. It's just the way things go with this team

C'are 5-12 on the second night of back to back road trips.

Dont know what makes you think they will win tommorow.

they will, this team always responds when it's not expected to, plus, all our starters got a lot of rest tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: The DarkPassenger on March 18, 2011, 10:53:12 PM
groan   ::)   has Sasha even made a bucket since he's been signed?

Think he made a 3 once, about it. Did we sign him for defense or the fact that he could shoot once a long time ago back in his Cavs days?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: slamtheking on March 18, 2011, 10:54:29 PM
Well, Bradley put the signature move to capture the theme of the evening---a blown layup ==> inability to execute the basics
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 10:55:23 PM
groan   ::)   has Sasha even made a bucket since he's been signed?

Think he made a 3 once, about it. Did we sign him for defense or the fact that he could shoot once a long time ago back in his Cavs days?

I thought we signed him to help Bradley make the pregame peanut butter and jelly sandwiches
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: slamtheking on March 18, 2011, 10:55:31 PM
groan   ::)   has Sasha even made a bucket since he's been signed?

Think he made a 3 once, about it. Did we sign him for defense or the fact that he could shoot once a long time ago back in his Cavs days?
I thought he was supposed to be an outside shooter.  I guess he is since he can certainly toss up outside shots -- he just doesn't make them   :P
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 18, 2011, 10:56:40 PM
I missed the game...but I guess it's not worth staying up and watching the replay.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: outcry on March 18, 2011, 10:57:07 PM
Adios, game thread posters. I'll be back in time for the playoffs!  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: hpantazo on March 18, 2011, 10:57:24 PM
I missed the game...but I guess it's not worth staying up and watching the replay.

not unless you want nightmares
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 10:57:34 PM
Prepare for another blowout loss tomorrow, Okafor and West are going to have field days.

Chris Paul is going to thoroughly demolish Rondo.

Doc really needs to bench the starters until the playoffs start so they get full rest, and only use them in practice.

No point to play the starters for the rest of the regular season in my opinion.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on March 18, 2011, 10:57:55 PM
I think they'll come into the game tomorrow night the same as tonight. Look to win but with using as little energy as possible.

I think the best we can hope for this late in the season is if the other team folds or the C's win a close game.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: dasani on March 18, 2011, 10:58:54 PM


C'are 5-12 on the second night of back to back road trips.

Dont know what makes you think they will win tommorow.

I know I can look it up and will...but does this include being blown out on the first night?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 18, 2011, 10:59:09 PM
groan   ::)   has Sasha even made a bucket since he's been signed?

Think he made a 3 once, about it. Did we sign him for defense or the fact that he could shoot once a long time ago back in his Cavs days?

I thought we signed him to help Bradley make the pregame peanut butter and jelly sandwiches

Right. And Murphy to bring the drinks.. jeez, he looks older and slower than Shaq.

Anyway, TP for you for making me laugh!
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 18, 2011, 10:59:31 PM
We're getting more inconsistent as playoffs near...Shaq needs to come back soon...shake up things a bit.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Roy H. on March 18, 2011, 10:59:46 PM
I missed the game...but I guess it's not worth staying up and watching the replay.

I don't know.  Rumor has it that some people like to watch train wrecks.  This is the athletic equivalent.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: dasani on March 18, 2011, 11:00:19 PM
Adios, game thread posters. I'll be back in time for the playoffs!  ;D

this sounds like a good plan
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Megatron on March 18, 2011, 11:00:31 PM
I think they'll come into the game tomorrow night the same as tonight. Look to win but with using as little energy as possible.

I think the best we can hope for this late in the season is if the other team folds or the C's win a close game.

Haha Perfect example of how this team plays.

They show up and try to see if they can intimidate the other team into giving up.

When the other team doesent give up and fights back and gets a lead, the starters simply give up and mail it in.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 18, 2011, 11:02:46 PM
Just looked at the boxscore...the starting five really put up a stinker...Davis and Green seem to have had a decent game.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on March 18, 2011, 11:03:04 PM
Prepare for another blowout loss tomorrow, Okafor and West are going to have field days.

Chris Paul is going to thoroughly demolish Rondo.

Doc really needs to bench the starters until the playoffs start so they get full rest, and only use them in practice.

No point to play the starters for the rest of the regular season in my opinion.

Yes the starters need rest but you don't need to drop yourself to 4th or 5th in the standings. You don't have to rest all the starters at once. You gotta at least give yourself a chance to win.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: tenn_smoothie on March 18, 2011, 11:04:25 PM
the starting five - especially Rondo - have been struggling badly since The Trade.
can it be any more obvious ?

Danny has damaged the chemistry and the psyche of his team because he made a move that he thought looked like an overall improvement on paper. but nba teams - especially this team - don't play their games on paper. just ask yourself - would Red have made that deal ?  No Way, because Red understood people and that was his greatest strength and it is something Ainge seems completely oblivious to.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 18, 2011, 11:04:54 PM
Yep, I predicted this one tonight as well.  Rhondo's play , what ever his excuse, his play is not much better than high school level right now.

Paul will make a joke of him  .  If he is hurt , then he needs to GO HOME and rest. or see a shrink .

 I'm  losing my mind now watching them play.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Tai on March 18, 2011, 11:05:18 PM
Prepare for another blowout loss tomorrow, Okafor and West are going to have field days.

Chris Paul is going to thoroughly demolish Rondo.

Doc really needs to bench the starters until the playoffs start so they get full rest, and only use them in practice.

No point to play the starters for the rest of the regular season in my opinion.

Yes the starters need rest but you don't need to drop yourself to 4th or 5th in the standings. You don't have to rest all the starters at once. You gotta at least give yourself a chance to win.

Stop feeding him. Seriously. He does this after every loss.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Spicoli on March 18, 2011, 11:07:47 PM
I know i might get flamed for this, but KG really is soft. Nothing more need be said about Rondo, but KG has been almost as bad over the last stretch of games. The only shots he takes nowadays are 18 footers. When he steps a foot in the paint (where he should be in the first place) he looks to pass the ball back out like it's hot potato. Right now KG is all bark and no bite. This coming from someone who absolutely loves KG.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 18, 2011, 11:11:52 PM
I guess we need more offense than Danny managed to acquire.:P
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 18, 2011, 11:12:10 PM
well it would sure help if RHONDO would play point guard and drive the ball and set up his bigs and could make a freakin layup. He needs to set the tone and get guys involved and be a leader and not a chump.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Tai on March 18, 2011, 11:12:42 PM
the starting five - especially Rondo - have been struggling badly since The Trade. can it be any more obvious ?

Danny has damaged the chemistry and the psyche of his team because he made a move that he thought looked like an overall improvement on paper. but nba teams - especially this team - don't play their games on paper. just ask yourself - would Red have made that deal ?  No Way, because Red understood people and that was his greatest strength and it is something Ainge seems completely oblivious to.

So tell me: what was our problem last season? We didn't look any better last season than we do now, if not worse, and all we did was trade Eddie House for Nate Robinson. I think Bill Simmons even went so far as to predict we would lose in the 1st round to the Heat. Whether that was silly or not was immaterial; THAT'S how bad we were playing. We were the 4th seed, and looking old as ever, as everyone wanted to tell us.

This season so far? We're STILL tied with the Bulls for 1st seed in the East, and subsequently tied for the 2nd best record in the NBA to the Spurs, even with our alleged woes lately. THAT'S how well we've played THIS season so far.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: KungPoweChicken on March 18, 2011, 11:15:00 PM
Rondo throws in another stinker tonight. This team needs to start West if they want to get the one or two seed.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Roy H. on March 18, 2011, 11:15:57 PM
We're STILL tied with the Bulls for 1st seed in the East, and subsequently tied for the 2nd best record in the NBA to the Spurs, even with our alleged woes lately.

Alleged?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: ejk3489 on March 18, 2011, 11:18:16 PM
Rondo throws in another stinker tonight. This team needs to start West if they want to get the one or two seed.

Shocking, calling out Rondo and no other starters that played horrible.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: guava_wrench on March 18, 2011, 11:19:50 PM
Rondo throws in another stinker tonight. This team needs to start West if they want to get the one or two seed.

Shocking, calling out Rondo and no other starters that played horrible.
Well, he did say ANOTHER stinker. How many of the other starters are on a roll like he is?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: tenn_smoothie on March 18, 2011, 11:23:15 PM
the starting five - especially Rondo - have been struggling badly since The Trade. can it be any more obvious ?

Danny has damaged the chemistry and the psyche of his team because he made a move that he thought looked like an overall improvement on paper. but nba teams - especially this team - don't play their games on paper. just ask yourself - would Red have made that deal ?  No Way, because Red understood people and that was his greatest strength and it is something Ainge seems completely oblivious to.

So tell me: what was our problem last season? We didn't look any better last season than we do now, if not worse, and all we did was trade Eddie House for Nate Robinson. I think Bill Simmons even went so far as to predict we would lose in the 1st round to the Heat. Whether that was silly or not was immaterial; THAT'S how bad we were playing. We were the 4th seed, and looking old as ever, as everyone wanted to tell us.

This season so far? We're STILL tied with the Bulls for 1st seed in the East, and subsequently tied for the 2nd best record in the NBA to the Spurs, even with our alleged woes lately. THAT'S how well we've played THIS season so far.

last season was a different issue.

........ and we have played well THIS season - until the disastorous trade we made on Feb. 24.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: ejk3489 on March 18, 2011, 11:23:16 PM
Rondo throws in another stinker tonight. This team needs to start West if they want to get the one or two seed.

Shocking, calling out Rondo and no other starters that played horrible.
Well, he did say ANOTHER stinker. How many of the other starters are on a roll like he is?

Clearly none like Rondo, but KG, Paul, and Ray have all been off the last 5 games or so now.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: outcry on March 18, 2011, 11:24:43 PM
I'm laughing at BBD's explanation about the push from Hill. I'm also laughing at Dickerson baiting him into saying something over the line to get a fine from Stern.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: barefacedmonk on March 18, 2011, 11:26:19 PM
Forget the offense...Why were we bad at rebounding? KG has just 5 and Krstic has only 3. Patterson and Hayes were too hard to handle?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: butterbeanlove on March 18, 2011, 11:40:14 PM
the starting five - especially Rondo - have been struggling badly since The Trade. can it be any more obvious ?

Danny has damaged the chemistry and the psyche of his team because he made a move that he thought looked like an overall improvement on paper. but nba teams - especially this team - don't play their games on paper. just ask yourself - would Red have made that deal ?  No Way, because Red understood people and that was his greatest strength and it is something Ainge seems completely oblivious to.

So tell me: what was our problem last season? We didn't look any better last season than we do now, if not worse, and all we did was trade Eddie House for Nate Robinson. I think Bill Simmons even went so far as to predict we would lose in the 1st round to the Heat. Whether that was silly or not was immaterial; THAT'S how bad we were playing. We were the 4th seed, and looking old as ever, as everyone wanted to tell us.

This season so far? We're STILL tied with the Bulls for 1st seed in the East, and subsequently tied for the 2nd best record in the NBA to the Spurs, even with our alleged woes lately. THAT'S how well we've played THIS season so far.

last season was a different issue.

........ and we have played well THIS season - until the disastorous trade we made on Feb. 24.

Agreed. As much as we were inconsistent last year, we were nowhere as disjointed on both sides of the ball as we are right now with less than a month until the playoffs. This team has no identity on offense or on defense right now and it gets worse every game. It has nothing to do with "flipping the switch" like last year.

I'd love to be proven wrong but we're going in the wrong direction. And what's worse, other teams can smell blood. Exhibit A: tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: European NBA fan on March 18, 2011, 11:43:57 PM
I'm so happy, that I chose to watch the Bulls getting beaten by the Pacers in stead of this game. It was much more encouraging to see that the Bulls can be beaten by a sub .500 team, even when they play hard.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: ejk3489 on March 18, 2011, 11:49:59 PM
the starting five - especially Rondo - have been struggling badly since The Trade. can it be any more obvious ?

Danny has damaged the chemistry and the psyche of his team because he made a move that he thought looked like an overall improvement on paper. but nba teams - especially this team - don't play their games on paper. just ask yourself - would Red have made that deal ?  No Way, because Red understood people and that was his greatest strength and it is something Ainge seems completely oblivious to.

So tell me: what was our problem last season? We didn't look any better last season than we do now, if not worse, and all we did was trade Eddie House for Nate Robinson. I think Bill Simmons even went so far as to predict we would lose in the 1st round to the Heat. Whether that was silly or not was immaterial; THAT'S how bad we were playing. We were the 4th seed, and looking old as ever, as everyone wanted to tell us.

This season so far? We're STILL tied with the Bulls for 1st seed in the East, and subsequently tied for the 2nd best record in the NBA to the Spurs, even with our alleged woes lately. THAT'S how well we've played THIS season so far.

last season was a different issue.

........ and we have played well THIS season - until the disastorous trade we made on Feb. 24.

Agreed. As much as we were inconsistent last year, we were nowhere as disjointed on both sides of the ball as we are right now with less than a month until the playoffs. This team has no identity on offense or on defense right now and it gets worse every game. It has nothing to do with "flipping the switch" like last year.

I'd love to be proven wrong but we're going in the wrong direction. And what's worse, other teams can smell blood. Exhibit A: tonight.

Anyone who thinks that must have blocked the memories of last season from their brain. I mean seriously we ended the season 3-7 and on a two game losing streak. They couldn't have played much worse to end the season.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: jdpapa3 on March 18, 2011, 11:53:36 PM
Kind of obvious to me that the starters are physically checking out right now in the dog days of the season. Can't blame them if they are only really worried about the Heat having HCA, but I wish they'd attempt to have a better record than LA.

What I don't understand is how such a mentally tough team can have a mostly soft fanbase? At least on the internet.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Tai on March 18, 2011, 11:58:12 PM
the starting five - especially Rondo - have been struggling badly since The Trade. can it be any more obvious ?

Danny has damaged the chemistry and the psyche of his team because he made a move that he thought looked like an overall improvement on paper. but nba teams - especially this team - don't play their games on paper. just ask yourself - would Red have made that deal ?  No Way, because Red understood people and that was his greatest strength and it is something Ainge seems completely oblivious to.

So tell me: what was our problem last season? We didn't look any better last season than we do now, if not worse, and all we did was trade Eddie House for Nate Robinson. I think Bill Simmons even went so far as to predict we would lose in the 1st round to the Heat. Whether that was silly or not was immaterial; THAT'S how bad we were playing. We were the 4th seed, and looking old as ever, as everyone wanted to tell us.

This season so far? We're STILL tied with the Bulls for 1st seed in the East, and subsequently tied for the 2nd best record in the NBA to the Spurs, even with our alleged woes lately. THAT'S how well we've played THIS season so far.

last season was a different issue.

........ and we have played well THIS season - until the disastorous trade we made on Feb. 24.

Agreed. As much as we were inconsistent last year, we were nowhere as disjointed on both sides of the ball as we are right now with less than a month until the playoffs. This team has no identity on offense or on defense right now and it gets worse every game. It has nothing to do with "flipping the switch" like last year.

I'd love to be proven wrong but we're going in the wrong direction. And what's worse, other teams can smell blood. Exhibit A: tonight.

 Do you really believe we were better last season when people said we would possibly be out in the 1st round? Seriously?  ::) I almost feel like your post is contrived of you wanting to prove that the trade should never have happened. But between a 4th seed and how we finished out that season (3-7 in our last 10 games and 7-8 in our last 15, mind you), and the fact a lot of people thought the Celtics would be one and done, we definitely seemed disjointed then, too.

In the first 4 games since Krstic and Green came on, we scored 100. We even went on a five game winning streak with those guys on board.

In the last 7 games, we've limited our opponents to under 100 points in 6 games and under 90 in 5 of them.

One blowout loss doesn't mean we're suddenly more disjointed this season than we were last. One blowout loss is NOT the end of the world or this season.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Roy H. on March 19, 2011, 12:05:18 AM
In the first 4 games since Krstic and Green came on, we scored 100. We even went on a five game winning streak with those guys on board.

In the last 7 games, we've limited our opponents to under 100 points in 6 games and under 90 in 5 of them.

One blowout loss doesn't mean we're suddenly more disjointed this season than we were last. One blowout loss is NOT the end of the world or this season.

I understand your desire not to panic, and I agree it's good to have perspective.

However, I think your description of the last several games might be a bit rosy.  We're 2-4 in our last six, having played a bunch of mediocre-to-very-poor teams.  That's not encouraging, no matter how anybody spins it.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: KCattheStripe on March 19, 2011, 12:10:15 AM
In the first 4 games since Krstic and Green came on, we scored 100. We even went on a five game winning streak with those guys on board.

In the last 7 games, we've limited our opponents to under 100 points in 6 games and under 90 in 5 of them.

One blowout loss doesn't mean we're suddenly more disjointed this season than we were last. One blowout loss is NOT the end of the world or this season.

I understand your desire not to panic, and I agree it's good to have perspective.

However, I think your description of the last several games might be a bit rosy.  We're 2-4 in our last six, having played a bunch of mediocre-to-very-poor teams.  That's not encouraging, no matter how anybody spins it.


OK , but given his point about the 5 game winning streak and then this subsequent poor play, I don't think it's unreasonable to say that this 2-4 mess has more to do with the team being banged up and tired than it does the Perkins trade.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Roy H. on March 19, 2011, 12:14:43 AM
In the first 4 games since Krstic and Green came on, we scored 100. We even went on a five game winning streak with those guys on board.

In the last 7 games, we've limited our opponents to under 100 points in 6 games and under 90 in 5 of them.

One blowout loss doesn't mean we're suddenly more disjointed this season than we were last. One blowout loss is NOT the end of the world or this season.

I understand your desire not to panic, and I agree it's good to have perspective.

However, I think your description of the last several games might be a bit rosy.  We're 2-4 in our last six, having played a bunch of mediocre-to-very-poor teams.  That's not encouraging, no matter how anybody spins it.


OK , but given his point about the 5 game winning streak and then this subsequent poor play, I don't think it's unreasonable to say that this 2-4 mess has more to do with the team being banged up and tired than it does the Perkins trade.

I always thought the 5 game win streak was a bit of fool's gold.  Is beating 5 non-playoff teams really anything to brag about?  I guess it is after the string of recent play, but usually I wouldn't be all that pumped about a bunch of close wins against inferior competition.

Obviously, this can't all be attributed to the Perk trade, although I think it is fair to say that there's been a correlation between the trade and a visible loss of enthusiasm and cohesion within the team.  It could be a coincidence, or it could be a factor to some degree.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Bahku on March 19, 2011, 12:16:25 AM
Rondo's adjusting to the new players, as everyone else is, and Rondo, despite his early-season injury, has played more minutes than anyone, and I thing he's just weary.

I loved the fact that Tommy lost his cool ... I have never heard him swear, (or if I did, I've forgotten it), and I've been watching for his entire career ... I was fuming at the crap that Martin was getting away with, and TH timed his overload perfectly, lol.

This team is just plain weary, (as they almost always are this time of year), and trying to integrate new players ... yes, this sucks right now, but I am honestly not worried ... the stars will align again soon. ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: jaser on March 19, 2011, 01:28:11 AM

What I don't understand is how such a mentally tough team can have a mostly soft fanbase? At least on the internet.


THIS.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: dasani on March 19, 2011, 01:57:30 AM

What I don't understand is how such a mentally tough team can have a mostly soft fanbase? At least on the internet.


THIS.
+1
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: KungPoweChicken on March 19, 2011, 02:28:56 AM
Rondo's adjusting to the new players, as everyone else is, and Rondo, despite his early-season injury, has played more minutes than anyone, and I thing he's just weary.

I loved the fact that Tommy lost his cool ... I have never heard him swear, (or if I did, I've forgotten it), and I've been watching for his entire career ... I was fuming at the crap that Martin was getting away with, and TH timed his overload perfectly, lol.

This team is just plain weary, (as they almost always are this time of year), and trying to integrate new players ... yes, this sucks right now, but I am honestly not worried ... the stars will align again soon. ;)



Minutes played:



Ray Allen--2376


Paul Pierce-- 2288


Rajon Rondo--2059


I love peoples' enthusiasm to make excuses for the kid, though. The fact is that Rondo isn't as mentally tough as the elite/good players in this league.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Celtics18 on March 19, 2011, 02:30:39 AM
I'm not really to worried about this loss. We'll bounce back.  
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Celtics18 on March 19, 2011, 02:32:40 AM
Rondo's adjusting to the new players, as everyone else is, and Rondo, despite his early-season injury, has played more minutes than anyone, and I thing he's just weary.

I loved the fact that Tommy lost his cool ... I have never heard him swear, (or if I did, I've forgotten it), and I've been watching for his entire career ... I was fuming at the crap that Martin was getting away with, and TH timed his overload perfectly, lol.

This team is just plain weary, (as they almost always are this time of year), and trying to integrate new players ... yes, this sucks right now, but I am honestly not worried ... the stars will align again soon. ;)



Minutes played:



Ray Allen--2376


Paul Pierce-- 2288


Rajon Rondo--2059


I love peoples' enthusiasm to make excuses for the kid, though. The fact is that Rondo isn't as mentally tough as the elite/good players in this league.

Thanks for that fact. 
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: KungPoweChicken on March 19, 2011, 02:57:59 AM
Rondo's adjusting to the new players, as everyone else is, and Rondo, despite his early-season injury, has played more minutes than anyone, and I thing he's just weary.

I loved the fact that Tommy lost his cool ... I have never heard him swear, (or if I did, I've forgotten it), and I've been watching for his entire career ... I was fuming at the crap that Martin was getting away with, and TH timed his overload perfectly, lol.

This team is just plain weary, (as they almost always are this time of year), and trying to integrate new players ... yes, this sucks right now, but I am honestly not worried ... the stars will align again soon. ;)



Minutes played:



Ray Allen--2376


Paul Pierce-- 2288


Rajon Rondo--2059


I love peoples' enthusiasm to make excuses for the kid, though. The fact is that Rondo isn't as mentally tough as the elite/good players in this league.

Thanks for that fact.  



Well, if you're referring to the minutes played, then, yes, that is a fact, and it is contrary to what Baku said. The truth must be known. If you're referring to "Rondo isn't as mentally tough as the elite/good players in the league," it may not be a fact, but it can be heavily supported.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: tenn_smoothie on March 19, 2011, 03:03:44 AM
the starting five - especially Rondo - have been struggling badly since The Trade. can it be any more obvious ?

Danny has damaged the chemistry and the psyche of his team because he made a move that he thought looked like an overall improvement on paper. but nba teams - especially this team - don't play their games on paper. just ask yourself - would Red have made that deal ?  No Way, because Red understood people and that was his greatest strength and it is something Ainge seems completely oblivious to.

So tell me: what was our problem last season? We didn't look any better last season than we do now, if not worse, and all we did was trade Eddie House for Nate Robinson. I think Bill Simmons even went so far as to predict we would lose in the 1st round to the Heat. Whether that was silly or not was immaterial; THAT'S how bad we were playing. We were the 4th seed, and looking old as ever, as everyone wanted to tell us.

This season so far? We're STILL tied with the Bulls for 1st seed in the East, and subsequently tied for the 2nd best record in the NBA to the Spurs, even with our alleged woes lately. THAT'S how well we've played THIS season so far.

last season was a different issue.

........ and we have played well THIS season - until the disastorous trade we made on Feb. 24.

Agreed. As much as we were inconsistent last year, we were nowhere as disjointed on both sides of the ball as we are right now with less than a month until the playoffs. This team has no identity on offense or on defense right now and it gets worse every game. It has nothing to do with "flipping the switch" like last year.

I'd love to be proven wrong but we're going in the wrong direction. And what's worse, other teams can smell blood. Exhibit A: tonight.

 Do you really believe we were better last season when people said we would possibly be out in the 1st round? Seriously?  ::) I almost feel like your post is contrived of you wanting to prove that the trade should never have happened. But between a 4th seed and how we finished out that season (3-7 in our last 10 games and 7-8 in our last 15, mind you), and the fact a lot of people thought the Celtics would be one and done, we definitely seemed disjointed then, too.

In the first 4 games since Krstic and Green came on, we scored 100. We even went on a five game winning streak with those guys on board.

In the last 7 games, we've limited our opponents to under 100 points in 6 games and under 90 in 5 of them.

One blowout loss doesn't mean we're suddenly more disjointed this season than we were last. One blowout loss is NOT the end of the world or this season.



sorry, but you are completely missing the point if you are trying to draw some kind of comparison between last season and this season - there are totally different dynamics at work between then and now - apples & oranges.


and yes, i do not believe the trade should ever have happened - what exactly was your first clue ?

i'm not putting any great effort into trying to prove that it was a bad trade. i'm simply making observations about the worst case scenario that has developed as a result of this team's heart being ripped away by their friendly GM - himself a manager of people who apparently has no insight whatsoever into the psychology of team sports.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Tai on March 19, 2011, 03:24:38 AM
the starting five - especially Rondo - have been struggling badly since The Trade. can it be any more obvious ?

Danny has damaged the chemistry and the psyche of his team because he made a move that he thought looked like an overall improvement on paper. but nba teams - especially this team - don't play their games on paper. just ask yourself - would Red have made that deal ?  No Way, because Red understood people and that was his greatest strength and it is something Ainge seems completely oblivious to.

So tell me: what was our problem last season? We didn't look any better last season than we do now, if not worse, and all we did was trade Eddie House for Nate Robinson. I think Bill Simmons even went so far as to predict we would lose in the 1st round to the Heat. Whether that was silly or not was immaterial; THAT'S how bad we were playing. We were the 4th seed, and looking old as ever, as everyone wanted to tell us.

This season so far? We're STILL tied with the Bulls for 1st seed in the East, and subsequently tied for the 2nd best record in the NBA to the Spurs, even with our alleged woes lately. THAT'S how well we've played THIS season so far.

last season was a different issue.

........ and we have played well THIS season - until the disastorous trade we made on Feb. 24.

Agreed. As much as we were inconsistent last year, we were nowhere as disjointed on both sides of the ball as we are right now with less than a month until the playoffs. This team has no identity on offense or on defense right now and it gets worse every game. It has nothing to do with "flipping the switch" like last year.

I'd love to be proven wrong but we're going in the wrong direction. And what's worse, other teams can smell blood. Exhibit A: tonight.

 Do you really believe we were better last season when people said we would possibly be out in the 1st round? Seriously?  ::) I almost feel like your post is contrived of you wanting to prove that the trade should never have happened. But between a 4th seed and how we finished out that season (3-7 in our last 10 games and 7-8 in our last 15, mind you), and the fact a lot of people thought the Celtics would be one and done, we definitely seemed disjointed then, too.

In the first 4 games since Krstic and Green came on, we scored 100. We even went on a five game winning streak with those guys on board.

In the last 7 games, we've limited our opponents to under 100 points in 6 games and under 90 in 5 of them.

One blowout loss doesn't mean we're suddenly more disjointed this season than we were last. One blowout loss is NOT the end of the world or this season.



no offense, but you are completely missing the point if you are trying to draw some kind of comparison between last season and this season - there are totally different dynamics at work between then and now - apples & oranges.


uh yeah, i do not believe the trade should ever have happened - what exactly was your first clue ?

The problem with your point is that you're basically assessing every loss as to mean that the trade shouldn't have happened.

You claim the trade damaged the chemistry and psyche of this team? Where are you getting that from? You couldn't have gotten that from the first 5 games the team played with Krstic and Green, because they a) won, and b) scored at least 99 points in 4 of those games. I have no doubt the team wasn't happy that Danny traded Perkins, just like they weren't when House was traded last season, and sure, the new guys will take a while to get acclimated into how the Celtics play, but their psyche and chemistry didn't seem damaged in the games immediately after the trade. Heck, they've killed the Bucks and Pacers in the last week. Krstic and Green, for the most part, actually seem comfortable now.

I feel like you're just exaggerating the damage of anything, let alone psyche or chemistry, to help your point. No one's saying Krstic and Green will be best best buds with the team like Perkins was before the season ends, but it's unfair to claim every loss at this point is on Danny for making the trade.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Tai on March 19, 2011, 03:33:36 AM
And the reason I compare this season to last season is because we looked horrid ending that season, and no one had faith we'd go far in the playoffs.

Just saying we don't look good now doesn't prove this was a bad trade, for whatever reason you may claim. Not when the team started off well with the new guys after the trade. It's clear Krstic and Green can in fact "fit in". Maybe not the way we want them too (or basically, like Perk could), but they have nonetheless.

Just like you allege that last season was a different issue from this season, I think our problems this season is a different issue from the trade.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: tenn_smoothie on March 19, 2011, 04:04:44 AM
And the reason I compare this season to last season is because we looked horrid ending that season, and no one had faith we'd go far in the playoffs.

Just saying we don't look good now doesn't prove this was a bad trade, for whatever reason you may claim. Not when the team started off well with the new guys after the trade. It's clear Krstic and Green can in fact "fit in". Maybe not the way we want them too (or basically, like Perk could), but they have nonetheless.

Just like you allege that last season was a different issue from this season, I think our problems this season is a different issue from the trade.

fair enough - and i agree that Kristic and Green have played well.
i'm not blaming the losses on them.

on the other hand, just because the team has won some games (vs weak opponents) since the trade doesn't prove their individual and collective psyches have not been damaged. look at the starting fives' performances and stats since the trade. those are the guys that would be most effected emotionally and those are the guys who, until feb. 24, were carrying this team thru all the injuries and keeping the Celts in that first spot in the east.

Rondo's been a zombie since the trade and Garnett has been less aggressive. Pierce and Allen's shooting has been scattered all over the place.

i'm not happy that the trade has been a kick in the gut to our team, but this team, more than any other group in the league and probably more than any Celtic team since Russell's 1969 champions, played for each other and thrived on emotion and a shared motivation to get the title back to Boston. that intangible togetherness has been affected.


last season, the Celts struggled the entire second half of the year due to a still healing Kevin Garnett, the alpha male push and pull created by the emergence of Rondo's desire to be a team leader and a weak bench. this season, the struggles started specifcally among the starters and immediately after the trade.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: wiley on March 19, 2011, 08:32:44 AM
Not worried!   :D  Rockets were not containable....their basket was like the ocean for like 3 of their guys....

We are still an undermanned team....we made two big signings at center and neither is playing.  We need them!  They (or at least one of them) will be back soon...

Ainge is a great GM.  Trust! 

The Celtics are tired but their pride will take over.....no East team has a chance against us!  :o

Go Celtics!
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: Celtics18 on March 19, 2011, 10:47:05 AM
Rondo's adjusting to the new players, as everyone else is, and Rondo, despite his early-season injury, has played more minutes than anyone, and I thing he's just weary.

I loved the fact that Tommy lost his cool ... I have never heard him swear, (or if I did, I've forgotten it), and I've been watching for his entire career ... I was fuming at the crap that Martin was getting away with, and TH timed his overload perfectly, lol.

This team is just plain weary, (as they almost always are this time of year), and trying to integrate new players ... yes, this sucks right now, but I am honestly not worried ... the stars will align again soon. ;)



Minutes played:



Ray Allen--2376


Paul Pierce-- 2288


Rajon Rondo--2059


I love peoples' enthusiasm to make excuses for the kid, though. The fact is that Rondo isn't as mentally tough as the elite/good players in this league.

Thanks for that fact.  



Well, if you're referring to the minutes played, then, yes, that is a fact, and it is contrary to what Baku said. The truth must be known. If you're referring to "Rondo isn't as mentally tough as the elite/good players in the league," it may not be a fact, but it can be heavily supported.

I was referring to your quote about Rondo not being "mentally tough."  That's not a fact, as you claim.  That's an opinion that I strongly disagree with. 
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: BballTim on March 19, 2011, 10:56:14 AM
Rondo's adjusting to the new players, as everyone else is, and Rondo, despite his early-season injury, has played more minutes than anyone, and I thing he's just weary.

I loved the fact that Tommy lost his cool ... I have never heard him swear, (or if I did, I've forgotten it), and I've been watching for his entire career ... I was fuming at the crap that Martin was getting away with, and TH timed his overload perfectly, lol.

This team is just plain weary, (as they almost always are this time of year), and trying to integrate new players ... yes, this sucks right now, but I am honestly not worried ... the stars will align again soon. ;)



Minutes played:



Ray Allen--2376


Paul Pierce-- 2288


Rajon Rondo--2059


I love peoples' enthusiasm to make excuses for the kid, though. The fact is that Rondo isn't as mentally tough as the elite/good players in this league.

  Do you realize that Paul and Ray have played 11 more games than Rondo? Rajon's led the team in minutes per game every month of the season in spite of playing through injuries like plantar fasciatis and hamstring issues. He hasn't been complaining about playing through pain and he hasn't been asking out of the lineup. Saying he isn't mentally tough is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: BballTim on March 19, 2011, 11:00:49 AM

Chris Paul is going to thoroughly demolish Rondo.


   Are you as sure about that as you were that Jennings was going to get 30 the game the Bucks ended up with 56 points?
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: lovely_20 on March 19, 2011, 01:22:00 PM
So many negative Nellies on this board.  I'm not worried just yet. 
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: IrishGreen on March 19, 2011, 01:24:44 PM
Rondo's adjusting to the new players, as everyone else is, and Rondo, despite his early-season injury, has played more minutes than anyone, and I thing he's just weary.

I loved the fact that Tommy lost his cool ... I have never heard him swear, (or if I did, I've forgotten it), and I've been watching for his entire career ... I was fuming at the crap that Martin was getting away with, and TH timed his overload perfectly, lol.

This team is just plain weary, (as they almost always are this time of year), and trying to integrate new players ... yes, this sucks right now, but I am honestly not worried ... the stars will align again soon. ;)



Minutes played:



Ray Allen--2376


Paul Pierce-- 2288


Rajon Rondo--2059


I love peoples' enthusiasm to make excuses for the kid, though. The fact is that Rondo isn't as mentally tough as the elite/good players in this league.

You do realise Rondo hasn't played as many games due to injury??

MPG Rondo leads the team.
Title: Re: Celtics (48-18) at Rockets (35-34) 3/18
Post by: yibanbana on March 21, 2011, 04:33:02 AM
If Budinger C can contain less than 20 years, I am happy. You can not begin to slow down the door.