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Title: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: FLCeltsFan on December 08, 2010, 10:46:10 PM
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Boston Celtics (17-4) at Philadelphia 76ers (7-14)
Thursday, December 9
8:00 PM ET
Game #22, Road Game #11
TV:  TNT,  CSNNE,  TSN2
Radio:  WEEI,  WIP
Wachovia Center

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Probable Starters
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PG: Rajon Rondo..................................................SG Ray Allen
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C:  Shaquille O'Neal
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SF:  Paul Pierce ................................. ............PF Kevin Garnett

Coach: Doc Rivers

Boston Bench Mob
Marquis Daniels
Glen Davis
Luke Harangody
Nate Robinson
Von Wafer
Semih Erden
Avery Bradley

Injured
Kendrick Perkins (knee) out
Jermaine O'Neal (knee) out 
Delonte West (wrist) out
Rajon Rondo (hamstring, plantar fasciitis) probable
Nate Robinson (foot) probable
Shaquille O'Neal (knee) probable 

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Probable Starters
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PG: Jrue Holiday ......................................................SF:  Jodie Meeks
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C:  Spencer Hawes
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SF:  Andre Iguodala .................................................. PF:  Elton Brand

Sixers Bench
Thaddeus Young
Andres Nocioni
Lou Williams
Marreese Speights
Tony Battie
Jason Kapono
Craig Brackins
Darius Songaila 

Injuries
None

Key Matchups 
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Paul Pierce vs Andre Iguodala

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Kevin Garnett vs Elton Brand 

Keys to the Game
Defense
Rebound
Play 48 Minutes
Take it to the Hoop

Game Notes
Celtics face the division rival 76ers for the first time this season.   The fortunes of these two teams have changed since the days when Larry Bird and Doctor J went at each other.    Boston has won 10 of the past 12 games and Sixers have not won at home over the Celtics since 3/30/07 (six straight losses). 

The Celtics are 8-2 in their last 10 games while the Sixers are 4-6.  The Celtics are 6-3 on the road while the Sixers are 5-4 at home.  The Celtics are playing in the second of back to back games.  The Sixers last played on Tuesday vs Cleveland.  The Sixers have won three of their past four games after starting the season 3-13 and they have also won four straight at home.

X-Factor
Playing Down to Competition
The Celtics have played down to the level of their competition in the past.  The Sixers don't seem to pose much of a threat, but as with every team, they all seem to get up to play the Celtics.  Underestimating them will be a big mistake. 
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 08, 2010, 10:59:38 PM
Ugh..another back to back. I hope we play like we did against the Nets...get the starters some more rest.

TP FL.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Tai on December 09, 2010, 02:17:07 PM
I bet a lot of people will come in here saying that Rondo should sit. I don't think Doc would put Rondo out there if it's clear he can't. So instead of outright stating that Rondo should sit, I'll trust Doc and the medical staff on this.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Drucci on December 09, 2010, 03:18:22 PM
I bet a lot of people will come in here saying that Rondo should sit. I don't think Doc would put Rondo out there if it's clear he can't. So instead of outright stating that Rondo should sit, I'll trust Doc and the medical staff on this.

Rondo should sit. :P

I trust Doc and the staff but I tend to think Doc is prone to play his guys even when they should sit when he feels they are key to getting the win. He is only very cautious with KG, probably because of his injury in '09.

Anyway, it's definitely a trap game but I think we can win this one without Rondo, we just have to start the game well and then keep our lead.

TP FL and go Celtics!
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: ACF on December 09, 2010, 03:27:29 PM
Another GT, another TP.

Go Celtics!
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Who on December 09, 2010, 03:32:56 PM
Phily have one of the worst collection of defensive big men in the league.

The Celtics should get a lot of easy baskets (and a blowout win) if they move the ball well.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Kane3387 on December 09, 2010, 07:55:22 PM
Shaq will be out.

http://twitter.com/SeanGrandePBP/status/13014791660511233

Who should start, Semih or Baby?
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Edgar on December 09, 2010, 08:14:23 PM
I think it will be game thread for me tonight
I dont have chat software updated in this computer and cant
program without an administrator pass
darn
hate work computers...lol


well

LETS PLAY!!!!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: indeedproceed on December 09, 2010, 08:19:11 PM
I miss you, Kendrick Perkins.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Edgar on December 09, 2010, 08:20:37 PM
lol a little lost Erden
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 09, 2010, 08:24:55 PM
glad to see Erden start..! Starting is a great boost to confidence, and they are using him on the offense..! I never saw brand play b4......
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: angryguy77 on December 09, 2010, 08:28:03 PM
Love how nobody ran out to gaurd 3. Nice effort 
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 09, 2010, 08:30:11 PM
Hmmmmm, rebounds........
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Neurotic Guy on December 09, 2010, 08:32:31 PM
Have to comment on that sequence. No boxing out -- gave them 2 extra chances -- sixers just showing more desire for the ball.  Can't win undermanned if we don't have the desire.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: snively on December 09, 2010, 08:32:43 PM
Very little energy exerted on D thus far.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: angryguy77 on December 09, 2010, 08:32:58 PM
Hmmmmm, rebounds........


We're obviously not a big fan of them tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: snively on December 09, 2010, 08:37:43 PM
Baby doing a nice job finishing inside.  Not doing much for our D however.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Who on December 09, 2010, 08:37:58 PM
It's a pity Shaq isn't playing tonight. He would have had a lot of fun with Spencer Hawes.

Hawes is easily one of the worst post defenders in the league + one of the worst overall defenders at the five spot.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: albas89 on December 09, 2010, 08:39:39 PM
Very little energy exerted on D thus far.

Very little energy is exerted by PP generally for the last few games...
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 09, 2010, 08:42:29 PM
Wow, wafer early in too..!
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: angryguy77 on December 09, 2010, 08:42:52 PM
Did sager just say "uncharacteristic turnover for boston" lol
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 09, 2010, 08:43:28 PM
Hmmmmm, rebounds........


We're obviously not a big fan of them tonight.

Anyone who loves rebounds gets a tp from me....but don't tell anyone here you agreed with ME...LOL
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 09, 2010, 08:45:00 PM
maybe wafer will have a big game...he can slash...he just needs to dunk a few.....he is like...an almost...player.....
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: snively on December 09, 2010, 08:45:11 PM
The Baby/Pierce frontcourt is not viable.  Just play Gody, doc.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: snively on December 09, 2010, 08:46:05 PM
maybe wafer will have a big game...he can slash...he just needs to dunk a few.....he is like...an almost...player.....

Am I the only one who has a hard time understanding what meadow says?
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: ejk3489 on December 09, 2010, 08:46:17 PM
Ouch 32 pts given up in the first quarter? Not good...hopefully we'll pick up the intensity.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Change on December 09, 2010, 08:48:17 PM
KG getting outmuscled inside early. You see why he needed a dominate big in Minnesota. Here he has Perk and ShaQ to do his dirty work. finesse is his game.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 09, 2010, 08:48:24 PM
maybe wafer will have a big game...he can slash...he just needs to dunk a few.....he is like...an almost...player.....

Am I the only one who has a hard time understanding what meadow says?

maybe you should then just ask him.....or let it go by......
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 09, 2010, 08:50:15 PM
nice block by bbd..what is the #1 rule when saving the ball...NEVER throw it under you own hoop..!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: snively on December 09, 2010, 08:54:51 PM
Our lack of bigs is killing us on the boards.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 09, 2010, 08:54:55 PM
KG getting outmuscled inside early. You see why he needed a dominate big in Minnesota. Here he has Perk and ShaQ to do his dirty work. finesse is his game.

You are right...good point, the shaq and or perk give him room...
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: misha on December 09, 2010, 08:56:48 PM
76ers already took 9 offensive rebounds. Hard to win when you allow so many second chance points.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 09, 2010, 08:57:12 PM
I like when nate is on....he cqan be quite a scorer, and pretty efficient too....
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 09, 2010, 08:59:59 PM
I really don't care for wafer,,I like west more....i know he is hurt...but i still think wafer has some good scoring ability..but he is out of the team flow...maybe give him some time with the fisrt unit, rondo, pp, kg, shaq..so he is more of a later option......get some space and confidence....
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: makaveli on December 09, 2010, 09:03:27 PM
Ray touched the ball once, get him involved. Also we need to get to the line
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: snively on December 09, 2010, 09:05:33 PM
Ray Allen greatly overestimates his ball-handling prowess.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: slamtheking on December 09, 2010, 09:06:59 PM
Ray touched the ball once, get him involved. Also we need to get to the line
as long as he's getting the ball ready to shoot.  in the past few trips up the floor when Ray has tried dribbling the ball, he's been a TO waiting to happen
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: slamtheking on December 09, 2010, 09:08:35 PM
Ray Allen greatly overestimates his ball-handling prowess.
agreed.  I've felt that way since we traded for him. 

above average shooter.  below average ball handler.  he's much better getting the ball delivered to him ready to shoot or with no more than a couple of dribbles to take a shot
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: slamtheking on December 09, 2010, 09:09:07 PM
beautiful block and nice 3 by Nate    :o
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: slamtheking on December 09, 2010, 09:09:57 PM
nice shot by Rondo.  smooth and confident. 
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: angryguy77 on December 09, 2010, 09:11:27 PM
Lack of d is nauseating.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: snively on December 09, 2010, 09:12:46 PM
Sloppy game.  The heavy doses of small-ball have the Celtics playing a much faster pace than they're accustomed to.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: makaveli on December 09, 2010, 09:13:47 PM
We really miss both O'Neals right now...
LOL Baby got called for 3 fouls and took a charge in like 20 sec span
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Mike-Dub on December 09, 2010, 09:17:11 PM
Hey guys quick question.  For the out of market fans what do you guys do for your pre and post game?
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 09, 2010, 09:17:57 PM
Def miss shaq..JO...what is it with him....wonder if he will make the season...
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: angryguy77 on December 09, 2010, 09:19:09 PM
Hey guys quick question.  For the out of market fans what do you guys do for your pre and post game?

Add more pins to my Kobe and Lebron dolls
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: snively on December 09, 2010, 09:21:41 PM
It would be nice to see some better D in the 2nd half.

I'm not sure we can do much better on the boards without our centers.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 09, 2010, 09:22:06 PM
Hey guys quick question.  For the out of market fans what do you guys do for your pre and post game?

Add more pins to my Kobe and Lebron dolls

Give them both cement shoes....! They live on the coast..!
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 09, 2010, 09:22:41 PM
The C's are tired from last night's game...
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: ejk3489 on December 09, 2010, 09:23:20 PM
Def miss shaq..JO...what is it with him....wonder if he will make the season...

I know JO is doing the best he can to get back, but it's still maddening that we signed him for the MLE and he has barely seen the court so far this season.

Mind as well have signed Sheed.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 09, 2010, 09:24:38 PM
ooh the patriots are playing in Chicago this weekend...talk about cold...!
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: slamtheking on December 09, 2010, 09:26:25 PM
PP needs to show some more life in the second half.  seems like he's just going through the motions on offense and hoping the refs will bail him out. 

might be a good night to try Gody in the lineup to see what he can do on the boards.  he certainly can't hurt at this point.  he'll bring a little fire to the court which the whole team could really use right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 09, 2010, 09:28:03 PM
Ya, try gody...for sure......i don't mind seeing bradley also......
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: LooseCannon on December 09, 2010, 09:34:43 PM
Ya, try gody...for sure......i don't mind seeing bradley also......

I think I'd want to use Harangody in a lineup where Glen Davis isn't the other big.  I'd like to see Bradley get minutes playing next to Rondo.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: ballin on December 09, 2010, 09:44:17 PM
Oh man. Semih is looking awful out there. He better shape up before he gives the haters any more aummunition
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: slamtheking on December 09, 2010, 09:45:28 PM
still not seeing much life out of the C's this half.  doesn't bode well
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: angryguy77 on December 09, 2010, 09:46:30 PM
Unreal, he gets ft out of that????
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: slamtheking on December 09, 2010, 09:46:54 PM
wow, Brand just got that O board with KG standing right there.   :P
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: ballin on December 09, 2010, 09:47:13 PM
Unreal, he gets ft out of that????

well, he shot the ball after he got fouled. i felt like that was 10x more legit than the majority of continuation calls that go on in the NBA
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: slamtheking on December 09, 2010, 09:48:30 PM
jeez, exhibit 100000 why Ray is not a playmaker   :-\
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: angryguy77 on December 09, 2010, 09:49:48 PM
This is getting maddening. I know we're a little thin but there is no excuse for this effort
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: ejk3489 on December 09, 2010, 09:50:45 PM
Yikes this is such a maddening game...we should be blowing them out right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: snively on December 09, 2010, 09:51:42 PM
Ray with one of the worst oop passes of all time.

Erden is killing our team D.  Constantly out of position.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: slamtheking on December 09, 2010, 09:54:42 PM
PP is killing us on the floor.  if he's under the weather, get him out and put in either Daniels or Gody to get someone with either defensive/ballhandling skill of some fire to play
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: albas89 on December 09, 2010, 09:57:37 PM
PP is killing us on the floor.  if he's under the weather, get him out and put in either Daniels or Gody to get someone with either defensive/ballhandling skill of some fire to play
TP for stating the obvious... Pierce just didnt come out to play tonight!!
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: angryguy77 on December 09, 2010, 09:58:27 PM
Someone remind me why I'm bothering to watch this game
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: snively on December 09, 2010, 09:58:43 PM
Arghh
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: slamtheking on December 09, 2010, 09:58:58 PM
wow, just no effort or intelligent play out there.  It's like watching a game from the second half of last year. 

Where's Sheed?   ???  he's a Philly guy---did he stop by the locker room before the game?

Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: vinnie on December 09, 2010, 09:59:38 PM
PP is killing us on the floor.  if he's under the weather, get him out and put in either Daniels or Gody to get someone with either defensive/ballhandling skill of some fire to play
TP for stating the obvious... Pierce just didnt come out to play tonight!!

Pierce has the flu. Probably should not be playing.

As far as the defense goes, with Semih on the floor, the whole concept of team defense disappears. Also, it is clear Rondo cannot move well enough to guard anyone.

Probably will take a miracle to win this one tonight, but longer term I am extremely concerned with all of these injuries, especially Rondo's.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: ballin on December 09, 2010, 09:59:42 PM
PP is killing us on the floor.  if he's under the weather, get him out and put in either Daniels or Gody to get someone with either defensive/ballhandling skill of some fire to play
TP for stating the obvious... Pierce just didnt come out to play tonight!!

truth. pierce didn't come out to play, semih is looking bad, and davis really hasn't been himself either. that, combined with letting the 76ers get whatever shots they want, has led to a pretty ugly game.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: celticinorlando on December 09, 2010, 10:00:01 PM
nice effort tonight Boston. letting a very bad sixer team run all over you has no defense
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: slamtheking on December 09, 2010, 10:00:22 PM
Someone remind me why I'm bothering to watch this game
ditto

it's games like this that remind me why I don't buy regular season tickets any more.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: celticinorlando on December 09, 2010, 10:01:21 PM
i had to turn it off. they make me very angry on nights like this...and i dont want to be angry tonight
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: vinnie on December 09, 2010, 10:01:25 PM
I am usually really hard on the Celts when they play like this, but think you have to give them a break tonight. They started their 4th string center who has little clue about team defense, Rondo is playing on bad feet and a tight hamstring, and Pierce is sick. I would rather have Doc not even played Pierce and Rondo tonight, rather than play them and still lose.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: celticinorlando on December 09, 2010, 10:02:19 PM
I am usually really hard on the Celts when they play like this, but think you have to give them a break tonight. They started their 4th string center who has little clue about team defense, Rondo is playing on bad feet and a tight hamstring, and Pierce is sick. I would rather have Doc not even played Pierce and Rondo tonight, rather than play them and still lose.


naw...even on a back to back and their issues they should be able to beat this crappy sixer team. they aren't putting forth any effort
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: slamtheking on December 09, 2010, 10:04:31 PM
I am usually really hard on the Celts when they play like this, but think you have to give them a break tonight. They started their 4th string center who has little clue about team defense, Rondo is playing on bad feet and a tight hamstring, and Pierce is sick. I would rather have Doc not even played Pierce and Rondo tonight, rather than play them and still lose.
that may have resulted in better play for the team.  Doc would have to play Bradley and Gody (well, not really with Doc, he very well could ride the vets into the ground in that case) and those two, while not experience or as good as Rondo or PP needless to say, would at least hustle out there.  I think that's the one thing I find hard to excuse is the lack of effort
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: vinnie on December 09, 2010, 10:04:52 PM
I am usually really hard on the Celts when they play like this, but think you have to give them a break tonight. They started their 4th string center who has little clue about team defense, Rondo is playing on bad feet and a tight hamstring, and Pierce is sick. I would rather have Doc not even played Pierce and Rondo tonight, rather than play them and still lose.


naw...even on a back to back and their issues they should be able to beat this crappy sixer team. they aren't putting forth any effort

Sixers have won 5 in a row at home and 4 of their last 5 overall. I usually am with you, but disagree 100 percent tonight.

Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: slamtheking on December 09, 2010, 10:05:42 PM
Rondo never ceases to amaze, even on his off nights
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: snively on December 09, 2010, 10:07:27 PM
Rondo should bank his free throws too.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: ChainSmokingLikeDino on December 09, 2010, 10:09:00 PM
I am usually really hard on the Celts when they play like this, but think you have to give them a break tonight. They started their 4th string center who has little clue about team defense, Rondo is playing on bad feet and a tight hamstring, and Pierce is sick. I would rather have Doc not even played Pierce and Rondo tonight, rather than play them and still lose.


naw...even on a back to back and their issues they should be able to beat this crappy sixer team. they aren't putting forth any effort

Sixers have won 5 in a row at home and 4 of their last 5 overall. I usually am with you, but disagree 100 percent tonight.



I agree Vinnie. A)This Sixers team actually matches up well against the C's, with their proclivity to run, etc. Their strengths go right up against our weaknesses. B) One can't dismiss injuries, sickness, back-to-backs, etc. I think the whole not giving any effort thing is usually a pipe-dream critique and not particularly realistic or looking at things properly. I really haven't seen a lack of effort tonight, just a team not having its best night.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: bruinsandceltics on December 09, 2010, 10:13:03 PM
Tuned in late. Can someone tell me why Shaq isn't playing?
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: slamtheking on December 09, 2010, 10:13:34 PM
I am usually really hard on the Celts when they play like this, but think you have to give them a break tonight. They started their 4th string center who has little clue about team defense, Rondo is playing on bad feet and a tight hamstring, and Pierce is sick. I would rather have Doc not even played Pierce and Rondo tonight, rather than play them and still lose.


naw...even on a back to back and their issues they should be able to beat this crappy sixer team. they aren't putting forth any effort

Sixers have won 5 in a row at home and 4 of their last 5 overall. I usually am with you, but disagree 100 percent tonight.



I agree Vinnie. A)This Sixers team actually matches up well against the C's, with their proclivity to run, etc. Their strengths go right up against our weaknesses. B) One can't dismiss injuries, sickness, back-to-backs, etc. I think the whole not giving any effort thing is usually a pipe-dream critique and not particularly realistic or looking at things properly. I really haven't seen a lack of effort tonight, just a team not having its best night.
I've got to disagree there -- and not just because I'm complaining about the effort. 

to me, effort includes boxing out.  moving feet on D, making smart passes on O and making smart plays on O rather than hoping the refs bail you out.  C's aren't doing those things tonight.  If they were doing those things, they'd be up 10-12 right now just by cutting out a reasonable number of Sixer O boards, staying in front of their man and not turning the ball over.

having said that, I have no idea how they're still managing to hang around in this game.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: indeedproceed on December 09, 2010, 10:14:12 PM
lol @ Reggie Miller taking a page out of Marc Jackson's "Raise the volume of your voice while going to commercial" book.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: PosImpos on December 09, 2010, 10:15:47 PM
The Celtics clearly aren't playing their best tonight - and the absence of Shaq can't be understated as a factor in that - but I don't feel as though it's effort.  The Sixers are playing a good game and the Celtics are having trouble, in no small part because they have a banged up roster.

It's annoying, but I'm not feeling too down on the team about their play tonight, regardless of what the final result is.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: PosImpos on December 09, 2010, 10:18:21 PM
Marquis Daniels is INVISIBLE out there.  He doesn't seem to bring really anything at all to the floor.

Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Who on December 09, 2010, 10:19:38 PM
The lack of depth and flexibility on the wing is being exposed in these small ball lineups.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: PosImpos on December 09, 2010, 10:20:20 PM
The lack of depth and versatility on the wing is being exposed in these small ball lineups.

Yeah.  Marquis is a non-factor on offense and we can't rely on Von Wafer at all.  We desperately need a real backup small forward who can defend AND stretch the floor.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: snively on December 09, 2010, 10:21:50 PM
This is one of those nights where Rondo's going to have to step up and score.  Pierce is way off.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: albas89 on December 09, 2010, 10:25:17 PM
Rondo is also said to be having to face with flu-like symptoms but he's still leading the team and putting on some effort... Pierce is on a slump for the last 2 weeks,its not the flu!he's just painful to watch...

Marquis is also not playing well at all! I wouldnt mind to see Harangody on the floor right now!
I think we should go to the Rondo-KG pick'n'pop and play some good D out there... and hope that Ray will get hot there at the end!
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: PosImpos on December 09, 2010, 10:29:29 PM
Rondo is also said to be having to face with flu-like symptoms but he's still leading the team and putting on some effort... Pierce is on a slump for the last 2 weeks,its not the flu!he's just painful to watch...

Marquis is also not playing well at all! I wouldnt mind to see Harangody on the floor right now!
I think we should go to the Rondo-KG pick'n'pop and play some good D out there... and hope that Ray will get hot there at the end!



It's painful enough to watch Big Baby try to defend athletic / bigger players like Thaddeus Young and Elton Brand.  I do not want to have to see Harangody attempt to defend any of the Sixers.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: snively on December 09, 2010, 10:30:10 PM
I hate when we become so reliant on Baby to score.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Who on December 09, 2010, 10:30:40 PM
Celtics have an advantage at center (KG over Brand), shooting guard (Ray over Meeks) and point guard (Rondo over Jrue). They are neutral at the three (Pierce and Iggy) and are at a disadvantage at the four (BBD vs T.Young).

This lineup should win them the game.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: dixonsupreme on December 09, 2010, 10:33:23 PM
Another last minute collapse? Come on now.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Who on December 09, 2010, 10:33:57 PM
The offense should be going through KG, Rondo and Ray.

Brand can't defend Garnett in the post or in face up opportunities. Brand also cannot defend a Rondo + KG pick and roll. The Celtics should attack him.

Meeks cannot deny Ray scoring opportunities when Ray is running off of screens.

Jrue Holiday can do a pretty solid job in one-on-one situations against Rondo ... so Rondo needs to look for holes in Phily's team defense to get his baskets. Either with his passing or scoring.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: PosImpos on December 09, 2010, 10:34:23 PM
Ray bails us out again...let's see if we can actually play some defense and hold onto this lead.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: snively on December 09, 2010, 10:34:46 PM
Are the Sixers insane?
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: dixonsupreme on December 09, 2010, 10:35:43 PM
I guess that's not too late, Ray.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: LilRip on December 09, 2010, 10:36:42 PM
let's go C's!

(sidenote: i would've liked to see Bradley get some playing time. Rondo's been in there for 46 min!)
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: PosImpos on December 09, 2010, 10:36:52 PM
Ugh, I cringe whenever Big Baby gets the ball late in games.  Luckily that time it worked out.  We can't seem to come up with a stop, though.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: PosImpos on December 09, 2010, 10:37:35 PM
let's go C's!

(sidenote: i would've liked to see Bradley get some playing time. Rondo's been in there for 46 min!)

Yeah, seriously.  Rondo is injured...how bad could Bradley be?  If not Bradley, at least play Nate more minutes.  Rondo shouldn't be playing more than 40 minutes (ideally more like 35) when he's batting injuries like this.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: snively on December 09, 2010, 10:38:20 PM
Some crazy makes from the Sixers in the 4th.  That Iggy bucket and everything Meeks has been putting in.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: albas89 on December 09, 2010, 10:40:31 PM
they are playing against us, you shouldnt be surprised... ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: PosImpos on December 09, 2010, 10:40:38 PM
Awful.  Just awful.

"Championship defense" can't come up with a stop late.  Between getting killed on the offensive glass and playing like crap late in the game, this game feels like last season all over again.

At least we have an excuse for the loss...starting a 4th string center and 2 of our other starters battling injuries / sickness.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Who on December 09, 2010, 10:41:46 PM
Nice drive by Iggy
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: dixonsupreme on December 09, 2010, 10:42:22 PM
Where's that come from?

Christ.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: snively on December 09, 2010, 10:43:00 PM
Iggy is pretty clutch against us.  Hopefully Pierce is ready.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: PosImpos on December 09, 2010, 10:43:11 PM
Wow.  Great finish to a painful (yet entertaining) game.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: ChainSmokingLikeDino on December 09, 2010, 10:43:47 PM
Great play drawn up by Doc there. Win is a win.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: houseonfire09 on December 09, 2010, 10:43:49 PM
I love this team!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: greg683x on December 09, 2010, 10:43:50 PM
As p---ed Rod Thorn was before we ran that play, I'd hate to see him now.

was that Doug Collins he was screaming at??  Hilarious
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: makaveli on December 09, 2010, 10:44:04 PM
Beauty of a game :)
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: DinTN on December 09, 2010, 10:44:21 PM
Take the W!  :)
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: nickagneta on December 09, 2010, 10:44:25 PM
What an outstanding ending to an unbelievably entertaining game!!!!

WTG C's!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on December 09, 2010, 10:44:32 PM
The Green does it again!!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: drza44 on December 09, 2010, 10:44:46 PM
Nice!  That's Nice!  Freaky like my lady pyramid!
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Fafnir on December 09, 2010, 10:44:50 PM
Awesome play by the C's out of the time out. Great pass by Rondo and great finish by KG.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Neurotic Guy on December 09, 2010, 10:45:02 PM
Wow.  Found a way to win a game that just didn't seem in the cards tonight.  Terrific win -- tired, shorthanded.  Great!
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: angryguy77 on December 09, 2010, 10:45:17 PM
Now that was a ghame we had no business winning....but I'll take it
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: LilRip on December 09, 2010, 10:45:31 PM
WOW!! great look by Rondo to recognize the mismatch!!! terrific finish by KG. would've loved a dunk though, just to end the game with an exclamation point, but man. what a gutsy play!
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Thruthelookingglass on December 09, 2010, 10:46:25 PM
Great play drawn up by Doc there. Win is a win.

Wow, beautiful play.  That was so easy as to be almost anticlimactic.  I'll take it!
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Mike-Dub on December 09, 2010, 10:46:57 PM
What a drawn up play by Doc and pass by Rondo.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: albas89 on December 09, 2010, 10:47:23 PM
KGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG....I LOVE YOU MAN, I EFFING LOVE YA!!! ;D
Great play drawn by Doc and perfect execution!! everybody on the Sixers team was expecting a jump shot by either Pierce or Allen and they really got caught sleeping down low with the switches!

what a game!!! phewwww, that was tough...
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: radiohead on December 09, 2010, 10:47:40 PM
what a perfect play! good job celts!
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Adelaide Celt on December 09, 2010, 10:47:49 PM
YEEEEESSSS!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: snively on December 09, 2010, 10:49:57 PM
What a nice surprise.  Had a loss written all over it.  Very ballsy play by Doc, made all the more unpredictable by our typical Pierce iso.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Nowee on December 09, 2010, 10:53:40 PM
KG saved the day!
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Tai on December 09, 2010, 10:56:48 PM
Wow, just wow. What a game. And what a play by Doc. And nice execution by Rondo and KG.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: ejk3489 on December 09, 2010, 10:57:51 PM
Wow I love this team, great win...TP for all!
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Megatron on December 09, 2010, 10:59:34 PM
Most entertaining game ive seen all season.

This team is incredible. Were missing half of our roster and we win vs an ultra-young, quick and athletic 76ers team on their home floor while we are playing on the second night of a back-to-back?

Amazing.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Witch-King on December 09, 2010, 11:07:17 PM
Andre Iguodala had a clutch play towards the end there however Kevin Garnett and the Celtics had one more trick play up their sleeves in order to come away victorious at the Wachovia Center.

The Boston Celtics are now a game away from a ten game winning-streak; all that would be needed is a win against the Charlotte Bobcats on Saturday Night. It's a shame to see Iguodala and Elton Brand lose a close one as they both had solid games tonight.

Always nice to see Ray Allen have a good shooting night. Perfect from the line, 7-10 field goals and 2-3 from the 3 point arc. Only 71 3's left (according to wikipedia) until Ray Allen surpasses Reggie Miller on the All-Time 3 point field goals made list.

I can't believe people thought that it would be boring to watch Ray Allen score a ton of 3's this season.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Fafnir on December 09, 2010, 11:08:33 PM
Most entertaining game ive seen all season.

This team is incredible. Were missing half of our roster and we win vs an ultra-young, quick and athletic 76ers team on their home floor while we are playing on the second night of a back-to-back?

Amazing.
They're not all ultra quick, Brand moves like a dinosaur.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: CelticSooner on December 09, 2010, 11:17:25 PM
Doc may very well be the best coach when it comes to drawing up a play late in games. 9 in a row!
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: RebusRankin on December 09, 2010, 11:50:24 PM
Heck of an ending.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on December 09, 2010, 11:52:12 PM
All things considered -- second night of a back-to-back, no Shaq, only one active center (Semih), road game -- this was a quality win for Boston. Found a way to hang in there against a young, athletic team, Doc drew up a good play at the end, and it was well-executed. Nice work, fellas.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Jon on December 10, 2010, 12:06:12 AM
I was at the game.  While it was nice considering that they had only one center, they clearly didn't come out strong in the first half.  They didn't try on defense at all most of the first three quarters.  On one hand I get it.  They don't necessarily need their A-Game to beat the Sixers.  However, if they had come out early hard, they likely could've come out to an early lead and played the starters fewer minutes. 

I guess it also must send mixed messages when they're expected to win this game, but winning this game isn't important enough to play Shaq (who could've played had the game been more important). 

Still, they won, so I guess I can't be too upset. 
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Adelaide Celt on December 10, 2010, 01:00:21 AM
Just seen the box score, only 46 seconds of rest for Rondo :o :-\
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: jdpapa3 on December 10, 2010, 02:26:28 AM

At least we have an excuse for the loss

you were saying?
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Drucci on December 10, 2010, 04:29:34 AM
Just saw the game... a classic frustrating one! Fortunately we came up with the win, otherwise it would have been terribly hard for me to swallow a loss when Doc overplays the starters like that on a back to back.

Anyway, we had good stretches but for the most part we sucked or were "off" (see the Sixers 2nd chance points or offensive rebounds). Ray came up huge in the last minutes. I was thinking that Doc would go with the usual Pierce iso for the game winner so I wasn't confident about our chances of winning but it was a really good surprise to see the Rondo/KG play, although I'm not sure it was really the plan. Nice to see KG steal the inbounds pass shortly after as a bonus! The Sixers fans were heartbroken :P

Anyway I just hope Doc stops overplaying the starters even if it means "sacrificing" some wins, because at this rate Rondo will be out for the playoffs and the Big Three pretty tired. I wonder if Marquis is OK, he attempted only one shot in this game because he basically couldn't pass it up, but he wore some stuff on his thumb after last night's hit... hope it's nothing.

9 in a row and another Orlando defeat is great though, keep it up but don't overplay the key guys!
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Cman on December 10, 2010, 08:22:47 AM
I was thinking that Doc would go with the usual Pierce iso for the game winner so I wasn't confident about our chances of winning but it was a really good surprise to see the Rondo/KG play, although I'm not sure it was really the plan. Nice to see KG steal the inbounds pass shortly after as a bonus!

Yes, it was a nice play, but agreed, not sure it was the main play they wanted.

I hope there's more like this.  The more that Doc mixes the last plays between PP, RA, KG, the better -- it will keep opponents guessing.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: jr_3421 on December 10, 2010, 09:04:25 AM
I was thinking that Doc would go with the usual Pierce iso for the game winner so I wasn't confident about our chances of winning but it was a really good surprise to see the Rondo/KG play, although I'm not sure it was really the plan. Nice to see KG steal the inbounds pass shortly after as a bonus!

Yes, it was a nice play, but agreed, not sure it was the main play they wanted.

I hope there's more like this.  The more that Doc mixes the last plays between PP, RA, KG, the better -- it will keep opponents guessing.

I think during out of bounds plays, Doc usually draws up creative plays and stays away from straight isos, especially with under 10 secs to play.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Eddie20 on December 10, 2010, 09:08:00 AM
I think this was a strategic day off for Shaq. We play 3 games in 4 days and probably felt we could give them the night off vs. the Sixers bigs.

Agree with the minutes of our Big 4. Really surprised Wafer didn't see more action. He hit his only shot, a 3, and was really aggressive on D. Almost forcing a TO on Turner during one play. Again, he should've had received more run.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Fafnir on December 10, 2010, 04:51:40 PM
I was thinking that Doc would go with the usual Pierce iso for the game winner so I wasn't confident about our chances of winning but it was a really good surprise to see the Rondo/KG play, although I'm not sure it was really the plan. Nice to see KG steal the inbounds pass shortly after as a bonus!

Yes, it was a nice play, but agreed, not sure it was the main play they wanted.

I hope there's more like this.  The more that Doc mixes the last plays between PP, RA, KG, the better -- it will keep opponents guessing.

I think during out of bounds plays, Doc usually draws up creative plays and stays away from straight isos, especially with under 10 secs to play.
He'll call for the iso if we're up and/or if we're tied more frequently. If we're down he's much more aggressive.
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: CelticG1 on December 10, 2010, 05:32:09 PM
I was thinking that Doc would go with the usual Pierce iso for the game winner so I wasn't confident about our chances of winning but it was a really good surprise to see the Rondo/KG play, although I'm not sure it was really the plan. Nice to see KG steal the inbounds pass shortly after as a bonus!

Yes, it was a nice play, but agreed, not sure it was the main play they wanted.

I hope there's more like this.  The more that Doc mixes the last plays between PP, RA, KG, the better -- it will keep opponents guessing.

I think during out of bounds plays, Doc usually draws up creative plays and stays away from straight isos, especially with under 10 secs to play.
He'll call for the iso if we're up and/or if we're tied more frequently. If we're down he's much more aggressive.

Yeah, if we are down it's ok to take a risk like this. A play like this would be kind of stupid IMO if we were up or tied because of all the things that could go wrong (mainly turning the ball over) If we are up or tied %100 every time go with the ISO
Title: Re: Celtics (17-4) at Sixers (7-14) 12/9
Post by: Celtics4ever on December 10, 2010, 06:48:02 PM
 A win is a win but it was a close call those young legs almost kicked us.