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Around the League => Transaction Ideas and Rumors => Topic started by: rondohondo on February 17, 2010, 08:39:24 PM
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http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/64800/20100217/report_warriors_rejected_mayo_for_monta_offer/
The Golden State Warriors have reportedly rejected an offer for Monta Ellis from Memphis that would have included O.J. Mayo and salary cap filler, according to multiple sources Via Mercury News
I would be all over this if I was GSW . What are they doing?
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Wow, they're completely [misguided] if they turned down Mayo for Ellis.
The Grizzlies are totally, bafflingly stupid if they considered Mayo for Ellis.
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[Edited. Please watch the use of offensive language.]
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Wow, I misread the headline at first and thought the Grizzlies turned down an offer of Ellis for Mayo and was thinking to myself "rightly so, Mayo is far more valuable than Ellis".
But the Grizzlies offered up Mayo for Ellis? What are they doing?
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Wow, they're completely [misguided] if they turned down Mayo for Ellis.
The Grizzlies are totally, bafflingly stupid if they considered Mayo for Ellis.
We've heard in the past that Mayo and Gay don't get along. This might be further evidence of that, along with an apparent preference for Gay over Mayo by the Grizzlies front office.
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So much for the theory that Memphis were looking to move Mike Conley in order to make OJ Mayo their PG of the future.
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i'd suggest a threeway where Ray goes to GS, Memphis gets Ellis and Boston gets Mayo, but it's already been made clear that GOlden State laughed at Ainge when he tried to trade Ray for Ellis.
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i'd suggest a threeway where Ray goes to GS, Memphis gets Ellis and Boston gets Mayo, but it's already been made clear that GOlden State laughed at Ainge when he tried to trade Ray for Ellis.
How about
Bos sends: Ray + Perk + 1st
Bos gets: Mayo + Beindris(sp?)
GSW sends: Ellis + Biedrins
GSW gets: Ray , Perk + 1st
Mem sends : Oj Mayo + filler
Mem gets : Ellis
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Chris Wallace at it again.
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Too bad Warriors rejected it. Would've been interesting to see Monta in Memphis. And OJ going back to the west coast. Bold move by Memphis, I like. Rudy Gay+Monta Ellis=Coach's Dream. But if you Put a scorer like OJ on the warriors he would be 20+ppg scorer. Maybe a little downside from Monta but not much for the warriors.
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http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ygh3w7p
Boston Received: Rudy Gay
Memphis Received: Tony Allen and Brian Scalabrine ;D
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I just read the report -- the offer was made at the start of the season. Not recently.
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Monta is from Memphis, which might explain part of that.
But he may also be on the move as part of a TMac trade.
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I think them wanting Monta Ellis is more to do with him being from Mississippi & wanting to sell more tickets than it does talent. Im was Born in Memphis so I do know that Miss is only 20-25 minutes away from Memphis driving. Plus it is not so much difference in talent.
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I just read the report -- the offer was made at the start of the season. Not recently.
That would make sense. Theres no way the offer gets proposed/rejected today.
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Wow, they're completely retarded if they turned down Mayo for Ellis.
The Grizzlies are totally, bafflingly stupid if they considered Mayo for Ellis.
let's try not to throw around the "r" word...it's offensive
okay. they're completely "very very stupid" if they turned down Mayo for Ellis.
I think he's trying to say that you should say the Grizzlies are completely autistic if they considered trading Mayo for Ellis.
No wait... that can't be right. I'm messing up my political correctness.
mentally handicapped i believe is the P.C. term. autistic is something different.
the idea here is that it's offensive to compare people who may be bad at their jobs to people who have special needs, as in reality said people who are bad at their jobs in fact do not have special needs. It's not about being PC, it's about being respectful. People with special needs are amazing in what they do, the day to day struggles they overcome, and throwing around language like this diminishes those who really do have special needs. FYI: Mental retardation is a condition where one has an IQ of 70 or lower. To me, throwing around "retard" is about as bad as using a racial or ethnic slur, yet people don't think twice about it. Shame really. Hopefully some people can learn here.
TP.
I think both participants in that conversation should be reprimanded. Yet as usual, the Mods dont like to touch this subject. If it was a racial slur on the other hand............THREAD LOCKED.
Edgar, sorry for belaboring the point, but as a Mod and someone who is pursuing a Masters in Special Education so that I can have the privilege, and I do mean privilege, of teaching children with Special Needs I feel the need to chime in. Yes, the term is offensive, and no, I would not treat it any differently than a racial slur if I had been around to see it. I don't know that I would necessarily lock a thread, but I would certainly issue a warning, as I'm sure any of my fellow mods would. You can call it PC, or whatever, but mostly using the term "retard" is mean and juvenile and doesn't really belong here.
I'll echo what CDIF said, and reiterate what DL suggested. We are not omnipresent. If something offends you, bring it to our attention, and we'll look into it.
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Ken Berger claims that the trade offer was made 10 days ago
The Warriors decided to keep Monta Ellis, whom they refused to send to Memphis in a larger package that would've included Mayo -- a scenario that was broached about 10 days before the deadline but never gained any traction.
Not at the start of the season, or least not solely at the start of the season, like Tim Kawakami reported.
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Ken Berger claims that the trade offer was made 10 days ago
The Warriors decided to keep Monta Ellis, whom they refused to send to Memphis in a larger package that would've included Mayo -- a scenario that was broached about 10 days before the deadline but never gained any traction.
Not at the start of the season, or least not solely at the start of the season, like Tim Kawakami reported.
Who, I know you've been pretty vocal about locking Mayo in at the PG position.
What would've your thoughts been on a Mayo/Curry backcourt? Think it would've worked?
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Psst... Ellis is better than Mayo. If I were the Golden State GM, I would turn it down too.
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I think them wanting Monta Ellis is more to do with him being from Mississippi & wanting to sell more tickets than it does talent. Im was Born in Memphis so I do know that Miss is only 20-25 minutes away from Memphis driving. Plus it is not so much difference in talent.
Monta is from Jackson which is 4 hours away from Memphis.
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Ken Berger claims that the trade offer was made 10 days ago
The Warriors decided to keep Monta Ellis, whom they refused to send to Memphis in a larger package that would've included Mayo -- a scenario that was broached about 10 days before the deadline but never gained any traction.
Not at the start of the season, or least not solely at the start of the season, like Tim Kawakami reported.
Who, I know you've been pretty vocal about locking Mayo in at the PG position.
What would've your thoughts been on a Mayo/Curry backcourt? Think it would've worked?
No, I don't think so. I think Curry is point guard too. I greatly dislike the idea of Curry playing as an off guard. At least Mayo is a good solid player as a two guard (not an elite player but a good 30-35 minute a night player). Curry wouldn't be -- far less effective defensively + rebounding and less involved as a passer which is a major problem because he's a gifted passer.
Mayo would have continued his development as a two guard and never fulfilled his potential while Curry would have remained on a similar track. Actually, he'd better off with Mayo than Ellis.
The Warriors should build around Steph Curry at the point. He'll be one of the most deadly offensive point guards in the league in a couple of years with his shooting ability + scoring ability + passing ability + vision + decision making + composure. Steph Curry and Anthony Randolph are Golden State's two most valuable pieces. Anthony Morrow would be my pick for third place.
I still would have made the deal if I were GSW. I think Mayo is the better trade asset and could have been flipped for a superior talent than they can get for Monta Ellis.
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Psst... Ellis is better than Mayo. If I were the Golden State GM, I would turn it down too.
But Mayo is way more cost effective in the forseeable future. Golden State is going nowhere as its presently constructed.
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No, I don't think so. I think Curry is point guard too. I greatly dislike the idea of Curry playing as an off guard. At least Mayo is a good solid player as a two guard (not an elite player but a good 30-35 minute a night player). Curry wouldn't be -- far less effective defensively + rebounding and less involved as a passer which is a major problem because he's a gifted passer.
Mayo would have continued his development as a two guard and never fulfilled his potential while Curry would have remained on a similar track. Actually, he'd better off with Mayo than Ellis.
The Warriors should build around Steph Curry at the point. He'll be one of the most deadly offensive point guards in the league in a couple of years with his shooting ability + scoring ability + passing ability + vision + decision making + composure. Steph Curry and Anthony Randolph are Golden State's two most valuable pieces. Anthony Morrow would be my pick for third place.
I still would have made the deal if I were GSW. I think Mayo is the better trade asset and could have been flipped for a superior talent than they can get for Monta Ellis.
I watch a lot of Warriors and I would back up all of this. Curry, Randolph, Morrow and that draft pick. Forget the rest.
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this was both the stupidest deal offered in the entire trade deadline (the Grizzlies considering this) and the stupidest rejection of a trade ...
the Grizzlies are actually building something - this was the height of idiocy
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Psst... Ellis is better than Mayo. If I were the Golden State GM, I would turn it down too.
But Mayo is way more cost effective in the forseeable future. Golden State is going nowhere as its presently constructed.
And I think Mayo would be a better fit with Curry.
But the GS front office is full of chickens with their heads cut off.
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Psst... Ellis is better than Mayo. If I were the Golden State GM, I would turn it down too.
But Mayo is way more cost effective in the forseeable future. Golden State is going nowhere as its presently constructed.
And I think Mayo would be a better fit with Curry.
But the GS front office is full of chickens with their heads cut off.
at least Mike Dunleavy tried to do a good job - he was just incompetent
at least Chris Wallace tries to do a good job - his owner just thinks he is a GM
at least David Kahn tries to do a good job - he just knows nothing about the business
Don Nelson does not try to do a good job - Peter from Office Space is a paragon of office team spirit by comparison
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It was reported that it was Mayo and Thabeet for Ellis, but turned it down. Thabeet has been a disappointment, but he does have upside and it's not as though the Warriors have legitimate playoff hopes in the foreseeable future.
Besides Mayo's rookie contract, him being bigger than Ellis and better equipped to cover bigger 2's should've been more than enough reason for the Warriors to accept.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4946483
The Grizzlies, according to NBA front-office sources, offered Thabeet and second-year guard O.J. Mayo to the Golden State Warriors for Warriors guard Monta Ellis before the Feb. 18 trade deadline but were turned down.
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A good source on another forum says that Don Nelson wasn't even consulted about this trade.
From the tone of it, he doesn't seem to be very happy about it.
Wow.