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Title: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: FLCeltsFan on January 01, 2010, 01:17:22 AM
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Toronto Raptors (16-17) at Boston Celtics (23-8)
Saturday, January 2
7:30 PM ET
Regular Season Game #32, Home Game #15
TV:  CSN HD, TSN 2, LP 758
Radio WEEI, CJCL
TD Banknorth Garden 

(http://www.insidearenas.com/eastern/pictures/td2601.jpg)

(http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/.element/img/2.0/sect/basketball/nba/teampages/toppers/celtics_514x96.jpg)
Coach: Doc Rivers
Average Age: 27.9
Average Height: 6-6
Average Weight: 224


Probable Starters
(http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nba/profiles/players/65x90/4149.jpg) (http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/2367.jpg) (http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nba/profiles/players/65x90/3253.jpg) (http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/883.jpg) (http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nba/profiles/players/65x90/3730.jpg)
Rondo/  R Allen/  T Allen/  Wallace /  Perkins

Reserves

Bill Walker
Eddie House
Shelden Williams
Lester Hudson
JR Giddens
Brian Scalabrine

Injuries
Glen Davis (ankle) questionable
Paul Pierce (knee) out
Kevin Garnett (knee) questionable
Marquis Daniels (thumb)  out
Rajon Rondo (hamstring) probable

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Coach: Jay Triano
Average Age: 26.7
Average Height: 6-7
Average Weight: 226

Probable Starters

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Jack/ DeRozan/ Turkoglu/Bosh/ Bargnani

Reserves
Sonny Weems
Amir Johnson
Rasho Nesterovic
Marcus Banks
Marco Bellinelli
Pops Mensah-Bonsu
Patrick O'Bryant
Antoine Wright

Injuries
Reggie Evans (foot) out
Jose Calderon (hip) out
Hedo Turkoglu (knee)  probable 

Team Connections
Amir Johnson and Rasheed Wallace were teammates in Detroit from 2006-09
Marcus Banks was drafted by and  played for the Celtics from 2003-06
DeMar DeRozan and Brian Scalabrine are former USC Trojans
Reggie Evans and Ray Allen were teammates in Seattle from 2003-06
Rasho Nesterovic, Jarrett Jack and Marquis Daniels were teammates in Indiana during the 2008-09 season
Nesterovic and Kevin Garnett were teammates in Minnesota from
1998-2003
Patrick O’Bryant played forthe Celtics during the 2008-09 season

Key Matchups
(http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nba/boston/RondoBos.jpg)  vs  (http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nba/portland/JackPor.jpg)
Rajon Rondo vs Jarrett Jack
Rondo struggled through the Phoenix game with a sore hamstring.  He is probable for this game unless Doc decides to hold him out until he can get the whole team back healthy, which wouldn't be a bad idea.  Jack has been playing well in place of the injured Calderon.   

(http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nba/detroit/SheedDet.jpg)  vs  (http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nba/toronto/BoshTor.jpg)
Rasheed Wallace vs Chris Bosh
Chris Bosh has been playing very well in recent games.  In the past, he has played timidly against KG, but Sheed probably won't have the same effect on him.  Bosh leads all forwards with 24 double doubles and needs nust 39 points to tie Vince Carter as the team's all time leading scorer.  This will be a tough matchup for the Celtics and Sheed has got to play inside if he is going to counteract Bosh's play.

Honorable Mention
Tony Allen vs Hedo Turkoglu
Turkoglu is usually matched up with Pierce and gives him all he can handle.  However, Turkoglu left Wednesday's game with a knee contusion and may or may not play in this game.  It would be much better for the Celtics if he would sit out and rest in this one.  If he plays, Tony needs to be "good Tony" since Turkoglu seems to save his best games for the Celtics. 

Game Notes
• The Suns are currently leading the season series 1-0; Celtics won the season series 2-0 against the Suns in 2008-09
• Rajon Rondo led the Celtics with 27.5 points per game last season
• Steve Nash averaged 15.5 points per game in the two match-ups
• It marked the first time since the 2000-01 season that the Celtics had swept the season series.
• The Celtics are leading the all-time series 61-48 with the Celtics 35-18 at home

The Celtics will once again be missing several key players.  KG, Pierce, Big Baby and Daniels are all expected to miss this game.   Rondo may or may not play due to the sore hamstring.    The Raptors will be missing Calderon and possibly Turkoglu. 

The Raptors have won 5 games in a row and would love to keep their streak going.   The Celtics have lost 3 in a row and would very much love to stop their streak at 3.   

Winning this game isn't as important as making sure that the team is healthy for the stretch run and the playoffs so hopefully Doc will keep the players who need to rest their injuries out until they are 100 %.   This game is winnable for the Celtics even with the injuries if the others step up their games.   

Keys to The Game
Defense, Defense, Defense   The Celtics must find their defense again.  They have been allowing way too many open shots and easy baskets recently.  They need to get back to what has made them such a tough team.  Against the Raptors, they especially need to tighten up their perimeter defense as they are a very good 3 point shooting team. 

Rebound   The Celtics have to crash the boards on both ends.  Defensive rebounds prevent second chance opportunities for the Raptors and Offensive rebounds given them extra shots along with preventing the fast break for the Raptors.    Rebounding is mostly effort and desire and the Celtics need to be showing both of those things.  Sheed needs to play inside more and forget about the 3 point line. 

Take it To the Hoop
  The Celtics need to take the ball into the paint and either get the score or draw the foul.  Quick 3's are not good offense, especially the way they haven't been falling for them recently.   They need to run the offense and move the ball and make the extra pass. 

X-Factor
Injuries
Both teams have key injuries and the play  benches will be key to determining which team gets the win. 
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Bahku on January 01, 2010, 01:21:19 AM
The first game of the new decade ... we need everyone who's healthy to SHOW UP for this one ... and in a big way. I'm praying Sheed will realize his post-up potential and stop launching 3-point bricks, and that Ray is stroking it. Thanks for the awesome setup, Florida ... TP and Happy New Year!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: davemonsterband on January 01, 2010, 01:26:16 AM
I live in Toronto and I am the biggest Raptors hater on this site so I have something to say for a change.

First of all, Jose Calderon is the worst defender in the league, and his backup is in, so it's impossible for the Raptors to win because they're always playing catchup. Jack has his days, but against Rondo, it won't be one of those days.

KG being out is a downer but Sheed will do a good job on him. Perk'll have to help a lot but Bargniani's lack of lateral movement negates it.

Bargniani's a bum. Comparing him to Dirk makes me ill. He's a darn good shooter, I'll leave it at that.

Turkoglu no longer has D12 so he's playing to his potential again, meaning he's an above avg jump shooting European.

The Raptors play hard 3/4 of the games in a season and they play well 1/2 of those games, that's a flat out fact, no matter how thing go they'll give the game away.

Long story short, C's win 103-92.

I told you all about the Raptors, and how patterning yourself after Phoenix Sun will lead to porous defense, they're a terrible team, with a terrible future, with a terrible GM, and a terrible coach, run by a terrible corp., Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment.

Just wait, when Bosh leaves they're going to overpay Dirk and truly bury themselves.

I think I just threw up in my mouth. They play 20 min away and I can't go to a game til the C's are here, they make me sick.

Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Surferdad on January 01, 2010, 05:06:39 PM
Tommy point for you dmb.  Raptors have always been pretenders.  I'm convinced the American Bosh will come back to this country for a big payday next year.

FL, I think you mistakenly lefts a few "Suns" notes in there from your previous preview, or are those Raptor notes?

It'll be great to be home.  Looking forward to the boys drawing some energy from the crowd.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Who on January 02, 2010, 06:00:07 AM
The Raptors may be without Hedo Turkoglu (currently questionable) and are already without Jose Calderon. That gives them a perimeter rotation of Jarrett Jack, DeMar DeRozan, Sonny Weems, Marco Belinelli, Antoine Wright and Marcus Banks.

Is that really better than Ray Allen, Tony Allen, JR Giddens, Eddie House, and maybe some of Scal/Hudson/Walker?

If Hedo Turkoglu is fit, and does play, then I think the Raptors have a big advantage on the perimeter. But if Hedo sits out ... then I think the Celtics have a slight advantage on the perimeter.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Who on January 02, 2010, 06:05:20 AM
Kendrick Perkins + Rasheed Wallace + Shelden Williams + Brian Scalabrine vs Chris Bosh + Andrea Bargnani + Amir Johnson + maybe Rasho Nesterovic ... Big advantage with Chris Bosh but the Celtics' bigs are deeper.

Talent wise, if Hedo sits out, this could be a pretty close game. The Celtics still have enough defensive talent on the court to be a good defensive squad but are a poor offensive team. The Raptors are a good offensive team but a bottom five defensive team. That seems like a fairly close matchup to me (talent wise). This is shaping up to be an interesting game.

Of course, that's only if Hedo Turkoglu doesn't play. If he plays then I think the Raptors are strong favourites.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 06:08:35 AM
What a game this is shaping up to be!

TP FL, even though you messed up our starters pictures again haha :D Looks funny this time 'round.

Well, Rondo, KG, Pierce, Baby, Quisy... all of them out hurts us so badly that today might just be one of the games like Rayray had back in 'wauky & Seattle. He'll have to carry us and I'm hoping he's going to be really stepping it up this time.

Hey, maybe Perk will have an offensive fluke game, where he scores 30+. That'd be bloody awesome!


.edit:

Oh and FL, you didn't change the game notes either :P They're the Suns game notes ;)
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 06:09:44 AM
Kendrick Perkins + Rasheed Wallace + Shelden Williams + Brian Scalabrine vs Chris Bosh + Andrea Bargnani + Amir Johnson + maybe Rasho Nesterovic ... Big advantage with Chris Bosh but the Celtics' bigs are deeper.

Talent wise, if Hedo sits out, this could be a pretty close game. The Celtics still have enough defensive talent on the court to be a good defensive squad but are a poor offensive team. The Raptors are a good offensive team but a bottom five defensive team. That seems like a fairly close matchup to me (talent wise). This is shaping up to be an interesting game.

Of course, that's only if Hedo Turkoglu doesn't play. If he plays then I think the Raptors are strong favourites.

They're bottom 5 defensive? Hmmm... Walkertime baby :)

I really need to read up on the opposing teams more often. I have no idea who's what.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 08:12:34 AM
Agreed with what have been said, it all depends on whether Turkoglu plays or not. He usually plays very well against us and he would have a big advantage if he played tonight... so I hope he won't. :P

Anyway it's going to be a tough game. With Perk and Sheed we can contain Bosh and Bargnani, although Perk struggles against centers with a shooting touch. And we can abuse them in the post.

My only positive thoughts for tonight are that we can win this game, even if it will be hard, and that maybe (really maybe) Giddens will show how productive he can be and earn a spot in the rotation.

TP FL and go Celtics!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:40:53 AM
this is going to look like a preseason game
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 08:56:54 AM
Didn't we go up against the Raptors twice in preseason as well?
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Who on January 02, 2010, 11:43:06 AM
Hedo Turkoglu isn't playing

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Hedo Turkoglu (knee) and Jose Calderon (hip) won't be available against the Celtics, forcing coach Jay Triano to alter his rotations.

Toronto has been getting by with Jarrett Jack and Marcus Banks handling point guard duties, but Antoine Wright, who lost his minutes to the more athletic Sonny Weems when Toronto began its recent hot streak, will get an emergency start in place of Turkoglu.

Reported by Doug Smith in the Toronto Star.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 01:11:32 PM
Hedo Turkoglu isn't playing

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Hedo Turkoglu (knee) and Jose Calderon (hip) won't be available against the Celtics, forcing coach Jay Triano to alter his rotations.

Toronto has been getting by with Jarrett Jack and Marcus Banks handling point guard duties, but Antoine Wright, who lost his minutes to the more athletic Sonny Weems when Toronto began its recent hot streak, will get an emergency start in place of Turkoglu.

Reported by Doug Smith in the Toronto Star.

Finally, some little luck for the C's. I hope we win this one.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: QuinielaBox on January 02, 2010, 01:35:51 PM
Toronto does have a five game winning streak, but those are at home against lesser competition (NJ, NOH, at DET, DET, CHA).

Boston is playing their worst ball of the season coming off just a brutal stint West of my backyard.

No Rondo, No KG, and No Pierce takes a lot of our team off the floor.

I agree with FLCeltfan that Defense including rebounding will be very important for the C's tonight. Hopefully this will set up some Allen brothers fast breaks.

Another critical factor that has not been brought up is Turnovers. The Celtics must win the turnover battle to have a chance to win tonights game.

Do yourself a favor, and lower your expectations for the next two weeks until our front line horses can get back in the lineup. I won't be responding to whiney posts.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 01:46:25 PM
meh...need to stop bosh and roll the dice
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: scoop on January 02, 2010, 06:52:48 PM
Hedo is playing.

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Hedo is playing!

http://twitter.com/RaptorsDevlin/status/7313558881

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Turk warming up right now
http://twitter.com/RaptorsDevlin/status/7313639563

Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 06:53:36 PM
Bummer :(
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticsclay on January 02, 2010, 06:55:23 PM
How many points does Tony Allen end up with today> I say over twenty. Call me crazy, but someone has to score and he has stepped up in similar situations before.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 06:55:30 PM
Hedo is playing.

Quote
Hedo is playing!

http://twitter.com/RaptorsDevlin/status/7313558881

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Turk warming up right now
http://twitter.com/RaptorsDevlin/status/7313639563


Going to be a brutal game for the C's then.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Edgar on January 02, 2010, 07:01:22 PM
:)

Walker will own Hedo

 8)
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: scoop on January 02, 2010, 07:08:04 PM
Yeah, Hedo's playmaking has been the biggest contributing factor for the Raptors winning streak. However, if the Celtics defend Bosh and rebound well enough, they can win this game.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: clover on January 02, 2010, 07:08:40 PM
Uh oh.  Here's some bad news and details on Pierce's knee.  Let's hope they got it this time--and that they disinfect the locker room!

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2010/01/pierce_had_seco.html
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 07:21:22 PM
Aight, got my snacks, my drink and the game-thread. All I need is the game, and let's rock, guys.

LET'S GO CELTICS!!!1 *cheers*
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: RebusRankin on January 02, 2010, 07:23:08 PM
Let's go Celtics
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Edgar on January 02, 2010, 07:24:51 PM
Aight, got my snacks, my drink and the game-thread. All I need is the game, and let's rock, guys.

LET'S GO CELTICS!!!1 *cheers*

dont forget to check the chat too.. ;D
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 07:29:19 PM
Aight, got my snacks, my drink and the game-thread. All I need is the game, and let's rock, guys.

LET'S GO CELTICS!!!1 *cheers*

dont forget to check the chat too.. ;D

Oh dang, I'm more of a game-thread kind of person... But I guess I can make an exception :p here we go!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 07:30:12 PM
(http://titicadegalinha.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/ralph_macchio_jovem.jpg)
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 07:32:41 PM
[dang], with Turkoglu it will be really hard for us to win... but we can do it.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 07:36:36 PM
game could as ugly as the current state of the celtics....this is def. a trying time for the Cs
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 07:36:43 PM
[dang], with Turkoglu it will be really hard for us to win... but we can do it.

TP, for the positive thinking.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: ToppersBsktball10 on January 02, 2010, 07:36:58 PM
We got this.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 07:38:29 PM
so pierce's knee is still not getting better? ugh...we need these guys back ASAP
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 07:38:34 PM
[dang], with Turkoglu it will be really hard for us to win... but we can do it.

TP, for the positive thinking.
We got this.

You too!!! TP!!!!!!!!! :o
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: clover on January 02, 2010, 07:39:04 PM
Now they say KG's out another 10 days, approximately:

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2010/01/kg_could_be_out.html
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 07:39:43 PM
Darn, got the Raptors tv feed tonight.  Would've been nice to listen to Mike & Tommy on the current state of affairs.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 07:40:36 PM
Now they say KG's out another 10 days, approximately:

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2010/01/kg_could_be_out.html



10 more days? my god...we are going to be a .500 by the time we get everyone back. this is getting redonkulous
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: RJ87 on January 02, 2010, 07:41:41 PM
I'm scared.

HAHA.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 07:43:05 PM
sp pierce gets a brutal knee infection from a cut on his toe?
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 07:43:40 PM
Sheed in the post to start, good.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 07:43:49 PM
C'mon Tony.  That pass should be a gimme.    :P
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 07:44:09 PM
Giddens with a rebound. See Scals,see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 07:44:53 PM
hedo with the 3...and so it begins...
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 07:45:08 PM
Atta boy, Perk.  Go right at him.  
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 07:45:41 PM
I like when Ray drives.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 07:46:09 PM
poor ray...last man standing
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 07:47:40 PM
not even covering giddens at all
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 07:48:06 PM
We've started out pretty well. Especially on the defensive end.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 07:48:13 PM
Ray, trust Giddens please.


Perk
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 07:48:20 PM
Alright, they're showing some spark in the early on.  I like it!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 07:48:44 PM
Great defense to start the game, Giddens contributing!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 07:48:52 PM
Giddens with a nice catch and layup!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 07:49:02 PM
so far i like JR....playing hard
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 07:49:52 PM
perk cant handle bosh's quickness...foul trouble
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 07:50:03 PM
Too bad Sheed missed that dunk but gotta love the ENERGY!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 07:50:13 PM
Beautiful passing.  Horrible dunk.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 07:51:21 PM
Sheed has had a lot of trouble finishing several dunks. He just doesn't have much lift anymore.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 07:51:36 PM
I love the energy!!!!!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 07:51:44 PM
Yeah guys keep attacking the paint, good job so far!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 07:52:07 PM
tony is a one man rebounding machine...we got to finsh!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 07:53:15 PM
bosh killing sheed :-X
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 07:53:25 PM
Ray is leading the way. 8)
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 07:54:02 PM
horrible call on Ray....just bad officiating
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 07:54:11 PM
bosh killing sheed :-X

Wait until you see what he does to Scal. :-X :-X
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 07:54:37 PM
Well, they're doing better than I expected early on but they running all over the place.  We're severely undermanned tonight and I'm a bit nervous of all the energy getting expended.  Don't want to be gassed in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 07:54:44 PM
bosh killing sheed :-X
He's not quick enough to stay with him. He'll have to conceed more on the pick and roll to avoid more dunks like that.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Change on January 02, 2010, 07:54:53 PM
Ray+Tony carrying us so far. Good to have Baby back for this one.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 07:55:17 PM
bosh killing sheed :-X

Wait until you see what he does to Scal. :-X :-X
:o :o

Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 07:55:25 PM
Well, they're doing better than I expected early on but they running all over the place.  We're severely undermanned tonight and I'm a bit nervous of all the energy getting expended.  Don't want to be gassed in the 2nd half.
Yeah, but this is about as well as we could hope for to start. As long as we keep defending hard we can stay in this game.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 07:56:18 PM
no real answer for hedo or bosh...which could really be the difference
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 07:56:28 PM
Stupid turnover between TA and Baby... we must avoid that tonight it will kill us.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 07:57:19 PM
bosh is going to have 30 plus tonight
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 07:57:22 PM
Sheed for three and Baby running the fastbreak! :o
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 07:57:40 PM
Nice defense by Baby there.  
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 07:58:01 PM
ok baby...rather you give that up...but
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 07:58:18 PM
Baby looked like Christian Okoye.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 07:58:27 PM
Bosh probably will have 30, but unless the Raptors start finding some other options they'll lose this game.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 07:59:10 PM
Ray knows he has to do more tonight and we're seeing it from him early on.  Good to see his teammates realize it too.  Setting picks and the such.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 07:59:22 PM
giddens is WIDE open.....need to get him involved
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 07:59:37 PM
Ray knows he has to do more tonight and we're seeing it from him early on.  Good to see his teammates realize it too.  Setting picks and the such.

Yeah, attacking the paint, playing lockdown D, stealing the ball, getting free-throws... hopefully we keep it up.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 07:59:51 PM
That team in green and white actually looks rather good. Who are they?
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 07:59:58 PM
And they haven't defended the C's well at all, despite Tony and JR basically not contributing on that end except as rebounders and fast break players.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 08:01:09 PM
Giddens making good passes!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 08:01:15 PM
giddens is WIDE open.....need to get him involved
He made a nice pass to BBD there.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 08:01:24 PM
Well we're attacking the rim extremely productively and we're getting to the free throw line.  Very aggressive style and working so far.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:02:07 PM
YEAH FOR SHEED...YEAH FOR ME
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 08:02:20 PM
Could Tony be our future backup pg?
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 08:02:22 PM
Even Sheed is hitting 3's! 8)
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:03:09 PM
jack would be nice coming off the bench in boston
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 08:03:26 PM
Raptors playing some truly atrocious defense is helping us too.

They're playing a step slow and lots of reaching in.  
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 08:04:33 PM
Could Tony be our future backup pg?
No, he's not really playmaking all that much. Without an outside shot he's a liability at the PG with his limited ability to distribute.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: ToppersBsktball10 on January 02, 2010, 08:04:47 PM
Back atcha Chief.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: j804 on January 02, 2010, 08:04:58 PM
Lovin the Rugged get in ya skin style
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Change on January 02, 2010, 08:05:08 PM
Love the energy. Lets see if the bench can keep this lead.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Tai on January 02, 2010, 08:05:24 PM
Good job by JR to play within himself offensively and hold it down defensively. Maybe he'll prove me wrong as far as being useless.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 08:07:13 PM
Perk and Sheed got some helpful call tonight, surprising from the refs.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:07:22 PM
Love the energy. Lets see if the bench can keep this lead.

what bench?!?!?!?!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Tai on January 02, 2010, 08:08:12 PM
Also, a lotta fouls by the Raptors.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 08:08:28 PM
Love the energy. Lets see if the bench can keep this lead.

what bench?!?!?!?!
BBD, House, Walker, Shelden, and Scal.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 08:08:41 PM
That's 2 on Ray.  
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 08:08:49 PM
Come on Sheldon.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 08:08:59 PM
Shelden before Scal in the rotation, Doc may have got back to reason.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:09:30 PM
look at the lineup on the floor :o
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 08:10:25 PM
That possession by Tony was awful.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 08:10:48 PM
Toronto getting a little more aggressive here on the offensive end.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 08:10:59 PM
This team looks awesome. Doc's done a good job training them and maybe, just maybe, he doesn't play them much to get *this* out of them when he *does* play them.

Just a random thought.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: bello_man09 on January 02, 2010, 08:11:18 PM
look at the lineup on the floor :o

i know...
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:11:42 PM
gotta get something from these guys
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 08:11:50 PM
The bench is terrible so far offensively!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on January 02, 2010, 08:11:55 PM
Wrong substitution.... he should've put in Scal for either Baby or Williams.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 08:12:02 PM
Tony keeps dribbling himself into problems right now.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 08:12:15 PM
Without Ray our offense falls apart.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 08:12:47 PM
Scals wearing those orthopedic socks.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Change on January 02, 2010, 08:13:01 PM
What happened to the lead>
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 08:13:08 PM
The bench is terrible so far offensively!
... wait... what bench? The starting bench or the bench bench? :x
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 08:13:23 PM
Not a good end to that quarter.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 08:13:46 PM
Without Ray our offense falls apart.

Yeah... it hurts but Doc has to play Ray and Sheed for 40 minutes tonight if he wants to win this game.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:13:51 PM
well the so called second unit has nothing to offer scoring wise
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on January 02, 2010, 08:14:03 PM
What Doc needs to do is put Scal as a PF and all will be well. We're too slow with our bigs, and the lack of range hurts our spacing considerably.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 08:14:08 PM
What happened to the lead>
4 empty possessions once Ray/Sheed left will do that to you.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 08:14:27 PM
The bench is terrible so far offensively!
... wait... what bench? The starting bench or the bench bench? :x

The worse than garbage third unit. :'(
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 08:14:37 PM
Doc, Lester is a real pg. Give him a chance. Please!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: QuinielaBox on January 02, 2010, 08:15:28 PM
If Turkoglu is playing we are going to have a very difficult time winning this.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 08:16:37 PM
Doc, Lester is a real pg. Give him a chance. Please!!!!!!!!!

Doc must be logged onto Celtics Blog.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: bello_man09 on January 02, 2010, 08:17:05 PM
Doc play bill walker already....
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on January 02, 2010, 08:17:10 PM
Nice to put Lester in for a bit, but still we're wrong on top.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 08:17:15 PM
Hudson on the floor!

We're going to need Baby's offensive boards and Eddie will have to hit almost all his shots tonight...
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 08:17:43 PM
Oh boy, this unit is sure to give us fits.  
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:18:22 PM
no offense at all...this is getting ugly
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 08:19:13 PM
Let's go Baby!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: rondohondo on January 02, 2010, 08:19:29 PM
Bill Walker we need offense!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:19:45 PM
we get ANYTHING from this unit i will be happy...no bill walker????
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: QuinielaBox on January 02, 2010, 08:19:53 PM
Needed that hoop by GD!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: bello_man09 on January 02, 2010, 08:20:18 PM
lester keeps making those high passes to House..
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 08:20:44 PM
Shelden has been awful today.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:20:59 PM
bosh is going to foul the entire team out
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 08:21:44 PM
Shelden is regressing.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 08:22:01 PM
I'm getting annoyed by these Raptors broadcasters who are getting excited on every Raptors play like they are playing great against the defending champions in the Finals... amazing.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: scoop on January 02, 2010, 08:22:10 PM
Shelden Williams is no good.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:22:25 PM
alright...enough of this unit....
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 08:22:33 PM
We just need to tread water for another couple of minutes.  Then get Ray & Wallace back in the game.

Their absence is killing us but they need the breather.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: illantari on January 02, 2010, 08:23:02 PM
if JR is starting... where is billy?
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:24:29 PM
bosh feeling like a big man tonight
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: lon3lytoaster on January 02, 2010, 08:25:16 PM
if JR is starting... where is billy?

In Doc's basement, I guess. I'm playing Bill before Scalabrine in a situation like this every day. Wonder if Billy ate Doc's cheerios.

Giddens and Hudson need to be agressive, though. Giddens was practically a ghost on the court. Weird to me, good things happened when he actually touched the ball.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:25:22 PM
scal is horrible
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 08:25:43 PM
What happened to Scals jumper? It's not even close.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:25:55 PM
eddie what has happened to you??
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: ToppersBsktball10 on January 02, 2010, 08:26:41 PM
What happened to Scals jumper? It's not even close.

He left it in New Jersey...
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 08:27:11 PM
Lester!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 08:27:18 PM
Perk, if there is ever a time we need you to avoid picking up 3 before the half, this would be a great time to do it.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:27:37 PM
hey hey lester
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Bahku on January 02, 2010, 08:27:55 PM
if JR is starting... where is billy?

In Doc's basement, I guess. I'm playing Bill before Scalabrine in a situation like this every day. Wonder if Billy ate Doc's cheerios.

Giddens and Hudson need to be agressive, though. Giddens was practically a ghost on the court. Weird to me, good things happened when he actually touched the ball.

Agree, Toast.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 08:28:00 PM
Is that me or is Scalabrine doing a good job defensively on Turkoglu?

Nice 3 by Lester!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Bahku on January 02, 2010, 08:28:23 PM
Eddie just needs to use the glass, I guess. ;)
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 08:29:09 PM
Is that me or is Scalabrine doing a good job defensively on Turkoglu?

Nice 3 by Lester!

Turk is hurt.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Change on January 02, 2010, 08:29:32 PM
Who the hell is guarding Bosh and Bargnani? Fix it NOW!!!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:29:48 PM
Is that me or is Scalabrine doing a good job defensively on Turkoglu?

Nice 3 by Lester!

Turk is hurt.

good...sit him please
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: RebusRankin on January 02, 2010, 08:30:43 PM
Decent so far considering. Why no Billy? Scals does nothing.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 08:31:43 PM
Wow.

Nice move Perk!!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 08:31:53 PM
if JR is starting... where is billy?

In Doc's basement, I guess. I'm playing Bill before Scalabrine in a situation like this every day. Wonder if Billy ate Doc's cheerios.

Giddens and Hudson need to be agressive, though. Giddens was practically a ghost on the court. Weird to me, good things happened when he actually touched the ball.

Agree, Toast.
Apparently Billy hasn't got the right work ethic. That's what I read somewhere today.

And no, it doesn't get any more vague than that.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Bahku on January 02, 2010, 08:33:01 PM
No defense on Bosh ... that's gotta stop. Nice shot Eddie!!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 08:33:10 PM
Eddie's heating up...
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 08:33:27 PM
House on fire!!!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 08:33:44 PM
[dang], another technical for Sheed.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:34:09 PM
i like what i see from lester...and sheed with the T...
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 08:34:41 PM
Bargnani is abusing us.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Bahku on January 02, 2010, 08:34:47 PM
GRAB don't TAP, guys!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 08:35:47 PM
That shot is gonna make Top 10. 

Talk about luck of luck.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: RebusRankin on January 02, 2010, 08:36:27 PM
Sheed's tech was bogus. I think they do have it out for him sometimes.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Bahku on January 02, 2010, 08:36:50 PM
That shot is gonna make Top 10. 

Talk about luck of luck.

"Accidental Offense" ;)
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 08:37:23 PM
11th T on Sheed... [dang]. At least Turkoglu got one too. ::)

We must extend our lead to +10 or more at halftime so we can get on the Raptors throat in the 3rd ; thus the bench won't hurt us too much when it's unleashed again.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Bahku on January 02, 2010, 08:37:31 PM
Sheed's tech was bogus. I think they do have it out for him sometimes.

Absolutely ... they're just waiting for it.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Tai on January 02, 2010, 08:37:51 PM
Good minutes from Hudson and Giddens. Even if it was from necessity, they are getting on the floor and they're bringing energy and good D.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:38:35 PM
no answer for the raptor bigs that can step out and then drive
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 08:40:15 PM
I bet Giddens is wondering if he'll ever get to play again.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: WeMadeIt17 on January 02, 2010, 08:40:22 PM
How has J.R. Played? And what bougus shot? Ive been working just got home!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 08:40:45 PM
Tony still biting on the head fake.   ::)
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Change on January 02, 2010, 08:40:57 PM
Doc motivation genius. Don't know how we are winning.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 08:41:37 PM
J.R. has been okay. Mostly a non-factor on offense, but has guarded his man pretty well.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 08:42:04 PM
Double digit lead?  Are you kidding me?
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Tai on January 02, 2010, 08:42:25 PM
Big Man Dunk by Big Baby. : )
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 08:42:41 PM
Tear the rim down big guy.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Bahku on January 02, 2010, 08:43:05 PM
I love the energy on the floor right now! Awesome!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 08:43:37 PM
Excellent run to end the quarter. Now hit a two or a three at the buzzer and they will be shocked at halftime.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:43:50 PM
this is boston's best unit tonight
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 08:44:11 PM
If you told me beforehand that we'd be pushing 60 points in the half and carry a double digit lead at the half with the squad out there tonight, I would've told you to lay off the hallucinogens.  
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 08:44:18 PM
Good timeout by Doc, make sure we have a clear play for this final possession.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:44:38 PM
why no billy???
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 08:44:47 PM
We look DASHING.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 08:45:11 PM
If you told me beforehand that we'd be pushing 60 points in the half and carry a double digit lead at the half with the squad out there tonight, I would've told you to lay off the hallucinogens.  
I figured we'd be able to score on them, I didn't think we'd do such a good job defensively.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 08:45:15 PM
Well, so long for the buzzer. But +10 at halftime with our depleted team, I will take any night. Now we have to come strong in the 3rd and extend it to 20 or more!

Great energy by our boys in green so far, lovin' it. :)
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: RJ87 on January 02, 2010, 08:45:30 PM
If you told me beforehand that we'd be pushing 60 points in the half and carry a double digit lead at the half with the squad out there tonight, I would've told you to lay off the hallucinogens.  

HAHAH

Word.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:45:52 PM
cant fault really anything so far...up 10 with absolutely no real depth
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 08:46:51 PM
why no billy???
Billy has a work ethic issue.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Bahku on January 02, 2010, 08:47:31 PM
why no billy???

Yeah ... my major complaint to this point ... Scal should be the last option, not Billy.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:47:49 PM
why no billy???
Billy has a work ethic issue.

hogwash...all hands on deck
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on January 02, 2010, 08:48:28 PM
I really hope Doc doesn't put Williams, Baby, and Scal together again. If Scal comes in, he should play PF.

why no billy???

Yeah ... my major complaint to this point ... Scal should be the last option, not Billy.

Doc is playing Scal out of position. That's the biggest problem here. If anything, put in Billy and the 3 and Scal at the 4.

Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:51:13 PM
yeah...doc can't give the game away with scal, sheldon together...just not enough shooting or scoring...best line up is eddie, ray, tony, sheed and baby/perk
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: RJ87 on January 02, 2010, 08:52:46 PM
yeah...doc can't give the game away with scal, sheldon together...just not enough shooting or scoring...best line up is eddie, ray, tony, sheed and baby/perk

someone get Doc on the phone asap
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: RebusRankin on January 02, 2010, 08:53:45 PM
why no billy???

Yeah ... my major complaint to this point ... Scal should be the last option, not Billy.

Somebody tell Doc.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Surferdad on January 02, 2010, 08:53:54 PM
yeah...doc can't give the game away with scal, sheldon together...just not enough shooting or scoring...best line up is eddie, ray, tony, sheed and baby/perk
Not to worry, Shelden already has 3 fouls, plus he gives away way too much height to either Bosh or Bargnani, though you can say the same for Scal and Baby.  Still Baby should be the best defender among those guy plus he has a pulse on the offensive end.  Hopefully Doc keeps gonig to him with Sheed and Perk as the froncourt rotation.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 08:54:05 PM
I don't have a problem playing Scal at the 3 against Turk.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on January 02, 2010, 08:54:22 PM
yeah...doc can't give the game away with scal, sheldon together...just not enough shooting or scoring...best line up is eddie, ray, tony, sheed and baby/perk

Err. Scal in there wasn't the problem. The problem was that we didn't have the quickness to defend their big guys. They were eating us up in the pick and rolls and Bargniani having space to penetrate.

The unit was awful before Scal even got on the floor.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 08:54:28 PM
It's true that playing Billy can't hurt us tonight, I wonder why Doc doesn't play him.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 08:55:28 PM
not enough scoring esp if eddie isnt hitting shots to play that lineup again
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: scoop on January 02, 2010, 08:55:46 PM
Scalabrine played very good defence on Hedo.

I have no idea why so many people want to see Walker play. Why haven't you followed him in the D-League, he was getting tons of minutes there?
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on January 02, 2010, 08:58:02 PM
It's true that playing Billy can't hurt us tonight, I wonder why Doc doesn't play him.

But come on people... Doc has already played 10 players in the game... so let's stop the Billy nonsense.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 08:58:35 PM
Scalabrine player very good defence on Hedo.

I have no idea why so many people want to see Walker play. Why haven't you followed him in the D-League, he was getting tons of minutes there?
Plus the games are online right? Or was that just last year.

Anyways Shelden was the one who really killed us, well that and overall lack of offensive direction without Ray/Perk/Sheed. Hopefully we can get by with just Sheed/BBD/Perk for most of the minutes in the second half.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Change on January 02, 2010, 08:59:37 PM
It's true that playing Billy can't hurt us tonight, I wonder why Doc doesn't play him.

But come on people... Doc has already played 10 players in the game... so let's stop the Billy nonsense.

JR hasn't played since the 1st Q. Billy is the last guy off the bench.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Bahku on January 02, 2010, 09:00:01 PM
Scalabrine player very good defence on Hedo.

I have no idea why so many people want to see Walker play. Why haven't you followed him in the D-League, he was getting tons of minutes there?

I have followed him in the D-League and I've been to Red Claw games to see him, that's another reason why I know that he's a MUCH better player than Scal will ever be, and why I want to see him get minutes with the Celts. Scal does very little to deserve being played and is a detriment on offense.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on January 02, 2010, 09:01:33 PM
It's true that playing Billy can't hurt us tonight, I wonder why Doc doesn't play him.

But come on people... Doc has already played 10 players in the game... so let's stop the Billy nonsense.

JR hasn't played since the 1st Q. Billy is the last guy off the bench.

What does that have to do with anything? JR didn't come back in simply because House was in there, which was obviously Doc's plan to have House help spacing the 2nd unit + finish up the half/game.

JR is back in the 3rd.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: liam on January 02, 2010, 09:01:46 PM
I like Lester but he needs to get used to the size and speed of NBA players.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 09:03:43 PM
Don't let them shoot freebies every trip! Or at least get yours on the other end.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Bahku on January 02, 2010, 09:04:12 PM
It's true that playing Billy can't hurt us tonight, I wonder why Doc doesn't play him.

But come on people... Doc has already played 10 players in the game... so let's stop the Billy nonsense.

If a player is going to be more effective than one already playing, then the bench can NEVER be too deep. I just don't subscribe to that philosophy of "Already played ten so can't play another" ... what's the bench for? In a situation like this, where you've got nothing to lose, give the guy a chance ... he can't be any WORSE than Scal.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 09:05:11 PM
Nice fastbreak!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 09:05:44 PM
Tony runs the floor well.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Bahku on January 02, 2010, 09:06:29 PM
Tony is amazing physically ... so talented. Wish he'd get beyond the head stuff.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on January 02, 2010, 09:06:41 PM
It's true that playing Billy can't hurt us tonight, I wonder why Doc doesn't play him.

But come on people... Doc has already played 10 players in the game... so let's stop the Billy nonsense.

If a player is going to be more effective than one already playing, then the bench can NEVER be too deep. I just don't subscribe to that philosophy of "Already played ten so can't play another" ... what's the bench for? In a situation like this, where you've got nothing to lose, give the guy a chance ... he can't be any WORSE than Scal.

That's not the point. The point is that if anything they could've simply inserted JR, Tony, or Ray back in if what was on the floor wasn't working. Going to an 11th player wasn't needed.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 09:07:57 PM
Ray's drives and lay-up are soooo smooth! A beauty to watch.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 09:08:36 PM
ugh...barganai is a smooth criminal
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Bahku on January 02, 2010, 09:09:28 PM
Tony Turnover strikes again.  ::)
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 09:09:41 PM
Ugh...

Tony.  Ugly pass.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 09:09:50 PM
J.R. got lucky on that miss by Hedo.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 09:09:54 PM
come on tony
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 09:10:25 PM
Exchanging turnovers so far...
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 09:10:56 PM
giddens meet bench please
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 09:11:25 PM
Nice strip by Perk on Bosh.

"Little skills"?  C'mon...   ::)
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Change on January 02, 2010, 09:11:29 PM
Beautiful D-fense. Its Fun to watch.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 09:12:48 PM
Hopefully we can build a bit on the lead before we have to go to our "second" unit in the late 3rd/4th.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Change on January 02, 2010, 09:12:55 PM
Nice strip by Perk on Bosh.

"Little skills"?  C'mon...   ::)

Tell me about. Defensive player of the year.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Bahku on January 02, 2010, 09:13:26 PM
It's true that playing Billy can't hurt us tonight, I wonder why Doc doesn't play him.

But come on people... Doc has already played 10 players in the game... so let's stop the Billy nonsense.

If a player is going to be more effective than one already playing, then the bench can NEVER be too deep. I just don't subscribe to that philosophy of "Already played ten so can't play another" ... what's the bench for? In a situation like this, where you've got nothing to lose, give the guy a chance ... he can't be any WORSE than Scal.

That's not the point. The point is that if anything they could've simply inserted JR, Tony, or Ray back in if what was on the floor wasn't working. Going to an 11th player wasn't needed.

I disagree, because Walker is a much better match-up than Scal - he's faster, longer and more athletic - so play Walker first, if he's inaffective, then try Scal as a last resort, not the other way around.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: jadams5214 on January 02, 2010, 09:16:14 PM
C's defense is keeping this lead it's nice to see this team playing hard despite their severe limitations especially on the offensive end.

Ray Allen is 3 for his last 17 from three point land yikes.  The renowned sharpshooter is shooting a career low from deep.  Not a good sign at all...
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 09:16:22 PM
Perk is really showing it on both ends tonight.  And he's managing to stay on the floor too.  
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 09:17:11 PM
It's true that playing Billy can't hurt us tonight, I wonder why Doc doesn't play him.

But come on people... Doc has already played 10 players in the game... so let's stop the Billy nonsense.

If a player is going to be more effective than one already playing, then the bench can NEVER be too deep. I just don't subscribe to that philosophy of "Already played ten so can't play another" ... what's the bench for? In a situation like this, where you've got nothing to lose, give the guy a chance ... he can't be any WORSE than Scal.

That's not the point. The point is that if anything they could've simply inserted JR, Tony, or Ray back in if what was on the floor wasn't working. Going to an 11th player wasn't needed.

I disagree, because Walker is a much better match-up than Scal - he's faster, longer and more athletic - so play Walker first, if he's inaffective, then try Scal as a last resort, not the other way around.
Walker is not a better match up to play defense on Hedo.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: jadams5214 on January 02, 2010, 09:18:38 PM
JR Giddens is a pathetic shooter he doesn't even want to take wide open 10 foot jumpers. 
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: scoop on January 02, 2010, 09:18:53 PM
It's a shame Giddens is so nervous/tentative/horrible shooting the ball (and obviously a tragedy when he puts it on the floor). If he was able to hit the open shot, he'd belong in the NBA, very good defender.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 09:19:13 PM
Gidden is too shy to shoot and he ends up with bad shots when he has great looks at first. Too bad, but I understand him being nervous.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 09:19:15 PM
JR playing scared. :(
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: j804 on January 02, 2010, 09:19:43 PM
Get Giddens outta there no more, hes scared to shoot the ball.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 09:19:56 PM
JR playing scared. :(
I don't think he's comfortable catching and shooting period. He seems to want to bounce the ball a few times before taking any shot.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 09:20:21 PM
giddens meet bench.....he is afraid to even attempt wide open shots
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 09:20:49 PM
It's true that playing Billy can't hurt us tonight, I wonder why Doc doesn't play him.

But come on people... Doc has already played 10 players in the game... so let's stop the Billy nonsense.

If a player is going to be more effective than one already playing, then the bench can NEVER be too deep. I just don't subscribe to that philosophy of "Already played ten so can't play another" ... what's the bench for? In a situation like this, where you've got nothing to lose, give the guy a chance ... he can't be any WORSE than Scal.

That's not the point. The point is that if anything they could've simply inserted JR, Tony, or Ray back in if what was on the floor wasn't working. Going to an 11th player wasn't needed.

I disagree, because Walker is a much better match-up than Scal - he's faster, longer and more athletic - so play Walker first, if he's inaffective, then try Scal as a last resort, not the other way around.
Walker is not a better match up to play defense on Hedo.

I agree.

If there is a matchup that is tailor-made to throw Scal out there for defensive purposes, this may be against this Toronto team.  Playing against big men who float on the perimeter.  

This is a good team matchup to throw Scal out there.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 09:21:02 PM
This has been a masterful game by Ray Allen, he's running the offense in addition to become the complete focal point of our offensive sets. All while still running around off screen after screen.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 09:22:33 PM
Now we just need to hold onto the lead while Ray sits.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 09:23:06 PM
This is the time in the game to get nervous about.  Through the first few minutes of the 4th.

Tread water.  
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 09:23:22 PM
Scal is awful... but Baby is great on BOTH ends. Awesome job.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: jadams5214 on January 02, 2010, 09:23:52 PM
This has been a masterful game by Ray Allen, he's running the offense in addition to become the complete focal point of our offensive sets. All while still running around off screen after screen.

He is playing a solid game especially ball handling wise.  He is however 3 for his last 17 from three point range...
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Change on January 02, 2010, 09:24:03 PM
Toronto Raptors can't beat our 2nd unit Pathetic.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 09:24:09 PM
Scals playing hot potato again. >:(
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 09:24:27 PM
BBD got bailed out there, he had House wide open at the 3 point line.

Still can't argue with two FTs from an offensive possession.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Bahku on January 02, 2010, 09:24:52 PM
It's true that playing Billy can't hurt us tonight, I wonder why Doc doesn't play him.

But come on people... Doc has already played 10 players in the game... so let's stop the Billy nonsense.

If a player is going to be more effective than one already playing, then the bench can NEVER be too deep. I just don't subscribe to that philosophy of "Already played ten so can't play another" ... what's the bench for? In a situation like this, where you've got nothing to lose, give the guy a chance ... he can't be any WORSE than Scal.

That's not the point. The point is that if anything they could've simply inserted JR, Tony, or Ray back in if what was on the floor wasn't working. Going to an 11th player wasn't needed.

I disagree, because Walker is a much better match-up than Scal - he's faster, longer and more athletic - so play Walker first, if he's inaffective, then try Scal as a last resort, not the other way around.
Walker is not a better match up to play defense on Hedo.

Yes, he IS ... Scal is so unathletic and slow that I have trouble believing Doc would play him at ALL. Please, explain to me all these skills and talents that Scal has, because I have NEVER seen them, and I've been watching very closely. He is a detriment to this team at BOTH ends of the floor.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: j804 on January 02, 2010, 09:25:19 PM
For once refs are on our side, aside from sheeds t
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 09:25:57 PM
Lester time!!!!!! :)
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: jadams5214 on January 02, 2010, 09:26:01 PM
Great off the ball foul by Scal when he wasn't even involved in the play.  
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 09:26:32 PM
This has been a masterful game by Ray Allen, he's running the offense in addition to become the complete focal point of our offensive sets. All while still running around off screen after screen.

He is playing a solid game especially ball handling wise.  He is however 3 for his last 17 from three point range...
And what does that have to do with today's game? He's scored 16 points on 8 shots, 5-8 from the field. (0-2 from 3)
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: jadams5214 on January 02, 2010, 09:26:51 PM
And yet another foul for Scal way to contribute
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 09:27:03 PM
Get Scal out of the game, he can make us lose this one, seriously.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: rondohondo on January 02, 2010, 09:27:10 PM
Scal SUCKSSSSSSSSSS , Put in Billy
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: scoop on January 02, 2010, 09:27:39 PM
And yet another foul for Scal way to contribute

You think he should have conceded the open dunk instead?
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 09:27:58 PM
Scals, the refs aren't going to give that to you anymore. They also know you stink!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 09:28:19 PM
And yet another foul for Scal way to contribute

You think he should have conceded the open dunk instead?
Apparently...
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 09:29:03 PM
this looks like a preseason game out there
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 09:29:17 PM
Scals, the refs aren't going to give that to you anymore. They also know you stink!!!!!!!!
Meh decent try to take a charge and stop the break. Better than just straight wrapping him up.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 09:29:29 PM
Big Baby is really excellent this season, and it is almost unnoticed!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: rondohondo on January 02, 2010, 09:29:32 PM
HAHAHAHA Scal fumbled his way into an assist .
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Change on January 02, 2010, 09:29:38 PM
This is why Baby is huge off the bench.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 09:29:49 PM
12 minutes to go.  Gotta hold strong.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: RebusRankin on January 02, 2010, 09:30:04 PM
Nice one by BBD. Looking good tonight.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: jadams5214 on January 02, 2010, 09:30:10 PM
And yet another foul for Scal way to contribute

You think he should have conceded the open dunk instead?
Apparently...


Flopping doesn't work in the NBA often especially for scrubs.  He could have actually tried to keep the man in front of him and go for the block but Scal isn't athletic enough for that.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: j804 on January 02, 2010, 09:30:23 PM
Get Scal out of the game, he can make us lose this one, seriously.
Scally with the ASSIST!!!! Nice lol
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 09:31:15 PM
I don't think BBD's strong play has been unnoticed at all. He's just only played in four games total, including tonight.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 09:31:40 PM
And yet another foul for Scal way to contribute

You think he should have conceded the open dunk instead?
Apparently...


Flopping doesn't work in the NBA often especially for scrubs.  He could have actually tried to keep the man in front of him and go for the block but Scal isn't athletic enough for that.

Are you talking about the foul on Scal when he attempted to draw the charge?
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: jadams5214 on January 02, 2010, 09:31:49 PM
HAHAHAHA Scal fumbled his way into an assist .

Good catch that's exactly what happened there.  Hey luck counts though.  Who knows maybe Scal will make a few shots tonight also.  He is shooting less than 10% for his last several games.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: gar on January 02, 2010, 09:33:00 PM
All in All not bad. JR and Lester OK. Have to wonder if Bill Walker would not be better than JR. Are they trying to get some trade interest going.

JR passes up another shot :-\
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 09:33:15 PM
magic down 11
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 09:33:19 PM
And yet another foul for Scal way to contribute

You think he should have conceded the open dunk instead?
Apparently...


Flopping doesn't work in the NBA often especially for scrubs.  He could have actually tried to keep the man in front of him and go for the block but Scal isn't athletic enough for that.
Wait so he should have tried to make a play beyond his athletic ability, which would have resulted in an easy dunk/layup?

You have a warped perception of how a player should defend the fastbreak. If you can avoid fouling and challenge the shot that's all well and good. But when you're beat you have to make the other team earn it at the charity stripe.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: liam on January 02, 2010, 09:34:06 PM
Scal gets on the floor because he always gives full effort and does what he is told to do.  You can have all the talent in the world but you have to play with in the team concept.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 09:34:10 PM
cant go too much longer with this group
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 09:34:17 PM
I don't think BBD's strong play has been unnoticed at all. He's just only played in four games total, including tonight.

Yeah, I went too far with "unnoticed" but he has been great in every game. Hustling on every play, getting offensive rebounds, finishing his plays - great offensive moves -. He is a little bit lost on D sometimes and struggles with his shot but he's been great and brings a lot of energy everytime.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 09:35:12 PM
And yet another foul for Scal way to contribute

You think he should have conceded the open dunk instead?
Apparently...


Flopping doesn't work in the NBA often especially for scrubs.  He could have actually tried to keep the man in front of him and go for the block but Scal isn't athletic enough for that.
Wait so he should have tried to make a play beyond his athletic ability, which would have resulted in an easy dunk/layup?

You have a warped perception of how a player should defend the fastbreak. If you can avoid fouling and challenge the shot that's all well and good. But when you're beat you have to make the other team earn it at the charity stripe.

Not too mention he was about a milli-second behind successfully drawing a charge.

I have absolutely no quibbles at all stepping in the path of a guy on a breakaway and attempting to drawing a charge.  
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 09:36:37 PM
Hudson with a good penetration!

The Banks' three hurt and so did Scal on the next possession... the guy is useless, we play 4 on 5 everytime he is on the court.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 09:36:42 PM
I don't think BBD's strong play has been unnoticed at all. He's just only played in four games total, including tonight.

Yeah, I went too far with "unnoticed" but he has been great in every game. Hustling on every play, getting offensive rebounds, finishing his plays - great offensive moves -. He is a little bit lost on D sometimes and struggles with his shot but he's been great and brings a lot of energy everytime.
He didn't do much in the Orlando game, but other than that he's been great.

C's just need to hold on until Ray/Sheed get back in.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 09:36:52 PM
Close to getting the starters back in.  This second unit has held its own to start off the 4th.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Surferdad on January 02, 2010, 09:36:53 PM
Scal coming off a pick, wide open at the free throw line?  TAKE THAT SHOT, [dang it]. He refuses to shoot.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: jadams5214 on January 02, 2010, 09:36:57 PM
And yet another foul for Scal way to contribute

Maybe you weren't watching the play but there were 3 Celtics back on that fast break so there was no need to make a desperation attempt at drawing a charge.  But you are right Scal doesn't have the athletic ability to defend which is why he flops/reaches in so often.



You think he should have conceded the open dunk instead?
Apparently...


Flopping doesn't work in the NBA often especially for scrubs.  He could have actually tried to keep the man in front of him and go for the block but Scal isn't athletic enough for that.
Wait so he should have tried to make a play beyond his athletic ability, which would have resulted in an easy dunk/layup?

You have a warped perception of how a player should defend the fastbreak. If you can avoid fouling and challenge the shot that's all well and good. But when you're beat you have to make the other team earn it at the charity stripe.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 09:37:30 PM
Shelden got fouled repeatedly, he needs to recognize when he has a man up in there and go up for a shot!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Casperian on January 02, 2010, 09:37:59 PM
I don't think BBD's strong play has been unnoticed at all. He's just only played in four games total, including tonight.

Yeah, I went too far with "unnoticed" but he has been great in every game. Hustling on every play, getting offensive rebounds, finishing his plays - great offensive moves -. He is a little bit lost on D sometimes and struggles with his shot but he's been great and brings a lot of energy everytime.

Baby is what he is...and I love it!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Bahku on January 02, 2010, 09:39:00 PM
And yet another foul for Scal way to contribute

Yeah, exactly. (TP)
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 09:39:06 PM
And yet another foul for Scal way to contribute



You think he should have conceded the open dunk instead?
Apparently...


Flopping doesn't work in the NBA often especially for scrubs.  He could have actually tried to keep the man in front of him and go for the block but Scal isn't athletic enough for that.
Wait so he should have tried to make a play beyond his athletic ability, which would have resulted in an easy dunk/layup?

You have a warped perception of how a player should defend the fastbreak. If you can avoid fouling and challenge the shot that's all well and good. But when you're beat you have to make the other team earn it at the charity stripe.
Maybe you weren't watching the play but there were 3 Celtics back on that fast break so there was no need to make a desperation attempt at drawing a charge.  But you are right Scal doesn't have the athletic ability to defend which is why he flops/reaches in so often.
The other Celtics weren't in a position to stop the man with the ball from going straight to the basket.

As for whether or not I was watching the game, that's a strange attempt to counter my argument, accusing me of not watching a game when I've been posting in this thread the entire game....
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 09:39:14 PM
Good hustle play TA, you broke their possible momentum changer play!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 09:40:33 PM
Good hustle play TA, you broke their possible momentum changer play!
Every Celtic has been hustling tonight.

Well except maybe Sheed, its hard to tell with him lol.  ::)
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: KCattheStripe on January 02, 2010, 09:40:51 PM
How has Giddens played?
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 09:40:59 PM
Another huge hustle play by TA, TP!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Change on January 02, 2010, 09:41:05 PM
I;m loving Tony Allen right now.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: ManUp on January 02, 2010, 09:41:10 PM
Nice tough play by Tony.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: jadams5214 on January 02, 2010, 09:41:15 PM
And yet another foul for Scal way to contribute



You think he should have conceded the open dunk instead?
Apparently...


Flopping doesn't work in the NBA often especially for scrubs.  He could have actually tried to keep the man in front of him and go for the block but Scal isn't athletic enough for that.
Wait so he should have tried to make a play beyond his athletic ability, which would have resulted in an easy dunk/layup?

You have a warped perception of how a player should defend the fastbreak. If you can avoid fouling and challenge the shot that's all well and good. But when you're beat you have to make the other team earn it at the charity stripe.
Maybe you weren't watching the play but there were 3 Celtics back on that fast break so there was no need to make a desperation attempt at drawing a charge.  But you are right Scal doesn't have the athletic ability to defend which is why he flops/reaches in so often.
The other Celtics weren't in a position to stop the man with the ball from going straight to the basket.

As for whether or not I was watching the game, that's a strange attempt to counter my argument, accusing me of not watching a game when I've been posting in this thread the entire game....

Relax there genius I wasn't accusing you of anything I merely said MAYBE you weren't watching the play that's all.  Maybe means possibly as in maybe you went to get a drink or walk the dog.  
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 09:41:29 PM
Doc, Lester was playing well. Play the hot man.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: ManUp on January 02, 2010, 09:42:16 PM
Took them long enough to call that.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: ManUp on January 02, 2010, 09:42:40 PM
TONY  :o
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 09:42:59 PM
Nice ball movement and great finish by Tony in that sequence.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 09:43:25 PM
TA is saving our butts!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 09:44:28 PM
And yet another foul for Scal way to contribute



You think he should have conceded the open dunk instead?
Apparently...


Flopping doesn't work in the NBA often especially for scrubs.  He could have actually tried to keep the man in front of him and go for the block but Scal isn't athletic enough for that.
Wait so he should have tried to make a play beyond his athletic ability, which would have resulted in an easy dunk/layup?

You have a warped perception of how a player should defend the fastbreak. If you can avoid fouling and challenge the shot that's all well and good. But when you're beat you have to make the other team earn it at the charity stripe.
Maybe you weren't watching the play but there were 3 Celtics back on that fast break so there was no need to make a desperation attempt at drawing a charge.  But you are right Scal doesn't have the athletic ability to defend which is why he flops/reaches in so often.
The other Celtics weren't in a position to stop the man with the ball from going straight to the basket.

As for whether or not I was watching the game, that's a strange attempt to counter my argument, accusing me of not watching a game when I've been posting in this thread the entire game....

Relax there genius I wasn't accusing you of anything I merely said MAYBE you weren't watching the play that's all.  Maybe means possibly as in maybe you went to get a drink or walk the dog.  
Its poor form to lob an accusation like that pure and simple. You were saying "you don't know what you're talking about so clearly you must not have seen the play".

I just disagree with your assessment of the play. Your dislike of Scal is coloring your perception.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 09:44:32 PM
Jump ball!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 09:45:08 PM
dont give this game away please
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: ManUp on January 02, 2010, 09:45:16 PM
Marcus Banks suck, lol.

That should've been a hoop or a foul,
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 09:45:33 PM
Toronto is getting back in the game, gotta have some stops on D and killer baskets on the offensive end.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 09:45:39 PM
We, rock.

This is our bench. Hah. Hilarious. We're missing rotation players, and still winning. It's awesome.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: jadams5214 on January 02, 2010, 09:45:53 PM
Ray with a great move but can't hit the wide open jumper to push the lead back to double digits.  His jump shot just isn't there right now.  If anything his driving to the bucket has improved this year but his jump shot (especially from 3) has deserted him.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 09:46:13 PM
Nice ball movement and great finish by Tony in that sequence.
We need to get some more stops though. Toronto is really running hard trying to steal this game from us.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 09:46:19 PM
Scal gets on the floor because he always gives full effort and does what he is told to do.  You can have all the talent in the world but you have to play with in the team concept.

Are you seriously defending this guy?
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 09:47:53 PM
Sheed really has it down in regards to banking it. 
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 09:48:40 PM
Travel?  C'mon.

Great hustle play, though.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 09:48:48 PM
Sheed with a great bucket and a great steal... Perk must learn to make passes to the wide open shooters in the corner. He never gives them the ball.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 09:49:07 PM
Sheed really has it down in regards to banking it. 
We really needed that bucket.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: ManUp on January 02, 2010, 09:49:24 PM
This is fun.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 09:50:15 PM
There's the Marcus Banks I rememeber.  Terrible shot when Toronto needed one.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: ManUp on January 02, 2010, 09:50:21 PM
This is the Sheed I'd like to get to know.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: scoop on January 02, 2010, 09:50:28 PM
Scal gets on the floor because he always gives full effort and does what he is told to do.  You can have all the talent in the world but you have to play with in the team concept.

+1
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 09:50:44 PM
they just might pull this out....talk about improbable
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: ManUp on January 02, 2010, 09:50:52 PM
Please say it's nothing :(
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 09:50:58 PM
Sheed is HUGE! Where are his detractors right now? :)
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 09:51:06 PM
Ray has been amazing this game, great shot.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: RJ87 on January 02, 2010, 09:51:36 PM
This is the Sheed I'd like to get to know.

haha.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: jadams5214 on January 02, 2010, 09:51:43 PM
Rasheed!  --- If only he played this way every night and remembered that he is a near dominant post player.  If he would just stop shooting the 3 so much this team's offensive production would improve immensely.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 09:51:46 PM
SHEED...can you PLEASE continue to that>?
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 09:51:56 PM
Please say it's nothing :(
What did Hedo do the feed I had wasn't showing it.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 09:52:07 PM
Great camera angle on the Tony injury? :P
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Change on January 02, 2010, 09:52:14 PM
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: j804 on January 02, 2010, 09:52:20 PM
Add Tony back to the injury list?
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: liam on January 02, 2010, 09:52:30 PM
banks hasn't learned anything in all the years he's been in the league.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: jadams5214 on January 02, 2010, 09:54:26 PM
Wow and Ray with a 3 pointer first one tonight!  The old Ray would have followed it up with a back breaker on the next trip but he just doesn't have it right now.  Very rarely hits 2 in a row anymore. 

Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: ManUp on January 02, 2010, 09:54:35 PM
TONY TONY TONY!!!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 09:54:38 PM
Ray's favorite clutch 3 pointer spot!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 09:54:46 PM
HUGE layup by Tony.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on January 02, 2010, 09:54:59 PM
WOW..Just Wow...I knew the Celtics would compete, but this is one of the many reasons why I a DieHard fan...they are winning without 3 of their starters! Wow I am proud right now...happy as a pig in slop I tell ya!!

I had to step out and I just got back in ;D

So who did the damage for us?
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 09:55:35 PM
Rasheed in the post please.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 09:55:47 PM
PERK!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 09:55:56 PM
WOW..Just Wow...I knew the Celtics would compete, but this is one of the many reasons why I a DieHard fan...they are winning without 3 of their starters! Wow I am proud right now...happy as a pig in slop I tell ya!!

I had to step out and I just got back in ;D

So who did the damage for us?

Everyone did :D it's awesome I tell ya :D We look awesome :D
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 09:56:04 PM
and now the raptors start hitting every 3
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Tai on January 02, 2010, 09:56:11 PM
Our offense is just carving up the Raptors. Six players in double figures, it's too easy. :)

And nice layup by TA. And yes, we know you were fouled.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: scoop on January 02, 2010, 09:56:21 PM
This Raptors team possibly plays the worst defence I've ever seen in the NBA for the last 20 years or so.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 09:56:28 PM
Big buckets down the stretch for many different players. Ray, Sheed and Tony!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 09:56:57 PM
how is boston up 9 let alone even in this game? great effort and coaching tonight
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 09:57:12 PM
This Raptors team possibly play the worst defence I've ever seen in the NBA for the last 20 years or so.

Its pretty pathetic.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 09:57:12 PM
This Toronto coach is an idiot.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Tenacious D on January 02, 2010, 09:57:44 PM
Boys, looks like we can unwrap our 1st 2010 victory cigar--an on a most improbable night, with only 34 minutes from Ray!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: jadams5214 on January 02, 2010, 09:58:20 PM
Nice offensive sets down the stretch tonight.  The ball movement has been much better instead of just standing around going 1 on 1.  

Solid effort by an undermanned team tonight.   Very good showing to Pierce, KG and Rondo that will hopefully build confidence in the bench players.  This team has failed miserably the last few games in executing down the stretch but came through much better tonight...
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: ManUp on January 02, 2010, 09:58:36 PM
Bosh playing Tough... That's not like him.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 09:58:50 PM
Big buckets down the stretch for many different players. Ray, Sheed and Tony!

The new BIG THREE!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 09:59:33 PM
Very satisfying "W" tonight.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 09:59:42 PM
Raptors suddenly can't miss from three! Travel on Perk, what the hell?!

Worried about Turkoglu now.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 09:59:51 PM
no foul??
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: liam on January 02, 2010, 10:00:03 PM
did anyone see a travel?
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 10:00:28 PM
bosh plays tough when boston is down 5 guys....why didnt the raptors foul?
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 10:01:00 PM
Traveling. Twice. That ref has never watched NBA basketball.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: RJ87 on January 02, 2010, 10:01:44 PM
Nice Win ;D

toronto should be embarrassed though, lol
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: RebusRankin on January 02, 2010, 10:02:23 PM
Satisfying win indeed.

I agree that ref was terrible.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Donoghus on January 02, 2010, 10:02:30 PM
Toronto has San Antonio tomorrow night?

Good luck with that...
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Brickowski on January 02, 2010, 10:02:34 PM
Satisfying win.  I enjoyed every minute of it.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Edgar on January 02, 2010, 10:02:58 PM
PERKULESS!!! Rocks And Rolls


Great to see u guys on chat tonight
hope to see more of you next time...


Saludos

Edgar
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Prof. Clutch on January 02, 2010, 10:03:12 PM
Yay Celtics, Yay going to sleep at 4 am.  Yay to you all!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: liam on January 02, 2010, 10:03:19 PM
Traveling. Twice. That ref has never watched NBA basketball.

He's got to cover the spread!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: PPTheZodiac on January 02, 2010, 10:03:23 PM
Raptors can't beat our bench lol
good W for the C's
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 10:03:55 PM
Haha, hahahaha, hahahahahahaha :]]

We just beat the Raptors. With TA as the main PG :')

Ridiculous.

I love cheering for a bench like this.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 10:03:58 PM
raptors should have to give paycheck to charity with that effort....pathetic....Cs on the other hand played their butts off....good things from eddie and baby...sheed was huge and ray too
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Change on January 02, 2010, 10:04:03 PM
Raptors can't beat our bench lol
good W for the C's

 ;D
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Chief on January 02, 2010, 10:04:20 PM
TPs all around!!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :)
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 10:04:31 PM
Great, great win tonight.

End of our 3 game losing skid, great effort and hustle by every player, great plays down the stretch... and not a lot of minutes for Ray and Sheed, awesome!

TP's for all of you guys, so glad we got the win without 4 key players. Hopefully Pierce and Rondo will be back soon... KG will probably be out longer, and Marquis too, as expected.

PS : Sheed going to the Toronto bench at the end of the game to crack some jokes... love his personality. ;D
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on January 02, 2010, 10:04:59 PM
Ha! And my barber had the nerve to tell me that the Celtics were going to keep losing, lol....Great Win, C's! Celtics! Ooowaahhh!!! Ubuntu!! TP's for all!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: tomatolander on January 02, 2010, 10:05:16 PM
Great win by the Cs
and the Bulls is leading the Magic right now.  :)
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 10:05:28 PM
bulls up 11 with 8 to play over the magic
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Change on January 02, 2010, 10:05:38 PM
Traveling. Twice. That ref has never watched NBA basketball.

He's got to cover the spread!

No doubt. Cause Perk is a robot when it comes to his offense. The 2 travel calls don't make any sense.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 10:06:29 PM
6 guys in double digits, rebounds spread across the board, assists too, 11 turnovers is okay-ish.

I like.

Now, you can say what you want about our squad, but you gotta admit this game was pretty solid, especially for a bench game. We were never really out of control imo.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: gar on January 02, 2010, 10:06:35 PM
Great Win!

Good to see Tony and Sheed playing well!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: DinTN on January 02, 2010, 10:07:16 PM
bulls up 11 with 8 to play over the magic

Wow! I certainly wouldn't have predicted a win tonight with our missing players AND a loss by ORL :)
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 10:07:29 PM
FIRST WIN OF THE DECADE BABY
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 10:08:10 PM
bulls up 11 with 8 to play over the magic

Wow! I certainly wouldn't have predicted a win tonight with our missing players AND a loss by ORL :)

Please don't jinx it! :P
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: j804 on January 02, 2010, 10:08:41 PM
Awesome play, the extended bench needed this!

Now go Bulls, Beat Orlando!  ;D
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 10:09:00 PM
AND SO THE DECADE OF THE RISING CELTICS BEGINS
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 10:09:10 PM
bulls up 11 with 8 to play over the magic

Wow! I certainly wouldn't have predicted a win tonight with our missing players AND a loss by ORL :)

Check the Magic's box score. 1 person in double digits :')
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Edgar on January 02, 2010, 10:10:03 PM
to say tony allen was the best player is out of mind
even more if you count the stupid dunk where he almost got hurt
this game was perkules all day long


p.s. no caps please
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Change on January 02, 2010, 10:10:24 PM
You gotta admit Baby was the difference in this game. He kept Scal and Sheldon roles limited.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 10:11:26 PM
baby was big as was eddie making some key hoops...ray, sheed played strong
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Edgar on January 02, 2010, 10:12:15 PM
You gotta admit Baby was the difference in this game. He kept Scal and Sheldon roles limited.

the only good thing about BBD is exactly what you pointed
to keep scal and shelden out

now how about the shelden ,  bbd, scal, house , tony lineup

brutal!!!!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 10:12:38 PM
and vince carter just wrecked his ankle...ouch
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: DinTN on January 02, 2010, 10:12:51 PM
bulls up 11 with 8 to play over the magic

Wow! I certainly wouldn't have predicted a win tonight with our missing players AND a loss by ORL :)

Check the Magic's box score. 1 person in double digits :')

How are they holding Vince to 3/15 shooting?
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 10:15:20 PM
bulls up 11 with 8 to play over the magic

Wow! I certainly wouldn't have predicted a win tonight with our missing players AND a loss by ORL :)

Check the Magic's box score. 1 person in double digits :')

How are they holding Vince to 3/15 shooting?

That's all Vince :p
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: RAcker on January 02, 2010, 10:22:00 PM
and vince carter just wrecked his ankle...ouch
I just saw it live when it happened.  Have they updated?
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: mzepol on January 02, 2010, 10:26:17 PM
Gritty win.  :)

Please don't tell me the Magic will come back to win the game against the Bulls.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: j804 on January 02, 2010, 10:26:33 PM
Looks like Vince broke something
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: RebusRankin on January 02, 2010, 10:34:16 PM
Orlando just loss.

Sheed, Ray, TA, BBD and Perk all played well tonight.

Giddens was so tenitive.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 10:34:42 PM
Looks like Vince broke something
Gas maybe, but his ankle is probably just sprained. He landed on it quite "well", for a broken one.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: celticinorlando on January 02, 2010, 10:37:38 PM
it was fugly on vince's ankle...i mean he was in some serious pain
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: DinTN on January 02, 2010, 10:38:43 PM
it was fugly on vince's ankle...i mean he was in some serious pain
Is the game still going?
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 10:38:56 PM
it was fugly on vince's ankle...i mean he was in some serious pain
He always crumples like that on his ankles.

Something about how he plays, he's always messing up his ankles.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2010, 10:39:09 PM
it was fugly on vince's ankle...i mean he was in some serious pain
Is the game still going?

Its over, the Bulls beat the Magic.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Edgar on January 02, 2010, 10:41:02 PM
Everytime i see that Tony dunk my tummy ackes  :'(

Gerald Greens IQ nahh Tony allens IQ
hes dumb.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Drucci on January 02, 2010, 10:51:16 PM
My feelings about the Raptors announcers couldn't be more well resumed (posted by a Celtic fan) :

Quote
First off I had the Toronto feed and I must say: their announcers are unbearable. Imagine a guy sounding like he's taking a **t and screaming over at someone in the other room while he's struggling on the toilet.  Sorry for the graphic description but that's what it's like listening to .  Maybe if I was a Raptors fan I'd appreciate it or at least tolerate it.  But it's god-awful as far as I'm concerned.  And he's like that the entire game.  And he doesn't handle play-by-play like a normal person for TV, but was doing it like it was on the radio.  Sort of like when Bob Costas went to the NBA on NBC and started announcing games.  We can see what 's happening jack***.

;D Right on the money, these announcers were terrible!
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 10:53:10 PM
it was fugly on vince's ankle...i mean he was in some serious pain
He always crumples like that on his ankles.

Something about how he plays, he's always messing up his ankles.
He plays "whilst in upright position" yeh. I think it's not the "how", but more or less some previous injury. One ankle injury will cause your erm... what're they called... ligaments? To stretch out, and thus it'll remain an 'easy' injury.

By Jove, that was a grammatically horrible bit of text.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 10:54:22 PM
My feelings about the Raptors announcers couldn't be more well resumed (posted by a Celtic fan) :

Quote
First off I had the Toronto feed and I must say: their announcers are unbearable. Imagine a guy sounding like he's taking a **t and screaming over at someone in the other room while he's struggling on the toilet.  Sorry for the graphic description but that's what it's like listening to .  Maybe if I was a Raptors fan I'd appreciate it or at least tolerate it.  But it's god-awful as far as I'm concerned.  And he's like that the entire game.  And he doesn't handle play-by-play like a normal person for TV, but was doing it like it was on the radio.  Sort of like when Bob Costas went to the NBA on NBC and started announcing games.  We can see what 's happening jack***.

;D Right on the money, these announcers were terrible!

Aye. They also called every play like it was the game-winner. But I guess that's covered in the "radio"-style comment.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: RebusRankin on January 02, 2010, 10:58:44 PM
They are terrible. I get them all the time (viva Canada). See it's not all quality beer and free healthcare, we also get those announcers and Celine Dion.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Kiorrik on January 02, 2010, 10:59:44 PM
They are terrible. I get them all the time (viva Canada). See it's not all quality beer and free healthcare, we also get those announcers and Celine Dion.
Blame Canada! Blame Cana-this is probably the most unoriginal reply I could muster.

Time for bed.

Toodles.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Spilling Green Dye on January 03, 2010, 12:12:42 AM
I watched the game, and I checked out the boxscore.  Great win and great team performance.  Fortunately the Raptors are not a very good team.

Let's put to rest a few things that are floating around this blog on a daily basis:

-Sheldon Williams should be getting a ton of minutes everygame.  The reality is that he is only suited to play well against a slower and less mobile frontcourt.  He should never be matched up against the likes of Bargnani or Bosh (both around 7'0").  Never!

-Glen Davis is going to take over Rasheed Wallace's spot, and even play SF.  The reality is that Davis is a good replacement for Perkins.  On the other hand, Rasheed is a good versatile replacement for both Perkins and Garnett, and it's no surprise that he had a +17 for the game (far higher than anyone else on the team).  If Davis can't remotely stay in front of Bosh, then he can't play SF. 
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Bahku on January 03, 2010, 12:42:24 AM
I watched the game, and I checked out the boxscore.  Great win and great team performance.  Fortunately the Raptors are not a very good team.

Let's put to rest a few things that are floating around this blog on a daily basis:

-Sheldon Williams should be getting a ton of minutes everygame.  The reality is that he is only suited to play well against a slower and less mobile frontcourt.  He should never be matched up against the likes of Bargnani or Bosh (both around 7'0").  Never!

-Glen Davis is going to take over Rasheed Wallace's spot, and even play SF.  The reality is that Davis is a good replacement for Perkins.  On the other hand, Rasheed is a good versatile replacement for both Perkins and Garnett, and it's no surprise that he had a +17 for the game (far higher than anyone else on the team).  If Davis can't remotely stay in front of Bosh, then he can't play SF. 

I agree with the majority of what you're saying here, (TP), but most of the discussion I've seen has been about Big Baby taking Shelden's minutes, and vice-versa ... I don't think anyone seriously thinks that he can replace Sheed or play that position as effectively. (Gotta love Glen's energy, though ... nice to have him back).
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: nickagneta on January 03, 2010, 12:55:51 AM
I watched the game, and I checked out the boxscore.  Great win and great team performance.  Fortunately the Raptors are not a very good team.

Let's put to rest a few things that are floating around this blog on a daily basis:

-Sheldon Williams should be getting a ton of minutes everygame.  The reality is that he is only suited to play well against a slower and less mobile frontcourt.  He should never be matched up against the likes of Bargnani or Bosh (both around 7'0").  Never!

-Glen Davis is going to take over Rasheed Wallace's spot, and even play SF.  The reality is that Davis is a good replacement for Perkins.  On the other hand, Rasheed is a good versatile replacement for both Perkins and Garnett, and it's no surprise that he had a +17 for the game (far higher than anyone else on the team).  If Davis can't remotely stay in front of Bosh, then he can't play SF. 

I agree with the majority of what you're saying here, (TP), but most of the discussion I've seen has been about Big Baby taking Shelden's minutes, and vice-versa ... I don't think anyone seriously thinks that he can replace Sheed or play that position as effectively. (Gotta love Glen's energy, though ... nice to have him back).
Gotta agree here. Glen will take Sheldon's spot. remember at the beginning of the season when everyone asked how is Baby going to get any minutes because Sheed, KG and Perk would take all the minutes? Well, I think Danny constructed this front court with the distinct notion in mind that injuries would happen. Now maybe he was thinking Perk's shoulder and KG's knee and it never occurred to him that the young player getting hurt would be Baby and that Sheldon would see so much time.

But the gist of the idea has worked out. Keep KG at about 30-31 minutes, Perk at 28-30 minutes, Rasheed at 20-22 minutes and if all worked out there would be 16 MPG left over for Baby with Baby getting some extended minutes when KG went out rehabbing or resting his knee and when Perk or Rasheed got injured or needed rest. Now of course, Sheldon ended up in Davis' role once Glen broke his thumb but it's all pretty much played out as Danny had hoped.

I think with KG's injury maybe being longer than anticipated at first(hopefully the C's aren't jerking things around like last year when surgery right away may have give KG a chance at the playoffs and hopefully this isn't near anywhere as serious) Sheldom will probably keep his minutes, Rasheed will move up a slot and take KG's 30 MPG or so a night and we will be seeing Baby getting Wallace's usual minutes of 22-25 MPG. Once KG returns, everything will probably go back to the way things were originally planned to go but never had a chance to and Williams will be eating bench. Which of course will then spark the inevitable BBD vs Sheldon debates here at CB.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Surferdad on January 03, 2010, 07:26:45 AM
TP for you nick.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: JIMTONIK on January 03, 2010, 08:00:37 AM
Awesome win, I didn't expected to win witouth 3 starters.
Anyway Raps really sucks.
Title: Re: Raptors (16-17) at Celtics (23-8) 1/2
Post by: Overrated on January 03, 2010, 05:27:56 PM
After only going 1-for-5 from the free throw line the game prior in Phoenix, Perk knocks down all his free throws. Atta boy!