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Beyond the Association => Global Basketball => Topic started by: RockinRyA on October 20, 2009, 07:46:38 AM
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from yahoo:
"we've been dragging our feet when it comes to delivering you quality international basketball news recently, which is why it gives me great pleasure to inform you of the following:
Wynne Arboleda, a player in the esteemed Philippine Basketball Association, has been suspended without pay for the rest of the 2009-10 season after attacking a fan.
That's right, Arboleda, a guard for the Burger King Whoppers — why are you laughing, Wendy? — channeled his inner-Ron Artest during a game against Smart-Gilas on Friday night.
The nine-year PBA veteran assaulted a fan, Alain Katigbak, after the latter shouted profane words directed at him following his second flagrant foul.
Thankfully, fans, players and refs broke it up before Jermaine O'Neal(notes)-like haymakers could get involved.
Anyway, after the jump, video of what some people are calling "The Malevolent Meltdown in Manila." j.e. skeets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQhiBv92hdU&feature=player_embedded
this is sad news for the declining philippine basketball.
arboleda, being a professional player and the team captain at that shouldve known better. fans would be fans.
heres the link to the article:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Filipino-basketball-player-banned-for-season-aft?urn=nba,196813
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Burger King, KFC, American fast food is all over this place.
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Yeah, sad to see an incident like this, but it's no sadder than when it happens right here. And by the way, I've lived there for most of the last year, and Philippines Basketball is NOT "declining" in ANY way ... not remotely!
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it is declining in the sense that the phils was once an superpower in asian basketball. in the 90s they started placing 3rd, then 4th... then by the time 2k hits, they were always eliminated
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Top teams in this league.
1.Burger King
2.Arby's
3.Jack in the Box
4.Domino's
I really think Arby's is going to win it all, has to be that bronco berry sauce, can't lose if ya got that.
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Top teams in this league.
1.Burger King
2.Arby's
3.Jack in the Box
4.Domino's
I really think Arby's is going to win it all, has to be that bronco berry sauce, can't lose if ya got that.
Huh? What league are you talking about? The top teams in the PBA are Alaska Aces, (with Willie Miller they will win it all), Genebra Kings, Trapang Texters (Talk N Text), Realtors (Santa Lucia), and the Energy Boosters (Barako Bull) ... maybe San Migual Beermen and TJ Giants (Pure Foods Hot Dogs), but I don't think BK is as good as everyone thinks ... too weak on defensive assignments and not a deep enough bench, and I don't see the Tigers, Painters or Smart Gilas going too far this year, either ... just not the same level of talent.
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Top teams in this league.
1.Burger King
2.Arby's
3.Jack in the Box
4.Domino's
I really think Arby's is going to win it all, has to be that bronco berry sauce, can't lose if ya got that.
Huh? What league are you talking about? The top teams in the PBA are Alaska Aces, (with Willie Miller they will win it all), Genebra Kings, Trapang Texters (Talk N Text), Realtors (Santa Lucia), and the Energy Boosters (Barako Bull) ... maybe San Migual Beermen and TJ Giants (Pure Foods Hot Dogs), but I don't think BK is as good as everyone thinks ... too weak on defensive assignments and not a deep enough bench, and I don't see the Tigers, Painters or Smart Gilas going too far this year, either ... just not the same level of talent.
He was joking. They really have a team named the BK Whoppers, though?
God, i hate shameless marketing. Seeing a sweaty guy wearing your logo does not make me want to eat a BK burger.
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Top teams in this league.
1.Burger King
2.Arby's
3.Jack in the Box
4.Domino's
I really think Arby's is going to win it all, has to be that bronco berry sauce, can't lose if ya got that.
Huh? What league are you talking about? The top teams in the PBA are Alaska Aces, (with Willie Miller they will win it all), Genebra Kings, Trapang Texters (Talk N Text), Realtors (Santa Lucia), and the Energy Boosters (Barako Bull) ... maybe San Migual Beermen and TJ Giants (Pure Foods Hot Dogs), but I don't think BK is as good as everyone thinks ... too weak on defensive assignments and not a deep enough bench, and I don't see the Tigers, Painters or Smart Gilas going too far this year, either ... just not the same level of talent.
He was joking. They really have a team named the BK Whoppers, though?
God, i hate shameless marketing. Seeing a sweaty guy wearing your logo does not make me want to eat a BK burger.
Yeah ... BK Whoppers ... that's why I thought he was serious. You have to realize what a very poor country the Philippines is, and that in order to get funding for any kind of basketball/professional sports, they will accept sponsorship from wherever they can get it. Fast food is also VERY popular there, because most of the citizens are extremely poor, and anything American for an affordable price is a huge treat. It's not "shameless marketing" at all, but merely people who want to watch and play basketball, taking the support from anywhere they can get it. (I'm also not big on jokes aimed at the Philippines or it's people) :)
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The security did nothing, he landed like 5 punches after they grabbed him. What the hell?
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He should be banned for life.
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i dunno im a big fan of Smart Gilas. sure theyre not as talented as the professional players, seeing as theyre composed mainly of college players or 1 year removed from college.
when i was a kid i used to watch the PBA every single game. but now, not anymore. the game has transformed into selfish and showboating kind. i only watch college hoops here. the talent may not be good, but its really really fun to watch. (especially if your school gets to be back to back champions ;D)
alaska.. i respect their style, one of the few teams where teamwork can still be seen. (and im a big fan of my schoolmate LA tenorio)
about the team names, without such, theres no pba. without such backers its hard to maintain a league when most of your patrons cant even buy a general admissions ticket.
the names have actually become better. a few years ago Alaska Aces were Alaska Milkmen, Purefood TJ Giants were called Purefood tender juicy hotdogs, and Talk n Text tropang texters were the talk n text phone pals and so on.
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im gona quote a comment from a reader..
"There's a lot of things that happened before that incident.
1. The opponent of Burger King was Smart Gilas which is the new National Team composed of the best college players in the Philippines. The reason why the next National Team is composed of college players is because the PBA will stop sending its pros for future national teams. The new National Team is called Smart Gilas because Smart is a telecoms company that's the primary sponsor for the new National team.
2. The Head coach of Burger King (Yeng Guiao) was the recent head coach of the Philippine team composed of pros.
3. Burger King and Smart Gilas had a tug of war on Japeth Aguilar, a center who played for Western Kentucky University. Aguilar was forced by the coach of Burger King/previous National Team to join the PBA draft as a condition for him to play for the National Team composed of pros.
4. After the draft, Aguilar decided to not join the PBA because he wanted to still play for the new National Team. There's no PBA penalty if a drafted player decides not to play for the team. But the owners of Burger King threatened to ask for a lifetime ban.
5. Due to the recent flooding from a storm, a benefit exhibition game between the new National Team (composed of college players) and the previous National Team (composed of pros happened). The college players beat their professional counterparts by 29 points. Aguilar played for the new NT, even though he was a member of the previous team too.
6. The owner owner of Smart Gilas also owns a PBA team. So they engineered a trade that sent Aguilar from Burger King to his pro team. And then he released Aguilar to Smart Gilas.
7. Apparently, Yeng Guiao resented what happened and he sent his players to be extremely physical on the new NT selection. Imagine this, four flagrant fouls in the first quarter alone.
8. The fans, who were probably 99% cheering for Smart Gilas over Burger King were irked by the hard fouls made by the Burger King players and were very vocal in their displeasure. Arboleda resented the foul words and charged one of the fans."
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I think when people talk about the 'shameless marketting' it isn't directed at the teams or playes, but the companies. I mean, if Burger King went out and bought the Celtics, and changed their name to the BK Celtics, I would never in my life buy another burger king burger, because that seems shameless. But if they bought the Cs and then had a bunch of Celtics hamburger commercials and ads and stuff, that would be expected.
And it does happen over here in smaller leagues... the New York RedBull in the MLS for example. It's shameless on their part.
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Top teams in this league.
1.Burger King
2.Arby's
3.Jack in the Box
4.Domino's
I really think Arby's is going to win it all, has to be that bronco berry sauce, can't lose if ya got that.
I dunno, I've got my money on the underdogs -- Church's Chicken.
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Wow..Thrilla in Manila. Sad.
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Top teams in this league.
1.Burger King
2.Arby's
3.Jack in the Box
4.Domino's
I really think Arby's is going to win it all, has to be that bronco berry sauce, can't lose if ya got that.
Huh? What league are you talking about? The top teams in the PBA are Alaska Aces, (with Willie Miller they will win it all), Genebra Kings, Trapang Texters (Talk N Text), Realtors (Santa Lucia), and the Energy Boosters (Barako Bull) ... maybe San Migual Beermen and TJ Giants (Pure Foods Hot Dogs), but I don't think BK is as good as everyone thinks ... too weak on defensive assignments and not a deep enough bench, and I don't see the Tigers, Painters or Smart Gilas going too far this year, either ... just not the same level of talent.
TJ... that is just embarrassing. Could you imagine rooting for a team in the NBA called the Tender Juicy Hot Dogs?
I remember around 10 years ago when the PBA and PBL both seemed to get a lot of viewers. They even tried a regional league with the MBA, which was cool because they could actually have home teams. But the NBA became too readily accessible.
I wonder how much of an effect the Phil-Am scandals had on the league.
I am a bit shocked that BK has a team. I remember when they opened the first BK in the Philippines about 10 years ago. Are there a lot of them now in Phils?
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Burger King...Really?
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He should get banned for wearing a Burger King Jersey.
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And also for his lack of fighting skills.
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Top teams in this league.
1.Burger King
2.Arby's
3.Jack in the Box
4.Domino's
I really think Arby's is going to win it all, has to be that bronco berry sauce, can't lose if ya got that.
Huh? What league are you talking about? The top teams in the PBA are Alaska Aces, (with Willie Miller they will win it all), Genebra Kings, Trapang Texters (Talk N Text), Realtors (Santa Lucia), and the Energy Boosters (Barako Bull) ... maybe San Migual Beermen and TJ Giants (Pure Foods Hot Dogs), but I don't think BK is as good as everyone thinks ... too weak on defensive assignments and not a deep enough bench, and I don't see the Tigers, Painters or Smart Gilas going too far this year, either ... just not the same level of talent.
TJ... that is just embarrassing. Could you imagine rooting for a team in the NBA called the Tender Juicy Hot Dogs?
I remember around 10 years ago when the PBA and PBL both seemed to get a lot of viewers. They even tried a regional league with the MBA, which was cool because they could actually have home teams. But the NBA became too readily accessible.
I wonder how much of an effect the Phil-Am scandals had on the league.
I am a bit shocked that BK has a team. I remember when they opened the first BK in the Philippines about 10 years ago. Are there a lot of them now in Phils?
yeah i think so. me and my friends used to hang out and play cards during my freshman year at BK coz of the refillable drinks
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Wow..Thrilla in Manila. Sad.
The venue is actually where Thrilla in Manila was held.
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Wow..Thrilla in Manila. Sad.
The venue is actually where Thrilla in Manila was held.
well, at least Manny Pacquiao is still legit, just not on the bball court :P
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Am I wrong for craving a bucket of chicken and whopper after watching that?
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The D-League is much more interesting anyway:
The White Castle Clam Strips
Denny’s Early Birds
House of Pancakes Bowl Rockers
The Oreo Double Stuffers
Wal-mart Blue Light Specials
And of course… The Subway Foot-Longs (these guys really play ‘small ball’)!
:o
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The PBA is a legitimate league, and very exciting, actually. Being a very poor country, they are somewhat forced into taking sponsorship where they can get it. There are very few foreign countries that take basketball as seriously as the Philippines, and while it's all in good fun to razz their sponsorship names, I loved going to games when I was there, and the level of play is much higher than most here assume. ;)
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Top teams in this league.
1.Burger King
2.Arby's
3.Jack in the Box
4.Domino's
I really think Arby's is going to win it all, has to be that bronco berry sauce, can't lose if ya got that.
Huh? What league are you talking about? The top teams in the PBA are Alaska Aces, (with Willie Miller they will win it all), Genebra Kings, Trapang Texters (Talk N Text), Realtors (Santa Lucia), and the Energy Boosters (Barako Bull) ... maybe San Migual Beermen and TJ Giants (Pure Foods Hot Dogs), but I don't think BK is as good as everyone thinks ... too weak on defensive assignments and not a deep enough bench, and I don't see the Tigers, Painters or Smart Gilas going too far this year, either ... just not the same level of talent.
TJ... that is just embarrassing. Could you imagine rooting for a team in the NBA called the Tender Juicy Hot Dogs?
I remember around 10 years ago when the PBA and PBL both seemed to get a lot of viewers. They even tried a regional league with the MBA, which was cool because they could actually have home teams. But the NBA became too readily accessible.
I wonder how much of an effect the Phil-Am scandals had on the league.
I am a bit shocked that BK has a team. I remember when they opened the first BK in the Philippines about 10 years ago. Are there a lot of them now in Phils?
yeah i think so. me and my friends used to hang out and play cards during my freshman year at BK coz of the refillable drinks
I kinda miss the malls in the Philippines. Plenty of good malls around Manila.
One thing I do not miss from the Philippines -- playing basketball against dudes in flip-flops. And playing basketball at 7am to beat the heat.
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Top teams in this league.
1.Burger King
2.Arby's
3.Jack in the Box
4.Domino's
I really think Arby's is going to win it all, has to be that bronco berry sauce, can't lose if ya got that.
Huh? What league are you talking about? The top teams in the PBA are Alaska Aces, (with Willie Miller they will win it all), Genebra Kings, Trapang Texters (Talk N Text), Realtors (Santa Lucia), and the Energy Boosters (Barako Bull) ... maybe San Migual Beermen and TJ Giants (Pure Foods Hot Dogs), but I don't think BK is as good as everyone thinks ... too weak on defensive assignments and not a deep enough bench, and I don't see the Tigers, Painters or Smart Gilas going too far this year, either ... just not the same level of talent.
TJ... that is just embarrassing. Could you imagine rooting for a team in the NBA called the Tender Juicy Hot Dogs?
I remember around 10 years ago when the PBA and PBL both seemed to get a lot of viewers. They even tried a regional league with the MBA, which was cool because they could actually have home teams. But the NBA became too readily accessible.
I wonder how much of an effect the Phil-Am scandals had on the league.
I am a bit shocked that BK has a team. I remember when they opened the first BK in the Philippines about 10 years ago. Are there a lot of them now in Phils?
yeah i think so. me and my friends used to hang out and play cards during my freshman year at BK coz of the refillable drinks
I kinda miss the malls in the Philippines. Plenty of good malls around Manila.
One thing I do not miss from the Philippines -- playing basketball against dudes in flip-flops. And playing basketball at 7am to beat the heat.
some even play barefooted
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Banishment is a good call, but is this really banishment? Sounds like a suspension since it's just for the season. Anyhow, banning a player from a league would be a good message to send. David Stern should do the same for ignorant people like Gilbert Arenas. Arenas is just stupid.
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don't know about this situation, but once in a while a fan gets what he deserves, like when was at a U.N.H. football game a hundred years ago and the obnoxious fellow fan near me in the endzone stands was yelling all kinds of stupid, obscene stuff at one particular player from the other team, and he wouldn't let up, ruining the game for me and all the other grandmothers there in the endzone, and finally, at a break in the action, that player jogged all the way across his own ten and through the endzone right up this front row loser, invited the fan to say something to his face, then punched him across the face and then jogged back and continued the game. I know I know, but I kinda felt that fan got what he deserved a little. He wasn't attacked, he was just....punched....