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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: Roy Hobbs on February 08, 2009, 06:04:29 PM
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This thread is meant as a quick reference to see where the Celtics are in terms of the other top contenders in the race for home court advantage. I'll try to keep in updated every day of the season, but please, supplement and discuss this as appropriate.
February 8, 2009 (as of completion of all games):
NBA - best record:
1. L.A. Lakers, 41-9, .820
2. Cleveland Cavaliers, 39-10, .796
3. Boston Celtics, 42-11, .792
4. Orlando Magic, 38-12, .760
5. San Antonio Spurs, 34-15, .694
Eastern Conference - best record:
1. Cleveland Cavaliers, 39-10, .796
2. Boston Celtics, 42-11, .792
3. Orlando Magic, 38-12, .760
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Pretty impressive, the Lakers taking road games from the Celts and Cavs in back to back games. Right now, they're the best team in the NBA.
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Yea they have been playing very well, kind of going hand in hand with the play of Odom.
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Pretty impressive, the Lakers taking road games from the Celts and Cavs in back to back games. Right now, they're the best team in the NBA.
Yeah, kind of surprised by them. Earlier in the season I thought the Celtics and Cavaliers were in a league of their own. I thought everybody else in the NBA, including the Lakers, were all a level behind the two.
Btw, TP for the effort.
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Pretty impressive, the Lakers taking road games from the Celts and Cavs in back to back games. Right now, they're the best team in the NBA.
Still would have liked to see the outcome if KG was in at the end of the game but beating the Cavs is pretty impressive since nobody has won there this season.
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yup...hate to say it but LA looks very good. more impressed today with kobe ill....their bench and defense has come a long way....they clamped down on the cavs in the second half....i think boston needs at least home court in the east....i will take my chances with a 2-3-2 series with LA having home court...i think the 2 best teams in the end are boston and LA....i am writing off the magic....i think boston needs to really finish strong this next week...at NO with a gimpy paul and at dallas without terry...win and get to the break
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Impressive road trip by the Lakers. The good things I take away from this game is that Odom is still the Lakers' Rondo and his inconsistency is probably going to be a problem for them. The Cavs also seem to struggle in games when the questionable calls are swinging the other way. Hopefully that'll slow them down in the long run. I just hope the Celtics stay focused on finishing this month strong to not fall behind and especially stay ahead of Cleveland.
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Pretty impressive, the Lakers taking road games from the Celts and Cavs in back to back games. Right now, they're the best team in the NBA.
Still would have liked to see the outcome if KG was in at the end of the game but beating the Cavs is pretty impressive since nobody has won there this season.
Lakers fans certainly would have liked to see the outcome if Bynum was at the game...
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the lakers winning today actually helped boston...the C's need home court v the cavs
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Pretty impressive, the Lakers taking road games from the Celts and Cavs in back to back games. Right now, they're the best team in the NBA.
Still would have liked to see the outcome if KG was in at the end of the game but beating the Cavs is pretty impressive since nobody has won there this season.
Lakers fans certainly would have liked to see the outcome if Bynum was at the game...
Bynum was not kicked out of the game on a bogus call. He was injured before this game.
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Pretty impressive, the Lakers taking road games from the Celts and Cavs in back to back games. Right now, they're the best team in the NBA.
Still would have liked to see the outcome if KG was in at the end of the game but beating the Cavs is pretty impressive since nobody has won there this season.
Lakers fans certainly would have liked to see the outcome if Bynum was at the game...
Bynum was not kicked out of the game on a bogus call. He was injured by Kobe game before that.
Yeps, but they still would like to see him on the floor, don't you agree?
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Pretty impressive, the Lakers taking road games from the Celts and Cavs in back to back games. Right now, they're the best team in the NBA.
Still would have liked to see the outcome if KG was in at the end of the game but beating the Cavs is pretty impressive since nobody has won there this season.
Lakers fans certainly would have liked to see the outcome if Bynum was at the game...
Bynum was not kicked out of the game on a bogus call. He was injured by Kobe game before that.
Yeps, but they still would like to see him on the floor, don't you agree?
Yes. Most teams want all their players to be healthy. Unfortunately for them Bynum has difficulty doing that.
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every team peaks up and down...the lakers are in a peak right now...a long way to go though....
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It pains me to say it but the Lakers look like the best team right now. Impressive week. Odom if he played up to his potential would have been a multiple all-star.
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It pains me to say it but the Lakers look like the best team right now. Impressive week. Odom if he played up to his potential would have been a multiple all-star.
If Odom had ever played to his potential he'd be a hall of famer.
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If Odom was in the starting lineup he'd be an allstar playing like this
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Pretty impressive, the Lakers taking road games from the Celts and Cavs in back to back games. Right now, they're the best team in the NBA.
Or the most focused anyway....
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every team peaks up and down...the lakers are in a peak right now...a long way to go though....
Ding ding ding we have a winner!
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February 10, 2009 (as of 9:30pm):
NBA - best record:
1. L.A. Lakers, 41-9, .820
2. Boston Celtics, 42-11, .792
3. Cleveland Cavaliers, 39-11, .780
4. Orlando Magic, 38-12, .760
5. San Antonio Spurs, 34-15, .694
Eastern Conference - best record:
1. Boston Celtics, 42-11, .792
2. Cleveland Cavaliers, 39-11, .780
3. Orlando Magic, 38-12, .760
Back into second, and first in the East. Nice.
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February 10, 2009 (as of 9:30pm):
NBA - best record:
1. L.A. Lakers, 41-9, .820
2. Boston Celtics, 42-11, .792
3. Cleveland Cavaliers, 39-11, .780
4. Orlando Magic, 38-12, .760
5. San Antonio Spurs, 34-15, .694
Eastern Conference - best record:
1. Boston Celtics, 42-11, .792
2. Cleveland Cavaliers, 39-11, .780
3. Orlando Magic, 38-12, .760
Back into second, and first in the East. Nice.
Something I've noticed too - if we split the season series with Cleveland, the next tiebreaker is conference record, where we have a whopping 5.5 game lead (30-4 vs 23-8) over the Cavs. If we take just one more game from them, and maintain our good in-conference record, we have a great chance at HC.
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Greetings-new to the board...love the forums have been lurking for a few months.
OK...can someone tell me when head to head wins and losses comes into play. With two losses to LA I assumed we had lost home court (if both teams made it that far)
thanks
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Greetings-new to the board...love the forums have been lurking for a few months.
OK...can someone tell me when head to head wins and losses comes into play. With two losses to LA I assumed we had lost home court (if both teams made it that far)
thanks
Welcome to the blog; glad to have you aboard!
If we meet LA, the team with the better overall record has home court. If, however, the two teams have the same record, then LA would have home court advantage.
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Greetings-new to the board...love the forums have been lurking for a few months.
OK...can someone tell me when head to head wins and losses comes into play. With two losses to LA I assumed we had lost home court (if both teams made it that far)
thanks
Only if the teams ended up with the same record. If the Celtics have the better record in the end the head to head record means nothing.
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thanks guys...
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February 19, 2009 (as of 9:42pm):
NBA - best record:
1. L.A. Lakers, 44-10, .815
2. Boston Celtics, 44-11, .800
3. Cleveland Cavaliers, 41-11, .788
4. Orlando Magic, 39-14, .736
5. Denver Nuggets, 37-17, .69485
Eastern Conference - best record:
1. Boston Celtics, 44-11, .800
2. Cleveland Cavaliers, 41-11, .788
3. Orlando Magic, 39-14, .736
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I can't wait to see how the Celtics evolve with the addition of Moore and Marbury. Hopefully that will spark their second unit. Because that's the unit that needs the most work. Also BBD and Powe are getting more minutes because of KG's absence. I hope they can step up and evolve both as players and with more confidence.
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I've been pretty delinquent in updating this.
As of February 25, 2009, before any games:
NBA - best record:
1. L.A. Lakers, 47-10, .825
2. Cleveland Cavaliers, 44-11, .800
3. Boston Celtics, 46-12, .793
4. Orlando Magic, 41-15, .732
5. San Antonio Spurs, 38-17, .691
Eastern Conference - best record:
1. Cleveland Cavaliers, 44-11, .800
2. Boston Celtics, 46-12, .793
3. Orlando Magic, 41-15, .732
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No matter how good we get, it doesn't make the Cavs worse.
I honestly think that because of that, it will still take an amount of luck to take the number one seed from Clevland.
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No matter how good we get, it doesn't make the Cavs worse.
I honestly think that because of that, it will still take an amount of luck to take the number one seed from Clevland.
True, although we're only one loss behind them (and have played three more games). It will be tough getting home court with KG out, but it's not impossible.
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April 12th could be HUGE (@ CLE)
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April 12th could be HUGE (@ CLE)
Yup, at this moment it would decide the #1 seed in the east.
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I just hope we take care of business through next Friday first.
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Hi guys, im a long time Lakers fan here. Not here to troll, just post my thoughts on Home court.
At the moment the lakers do have the best record in the league at 48-10. And I do believe are the best team in the league, due to their depth.
But the celtics aren't far off. The celts are 3 games behind us in the loss column but boston have played more games then us and it could quite easily come back to haunt us, especially considering our Laker schedule is mostly on the road to finish the season.
Personally, I'd much rather see Lebron and his cav's in the finals rather then the celtics. Purely on a match up standpoint, its easier for us to bury the cavs on the inside, they aren't as physical as people give them credit for. We match up much better, especially with LO playing the way he is.
The celtics on the other hand, are our enemies and always come to play, especially if they are playing on the road. Our games are always close and i am worried if we do see them, right now, they are the only team im worried about. Don't worry too much, the cavs can't keep winning expecting Bron to go for 50 each game to save them.
Heres a stat that will make you fans happy, that edges you guys further towards home court in the playoffs :)
Lebron 21pts 1board 0 assists in yesterdays loss!
Enjoy and goodluck for the rest of the season!
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Hi guys, im a long time Lakers fan here. Not here to troll, just post my thoughts on Home court.
At the moment the lakers do have the best record in the league at 48-10. And I do believe are the best team in the league, due to their depth.
But the celtics aren't far off. The celts are 3 games behind us in the loss column but boston have played more games then us and it could quite easily come back to haunt us, especially considering our Laker schedule is mostly on the road to finish the season.
Personally, I'd much rather see Lebron and his cav's in the finals rather then the celtics. Purely on a match up standpoint, its easier for us to bury the cavs on the inside, they aren't as physical as people give them credit for. We match up much better, especially with LO playing the way he is.
The celtics on the other hand, are our enemies and always come to play, especially if they are playing on the road. Our games are always close and i am worried if we do see them, right now, they are the only team im worried about. Don't worry too much, the cavs can't keep winning expecting Bron to go for 50 each game to save them.
Heres a stat that will make you fans happy, that edges you guys further towards home court in the playoffs :)
Lebron 21pts 1board 0 assists in yesterdays loss!
Enjoy and goodluck for the rest of the season!
Make that two losses behind you ;)
It's always nice to have fans come here and
discuss things instead of trolling.
Good luck to you as well, we hope to see you
(and beat you of course!) in the Finals once again.
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Said this earlier, but we're VERY close to clinching tiebreak over Cleveland for HCA whether we win the next game with them or not. We are guaranteed at least a tie in the season series, and the 2nd tiebreak is conference record, where we are up by a full 4 games (33-5 vs 29-9). Huge win tonight for a lot of reasons.
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Said this earlier, but we're VERY close to clinching tiebreak over Cleveland for HCA whether we win the next game with them or not. We are guaranteed at least a tie in the season series, and the 2nd tiebreak is conference record, where we are up by a full 4 games (33-5 vs 29-9). Huge win tonight for a lot of reasons.
Any likely scenario where we gain a game on the Cavs and end up tied will have us with home court in the ECF. The key is keeping pace with them.
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on a slightly different topic, Cavs are hammering the Heat right now. I hope Heat get back into and cause back-to-back Ls for the Cavs...
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on a slightly different topic, Cavs are hammering the Heat right now. I hope Heat get back into and cause back-to-back Ls for the Cavs...
Sadly I doubt it will happen. The Heat aren't good enough to come back from such a hole in Cleveland.
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on a slightly different topic, Cavs are hammering the Heat right now. I hope Heat get back into and cause back-to-back Ls for the Cavs...
Sadly I doubt it will happen. The Heat aren't good enough to come back from such a hole in Cleveland.
Especially with Mo Williams hitting 6 of 7 from 3 point land. Wow.
That said, I love that we humbled that cocky little fella last night :D
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Magic and Lakers both lost last night.
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on a slightly different topic, Cavs are hammering the Heat right now. I hope Heat get back into and cause back-to-back Ls for the Cavs...
Sadly I doubt it will happen. The Heat aren't good enough to come back from such a hole in Cleveland.
Especially with Mo Williams hitting 6 of 7 from 3 point land. Wow.
That said, I love that we humbled that cocky little fella last night :D
Can't stand Mo Williams.
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Well, the Cavs play the Clippers. I expect some 20 point beatdown. ::)
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Well, the Cavs play the Clippers. I expect some 20 point beatdown. ::)
Probably, but it is on the road. The C's know that sometimes on the road you lose silly games.
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Lakers lose. All is well.
Yes, I know Cleveland won and that we lost. Leave me alone!
:'(
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With 14 games left and a banded up roster, I guess the Celtics can kiss home court advantage thru the East goodbye. We are behind the Cavs by 5 games. What are the odds of we go 14-0 and the Cavs 9-5 the rest of the way? I won't bet my house on it (even if I have one). I will settle if we hold onto no worse than the 3rd seed.
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With 14 games left and a banded up roster, I guess the Celtics can kiss home court advantage thru the East goodbye. We are behind the Cavs by 5 games. What are the odds of we go 14-0 and the Cavs 9-5 the rest of the way? I won't bet my house on it (even if I have one). I will settle if we hold onto no worse than the 3rd seed.
We are ten and a half games up on Atlanta for the four seed. That is more than twice the distance between us and Cleveland, we are a lock for a top three seed. Its getting the number two seed that is in question.
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This may be a blessing. Think about it. Atl obviously matches up well with us. I would rather play Orlando in the 2nd round than Atl. I know that sounds crazy, but I think that matchup would be better for us. Let Atl run all over the Lebrons and wear them out...
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We definitely have an easy enough schedule were we can win out with only two really hard games (@Orl, @ Cle) and 1 other tough one (@Atl)
But even if we win out, I can't see Cleveland Losing 5 even tough they do have a tough schedule than us.
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I just want to stay ahead of ORL. I don't want to concede 3 rounds of home court advantage to our opponents. We'd burn out.
Other than that as long as the officials don't gift wrap all 4 home games for Lebron, I like our chances.
I'm pumped up for the post season!! Look out Dwight. Look out Lebron. Look out Kobe n' Sasha. Here comes the green machine!!!
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stay ahead of the magic. that is the mission
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It shouldn't be to the players.
If the players are conceded second then I have to ::) at them.
First goal should be to stay healthy. Then they should be shooting to catch the Cavs even if they don't make it, that should be the goal.
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I agree on both points. First stay healthy. Second try to get home court. As soon as the playoffs are set, the goal changes to winning #18...irregardless of our seed.
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It shouldn't be to the players.
If the players are conceded second then I have to ::) at them.
First goal should be to stay healthy. Then they should be shooting to catch the Cavs even if they don't make it, that should be the goal.
Well, the C's should try to win every game of course. Lebron could go down with an injury and the Cavs could stumble to a 6-6 record.
At the same time you have to be realistic. The Cavs are probably not going to loose enough games for the C's to make up 5 games.
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Even though I would prefer to have HCA, It is almost unrealistic to think that Cleveland will lose enough games in this short run for us to catch #1 seed. Orlando is pretty close but looking at potential 1st round match ups I am not sure if I would prefer to be #2 and play against Detroit or #3 and play Philly. I am confident that we will win any of those series but facing the Pistons in the 1st round could be a though series and burn us out for the long run. Maybe being #3 seed won't be that terrible because with everybody aboard after all those injuries I don't fear anybody and We can win in Orlando without HCA. Any preferences for 1st round?
Go Celts!!
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I say, "Bring on whomever wherever and we'll get it done." ;)
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Celtics really should win in Cleveland in the regular season.
It will take off some of the pressure of not beating Cleveland in Cleveland from this season and last years playoffs.
As for HCS, it will take a collapse of both Clev and LA to get there at this point. (not that I would be sad if they both did collapse)
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Celtics really should win in Cleveland in the regular season.
It will take off some of the pressure of not beating Cleveland in Cleveland from this season and last years playoffs.
As for HCS, it will take a collapse of both Clev and LA to get there at this point. (not that I would be sad if they both did collapse)
Totally agree.
I would love to see us finish off with wins in Orlando, Atlanta and Cleveland just to send that message. However, this will not get us to a #1 seed unless there is a monumental collapse by the Cavs.
I love how the rest of the league seems scared of LeCrab. It will make our unflinching defense even more puzzling to him should we meet him in the post-season as in, "Why are they not scared?"
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Celtics really should win in Cleveland in the regular season.
It will take off some of the pressure of not beating Cleveland in Cleveland from this season and last years playoffs.
As for HCS, it will take a collapse of both Clev and LA to get there at this point. (not that I would be sad if they both did collapse)
Not only to take that pressure off, but possibly to ensure that they Cavs don't finish the regular season at 40-1 at home, tying the '86 Celtics record. Even though the real test of the record would be for the Cavs to go undefeated in the playoffs as well like the '86 Celtics did, but the league separates regular season and playoff records, so the 2009 Cavs would forever be linked to the '86 Celtics, and that just seems wrong.
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Celtics really should win in Cleveland in the regular season.
It will take off some of the pressure of not beating Cleveland in Cleveland from this season and last years playoffs.
As for HCS, it will take a collapse of both Clev and LA to get there at this point. (not that I would be sad if they both did collapse)
Not only to take that pressure off, but possibly to ensure that they Cavs don't finish the regular season at 40-1 at home, tying the '86 Celtics record. Even though the real test of the record would be for the Cavs to go undefeated in the playoffs as well like the '86 Celtics did, but the league separates regular season and playoff records, so the 2009 Cavs would forever be linked to the '86 Celtics, and that just seems wrong.
I've been thinking about this too for the past few weeks... These Cavs aren't good enough to be linked to the 86 Celtics!! If they do go 40-1, they should thank the officials for gift wrapping all the 1 way contact calls for LeCrab.
Lets beat them in Cleveland in a couple weeks!
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Celtics really should win in Cleveland in the regular season.
It will take off some of the pressure of not beating Cleveland in Cleveland from this season and last years playoffs.
As for HCS, it will take a collapse of both Clev and LA to get there at this point. (not that I would be sad if they both did collapse)
Not only to take that pressure off, but possibly to ensure that they Cavs don't finish the regular season at 40-1 at home, tying the '86 Celtics record. Even though the real test of the record would be for the Cavs to go undefeated in the playoffs as well like the '86 Celtics did, but the league separates regular season and playoff records, so the 2009 Cavs would forever be linked to the '86 Celtics, and that just seems wrong.
I've been thinking about this too for the past few weeks... These Cavs aren't good enough to be linked to the 86 Celtics!! If they do go 40-1, they should thank the officials for gift wrapping all the 1 way contact calls for LeCrab.
Lets beat them in Cleveland in a couple weeks!
I agree,here's a tp to put you at 100...congrats!
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I would love to see the Celtics win in Cleveland during the last regular season game between these two teams.
Still, I have the feeling that it would be better for the C's to lose this game because it would confort the Cavaliers in the idea that they are unbeatable at home. I mean, we know that the Celtics can win on the road. I'm sure that the team will win in Cleveland during the playoffs, and I think it will kill the Cavaliers' confidence and ultimately make them lose the series, since they will have to win in Boston.
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Celtics really should win in Cleveland in the regular season.
It will take off some of the pressure of not beating Cleveland in Cleveland from this season and last years playoffs.
As for HCS, it will take a collapse of both Clev and LA to get there at this point. (not that I would be sad if they both did collapse)
Not only to take that pressure off, but possibly to ensure that they Cavs don't finish the regular season at 40-1 at home, tying the '86 Celtics record. Even though the real test of the record would be for the Cavs to go undefeated in the playoffs as well like the '86 Celtics did, but the league separates regular season and playoff records, so the 2009 Cavs would forever be linked to the '86 Celtics, and that just seems wrong.
I've been thinking about this too for the past few weeks... These Cavs aren't good enough to be linked to the 86 Celtics!! If they do go 40-1, they should thank the officials for gift wrapping all the 1 way contact calls for LeCrab.
Lets beat them in Cleveland in a couple weeks!
I agree,here's a tp to put you at 100...congrats!
Right back at ya. thanks for helping me get to that plateau.